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Are Video Blogs Ready For Prime Time?

Markmarkmark writes "Is video blogging ready for prime-time? Can Internet talking 'blog-heads' beat the talking heads on Fox? Is the next Andy Rooney-type commentator going to be a /.er? With new technology and a little creativity, this MSNBC article today thinks so. 'The big problems have been setting up lights and a camera in my study properly, so that I don't look dead, or hung over.'" The article is about the software / hardware it takes to set up a microstudio; the author does not really explore much about the video-blogging implications -- but you can.

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  1. A Day in the Life of a Geek? by Kombat · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Come on, with all the far more provocative reality TV out there (viewers choosing a spouse for someone, 16 whiny crybabies dumped in the Amazon, a dude pretending he's a millionaire), who's gonna watch Linus recompile his kernel?

    Is it possible that this whole "blogging" craze has been the fastest flash-in-the-pan to hit the technology world yet? Dare I dream that the even the uber-geeks and posers have already come to the conclusion that "hey, you know what? I'm not really that exciting, and nobody cares what I had for breakfast today"?

    "Blogging" has graphically illustrated for me the old adage, "Just because you can, doesn't mean you shouldn't."

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    1. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by Kombat · · Score: 2, Funny

      :s/shouldn't/should

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    2. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by PyroMosh · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Anyone else think that this article sounds like a Jon Katz article ? The way it tries to predict the future while sounding like it's got some great insight to the social signifigance of technology without actually understanding said technology? In my mind, he's a bit like the way some people describe Howard Stern or Rush Limbaugh. I can't stand him, I think he's an idiot, but I miss him! What ever happened to him?

      Of course Video Blogs aren't the wave of the future. At least not the near future. It would be high bandwidth instead of low, it wouldn't be easily searchable or easy to catalog. It's an order of magnitude harder to do with no tangible benefits except for a little bit of "cool factor".

    3. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by BitwizeGHC · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually "Just because you can, doesn't mean you shouldn't" is a driving philosophy behind a lot of stupid things getting done.

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    4. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by squaretorus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Blogging sucks. No blog is going to attract millions of viewers a day. But a million blogs might.

      Give me a service where I can hook up a text, picture, and video connection with my 'posse' and if I'm egocentric enough I'll take it.

      The only blogs to make it into the mainstream - i.e. attract a wider audience than their network of friends - will have a tabloid interest - nudity, offensiveness, extreme views, or some other rally call. No offence to that special breed of /.er who have 'popular' journals. But look at the content - hardly recommendations for new distros!

      Personally I don't want my 'pub rants' preserved to be thrown back at me in 20 years time when Im up for head of the city council and one of my opponents wants to raise my past life as an ecoterrorist.

    5. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by Joe+the+Lesser · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree. In fact, I don't understand the whole blogging thing, and I've gotten pretty deep into the cyberworld.

      Anytime I read an article on blogging, I wonder why:

      A:) I've never met anyone personally who talks about them.

      and B:) I've never, in all my research and surfing time, come across one. (Other than Dave Barry's, but that was from the /. story and I didn't stay long.)

      So I think I'll just ignore them until they go away, like I did with the Y2K thing.

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    6. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by kisrael · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Is it possible that this whole "blogging" craze has been the fastest flash-in-the-pan to hit the technology world yet? Dare I dream that the even the uber-geeks and posers have already come to the conclusion that "hey, you know what? I'm not really that exciting, and nobody cares what I had for breakfast today"?

      If that's what you think Blogs are, you're reading the wrong ones. Nice strawman.

      Decent blogs are either link centric, or commentary by someone who's smart. There are a number of crappy ones, but so what.

      I think video blogs are a bad idea, because it eliminates some of the advantages of the text and static image based web; you can browse, skim, and follow links from text, and you have mroe flexibility in how you parcel out your attention (close read all at once, reading here and there while doing something else, etc)

      I think there's *some* room for this kind of format though; anyone remember the very funny daily (and now defunct) Internet show "Computer Stew"? ZD Net pulled the plug alas, but they had some funny stuff...and the got started with less than $3000 of consumer grade hardware.

      (Hmm, looks you can still see episodes -- I should see if they still have their music video tribute to Notepad.exe ....

