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Internet Traffic Still Growing Quickly

linuxscrub writes "I guess the previous articles about internet traffic doubling/[time period] being wrong were wrong? A new IDC report states that internet traffic will nearly double annually until 2007. They even use /.'s favorite unit of capacity/storage, the LOC. They predict that internet traffic will be 64,000 LOC/day! Wow, 64000 LOC, that sure sounds impressive!!"

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  1. and research shows by vosbert · · Score: 5, Funny

    it's all due to pr0n and gaming....

  2. Tell a non techie by Isbiten · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How much is 1 loc in gigabytes?

    And in the article they talk about petabits. Im confused :)

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    1. Re:Tell a non techie by Johan+Veenstra · · Score: 5, Informative

      You could ofcourse read the article (as you claim you did):

      "the entire printed collection of the Library of Congress amounts to only 10 terabytes of information"

    2. Re:Tell a non techie by JamesO · · Score: 3, Informative
      A petabit is 10e15 bits. That is,

      1 000 000 000 000 000 bits

      Or roughly a billion megabits (125 million megabytes)


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  3. Nicely written! by tunah · · Score: 5, Informative
    LOC==Library of Congress.

    If you're gonna use an obscure acronym three times, write it in full the first time.

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    1. Re:Nicely written! by chrisseaton · · Score: 3, Funny

      How about Bodleians for a change?

    2. Re:Nicely written! by tsa · · Score: 2, Funny

      No no no... this forces people to RTFA.

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  4. they use LOC... by lfourrier · · Score: 4, Funny

    but if the Library Of Congress continue initiatives to archive the net, even if all traffic is not new content, the unit is not constant.

  5. Wow, 64000 LOCs... by tunah · · Score: 4, Funny
    But what we REALLY need to know is how many helloworld.c's is that?

    Every tradition has to start somewhere, right?

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  6. I know why... by CommandNotFound · · Score: 5, Funny
    ... according to my apache access logs, over half of that traffic is going to be script kiddies trying to run

    GET /scripts/../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0

    over and over and over... guys, there is no command.com on my system. Give it a rest!
  7. http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jhtml?containerId=pr2003 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Wee more karma to the ACs!

    IDC Finds that Broadband Adoption Will Drive Internet Traffic Growth

    27 Feb 2003

    FRAMINGHAM, Mass., February 27, 2003 - IDC predicts that the volume of Internet traffic generated by end users worldwide will nearly double annually over the next five years, increasing from 180 petabits per day in 2002 to 5,175 petabits per day by the end of 2007. To put these figures into perspective, the entire printed collection of the Library of Congress amounts to only 10 terabytes of information. By 2007, IDC expects Internet users will access, download, and share the information equivalent of the entire Library of Congress more than 64,000 times over, every day.

    "Some industry observers have speculated that slowing growth in Internet traffic is at the root of the current telecom malaise, but IDC research shows that not only is Internet traffic growth strong, but it will continue at near triple digit rates over the next five years," said Sterling Perrin, senior research analyst, Optical Networks at IDC.

    This has some interesting implications for telecommunications equipment suppliers, particularly in the optical market. "As long as the total amount of voice and data traffic on the network continues to increase, then the need will arise for carriers to buy equipment, such as next-generation optical, that transports and manages it cheaper and more efficiently than the earlier generation of pure SONET-based products," said Perrin.

    The IDC study finds that, although growth in the number of Internet users will continue to be an important traffic driver, the migration of those Internet users to bigger access pipes will be even more significant. In particular, broadband adoption by consumers around the world will make this the fastest growing and largest segment in terms of Internet traffic volume generated. By 2007, IDC believes that consumers will account for 60% of all Internet traffic generated, versus roughly 40% for business users. Mobile Internet users are expected to have only a minimal impact on overall traffic volume during the forecast period.

    IDC's recently released study, Worldwide Bandwidth End-User Forecast and Analysis, 2003-2007: More is Still Not Enough (IDC #28875) provides a five-year forecast of global Internet traffic growth over the next five years, broken down by business, consumer, and mobile user segments. The study, which quantifies how much Internet traffic will be generated by end-users, draws on a wealth of IDC survey data including IDC's Internet Commerce Market Model, version 8.3, as well as IDC's forecasts for broadband and mobile access

    To purchase this document, call IDC's sales hotline at 508-988-7988 or email sales@idc.com.

