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Mac OS X Server 10.2.4 Update Available

Hungus writes "The Mac OS X Server 10.2.4 Update delivers enhanced functionality and improved reliability for the following applications, services and technologies: AFP, SMB and NFS file services, DHCP, NetBoot, Open Directory, QuickTime Streaming Server, Sendmail and Workgroup Manager. It prevents Xserve drives from being unmounted while locked, provides digest authentication for WebDAV, management of Energy Saver settings, and supports NetBoot images greater than 2 GB in size. The update also provides the latest Security Updates. It's available via Software Update or for separate download."

40 comments

  1. OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I downloaded it. Now what do I do with it?

    1. Re:OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      Install it, bitch.

      I knew mac users were dumb, but this is ridiculous

    2. Re:OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WHAT??? This is useless to me then. I should have known something was up when I did an apt-get install and it just spit out an error message.

  2. FreeBSD^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HApple is dying by Tuxinatorium · · Score: -1, Troll

    It is official; some noname journalist confirms: *Apple is dying One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *Apple community when IDC confirmed that *Apple market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of any computer. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *Apple has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *Apple is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test. You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *Apple's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *Apple faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *Apple because *Apple is dying. Things are looking very bad for *Apple. As many of us are already aware, *Apple continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood (and when hasnt it?) Apple is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time Apple developers Some_Engineer#1 and Some_Engineer#2 only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: Apple is dying. Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers. Apple leader Theo^H^H^H^HJobs states that there are 7000 users of Apple. How many users of Apple are there? Let's see. The number of Apple versus Wannabee posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 Apple users. Apple posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of Apple posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of Apple. A recent article put Apple at about 80 percent of the *Apple market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 Apple users. This is consistent with the number of Apple Usenet posts. Due to the troubles of nobody, abysmal sales and so on, Apple is going out of business and is being taken over by YetAnotherClone who sell another troubled OS. Now Apple is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house. All major surveys show that *Apple has steadily declined in market share. *Apple is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *Apple is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *Apple continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *Apple is dead. Fact: *BSD^H^H^HApple is dying (baltantly ripped of the trolls ;-)

  3. Solid upgrade by CptTripps · · Score: 5, Funny

    This improved a lot of the issues I was having with WebDAV. Nice to see Apple making the changes that we were looking for in an upgrade. DHCP server is MUCH more reliable now! But still no tabbed....wait...wrong app.

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    1. Re:Solid upgrade by dewhite · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I have a question for someone using OSXS - is apple as reboot-happy with thier 'server' updates as they are for the OS X client? Sometimes (as in the case of major updates) a reboot is necessary and proper. But, when I was using OS X 10.0.X (I'm currently experimenting with Gentoo PPC Linux) I was annoyed that each week brought a new reboot-nonoptional update. I don't mind apple keeping us up-to-date and secure, I think it's great. I'm pretty certain, however, that some of those reboots are of the 'good habit' variety, rather than being absolutly necessary. I didn't mean to rant, I really did mean to ask -- how prevalent are the reboots with OSXS?

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    2. Re:Solid upgrade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      generally, you'll need to reboot for any update that touches the kernel or a key process (like sendmail, even if you aren't running it). It kinda sucks, but presumably Apple will eventually figure out the magic of stopping and restarting services...

    3. Re:Solid upgrade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's a leaked safari beta that has tabs; I've seen a screenshot of it running on my friend's machine.. I'd put a copy up for people to see somewhere, but I'm so paranoid at slashdot that i've got a mod_rewrite rule pointing anything with a http_referer of anywhere on slashdot to goatse.cx. (I don't pay for my bandwidth, and the only reason I don't is because I keep things low traffic.)

    4. Re:Solid upgrade by pldms · · Score: 2, Insightful
      One possible explanation for this 'reboot happy' behaviour is a situation I found with debian. I'd keep upgrading, then one day I rebooted (after a power outage) and found weird problems all over the place which took ages to track down (library problem IIRC). I had no idea which upgrade has caused the issue, information which would have saved some time.

      Seems like a pretty blunt way solve that potential problem, of course...

      (btw, this isn't a criticism of debian - I suspect I was using 'unstable'. There's an implicit warning in the name :-)

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    5. Re:Solid upgrade by markzdk2002 · · Score: 1

      Pudge you are just now writing about this update that has been out for some time! Lame...you are behind the times. (just my opion) we all have one right.

    6. Re:Solid upgrade by ahknight · · Score: 1

      dude, the SERVER update just came out... get with it...

    7. Re:Solid upgrade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > this update that has been out for some time!

      This 10.2.4 Server upgrade came out around 10pm eastern last night - 14-15 hours doesn't seem like that is "some time."

