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Dismal Failure of Internet Filters In Australia
An anonymous reader writes "The Sydney Morning Herald is reporting that the Australian Broadcasting Authority (ABA), the department responsible for implementing the insane Internet regulatory framework put in place by the current government, is about to drop a number of Internet Filtering packages due to their ineffectiveness. The full article is available here. There is also news that the Minister for Communications, Senator Richard Alston (whom The Register has labeled the Worlds Biggest Luddite :) ) is awaiting a review of the law with possible changes to follow. Be afraid Australia, be very afraid!"
On one hand, they have horrible broadband companies that limit you to asinine amounts of data transfering. On the other, they have made it illegal to sell region-coded DVD players. However, this is a step in the right direction.
At the ISP I used to work for in Perth, Australia we decided the best solution was to provide a page or two on our website explaining how software filtering works, then provide all the alternatives and let the clients decide, so I wrote:
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http://www.iinet.net.au/support/softwarefilters
it fulfilled the requirements of the legislation and explained the limitations of each type of flitering quite clearly - without affecting our customers or business.
From the article:"ISPs don't want people using very effective filters," he said. "They want people to be downloading as much information as possible - that's how they make their money."
....which is why they cap the bandwidth avalable to their customers
"We feel the decision is best left in the hands of parents." He said the opt-out clause "could work" but feared routine filtering could seriously slow down the internet.
They should go with an opt-in policy instead. Those willing to stick their heads in the sand and let others make decisions about what they can and can not read should stand up and ask for it by name instead of forcing the everyone else to bail out of such a scheme.
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But product developers claim the technology works where there is a real financial incentive to make it work, as in corporations.
also from the article...
"ISPs don't want people using very effective filters," he said. "They want people to be downloading as much information as possible - that's how they make their money."
it seems to me as if they're targeting the wrong corporations, heh. i mean, considering the past actions of the RIAA, MPAA, IDSA, and the BSA, they seem to think they have all the incintive in the world to do this... so... if Australlia wants censorship, they should have the copyright mongers of America do it - not ISP's! i mean, sheesh, Australlia - what were you thinking!?
For months people got around the filters by changing the way they entered the web addresses (use IP addresses instead of domain names until that ceased to work; use the integer encoding of the IP address until THAT ceased to work, etc.) They fixed that. Then they went through well-known proxies like anonymizer.com and made proxies out of well-known services like babelfish.altavista.com. They fixed that. Eventually proxy access on well-known ports will probably be blocked at the border to stave off the unknown proxy usage, but that doesn't do anything about the ports that are unknown. Then they can start filtering things that look like web traffic on non-standard ports, but SSL gateways and VPN software can always get past that until they decide to block encryption.
My point: there will always be ways around filters on the Internet, because at any point there aren't, we've no longer got an Internet. There are sufficient business interests in maintaining the Internet as a useful tool to keep the book-burning impulses of even the most ardent censorship advocates in check.
Try not. Do or do not, there is no try.
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Thankfully those of us lucky enough to live in Australia don't need the Internet, 'cause Telstra and other broadband carriers certainly won't let us have it!
Filtering the Internet is unnecessary. All we need are a few more users, and the tiny bandwidth available to the entire nation will be spread so thinly that it'll be like the good old days of 9600 baud modems. Sure, pornography will get through, but by the time a download has finished, even young teens will then be old enough to vote.
The World's Biggest Luddite is barely worthy of being called a moron (well, only if you were comparing him to a particularly stupid moron), so no doubt he'll implement another completely unworkable solution which will win him votes with people who think "Something must be done!" and the rest of us will long for the next election so that we can vote this peanut out.
Still, we only have to give him some sort of bribe, like the digital television he accepted for research purposes (as did the PM). It's so much easier when the top pollies are on the take. All we have to do is work out the right size bribe...
"ISPs don't want people using very effective filters," he said. "They want people to be downloading as much information as possible - that's how they make their money."
Weird, I always thought internet providers made money from people who pay their monthly fees but don't download a lot, and they actually loose money on those who download gigabytes a month..
Anyone care to explain how an ISP makes money because their users download a lot ??
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You know, the US censors some shows as well. It's a networks thing. The reason you don't hear about the cuts is that the shows are American made, and made so they don't need to cut anything out.
What some people don't realize, and it is probably due to their lack of understanding of technology is that in the case of internet filtering you can only limit access to certain sites but not prevent _all access to everything that is deemed inappropriate on a moral scale. Just like crime, you can prevent some but not all.
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I think people are missing the point and don't understand the way that the filtering in the article works.
The filtering happens on the PC's that are running the web browsers (e.g. NetNanny), not (as is implied by many of the posts) at the ISP's or anywhere else (yet, at least).
One of the main purposes of filtering is to protect childeren on the internet. These users will only be coming across pr0n and various other "bad" things on the internet by bad luck or maybe because they search for something they shouldn't be. I don't think we have to worry about these users making use of proxies or the like.
On the other hand, who really cares if uni student's know how to get around filters? Afterall, they should be old enough to make decisions for themselves.
Nor am I.
FWIW, I mostly agree with you, but that doesn't mean the gov handled it well. They lie (child overboard) to confuse the issue. They keep refugees for years in lousy conditions, including the fair dinkum ones. They also appear to have committed us to a non-UN sanctioned invasion
And lets not forget the Telstra HDTVs that both John Howard and Richard Alston have for evaluation, funny how things go Telstra's way.
lets face it, they are bunch of self serving drongos whose main skills lie in getting themselves voted into office. But I guess thats not exclusive to Australia.
Remember, the Internet interprets these kinds of hurdles (blocks/gates/filters etc.) as defects, and routes around them. Always has.....always will.
You can stand me up at the Gates of Hell and I... won't...back...down. T.Petty.
And I, for one, am sick of his dickotry.
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He denies that there is an unemployment problem in IT in Australia, which is a total joke because everyone I know in the industry has been feeling the pinch for over 12 months now. I work in tertiary education and enrolments are ~way~ down across all of our computing programs, IS, software engineering, everything, entrance scores (as in ratings of those coming straight from high school) have declined dramtically because of lack of demand. I have friends out of work
but NO, there is no downturn in IT at all.
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"small proportion of Internet users who seek pornographic material online" my ass. Porn was the first industry to make a profit on the Net and is still the most profitable net industry. I would bet 95%+ of all male college students have viewed pornography online within the past two weeks.
Repeal the DMCA!
Maybe they will just illegalize the whole internet this time and force all ISP's to close down completely. That way no one will ever hear a different opinion than what the Australian government approves of. Right?
Sex and human bodies are natural and beautiful... I don't understand what there is to hide. People feeling that their own bodies are something to be ashamed of probably has something to do with rediculously high suicide rates and whatnot, common in occidental society.
Spoon not. Fork, or fork not. There is no spoon.