  8. Elections and cable by Tyreth · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Soon people in my area have the council elections (compulsory here in Australia). I have to choose to give my preferential vote to 10 candidates of whom I know nothing about except 1/3 of an A4 sheet of paper description that they have written themselves.

    None of them are inspiring. I was thinking maybe I could run for election next time with just one promise, "I will work to lay the backbone for a fiber optics network to eventually reach into every house in our electorate!". Then we'll see the amount of data sent over the internet more than doubled each time :)

  9. HOW ON EARTH?? by spoonist · · Score: 3, Funny

    Okay. So let me get a couple of things straight. LOC = Library of Congress, right? And they're moving 64,000 of these around PER DAY?

    THAT'S ASTOUNDING!!! Have you ever been to their main building, the Thomas Jefferson Building? It's freakin' HUGE!

    Where'd they find 64,000 of these buildings and just how exactly are they moving them around??

    Maybe I should've posted this as a question to Ask Slashdot.

    1. Re:HOW ON EARTH?? by TopShelf · · Score: 4, Funny

      In the past, they'd have to break down the building into very very tiny pieces in order to fit over the phone lines, where it would travel "bit by bit" (that's a computer term) and be reassembled someplace else, like a travelling road show. But now, with the onset of Broadband Internet, the pieces that can be sent through the net are much bigger, so it takes less time to break the building down and reassemble it on the other side. The magical world of technology has made this and many other wondrous things possible! Support your local scientists!

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  10. I think I know what the new driver will be. by blair1q · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've been hitting the Internet Radio pretty heavily recently. 128 kbps streams whenever I can get them. Not many are free, still, but there's enough to keep me happy.

    Which makes me wondere if the Next Big Thing won't be Internet TV.

    Not crummy little windows, mad pixelation, and choppy frame rates, but real, HD-quality, big-window content-on-demand, bypassing the satellite and cable companies entirely.

    Good-bye "channels". Hello IPv6 URI's.

    1. Re:I think I know what the new driver will be. by the_real_tigga · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh yeah, sure! I will then watch Internet TV over my _cable_ connection!

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  11. $4,5000 to read the article! by Andy_R · · Score: 4, Funny

    The link is just to a press release for "Worldwide Bandwidth End-Use Forecast and Analysis, 2003-2007: More Is Still Not Enough"

    The document itself can be yours for the tiny sum of $4,500, surely an absolute bargain considering is contains an amazing FIFTEEN pages!

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  12. Internet Traffic... by Kr3m3Puff · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Of course the traffic may not be to chase after obscure documents, but simply more larger files, more peer-to-peer, more p0rn, etc...

    I wonder if the traffic can be correlated back to the actual number of "transactions" that are being done on the Internet? Like when I visit a website, a lot of the traffic (large banners, pop-up, etc) aren't really what I am doing or after.

    Is this simply a bandwith increase or are we talking about more real transactions? Probablly a bit of both...

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    1. Re:Internet Traffic... by Motherfucking+Shit · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I wonder if the traffic can be correlated back to the actual number of "transactions" that are being done on the Internet? Like when I visit a website, a lot of the traffic (large banners, pop-up, etc) aren't really what I am doing or after.

      Is this simply a bandwith increase or are we talking about more real transactions? Probablly a bit of both...
      I'm sure it's a bit of both, but from my own experience, I really think the majority of the "growth" is the ever-increasing size of websites.

      One example I like to use is uo.stratics.com. Check out how this site looked a few years ago, courtesy of the Wayback Machine. It was about a 60KB download even then, but it's grown extensively since. I just saved the current version of the site as a "Web archive, single file" (.mht) in Internet Explorer, and it comes out to 491KB. That's without the two Flash ads - I have IE set not to load that junk, and it didn't save in the .mht, either.