    8. Re:Solid upgrade by drsmithy · · Score: 1

      This is actually a very good point (and often understated). It really is a good idea to reboot your servers on a regular basis to make sure that they actually *do* restart cleanly and you haven't made a typo somewhere in a config file or init script that stalls the entire boot process halfway through.

    9. Re:Solid upgrade by markzdk2002 · · Score: 1

      well then I don't know how I downloaded it last friday. Maybe I should provide more details. When get behind my g4 later this evening I will post my update log, or find the article which originally pointed me to it. either way.

    10. Re:Solid upgrade by markzdk2002 · · Score: 1

      If you go to apple's web site this update was posted on 2/13/2003 that is almost a week before it was posted by pudge. enough said. do your research before you attack me..please.

    11. Re:Solid upgrade by markzdk2002 · · Score: 0, Redundant

      If you go to apple's web site this update was posted on 2/13/2003 that is almost a week before it was posted by pudge. enough said. do your research before you attack me..please. Every other mac site I got to reported this the day it came out. Maybe pudge should review his stories before posting.

    12. Re:Solid upgrade by ahknight · · Score: 1

      Dude, READ what I'm WRITING. The SERVER update came out yesterday. Not the DESKTOP update, which has been out for two weeks. Look here:

      KB 70172

    13. Re:Solid upgrade by markzdk2002 · · Score: 0

      Yes I did follow your link....read the created part Date 2/21/2003....then modified on 2/25/2003. Feb 21 was last friday! thank you.

    14. Re:Solid upgrade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      uhh maybe I'm missing something but that's not the 2-13-03 you claimed, monkey. you're wrong and just making a fool of yourself. give it up.

  4. netboot by Stinson · · Score: 3, Interesting

    and supports NetBoot images greater than 2 GB in size it makes you kind of wonder tho, who has netboot images that ARE greater than 2 GB? Could this just be another useless 'feature' or upgrade that doesnt do too much? (kinda like maximum current connections on BSD, close to a million really serves no purpose). And anyways, wouldn't anyone who would have that 2g image have to be on like one of the new fiber college backbones that can actually handle that, or are people generally content waiting a few hours to boot...

    1. Re:netboot by addaon · · Score: 4, Informative

      Gigabit, standard on most macs: 16 seconds. Even with overhead, 60 seconds max. Still, I agree that it's kinda useless today, and hopefully for a good long time.

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    2. Re:netboot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      universities and other institutions with multimedia classes can easily have netboot images over 2GB.

    3. Re:netboot by imac.usr · · Score: 4, Interesting
      For our standard desktop image at work, with things like Office, FileMaker, and so on, the most recent version topped out at well over 2 GB. Note that we won't be netbooting it regularly, but it would be nice to be able to do so on occasion for troubleshooting purposes, and to use NetInstall to just install the whole thing at once.

      Personally, I'm more excited by this part of the update details:

      Support for IP over FireWire. This enhancement enables Mac OS X Server to utilize high speed, low latency interconnects for clustering and IP failover solutions over FireWire. You no longer need to use ports on your gigabit Ethernet switch in order to use IP failover.

      This could be a great solution for building a cluster of server machines while still allowing each one independent access to the network.

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  5. a little late no? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    ummm this cam out on like the 13th.. way to go to be current! >:o

    1. Re:a little late no? by Dahan · · Score: 2, Informative
      ummm this cam out on like the 13th

      This is for MacOS X Server. Not the regular OS X.

  6. what's that smell? by djupedal · · Score: 3, Funny

    Server Update. If you're not running OS X Server, this puppy will sit on your drive like the corpse of a dead muskrat under the front porch, rotting in the hot summer sun.

    1. Re:what's that smell? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well in that case, head over to irc.newnet.net, and join #macfilez or #macstuff and download OSX server today! :-)

    2. Re:what's that smell? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bastard

  7. no by djupedal · · Score: 1

    Server Update ~ It's new, trust us.

  8. meanwhile.... by larry+bagina · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Setting: a cheap hotel, it's CmdrTaco's wedding night:

    Kathleen: Is it in yet?
    Malda: Yeah, all the way!
    Kathleen: Oooh, it feels so big!

    Troll Tuesday is here!

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  9. Apple faces hard times, revenue shortfalls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Apple is on very shakey ground financially. Frankly, many prominent industry analysts have crunched the numbers, concluding that Apple's outlook is bleak indeed.

    In Apple's latest numbers released in January for its fiscal first quarter of 2003, revenue fell from a year earlier and all of the company's major computer lines saw diminished numbers. PowerMac sales were down 20%, while iBook sales fell 8%.