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    7. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by overunderunderdone · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The only blogs to make it into the mainstream - i.e. attract a wider audience than their network of friends - will have a tabloid interest - nudity, offensiveness, extreme views, or some other rally call.

      This is largely true but I would add that just being offensive or having extreme views is insufficient. The thing about popular bloggers like Glenn Reynolds (who probably just attracted a million viewers today - the "story" on MSNBC was one of his two blogs) is that they are actually expressing informed views on topics they have some expertise on - Glenn for instance isn't just some wacko spouting off about politics, he is a law professor that teaches constitutional law spouting off about politics - and that makes a big difference. The democratization of the media obviously results in a vast increase in the amount of dreck but among that dreck there are also some gems and they will tend to rise to the top & as they do they will be refined.

      I tend think that the democratization of video will not (for the most part) be anything like "blogging" since even amateur video takes time and forethought and the appeal of blogging is for writers and amateur (and professional) thinkers & pundits to get out their thoughts quickly in an informal format. Bloggers may occasionally use video and will likely link to those that do as fodder for their blogs but very little of it would properly be called "video blogging". As an example of what I'm talking about I'm sure Glenn is thinking about "video" and "blogging" because of this little sarcastic man-on-the-street interview/documentary a conservative blogger did at the Peace march in NYC - it was amateurish but also pretty funny and fairly well done.

    8. Re:A Day in the Life of a Geek? by Oculus+Habent · · Score: 2, Insightful

      We have technology available that allows you to search audio files by phonemes. That can be rolled together into dictation software and could provide a text track/file that would be searchable. This would require a bit of new software to be written. It would probably end up with an XML style document where each word or sentence is marked by data describing its time index.

      As a side note, technology like that would have incredibly beneficial implications for the television/movie world - imagine being able to index all the speech in a movie and bring up clips based on word usage. This would improve the gathering of footage for news programs and could make editing documentaries easier.

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  2. OK... by James_Duncan8181 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    ...so I'm a blogger. You're telling me that I can go from having a easy to read and search text site with quite low bandwidth costs to paying through the nose to give a video stream to everyone?

    Umm... no thanks.

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    1. Re:OK... by DeadSea · · Score: 4, Interesting
      So lets figure out how much video blogging will cost. Lets say that you produce a 10 minute peice a day, and that 500 people tune in each day. Lets say that you put your video in a postage sized window and it comes out to 1MB. Thats half a GB a day.

      The current rates for bandwidth at this scale are about $1/GB of transfer. You will be spending about $180 a year for bandwidth for just 500 people. By contrast, you can get a text blog out to 4000 people a day for $50 a year (easily).

      Even then your blog is going to be low production quality, low recording quality, low compression quality, and in a postage stamp sized window. I wouldn't watch your blog.

      Maybe the 500 person thing is a bit to high given that nobody will watch. But say your blog does get popular. You will be spending 35 cents for every person that views a 1 MB download every day for a year.

      My back of the envelope calculations show that video blogging is not ready for primetime.

  3. It's been done by acb · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't camgirls with LiveJournals already do something like this?

  4. I honestly hope it will NEVER be prime time by lingqi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have trouble looking at myself in the mirror. Even thinking about people being able to see me talking in a demur tone to a webcam just makes me shudder. Through the internet is nightmarish.

    I think text blogs (not even pictures) are much better - it depends on your ability to describe things well, and it puts a comfortable anonymity for you *and* your reader. Who was it that said "After TV is in every american household, you will never see another president in a wheelchair"?

    Granted, often a picture is worth a thousand words - but I don't think video blog is worth the bandwidth / storage area. Even pictures needs to be sorted out to the last 5% of the cream before they are put on magazines, etc - video is just nasty. Slide show, maybe - video, no. (Just how many people go back and watch, minute my minute, their old family videos? exactly)

    And yes, I blog; pretty regularly too, so maybe I don't speak with authority, I have (some) experience in this

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    1. Re:I honestly hope it will NEVER be prime time by Brento · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think text blogs (not even pictures) are much better - it depends on your ability to describe things well, and it puts a comfortable anonymity for you *and* your reader.

      Yeah, but what if you were reading your ex-girlfriend's blog? Don't you want to see the look in her eyes when she talks about how much she misses you and ...

      Oh, wait, this is /. Nobody misses us.