      So, over the course of 4 years or so, a page that was once about 60KB is now >500KB if you add in the Flash banners. Is it any wonder that internet traffic keeps doubling, when the sizes of common web destinations keep increasing so much?
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  13. Re:Before you ask WTF a LOC is.... by halftrack · · Score: 2, Redundant

    Shouldn't be doing this, but I can't resist. Before the partially /.'ed article loaded I did look it up at E2:

    Lines Of Code.
    A particularly clueless method of "measuring" the output of a programmer, motivated by the fact that "we're paying her to write lines of code!"

    This ignores such trivial objective matters as the difficulty or quality of the code, as well as the obvious subjective matters (I can write 5 good lines one day and 1000 the next).

    When a suit starts talking LOC (and kLOC), it's time to break out the code generators: M4, YACC, LEX, and most importantly custom-built programs that write programs. All of these enable the programmer to leverage effort to create LOC (to use a turn of phrase said suits might understand).


    And that's just plane wrong in this context;

    LOC == Libraries of Congress

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  14. New much more interesting unit of measurement by Johan+Veenstra · · Score: 5, Interesting

    5.175 petabits is about 1 bit per square centimeter of earth.

    Johan Veenstra

    1. Re:New much more interesting unit of measurement by RoloDMonkey · · Score: 2, Funny

      5.175 petabits is about 1 bit per square centimeter of earth.

      So, what do we call that, a terra-bit?

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  15. Lifetime of thoughts = 37Gb by RobotWisdom · · Score: 4, Interesting
    James Joyce's Ulysses is supposed to offer a full day's thoughts by Leopold Bloom. I did some calculations and concluded that the overall size of 1.5Mb is about right... so a full lifetime of thoughts is just 37 gigabytes.

    If the Library of Congress is 10 terabytes that's less than 300 lifetimes' worth. (Which 300 people should be included?)

    Another useful measure is the EB, or Encyclopaedia Britannica, which is about 200Mb. So one LoC = 50,000 EBs = 300 lifetimes.

    1. Re:Lifetime of thoughts = 37Gb by Twistor · · Score: 5, Interesting
      I agree that the Library of Congress ("LOC") is a extremely rough measure, and so this thread is a bit silly ... but let not that stop a correction or two on slashdot!

      From 1986 to 2000 I worked part-time/full-time in the stacks in the Adams Building. I worked in the General Collections which, when I left, had 240 miles of shelving assigned to it. (The General Collections was/is contained in the Adams and Jefferson Buildings as well as several off-Capitol Hill storage facilities.) In all three buildings there were about 530 miles of shelving for all of the collections (General + Special Collections.)

      Trust me - when I left we were shelving books on the floor on every deck in both buildings. The 240 mile estimate for the General Collections is low. I only viewed two of the Special Collections up close - some of the Music Division & Law Library, and they too had storage problems - they routinely took some of our shelves for their own overflow material. But, of course, not all shelves contain the same amount of data, so (again) the memory estimate of the "LOC" is going to be suspect - don't think I didn't try many times (in those long ago hours of boredom shelving those books!) to quantify an average. Its close to impossible.

      The Library did try an estimate - they even asked us to suggest "typical" shelves in the General Collections with which to measure - but the final estimate did not satisfy me and I fear the typical LOC unit measure is itself low.

      If you ever get stack-access go down to Deck 8 North and look through the Encyclopedias - I would estimate the length of one set of EB to be 10 feet. There are 2,798,400 feet in 530 miles, so there are 279,840 EB's per LOC (and again that LOC measure is suspect...), or 1679 lifetimes.

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  16. Pointless unit by brejc8 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yet another pointless unit to make people go woo. Along with the width of a hair.
    They might as well talk about the total mass of all electrons and photons (you never know) ammounting to the waight of 29 elehpants with the number growing to 30 elephants and two donkeys. Have these people hear of SI units?

  17. Oh NO!!! by warmcat · · Score: 4, Funny

    64,000 LOCs/day!?!?!

    What happens when it goes past 65,535 LOCs/day!!!

    Does IPv6 fix this?

    1. RE: Oh NO!!! by Rhinobird · · Score: 4, Funny

      the little yellow guy stops munching those packets and the whole thing just freezes up ghosts, fruit, everything. You can't even enter your high score.

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  18. source of traffic? by Unominous+Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wonder what percentage of that astounding amount of traffic was actually created (written, composed etc.) by the sender.

