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Dismal Failure of Internet Filters In Australia

An anonymous reader writes "The Sydney Morning Herald is reporting that the Australian Broadcasting Authority (ABA), the department responsible for implementing the insane Internet regulatory framework put in place by the current government, is about to drop a number of Internet Filtering packages due to their ineffectiveness. The full article is available here. There is also news that the Minister for Communications, Senator Richard Alston (whom The Register has labeled the Worlds Biggest Luddite :) ) is awaiting a review of the law with possible changes to follow. Be afraid Australia, be very afraid!"

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  1. Karma Whoring - EFA Press Release by thedji · · Score: 5, Informative

    Press release from the EFA (Australia's version of the EFF):

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    Media Release: 3 March 2003

    Censorship laws contribute to youth access to violent pornography

    Australian censorship laws contribute to the problem of youth access to
    pornographic material of the violent and extreme kind, Electronic Frontiers
    Australia (EFA) said today.

    The Australia Institute recently surveyed 200 youths 16-17 years old and
    found that "teenagers view X-rated videos more than Internet sex sites",
    although the sale of X-rated videos is illegal in all States.

    "Apparently, Australian laws prohibiting sale of X-rated videos have failed
    to prevent youth access to this type of video. It's even less likely that
    government attempts to prevent access to content on the world-wide Internet
    can be successful," said Irene Graham, EFA's Executive Director.
    "Australian laws already empower the Australian Broadcasting Authority to
    enforce deletion of any X-rated material found on Australian hosted
    Internet sites and The Australia Institute's report does not suggest that
    the laws have failed in this regard."

    The Australia Institute said a "distinction needs to be drawn between
    'mainstream' pornography (in commercially available X-rated videos) and the
    proliferation of violent and extreme material on the Internet".

    "Australian Internet censorship laws go far beyond the realms of community
    standards and practicality," said Graham. "Mainstream pornography
    containing sexually explicit X-rated material without the slightest
    indication of violence, coercion or demeaning depictions, and also R rated
    material that is not sexually explicit, is banned in the same way as
    depictions of rape, bestiality and so on. Mere nudity, like a Playboy
    magazine centre-fold, is banned. As a result, adults and teenagers seeking
    mainstream pornography online, visit overseas sites where they are very
    likely to be exposed to violent and extreme pornography."

    EFA said relaxation of Australian Internet censorship laws would be more
    successful in minimising access to violent and extreme kinds of pornography
    than would more restrictive legislation.

    "The laws should be changed to permit on-line provision of Australian
    X-rated material, a category that has long prohibited violent and extreme
    pornography," said Graham. "This would allow the small proportion of
    Internet users who seek pornographic material online, whether adult or
    teenage, to access strictly regulated Australian sites. At present, they
    have no option other than to visit overseas sites that also contain
    horrific material and that are not, and never will be, subject to
    Australia's censorship laws."

    EFA considers that minors' access to pornography online is a matter of
    serious concern. However, given the global nature of the Internet, more
    restrictive Australian laws would be no more effective than current laws.

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  2. Re:Australia is a funny country... by muzzmac · · Score: 3, Informative

    And we have the best gun laws. :-)

    Seriously, the censorship laws do nothing.

    The data caps are the biggest issue with Internet access in Aus at the moment.

    ISP's are almost defined based on the amount of data available.

  3. Re:If Australia is anything like China... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    There is no large scale filtering. All that's required is that
    A) ISPs offer Net Nanny style software for sale
    B) Illegal content hosted in Australia is taken down.

  4. Re:Still censorship down under? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's kinda weird. In the US a naked tit causes so much trouble it has to be pixelated out of TV shows. Here nobody is bothered by tits.

    But we have this peculiar web censorship law to (try to) stop us seeing tits online. As far as I can (dimly) remember it was an offering to an ultra-conservative state senator to get him to vote for the privitisation of our telephone monopoly. We got the dud law, and he voted against privitisation. Oh how we laughed. Not!

    I always thought it would just fade into obscurity over time, but now with Howard crawling up the bum of Dubbya, I expect every crackpot US idea to be imported, and none of our own crackpot ideas to be discarded. Sigh.