    At the same time Apple's sales were falling, PC sales rose, though just slightly, according to figures from IDC released last month.

    The last time Apple was in this state, it brought back co-founder Steve Jobs to fix its issues. He fostered the development of the iMac and secured a US$150-million investment from Microsoft. But there aren't any new iMacs in Apple's future and Microsoft, bolstered by its victory over the U.S. Department of Justice, is clearly not going to help the beleaguered computer maker this time.

    So what have you got left? Apple is a company that controls around 3% of the computer market, has recently undergone a restructuring and is slowly fading into nothingness. Software makers don't even have Mac users on their radar and it's not like Apple can bring Mr. Jobs back to right the ship this time -- he's already there.

    Stick a fork in 'em -- this Apple is cooked.

  10. Dear Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    Dear Apple,

    I am a homosexual. I bought an Apple computer because of its well earned reputation for being "the" gay computer. Since I have become an Apple owner, I have been exposed to a whole new world of gay friends. It is really a pleasure to meet and compute with other homos such as myself. I plan on using my new Apple computer as a way to entice and recruit young schoolboys into the homosexual lifestyle; it would be so helpful if you could produce more software which would appeal to young boys. Thanks in advance.

    with much gayness,

    Father Randy "Pudge" O'Day, S.J.

  11. Dear Father O'Day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    Dear Father O'Day:

    Thanks for your letter. Being Catholic myself, I know exactly what you're talking about! It has always been our plan here at Apple Computer Inc to revolutionize personal computing with our high-quality and highly gay products.

    I'm happy to answer your letter by letting you know that YES we will be releasing an entire hLife ("homo-life") software line. You'll be able to recognize it in stores by the small stylized logo depicting a large cock entering a tight anus with an Apple logo on it. ("Suddenly it all comes together" indeed!).

    Anyway, I hope you and other members of our community will join us on our mission, and purchase the exciting new hLife boxed set. Only the boxed set comes with translucent cock rings!

    Sincerely,

    Harry Rodman
    Vice-president
    Homosexual Liaison Services
    Apple Computer, Inc.

  12. Uh oh. by skinfitz · · Score: 1

    I just installed it remotely via command line software update.

    It hasnt come back up.

    Crap. Looks like I'm going to work early.

    1. Re:Uh oh. by SlamMan · · Score: 1

      Exact same thing. Sort of. For me, it took an extra reboot to be able to ssh in for some reason.

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  13. mod_rendezvous_apple source code? by mithras+the+prophet · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm hoping that with the release of 10.2.4 Server, apple will post the source to their mod_rendezvous_apple Apache module on the Darwin Server page.
    Nothing there yet, but keep an eye on it... it'd be nice to be able to tweak that module as we see fit.
    (Especially since Eric Seidel's mod_rendezvous code is still not on Sourceforge)

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  14. Great, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    What about the fucked up 10.2.4 workstation upgrade they put out a couple weeks ago... shouldn't they be fixing that first?

    If the server upgrade goes anything like the workstation upgrade, I want no part of it.

    1. Re:Great, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do legitimate questions always get modded down?

      Slashdot moderators = fucking retarded.

  15. netboot 2GB? easy. how about 4GB? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A full Mac OS X, with localisations for all languages (Tagalog, Traditional Chinese, Hangul, ..), the full Developer Tools and a few minor things like Safari and X11, amounts to a netboot image of about 3GB.

    Now you can run most apps, then, from automounted "/Network/Applications" (or whatever) network file servers, but not all; particularly Adobe has some nasty installers, and bad software that refuses to use /Network/Library, as it should. So you install that "locally", i.e. on the netboot image, too. If you'd keep iDVD installed, add about 1.2GB (all that effects, styles, art included make up for that much). Luckily, iDVD runs fine from network servers

    So you'll end up easily with 4GB or more, just by installing only broken software that won't run from the network locally. It's not like everything is transferred; netbooting is simply a matter of tftp'ing a loader and the kernel, creating a little local swap and tmp, and nfs-mounting the system partition (the netboot image); not really all that much network traffic at all.

    The $1000 question, though, is: how about images over 4GB? Preliminary testing suggests the 2GB limit just became a 4GB limit. Signed to unsigned integers in the NFS code, probably. We need over 4GB, though.
    Steve! Get with it!

  16. I look forward to trying the latest WebDAV support by $$$$$exyGal · · Score: 0

    Content management has always been a hobby of mine. And Apple's have been a hobby of mine. You see where this is going ;-) ? I wonder how many people will actually use this ?

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