    These days, most people know that "multimedia" and "software demos" make up a large chunk of internet traffic. Most of this is copyrighted by someone else.

    If only there were a practical and legal way to store this information in a central depository. With widespread multicasting, the sheer amount of internet traffic would be greatly reduced.

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  19. How to Propel the Internet by 6e7a · · Score: 2

    Just like with the VCR, the porn industry gives consumers something they really want to consume. If the porn industry made HDTV 1080i on-demand video available for download, I'll bet HDTV and broadband would quickly become commonplace almost overnight!

  20. Great... by handsomepete · · Score: 2, Funny

    "You didn't take into account the amount of visualization (images) a person does during a day. That's thinking too."

    So now we have to figure out if we think in jpeg, gif or png?

    1. Re:Great... by anicklin · · Score: 3, Funny

      Actually it's mpeg4. Your folks had to pay the licensing fee as part of the hospital bill when you were born. Unless, of course, you are pirated, in which case you'd better close your eyes before some mean people start coming after you. :-)

    2. Re:Great... by zbuffered · · Score: 3, Funny

      I visualize in .asf -- I have many fuzzy memories that often leave out important data.

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  21. Look at peering statistics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Have a look at the traffic statistics of the public peering points in Europe:

    LINX - London - 25Gbit/s
    AMSIX - Amsterdam - 11Gbit/s
    DECIX - Frankfurt - 10Gbit/s

    If you look at it most of them double traffic even faster than in 12 month. I think it's closer to 9 month.

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  22. Bizarre math? Fuzzy math? by petrilli · · Score: 5, Interesting

    180 petabits per day? What kind of measurement is that? Where was it measured? How was it measured? Who was included? Were bits counted twice?

    Just to give you an idea, I work for a large IP carrier, and we peak around oh, 200Gbps aggregate traffic entering the network. Gigabits/second is a good measurement of traffic, as is total gigabytes/terabytes... but to use the term petabit, implies they're using bandwidth, not data, and that asks where that was measured and how? There's not a lot of 200Gbps networks in the world.

  23. before anticompetitive DSL ruling by MonkeyBoyo · · Score: 2, Informative

    This report was obviously written before the US anticompetitive DSL ruling. What effect will DSL gouging by the baby bells have on consumer adoption rates? I don't have the bucks to buy the report and see if they factor in pricing.

  24. Slight potential issue here... by Shoten · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Keep in mind that IDC sells the document that details this fact. They also sell other things that put it in their best interest for this report to say what it does. After all, do you think they'd be much use to anyone as an intelligence gathering organization if they only had to report "nope, not much going on here!" Remember, whenever someone talks about something that they are selling, consider that the statements should be verified before taken as fact :)

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  25. Early estimates didnt include spam by nurb432 · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is the single largest reason traffic is increasing out of sight, and was never on anyone's prediction list.

    Disclaimer: Spam includes mail, popups, popunders, etc.

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  26. Some Calculations by hburch · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Current data:
    180 petabits/day = 22.5 petabytes/day = 273 gigabytes/sec.

    Presuming 250 million people using the Internet, that's 1118 bytes/sec for each person, or 92 MB/day. Are you doing your part?

    2007 prediction:
    5,175 petabits/day = 650 petabytes/day = 7.66 terabytes/sec.

    Presuming 1 billion people using the Internet, that's 7,850 bytes/sec per person, or 647 MB/day. An average of one CD per day per person.

  27. P2P by gmuslera · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Even counting spam and mailing lists, increased average web page size, and streaming, I think the main component of this usage should be P2P networks, is the only thing that I could think that transfer so much traffic between a very large amount of people.

    If that is true, and all continues more or less the same, by 2007 consumers traffic will count for more than just 60%

  28. should be enough by farnsworth · · Score: 3, Funny
    64,000 LOC should be enough for everybody.

    *ducks

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  29. Meal stop! by KC7GR · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can I get a couple of bagels to go with those LOCs? Onion or blueberry, please...

    Thanks!

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  30. Petabit nonsense... by jpetts · · Score: 2, Funny

    Everybody knows this is nonsense: it's only two bits, 1 and 0, but moving very , very fast!

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  31. 64000LOC? by jrivar59 · · Score: 2, Funny

    How many natalie portmans is that?