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Texas Rep Wants To Jail File Traders

kUnGf00m45t3r writes "There is an article on Wired about how Texas Rep. John Carter wants to jail some college students to scare people away from illegal file sharing. He says, "What these kids don't realize is that every time they pull up music and movies and make a copy, they are committing a felony under the United States code," Carter said in an interview. "If you were to prosecute someone and give them three years, I think this would act as a deterrent." Right..."

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  1. Hmmm... by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does this bill also contain credit for all the CD's I've legally purchased? I mean, say I have 100 legally purchased songs on CD, and I've pirated 99 songs on mp3, this still represents a net sale of 1 song by the record industry.

    Using RIAA screwy logic, does this mean that I haven't actually cost them anything?

    1. Re:Hmmm... by $rtbl_this · · Score: 4, Funny

      A rumored Amish belief that I have heard (never validated, though) is that part of their soul is stolen when a photo is taken of them.

      I wonder if that also means that part of the soul of a song is stolen every time it's copied. That would kind of explain why so much contemporary music is soulless, bland, commercial mulch.

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    2. Re:Hmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      sorry dude, no money from me

  2. Unfortunately, no deterrent for idiocy. by LazloToth · · Score: 1, Funny

    Too bad we can't jail congressmen for stupid remarks. Then again, maybe it's for the best. The prisons are overcrowded enough as it is, and the last thing these people need are more free meals.

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  3. Wonderful plan by liquidsin · · Score: 5, Funny

    College students are easily swayed by this sort of thing, and imprisoning a few for longer than most rapists get will surely straighten them out. I mean, once they showed that they put you in jail for smoking marijuana, pretty much every college student in the U.S. stopped smoking pot. This will be just like that, right?

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  4. Re:Nice Idea! by unitron · · Score: 2, Funny
    "Oh! What a great idea!
    The more you steal the less you are punished."

    Yeah, but only if you're a CEO.

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  5. Disney Jails for tots by dbcowboy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wait lets not forget those middle schoolers. I know they download music too. But how to jail kids under 16. Disney Jails of course. With a special school in jail teaching all about the evils of downloaded music. I call it Disney Jail. Smaller cells for smaller minds. Jailers/teachers dressed in big eared mouse costumes. Special areas for kindergarden and preschool. Punish them while they're young. Better yet pre-crime... jail them before they do... cause you know they will.

    1. Re:Disney Jails for tots by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 1, Funny
      Wait lets not forget those middle schoolers. I know they download music too. But how to jail kids under 16. Disney Jails of course. With a special school in jail teaching all about the evils of downloaded music. I call it Disney Jail. Smaller cells for smaller minds. Jailers/teachers dressed in big eared mouse costumes. Special areas for kindergarden and preschool. Punish them while they're young. Better yet pre-crime... jail them before they do... cause you know they will.
      And don't forget the smaller penises for the smaller anuses, too!!!
    2. Re:Disney Jails for tots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      forget all that nonsense...just try them as an adult!

  6. Jailing file traders by unitron · · Score: 5, Funny

    But if we jail people with files, won't they just cut through the bars and escape?

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  7. Thatt'll Work !!! by burdicda · · Score: 1, Funny

    Oh yeah jailtime that sure stopped my generation
    from smoking pot, taking LSD, and hitchhiking to
    Woodstock....LOL

    Also by jailing the politicians we'd be giving
    those in prison some real criminal mentors
    with educations.....wow

  8. He thinks people will stand for this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Is he from Mars or something?

  9. Re:logic? by darkov · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why not just execute offenders? Then people wouldn't commit any crimes. And you would weed out just the bad people and leave only the good for a perfect society.

  10. Deterrent? Absolutely! by Slashdolt · · Score: 2, Funny

    It would deter me from ever voting for him again!

  11. Finally! by InadequateCamel · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can't wait for this to become reality! Soon they'll jail everyone who pirates music, and lump them in with all those software traders too. Good thing we taught poor students a lesson about trying to get free versions of $500 pieces of software. Those cassette recording punks are rotting in there somewhere too! Good thing that evil Satanic practice was stopped before everyone starting doing it!

    Even if they start randomly jailing 0.1% of all offenders you have to make room for tens of thousands of "criminals" in your already overcrowded jails, and the net result is that 99.9% of people will get away with it, scot-free.

