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Apple iPod Update Increases Battery Life

hhoor writes "Apple has released iPod Software 1.2.6. According to Apple, 'After updating the iPod, customers can expect at least 10 days of standby battery life on a full charge.' So maybe now it's really time to buy one."

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  1. FP! by gqgreg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sounds good to me! I wish there was some feedback here before I update my iPod, to see if Apple messes something up on my system.

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  2. Out of stock by Zo0ok · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Time to buy one? I have tried buying one since the beginning of January. Out of stock... new upcoming models not yet relesased...

    That is for the 5Gb PC iPod (for a friend of mine), of course I have had my own Mac iPod for more than a year now.

    1. Re:Out of stock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      I work for compusa and the 5gb ipod is DO1 status in our database, meaning it was discontinued... You wont be seeing it any time soon... 10gb ipod is the new 5gb..

    2. Re:Out of stock by amarkham · · Score: 2, Interesting


      If the 5GB is discontinued, then perhaps that means that a 40GB version is imminent. I'm hoping that this coinincides with the announcement of the music service that has been talked about recently.

      Would also love an FM receiver, but maybe that's asking too much...

      Anybody have any G2 on the above?

  3. Nethack by termos · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does these things come with nethack?
    If they do, they need much more than 10 days of battery time in order to complete the game.

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  4. Annoying Lock-ups by Oculus+Habent · · Score: 2, Informative

    My biggest issue is having my iPod not start back up after pausing & locking it. It "starts playing" but is just locked. Reset to fix.

    It only takes a few seconds, but it's annoying. Maybe 1.2.6 will help out in that area, too.

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    1. Re:Annoying Lock-ups by Oculus+Habent · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Really. I've had my iPod well over a year now and the battery is still working fine.

      As for unreplaceable, the casing can be opened and the battery can be disconnected from the iPod. Of course, finding one could be tough. Perhaps Apple will offer in-store replacement of the battery. That still wouldn't help me when mine finally does die.

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  5. Holy Crap by Oculus+Habent · · Score: 4, Insightful

    5.2 MB! As if that's not crazy, there's a Gzip file that expands to 51 MB inside that. Most of it seems to be absorbed in different languages. That's 8-12 songs worth of space, though.

    Also, couldn't this have been available via Software Update? I don't spend much time at the iPod homepage. I suppose not everyone needs it, but couldn't there be some way of telling if you ever had an iPod connected? Wishful thinking, maybe.

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    1. Re:Holy Crap by bats · · Score: 3, Informative

      All the previous iPod updates have come through Software Update. I'm guessing it won't appear for a couple hours/days, like most every other update. They appear on the website for the die-hards and trickle into Software Update for the rest of the world too busy to check the iPod homepage everyday.

    2. Re:Holy Crap by clarkcox3 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Most of that 51 MB is the iPod Software Updater application itself (i.e. it goes on your Mac's HD, and not on the iPod). Also, remember that the iPod's firmware is itself 32 MB.

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    3. Re:Holy Crap by Oculus+Habent · · Score: 2, Informative

      It takes up space. I noted the 1.2.1 installer folder was sitting next to the 1.2.6 folder in Utilities when I went to launch it.

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  6. Odd statement hhoor by biglig2 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Was an occasional bug in the battery monitor a deal breaker keeping you from an ipod? You must be very demanding in other aspects of your life. ;-)

    Downloaded, about to take the plunge. The Changelog is minimialist;
    Changes since 1.2:

    Version 1.2.6 has improved battery management, providing the following updates:

    * Increased playback time on scroll-wheel iPods
    * Longer stand-by time for all iPods

    Looks like it is a definite must for owners of the lower capacity pods.

    I see in other places that it does not implement the cursed EEC mandated volume lowering, so don;t let that hold you back.

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    1. Re:Odd statement hhoor by Mikey-San · · Score: 2, Funny

      "On scroll-wheel iPods"? As opposed to the trackball iPods that are so popular? ;-)

      -/-

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    2. Re:Odd statement hhoor by galaxy300 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Newer iPods use touchpads instead of mechanical wheels.

    3. Re:Odd statement hhoor by Mikey-San · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, I know. My first thought when I saw "scroll-wheel" was "mouse", so I sorta ran with it. ... Into a wall, I guess. :-)

      Karma to burn!

