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50th Anniversary of DNA's Discovery

nxg125 writes "The New York Times has a section on the 50th anniversary of Watson & Crick's discovery of DNA. Lots of good articles about the discovery, Watson & Crick themselves, and where this information will take us from here."

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  1. Rather, by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Informative


    50 years since the discovery of its structure.

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  2. Discovery of DNA prevented by co-ed universities? by girl_geek_antinomy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I remember hearing a wonderful interview with Watson a few years ago - he was saying that if Cambridge had been more co-ed at the time (there were only three Womens' olleges, everywhere else was male) he'd have been too busy trying to get a girlfriend to spend all that time elucidating the structure of DNA.

  3. 50th anniversary rememberance.. by cosmic_whiner · · Score: 5, Informative

    How come it's always only Watson and Crick - why dont people remember Maurice Wilkins (who shared the nobel prize with them) and Rosalind Franklin (who's pathbreaking Xray work led to the double helix)

    1. Re:50th anniversary rememberance.. by tbmaddux · · Score: 4, Interesting
      ... why don't people remember ... Rosalind Franklin ...
      People remember "Watson and Crick" because those were the names on their paper. Wilkins declined to have his name included (d'oh!). And Franklin, she certainly does get remembered, but more for being "ripped off" (as many others have told me -- the full story is of course more complex) because she was just a post-doc, or a woman.
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    2. Re:50th anniversary rememberance.. by aluminum+boy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Wrong" grossly understates the complexity of Franklin's interaction with Watson/Crick. She was neither wrong nor right. She was doggedly neutral in assessing the structure of DNA. Franklin was wrapped up in the notion that the structure of DNA could only be discovered through X-Ray diffraction, and not through using the modelling approach that Watson and Crick ascribed to. Was was very, very, correct, however, when she discovered that DNA has two states: "zipped" and "unzipped". That served as a direct catalyst to Watson and Crick's break through. That would have gotten her the Nobel Prize, also, if she had survived long enough (it cannot be awarded posthumously).

  4. Re:Aren't we forgetting someone? by Speed+Racer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    She was the X-Ray crystallographer, not the co-discoverer. She dismissed the critical DNA type B X-Ray that she took as being unimportant. Unfortunately, nobody ever told her of the critical role her image played. Nevertheless, she was NOT a co-discoverer.

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  5. 50 years! by WPIDalamar · · Score: 4, Funny

    Man, that just blows my mind, only 50 years of DNA. So what did they use before DNA? My grandma is older than 50... I wonder what she's made out of!

    Maybe thats where that "Sugar and spice and everything nice" thing came from?

  6. Re:Aren't we forgetting someone? by Fluffy+the+Cat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Rosalind Franklin performed some important work that was ultimately built upon by Crick, Watson and Wilkins. Given more time she'd probably have reached the same conclusions, but the others got there first.

    In science, the people who make the final discovery get more credit than the people who did the work that made this discovery possible. Chauvinism has nothing to do with it.

    (On the other hand, Watson is one of the less pleasant people that I've had the poor fortune to meet)

  7. More about Rosalind Franklin by Aces+and+Eights · · Score: 5, Informative

    According to this review of her biography she was the woman who produced the x-ray data that most strongly supported the DNA structure but was not properly acknowledged for her contributions.

    That reveiw further goes on to say that... According to Watson's best-selling 1968 account of the great race, The Double Helix, Franklin was not even a contender, much less a major contributor. He painted her as a mere assistant to Wilkins who "had to go or be put in her place" because she had the audacity to think she might be able to work on DNA on her own. Worse yet, she "did not emphasize her feminine qualities," lamented Watson, who refers to her only as "Rosy." "The thought could not be avoided," he concluded, "that the best home for a feminist was in another person's lab."

    Sounds like Watson was *quite* the ladies man =)

  8. Now it's time to work out the folding... by MarvinMouse · · Score: 4, Informative

    Personally, I think everyone should join folding@home

    http://folding.stanford.edu

    now this is a distributed project that's producing results.

    DNA is useful, and was an excellent discovery, but it's kinda like discovering the motherboard, and not understanding how any of the information is transmitted. Folding at home allows anyone with spare computer cycles to help out and understand how the proteins fold to their lowest/near lowest energy state and how they interact in the body.

    Already some medical advances have been made, but there's still a long way to go.

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  9. Re:Aren't we forgetting someone? by richie2000 · · Score: 5, Informative
    From the NYTimes page:
    50 Years Later, Rosalind Franklin's X-Ray Fuels Debate
    By DENISE GRADY
    For some, over the years, Dr. Rosalind Franklin has come to symbolize the plight of women in science, as men close ranks against them.

    Fifty years ago, a casual gesture at a laboratory in London became a defining moment in the history of science. James D. Watson was visiting King's College late one afternoon near the end of January 1953, when a researcher named Maurice Wilkins showed him an X-ray photograph of a molecule of DNA.

    Describing the encounter years later in "The Double Helix," Dr. Watson wrote, "The instant I saw the picture my mouth fell open and my pulse began to race."

    The image was one of many by various researchers that hinted at a helix, but its singular clarity helped lead Dr. Watson and his colleague Francis Crick to the structure of DNA.

    The scientist who took the picture was Dr. Rosalind Franklin, and though they cited other work she had done, Dr. Watson and Dr. Crick did not acknowledge the photograph itself, or additional work by her they had used, in their paper.

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  10. Re:DNA Decode by CuOsc · · Score: 4, Informative

    Nature (where the Watson and Crick paper was published) is running something on this:
    http://www.nature.com/nature/dna50/

    The page has links to all the original 1953 articles.

  11. No Password by SkreamNet · · Score: 4, Informative
  12. Life Story by stroudie · · Score: 5, Informative

    A while back (~1987) the bbc produced a drama-documentary called "Life Story: a double helix", about the discovery of DNA (starring Tim Piggot-Smith & Jeff Goldblum).

    If you get the opportunity (it has been shown a number of times on US and UK TV), it is worth seeing as a very fair-minded and interesting history of the discovery. Unfortunately, I don't believe it is available on video, unless anyone knows different.

  13. and software makes the bioworld go round by johnjones · · Score: 4, Insightful

    nice that DNA was discovered while stareing at Xrays now software does a good job

    info: sanger center Cambridge was one of the centers that they helped sequence human DNA

    why ? Because of the ability to patent squences of DNA
    (that drug companies get rich off) they had to do it before evil companies did like Celera Genomics who used a more inactuate method (shotgun) but evily patented it

    welcome trust is a huge Charity that funds research in this area

    ptenting DNA is silly these are naturally occuring things (squences) they where not created just discovered its all very silly

    Cuba and alot of africa are starting not to recognise these patents as they would like to build the drugs that help AIDS and HIV

    its sad that AIDS and HIV has to come along just to show the world that patents are stupid on DNA

    anyway

    here is lots of software related to DNA

    regards

    John Jones

  14. I find it interesting... by keyslammer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ... that /. now has on the same page a report of the 50 year anniversary of the discovery of DNA and another report of
    the construction of a super-computer from DNA.

    50 years from discovery to super-computer technology. Can you say "accelerating returns"? Can ya? Sure you can!

  15. Re:Not really correct by RafeDawg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The original Watson/Crick paper specifically thanks Dr. R. E. Franklin. What more would you have them do?

    Co-authorship on the the paper. A standard practice for someone who gives you the crucial bit of data.

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  16. The original model by RDW · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you're in London you can see the original structural model of DNA (retort clamps and all), models of several other significant molecules, some early computers, and the Apollo 10 command module (!) all in one gallery at the Science Museum:

    http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/

    DNA structure