    I think they SHOULD enforce it, and make the record companies pay for the prosecution and the new jails that will be needed to house millions of young adults. Sure, schools will be pretty empty for a while and they might cause long-term economic damage, but at least kids will no longer be sharing files and can get back to smoking weed and drinking & driving!

    Go Texas! Can't trade files but you can pistol-whip that black piece of shit who offered to wash the windows of your truck.

  12. Re:What these kids don't realize by jehnx · · Score: 3, Funny

    I was thinking the same thing as I read this. If a politician is to be thought worthy of being listened to, the least he could do is speak civilly and not down about the ones he's complaining about.

    Who wants to bet he has KaZaA at home right now while he's at work downloading the new Kenny G album? Hah.

  13. Re:File traders by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    > ...or use them as human shields on iraq, etc.

    No use as a human shield, you don't want a shield that draws fire!

  14. Obligatory Soviet Union reference by panurge · · Score: 3, Funny
    Which country used to throw kids in jail for years for "hooliganism"? Yes, the former Soviet Union.

    However, I don't think this goes far enough. I have a more Texan solution for the rep. to adopt.
    Kill them all.

    Yes, it's well known that most crimes are committed by young men aged 16-30. Kill the lot of them. It'll stop most of the hacking, most of the file sharing, get rid of most of the drug addicts. It will get rid of most of the cheap foreign labor so senior US programmers will have jobs again. It will reduce US carbon dioxide output significantly so Bush can take credit for reducing global warming. It will reduce underage pregnancies. It will remove most of the opposition to the religious Right. It will greatly reduce drunk driving.

    OK, the downside is that CD sales will fall catastrophically. But in these difficult times, we must all make sacrifices. Even the RIAA. And we could have a stonking great memorial in DC, to all the young men who gave their lives in the war against (file-sharing) terror.

    Next off: Why they should bring in the death penalty for double parking.

    Stupid? Not as stupid as "let's give a few people a major criminal record for a minor offence to discourage the others." Texas and Saudi: the similarities run deep.

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  15. Re:Yeah, right.... by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why? Did the quotation marks get Unionized? what's their going rate? Will I have to pay into Retirement fund for employing them? What would be the proper benefit package for Quotation marks?

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  16. Re:logic? by Flanders · · Score: 3, Funny

    I have most certainly NOT done anything illegal!!!
    ;-)

  17. Re:logic? by BlackHawk-666 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Do you have her phone number? I want to see if she'd like some underage sex as well ;->

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  18. Re:logic? by Safety+Cap · · Score: 4, Funny
    That doesn't make sense. We need to preemptively execute people who threaten to be offenders.

    Then, and only then, will we be able to go to "Green" alert.

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  19. In Texasese.... by Rai · · Score: 4, Funny

    the verb "jail" means "temporarily detain until we execute them" or "hold them dang sonsabitches til we's can kills 'em. Yee haw!"

  20. Re: Re: Yeah, right.... by JonTurner · · Score: 2, Funny

    Tom,
    The International Court doesn't recognize the rights afforded to us all by God and protected by the US Constitution. According to the UN, any "right" that interferes with the UN's charter is invalid. What's entirely legal in one country (free speech, for instance) could be considered a criminal act by the UN, and a citizen may be tried by foreign nationals.

    See the difference? In America, God gives us rights as human beings. In the UN, the UN "gives" you rights so long as it's not contrary to the UN's "goals" (read: "inconvenient to whoever's in charge of the UN at that particular moment.")

    I'm proud that the UN International Court has been told to go stuff themselves. Soverign nations should never freely relinquish their self-determination.

  21. Good idea! by dgulbran · · Score: 2, Funny

    I propose we use one of *his* children as one of those "examples" and see how long he sticks to his tune....

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  22. Re:What these kids don't realize by PurpleFloyd · · Score: 2, Funny
    If you were trying to send someone a copy of Linux via a filesharing service, you would be comitting an even greater crime: restricting Microsoft's Freedom to Innovate. It is the God-given duty of our legislators at this time to remove all threats of competition to good, honest American companies like Microsoft. If you dare think anything else, you are a TRAITOR and a TERRORIST!

    </SARCASM> (for all you mods out there)

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  23. This is not going far enough! by ces · · Score: 2, Funny

    People who trade files, rip MP3s, or make "mix" tapes are terrorists out to destroy the American way of life pure and simple. These crimes should be enough to classify one as a terrorist under the USA PATRIOT act. Hell the police should just shoot you if they suspect you of file trading.

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