  5. It is not censorship, at least not now. by Chuck+Chunder · · Score: 4, Informative

    The ISPs are merely compelled to provide approved filtering software to their customers at cost.

    No one is actually forced to filter content. As the article says only 17% of parents have actually bothered to install such filters.

    Some groups are promoting mandatory filtering and some are dead against it which is pretty much how you'd expect things to be.

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  6. Re:If Australia is anything like China... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Unfortunately, what was being implied by the parent post is absolutely wrong. The internet censoring down here is NOTHING like the "great firewall of China" since this censoring effort is merely an attempt to black-list sites of questionable and illegal nature eg: online casinos, REALLY offensive pr0n etc...

    Proxies have never been required to bypass such a system because, only some 11 or so sites (as of a year or two's count, and I seriously doubt this number has increased all that much) have been censored by this 'law', and may I add, at quite a considerable expense for each site (at least AUD$10k+ each IIRC)

    As for the impact this filtering system has had on AUS net users? None whatsoever. The sooner it is out of operation, the better. The money would be better spent elsewhere

  7. Re:Tinfoil caps by shermozle · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not in Australia. They charge per megabyte at Australian ISPs so it's in their interest to see more traffic...

  8. Re:Australia is a funny country... by ghostrider_one · · Score: 4, Informative
    On the other, they have made it illegal to sell region-coded DVD players.

    I beg to differ! The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission is against reigon-coding DVDs because of the anti-compeditive aspects of it, but walk into any place selling DVD players in Australia and I guarentee you that better than %95 of them are reigon-coded. Because of ambiguity regarding the Copyright Amendment (Digital Agenda) Act (Australia's version of the DMCA) and whether this makes reigon-free DVD players illegal "circumvention devices", most places will not stock (or admit to stocking) reigon-free DVD players.

  9. Did you know by obi-1-kenobi · · Score: 3, Informative

    That Australia filters all printed media. If you want a copy of the NY Times or internation herald tribune it takes an extra 48 hours for them read it and send it off. On a side note: In Malaysia they do sensor the information that is writen about Malaysia however it only takes them 6 hours after the paper is released. So you get the morning paper that afternoon. (paper printer in Singapore)

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    1. Re:Did you know by Guppy06 · · Score: 2, Informative

      "That Australia filters all printed media. If you want a copy of the NY Times or internation herald tribune it takes an extra 48 hours for them read it and send it off."

      Gee... they get yesterday's New York paper today... Could that possibly have something to do with, say, the International Date Line?

      "In Malaysia they do sensor the information that is writen about Malaysia however it only takes them 6 hours after the paper is released. So you get the morning paper that afternoon."

      New York's afternoon or Malaysia's afternoon? Hell, I don't think the sun is ever shining on both places at the same time...

      But, hey, it got modded up so it must be true...

  10. Re:This all started because... by ghostrider_one · · Score: 4, Informative

    Oh, and Electronic Frontiers Australia has issued a Press Release about this..

  11. Some FUD here by tanveer1979 · · Score: 3, Informative

    From Article: It wants mandatory filtering by internet service providers (ISPs), but with those aged over 18 able to opt out.

    It seems they want to regulate content mainly for minors and people who want regulation.... Nothing really wrong with that.

    The head of the Internet Industry Association, Peter Coroneos, said mandatory filtering had been ruled out because "some families just don't have an issue with it".
    "We feel the decision is best left in the hands of parents." He said the opt-out clause "could work" but feared routine filtering could seriously slow down the internet.

    Dosent seem doomsday here.......
    "Be very afraid. huh"
    Classic example of sensationalism... where it is not required
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  12. Re:As a youth of Australia by vandan · · Score: 3, Informative

    Go to http://www.abc.net.au/news/multipoll3/vote/
    and vote against the war.
    It's not like fucking Howard will listen to us, but at least we can make personal attacks based on his arrogance when we know the number of people against him.

  13. Ineffective? Wrong sofware! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Try this filter instead:

    http://dansguardian.org/

    Free for non-commercial.