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    4. Re:Odd statement hhoor by biglig2 · · Score: 2, Informative

      On the original 5Gb ipods the round bit you scroll was an actual moving part rotating wheel.

      On the later, 10Gb and 20Gb units, it's a touch sensitive ring (no goatse links please!) instead.

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  7. Works great for me by Fulkkari · · Score: 5, Informative
    I wish there was some feedback here before I update my iPod, to see if Apple messes something up on my system.

    I updated my 10 GB Mac iPod, and the updating process went smoothly. I have had no problems with the update. So go ahead and update. You should however always make backups if you want to be sure.

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  8. Re:hmmm...... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    It was made for seti@home, and is working constantly on that, and breaking the X-Box key when the seti@home code needs to "phone home" to get a longer set of jobs.

    That's why iTunes has that "Connect to Internet when needed" option. It's so that when you sync your iPod the iPod can send its latest batch of results to seti@home and download new work to do.

  9. Clock and firmware by elliotj · · Score: 5, Interesting

    After updating my firmware the last time (from 1.1 to 1.2) I noticed a significant reduction in standby time. I did some research and found that the inclusion of a clock was the culprit: the iPod was never designed to keep time using a small power trickle in the same way that say, a digital watch, or your PC, is able to keep time without requiring a massive battery. The solution was to revert to v. 1.1 of the firmware and I got my standby life back.

    Does anyone know if the new firmware removes the clock feature? Personally I have no real desire to upgrade: I don't need any more functions from the device - I only need it to play tunes and that's it.

    1. Re:Clock and firmware by JArneaud · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I just updated my 5GB to 1.2.6 and the only strange thing that I noticed was that the clock was frozen at 12:00:00 1Jan 2002. If you manually adjust the date and time it starts running normally. I haven't found a way to turn it off again, short of running an iPod restore.

      Could this be a power-saving feature? Disabling the clock until the user actually decides to start using it? (I know I never do, so it wouldn't be a big loss and the extra run time would be great)

    2. Re:Clock and firmware by dhovis · · Score: 4, Informative
      I did some research and found that the inclusion of a clock was the culprit

      No, you and everyone else blamed the clock, as it was the only apparant change to the iPod firmware that seemed like it might have introduced a drain on the battery.

      However, if this update works, it blows that theory out of the water. The knowledgebase article for this says that the problem was that the iPod was incorrectly interpreting the battery charge. It seems that the 1.2 firmware was not allowing the iPod to use all of the battery capacity, and was shutting down when there was still plenty of life left. There is no way anyone outside of Apple could have figured this out, so the clock got blamed.

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    3. Re:Clock and firmware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You don't need any more functions? Really? Want any bugs fixed?

      How about creating and editing playlists or at least minimally being able to queue up the next N song(s)? Ever try to be a dj for some friends or pass your pod around the car and let others pick tracks? I find myself watching the remaining time constantly and having to get the timing just right when switching tracks so as not to cut the current track short or allow the logical next track in the list to start playing before you click to play your chosen track.

      How about that delay between tracks? Surely it's possible to make an album played on the pod sound just like the original album...

      Or what about showing the "All Songs" list for an Artist in alphabetical order (it could be an option, but I consider the current behavior a bug). I have 230 Zappa tracks on my pod right now and finding a particular one in the list is quite difficult. Note that I need to do this to listen to Zappa (or King Crimson, etc) on random, usually by album. Even worse is trying to find a song in the "All Songs" list for a Genre.

      Surely there are many improvements in the software that could/should be made.

      Anyone want ogg support?

  10. My pet iPod-peeves: by Erik+K.+Veland · · Score: 4, Interesting

    - Occasionally shuts down when shoving the remote-control into the jack. I have to smoothly press it it.
    - Said remote-controls connection is finnicky. I have to press it into place a bit too often if I have it in my pocket.
    - The clock is some archaic system with letters instead of the standard 24-hour clock used in most parts of the world.

    None of these are deal-breakers though. I just love my 20 GB iPod. Bring on AAC already Apple!

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    1. Re:My pet iPod-peeves: by troc · · Score: 2, Informative
      Occasionally shuts down when shoving the remote-control into the jack. I have to smoothly press it it.