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  5. Blog entry for today by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I just ate a bagle. It was pretty good.

  6. If it turns mainstream, can we have the bandwidth? by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I like the idea. What I'm thinking about is what happens when ten thousand people start blogging and a million watches their blogs?

    Can the current Internet take that kind of an onslaught?

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  7. Nerds on TV by phrantic · · Score: 4, Funny

    The big problems have been setting up lights and a camera in my study properly, so that I don't look dead, or hung over. But those are hardware problems, not software. The software worked perfectly right out of the box.

    His initial concern is for his appearance, doesn't sound like "news for nerds" to me....

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  8. One more step toward the irrelevence of literacy by cindik · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People used to read. Then came television and people chose to watch the story.

    But at least we geeks had computers. They were arcane and baffling to most people. We had JCL. We had 80 column cards. We had numbers in bases 8 and 16 we dared to call "octal" and "hex". We had RCPM and BBSes and MODEMS. And we had nearly everything in text.

    Now command lines aren't needed because of GUI interfaces (which seem easier at first but are a pain to use to get anything serious done). Don't get me wrong, I love good graphics (like watching the approaching storm on weather.com), but video weblogs will be another step towards turning the internet into interactive television. Watch screen. Move mouse. Click. Watch screen.

    I'm tired. Would someone read Slashdot to me?

  9. what's next? by g4dget · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Text nicely separates the message from the messenger. That's something that's desirable in most communications. If we didn't have it, we'd have to invent it. Leave the video to dating services, where the messenger is the message.

    Otherwise, what's next? Slashdot video postings? Shudder.

  10. How about a video version of /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'd definately want to see the faces of the "F1r57 p057!!!!111 l337 dUUdz!!11" people.

  11. Cameras by trialsboy · · Score: 3, Funny

    I feel that any kind of camera, digital camera or video camera attached to my computer i anyway is bound to end up in my naked ass being posted around the world just after I've had a shower or something!

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  12. Always 'on' by Kiint · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Somebody using a camera cell phone nearby? In the locker room perhaps? Sure you are not 'on'? Progress in micro camera gadgets and wireless technology will keep us "always on" in more ways than one. Look at this wireless pen cam. And with blogs going the way of live audio and video feeds... Instead of Big Brother we get gazillions of networked Little Brothers :)

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  13. Is this what people want? by yuri · · Score: 5, Insightful

    weblogs are short, text based, easy to skim or ignore. Video you have to sit through it. You can't compile a big list of the videos and look at them at a glance. Its a different medium from tv.

    Just because you can provide video doesn't mean its the best format for weblogs.

    Even with video phones I think you will still find more people SMS than audio call, and more people audio call than video call.

  14. What utter pish! by Dan+B. · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't care how you moderate me, that article was rubbish. At best it was an advertisment for some video editing software and the fact that computers and cameras are now cheap enough for anyone to get in to making terrible vid-clips of bits of their lives that no one else cares about.

    Yaaawn...

    We want real news!

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  15. It's all about scanning... by peterdaly · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Video blogs will never catch on for the same reason people hate voicemail after using email. While it may be a more fully featured sensory experience, a major feature is lacking; Scanning.

    When I go to a web page, I can scan down it in a fraction of the time it would take to read the text. Voicemail and Video can't match that. Video can, if you are watching it for visual content instead of audio content. While you can "zzzzip" through messages on some voice mail systems, you still don't get what you could get from scanning a text message.

    With video blogs, you would be forced to either watch for as long as it took the author(?) to record it, or miss parts. That is part of the "killer app" of email and current blogs that video blogs can't shake a stick at.

    -Pete

  16. Don't think so on this one... by Mantrid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Personally I'd rather read things like blogs and news websites than watch video or listen to audio. If you want to know why just play any of a number of video games or computer games where the dialogue track sounds like it was recorded by the programmers...most people just don't have that interesting a voice!

  17. Not if they're by geeks, no by avdi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A lot of the comments I've seen so far have been to the effect of "how interesting can a geek on video be?" Probably not very, but consider the source of the article. It's worth noting that the article is by Glenn Reynolds, the most popular true blogger (as opposed to quasi-journalists like Drudge) on Earth. While he's certainly got a geek side - his "chief interest is in the intersection between advanced technologies and individual liberty", and he's been executive chairman of the National Space Society - he's a law professor, established commentator, and author. Tens of thousands of people visit his instapundit.com for his commentary on technology, culture, and politics news every day.