  14. Re:Australia is a funny country... by hdparm · · Score: 2, Informative
    Actually, I never did and never would filter out anything. There are two reasons for this - one is that they would eventually find out about any filtered content anyway and be forced to view it elsewhere. The other one is that all that crap is unfortunatelly part of the world we live in and hiding it artificially from children would hurt them in a way that they didn't have information on time. This way they are better equipped to protect themselves - don't forget we, as parents, are not going to be here forever. I figure much better way of fighting something you don't approve is to build awareness, rather than hide in ignorance - we completely agree here. I also have to say that my wife and I have really been blessed with two amazing children and it was never a problem talking about anything with them.

    BTW, check http://oralse.cx - someone on /. had it the other day in a sig. It's a clever one and has quite a few funny images on a 'contrib' page.

  15. Re:What a novel idea! by mabinogi · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just a note from a Canberran.

    There are two governments in the ACT.

    The Federal government...those on the hill under the giant lump of aluminium, and the ACT Legislative assemibly, the people that make decisions on behalf of the Canberra people.

    Please don't say that decisions coming from the former are from Canberra, as they are not.
    The federal government has shown that it doesn't give a shit about Canberra (The lodge is a big, expensive, empty house ever since little johnny got elected), and we, definitely don't want anything to do with them, and hate it when those in other states say 'Canberra said....'. Because we, as Canberrans definitely did not say.

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  16. Re:Difficulties with supervising your child by PS-SCUD · · Score: 2, Informative

    There is a simple and free solution to this. Instead of typing in an URL in your address bar, goto www.google.com click on preferences, and set it to use a strict filter. Now run a search on where you wanted to go. American Girls gives you www.americangirl.com not a pr0n site.

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  17. Re:.xxx TLD by Tassach · · Score: 2, Informative
    I think .kids is a better idea than .xxx -- in order to get a .kids domain name, you have to enter into a legally binding contract that you will follow a clearly-defined set of rules. If you violate the terms of the contract, you lose your domain and get the pants sued off of you.

    You can't get an .edu unless you are a legitimate accredited institution (althought that might be changing) A .kids TLD should work the same way. If parents wanted to limit their children to viewing .kids sites only, that would be their perogative.

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  18. More lies by Python · · Score: 2, Informative

    "Unfortunately, I typed americangirls.com instead of americangirl.com."
    Yeah, SURE this happened. You story just doesn't check out "Fred". Ya see, both americangirl.com and americangirls.com are registered to the SAME people, and neither one of them are porn sites:

    Registrant:
    Pleasant Company (AMERICANGIRL3-DOM)
    8400 Fairway Place
    null
    US

    Domain Name: AMERICANGIRL.COM

    Administrative Contact:
    ACKER, BOB-WN-CADA (BA5375) bob_acker@PLEASANTCO.COM
    PLEASANT COMPANY
    8400 fairway place
    MIDDLETON, WI 53562
    608 836 4848 (FAX) 608 828 4777
    Technical Contact:
    Schneider, Rick (RS16264) rick_schneider@PLEASANTCO.COM
    Pleasant Company
    8400 Fairway Place
    Middleton , WI 53562
    608-836-4848

    Record expires on 26-Mar-2004.
    Record created on 25-Mar-1997.
    Database last updated on 4-Mar-2003 18:20:43 EST.

    Domain servers in listed order:

    GLACIER.BINC.NET 205.173.176.10
    SMOKIES.BINC.NET 205.173.176.11

    Registrant:
    Pleasant Company (AMERICANGIRLS9-DOM)
    8400 Fairway Place
    Middletown
    WI,53562-0998
    US

    Domain Name: AMERICANGIRLS.COM

    Administrative Contact:
    ACKER, BOB-WN-CADA (BA5375) bob_acker@PLEASANTCO.COM
    PLEASANT COMPANY
    8400 fairway place
    MIDDLETON, WI 53562
    608 836 4848 (FAX) 608 828 4777
    Technical Contact:
    Schneider, Rick (RS16264) rick_schneider@PLEASANTCO.COM
    Pleasant Company
    8400 Fairway Place
    Middleton , WI 53562
    608-836-4848

    Record expires on 24-May-2004.
    Record created on 24-May-2001.
    Database last updated on 4-Mar-2003 18:21:05 EST.

    Domain servers in listed order:

    GLACIER.BINC.NET 205.173.176.10
    SMOKIES.BINC.NET 205.173.176.11

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