      I had that problem so I mentioned it to Apple and I have just received a new remote in the post...... Very good service there. Assuming your iPod is still in warranty, give 'em a call.

      There's stuff about the remote problems in Apple's forums. It seems the newer remotes have been changed slightly to solve the problems you are having......

      Troc

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    2. Re:My pet iPod-peeves: by PotPieMan · · Score: 2, Informative

      - Said remote-controls connection is finnicky. I have to press it into place a bit too often if I have it in my pocket

      It sounds like you have the same problem I did. Until I read iPod: Remote Buttons Do Not Work.

  11. What happened to the missing versions by MrMickS · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I keep my iPod up to date but it's running 1.2.1 what happened to the missing versions? I know that there was a 1.2.2 to stop deafening the French but what about the others?

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    1. Re:What happened to the missing versions by tuxedobob · · Score: 3, Insightful

      My guess would be that they were internal releases which were not made public. It happens sometimes.

  12. mechanical scrollwheel by Doctor+Jekyl · · Score: 2, Interesting

    * Increased playback time on scroll-wheel iPods
    * Longer stand-by time for all iPods

    Since battery life has improved for the mechanical scroll wheel iPods, as well as for all around standby time for all iPods, does that mean iPods with the mechanical scroll wheel now have better battery life than the new ones? Or were they behind before and now they are caught up?

    In any case, I like the mechanical scroll wheel better. It feels more precise to me. Except that it gets craps stuck under it on the sides. :-(

  13. Increases the standby time to 10 days... From what by rhetland · · Score: 2

    I have been using my Ipod sporadically for a while. One very annoying thing is that when you havn't recharced it for a few days, and want to go for a run, the battary is dead.

    I was never exactly able to figure out how long my standby time was, but it seemed short enough that I was considering contacting apple about it (3 days perhaps..).

    What have other readers found as their standby time using the older firmware versions?

  14. About Software Update by megajini · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There are good reasons not doing so:

    • SoftwareUpdate updates existing Software not Hardware
    • Updating every Mac was done by Apple once (at least my machines loaded it), and I think it was waste of time and bandwith for most people...
    • Doing kind of "auto-detection" isn't very original either, as I often connect my iPod to various Macs/PCs just to transfer data (WOW - Floppy with 20Gb and FAST) - thus ALL of them would have to download iPod Updates forever

    Beautiful would be an automatic Internet Check performed through iTunes whenever an iPod is connect and an internet link is active. Then only required data should be loaded, because I don't nead French and so on... (native German speaker)

    1. Re:About Software Update by phillymjs · · Score: 2, Informative

      But there already were updates before that were released through Software Update-- and I've seen them 'want' to be downloaded to machines that never came near an iPod, and even to a machine running OS X Server. We just mark them 'inactive', but still...

      Apple should build "a check for iPod update" feature into iTunes, with the option to have it check automatically-- then only people with an iPod would enable/use the feature, anyone who didn't use iTunes could just download the updates from Apple's site, and anyone who had no need of it at all wouldn't even see it come up in Software Update.

      ~Philly

  15. Aha! by tamen · · Score: 3, Funny

    So this is were they put the lost battery life from the iBooks!

  16. Re:hmmm...... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    aaargh will you people stop spreading the urban myth of a dual processor iPod.

    The 'second processor' is not a second processor. in fact it's not a processor at all, it's simply a logic array that happens to be made by the same manufacturer as the real CPU.

    repeat after me

    "apple do not sell ipods to make clusters from"

  17. Now just give us other formats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    PLEASE- OGG, AAC (mpeg-2 & mpeg-4), mp3pro and MPC support.

    iTunes LAME plug-in (and those presets), Accerator (for mp4/aac experimenting) and Audion (mp3pro for spoken word/audio books) all help, but iPods restrictions keep me from fully taking the sound to the next level.

    Please Apple live up to the openness you're stating with OS X. Have your music device be as agnostic with sound as your OS is with fonts, etc.

  18. iPod on Linux by dakkar · · Score: 4, Informative

    I use an iBook with OS X, and a Linux machine.

    Recently I acquired a iee1394 PCI card, and used the conversion tool from iPod-on-Linux to transform it into a FAT32 iPod, and gtkpod to manage songs on it.