    This is the area where video blogs are likely to take off, for the same reason that standard weblogs shot up in popularity in the past two years. People are increasingly concerned with the state of international relations and public policy, and increasingly dissapointed in the established media's ability to keep up with events and to provide coverage that is compelling, insightful, and (perhaps most importantly), honest about it's bias. Many of these people have turned to weblogs to fill this information gap, and I think the same will be true of video blogs. I'd even venture to predict the possibility of the most popular video bloggers "going pro" - just like Reynolds when MSNBC offered him an online slot, perhaps we'll see major news networks give video bloggers space in their online, or maybe even broadcast, video feeds.

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  18. Repeat after me... by richieb · · Score: 2, Insightful
    ... Internet is not TV, Internet is not TV....

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  19. Oh Really? by avdi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    instapundit.com (Glenn's original blog) has topped 200,000 daily visits on at least one occasion, and his readership is growing monthly. His fellow top-teir bloggers boast similar numbers. And they're just talking about boring ole' politics and such. "Millions" might still be a long way off, but I don't think it's all that farfetched.

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    1. Re:Oh Really? by angle_slam · · Score: 5, Interesting
      instapundit.com (Glenn's original blog) has topped 200,000 daily visits on at least one occasion, and his readership is growing monthly. His fellow top-teir bloggers boast similar numbers. And they're just talking about boring ole' politics and such.

      There is obviously a large market for political writing, which is why such blogs are so popular. You don't have to read the same columnists over and over again, as political blogs contain many new voices and links to all sorts of news stories. Instapundit.com mainly contains links to other stories. But check out all the links to other blogs on the left side of the page. You have some blogs, like USS Clueless, that present lengthy analysis of the upcoming war. In the legal world, a blog about appeallate law, How Appealling is among the most popular blogs, but there are many legal blogs (sometimes called blawgs), as you can see from the compilation on Bag & Baggage. The key to these blogs I listed above isn't necessarily the content (and none of them are "what I did today" type blogs), it is the links to other stories.

  20. Save Ferris by fuzzybunny · · Score: 3, Interesting


    I'm really surprised nobody has brought up Ferris Bueller so far. You know, all the scenes where he speaks to the camera?

    Frankly, I would differentiate between something like a personal web page or diary or whatever other exhibitionist crap someone wants to put up on the internet (gawd I hate the term 'blog') and the kind of infotainment we're talking about here.

    I see lots of parallels to public access TV. You could get some pretty quality, amusing and informative stuff (like someone reminding you that life moves pretty fast, so if you don't stop and look around every
    once in a while, life might just pass you by) but a large majority of random pointless drivel running about.

    Rant rant rant. And that didn't all just have a point...

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  21. Metered Internet will kill this off eventually by EricLivingston · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As I think it's only a matter of time before we're all paying by the byte for bandwidth in one fashion or another, I also believe that stuff like video blogs and other low value/size ratio internet artifacts will go away as well (like banner ads and other graphics that will be aggressively filtered out once you've got to pay for each one you look at...)

    So, no, I don't think video blogs are the wave of the future...

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  22. Re:One more step toward the irrelevence of literac by Apotsy · · Score: 3, Funny
    GUI interfaces (which seem easier at first but are a pain to use to get anything serious done)

    Yeah, all serious graphic artists use the command line version of Photoshop.

  23. remember by infront314 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Maybe video blogs aren't ready for prime time quite yet, but remember the words from H.M. Warner at Warner Brothers in 1927:

    Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?

  24. Re:A Common Question by angle_slam · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Right. Most comments here assume that blogging is mainly of the "what I ate for breakfast" category. But the author of the article is probably the most famous blogger in the world. But what does he blog about? Politics, mainly. Instapundit acts as a compilation of news stories and his comments about them.

    Is news blogging important? Ask Trent Lott. The news about his racist comments was small news on an AP wire that no major news organization covered. Instapundit covered it immediately (after being pointed to it by Josh Marshall, another blogger. IIRC, the comments were made on a Thursday. Instapundit was all over the story, calling for his ouster by Friday and Saturday, but the major news organizations didn't cover the story until Tuesday.

  25. Re:If it turns mainstream, can we have the bandwid by Sgs-Cruz · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Multicast protocols would help a lot with this... which means we really need IPv6. Currently most things like that are done as single point-to-point transmissions. With multicast, a 10-minute broadcast could be done every 10 minutes, and you'd just have turn it on at the beginning of those 10 minutes. To the broadcaster, it would only take the bandwidth of one person watching it every 10 minutes (by current standards). It's not the same as being able to start it whenever you want, but it's not as bad as TV where it is only broadcast once per day. The Itnernet could easily support that, even with current bandwidth limitations.

    Now whether people would watch some weird geek's video blog is another story :)

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  26. Pictures yes, now how about sound? by Ashtead · · Score: 2, Funny
    One feature of the usual blogs, as websites in general, is that we have text and words there. However, if this became a video feed, we would have moving pictures, and most likely audio.

    Herein lies the rub. Imagine sitting at work during a break or some other time, and looking at somebodys full-media blog: "Hello my name is Ashtead and I have been eating peanutbutter and jelly sandwiches for breakfast ... "

    Sounding loud and clear over the cubicle farm.

    Besides, I tend to laugh when finding some funny web-page, and some of my colleagues already want to know why I am laughing for no apparent reason (to them anyways). Are they now having to wonder who all these other people in here are?

    There will be no more looking at and listening to these things at work anymore!

    Which could possibly be a good thing, considering ...

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  27. not ready for prime-time? by lost_packet · · Score: 2, Insightful

    To all the people that are saying it's not feasible to run a video blog because the cost of bandwidth is too much or most people don't have the necessary bandwidth available, you need to rub both of your braincells together just a little faster:

    use p2p.

    A text blog can still be maintained, and the video could be made available there, whether it's streamed or a downloadable binary. You could even provide a transcript. But produce the video and release on a p2p network or three. Out of the 60 million people on kazaa, someone's likely to be interested, right?

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  28. the problem isn't the price... by minitrue · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Video blogging isn't that bad of an idea. Even if you made a short 5-minute realvideo clip each day and streamed it from your standard HTTP server, it would only take up 5-10 MB of space, ISP transfer costs aside.

    To me, the real problems with video blogging have to do with the nature of video (and not the problem of bandwidth.)

    [1] Text is random access which means that as a reader, i can scan through someone's text blog and read it as fast or as slow as i wish, and instantly skip the parts I don't want to read. Video is linear which means that in order to consume the ideas presented, you have to scan audio, text, and images in order even if you don't want to.

    [2] While it will take you ten minutes to produce a compelling text paragraph with links and some light editing before you post, It takes exponentially more time to create the equivalent video "paragraph." And adding graphics and links within a text layer of a quicktime movie is really really advanced stuff. It's not the kind of stuff I see most people doing anytime soon.

    That is why I'm a lot more excited by things like the WiFi2TV project that plugs the functionality of the internet into an existing video network. Although that also presents a number of problems. We'll have to see how that one goes.

  29. Video-Blogging Software for Linux or Mac OS X? by trauring · · Score: 2, Informative

    Serious Magic's software is really amazing, but is Windows-only. It relies on DirectX and DirectShow to work, so it is unlikely it will be ported to other platforms (and they say such on their web site).

    Does anyone know of other software out there with similar features, that works on Linux or Mac OS X?

    Some of it's very cool features:

    - on-screen teleprompter
    - real-time green-screen compositing
    - cable news-style overlay text/graphics

    I haven't found anything similar out there.

  30. .plan files. by mfh · · Score: 2, Informative

    The concept of blogging isn't new, by any means. It's basically the UNIX finger service adapted for mass use on the web/AIM/whatever. There were even finger-to-web CGI scripts in 1995 that accomplished this same exact thing. Hell, I even wrote one of them for my personal use.

    Remember John Carmack's (of id software fame) .plan files? Back at the height of Quake I/II/III development, I would suspect that the number of requests to his .plan files approached 100,000 a day. Many other notable people in the gaming industry had similar setups.

    I suppose it's really a catch-22, since famous/notable people generally do not share personal information on the internet. But that's exactly what it would take to generate a substantial volume of hits/reads per day.

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