    The conversion tool installed firmware 1.2.1, but this last iPod upgrade wanted to reformat my iPod. So now I had a 1.2.6 iPod, but HFS+ instead of FAT32.

    Never to lose courage, I copied the 'Firmware' file from inside the upgrader's directory on the Mac to the PC, over the 1.2.1 firmware used in the conversion tool. Run the conversion tool again, and now I have a 1.2.6 FAT32 iPod, and I'm filling it up again using gtkpod.

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  19. anyone else have poor linux compat with the iPod? by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I bought an ipod with the sole intention of trying to get it to work with linux. I run the latest stable 2.4.20 kernel and my firewire stuff works with all my drives (as best as FW -can- with linux, but that's another story).

    I can see the files when I mount the ipod and copy them across ok - I think. but when I play them, the file sizes are wrong and so a song that says its 30minutes (unlikely) cuts off after a few minutes and some songs that are long cut off too short! weird.

    so I returned it. it appears that for me, at least, ipod/linux is not nearly ready for prime time. too bad.

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  20. Re:Why does the iPod have no off switch? by idsofmarch · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hold down the Play button.

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  21. Re:Why does the iPod have no off switch? by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Well blow me down with a feather - I didn't know about that!

    But as we all know it doesn't really switch off the iPod. It's still consuming battery power at a prodigious rate. I want a real off button so I can leave my iPod off for a month and expect it to work the moment I switch it on. Why can't it just dump out its state to disk and shut down for real?

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  22. Re:Why does the iPod have no off switch? by Del+Vach · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I can't speak to standby time, but I believe it does a fairly good job of power management. When it's running, the drive only spins up as often as it needs to refresh the 32 Meg cache. And when you pause it, it powers itself off after... three minutes? So at that point it's only expending however much energy is necessary to:
    • Power the LCD
    • Save the RAM state
    • Maintain the clock
    I tend to skip lots of songs, so I get less playtime because I'm forcing the HD to keep spinning up. But I also have a first version 5Gig and my battery life is barely over an hour at this point. Figures I got a Dr. Bott auto charger last week! When I first got it, I was able to get a solid 10+ hours. I'll have to see how much this update improves things.
  23. Re:Why does the iPod have no off switch? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Batteries lose power on their own, especially the lithium and nickel-metal hydrides. Leave a rechargable battery sitting for a month and it'll slowly drain.

    Of course, it's pretty unresaonble that the battery drains in standby over a few days. Hopefully this update fixes that.

  24. Re:Why does the iPod have no off switch? by rdarden · · Score: 2, Informative

    Oddly I've heard this question three times in the last two weeks, but only four times total in the 16 months I've owned an iPod.

    Anyway, my preferred method is to hit PAUSE then lock the unit (the sliding switch on top). Fastest method I know of, includes locking the device so it won't be turned on again by accident, and it only takes two minutes for the iPod to shut itself down.

    And with this new update we hopefully won't have to worry about those two minutes killing our battery.

  25. yeah... by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is Slashdot - ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which we will not put.

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  26. There is an off switch by Cadre · · Score: 2, Informative
    Fastest method I know of, includes locking the device so it won't be turned on again by accident, and it only takes two minutes for the iPod to shut itself down.

    Press and hold down the play button for about two seconds and the iPod will immediately turn off.

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  27. Buyer Beware by DaracMarjal · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yeah I'll probably get modded down for this, and no-one will see it, but here is a lone voice of dissent warning you about the perils of buying an iPod and about just how stupid they can be at Apple Customer Support.

    1. Re:Buyer Beware by Mononoke · · Score: 3, Informative
      lone voice of dissent warning you about the perils of buying an iPod and about just how stupid they can be at Apple Customer Support.
      You're right. A lone voice. One anectodal episode of bad service and a bad day. It wasn't even the US version of Apple Support.

      Every piece of hardware (computer, automobile, etc.) ever created has stories like this attached to it.

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  28. Actually... by vought · · Score: 4, Informative

    I wrote some of the documentation for the PP5002C and PP5003 chips used in the iPod when I worked for Portal Player last year.

    In fact, the chip IS a dual ARM7 core with supporting I/O logic. So it is you, in fact, who is mistaken.