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Which LED Flashlight Do You Use?

An anonymous reader asks: "There are now a LOT of LED flashlights on the market. A quick Google turns up 59,000 hits. Some of these flashlights are pretty ballsy. The LightWave 4000 contains 10 LEDs and offers one month of continuous light output. The Photon MicroLight is bright as all getout and goes on your keychain. The EverLED will go in a MagLight or any other high quality existing flashlight. There is even an entire web forum devoted to modifying existing flashlights to use LEDs. What experiences have Slashdot readers had with LED flashlights, and what recommendations would you make to a choosey buyer?"

147 comments

  1. And more importantly... by quintessent · · Score: 3, Funny

    Does it run Linux?

    1. Re:And more importantly... by sporty · · Score: 0

      I was sitting in my bedroom, about to go to bed, listening to my iPod. I put the timer on 30 minutes, hook it into my headphones and hang them over my bed. Nice to fall asleep to music sometimes.

      Well, I put it down in a drawer, so I won't smack it off the table and turn off my lamp. The coolest thing ever happened. My drawer looked like a treasure chest with light pouring out a-la "Zelda 64" when you get a big chest.

      Points of this story?

      - The iPod makes for a good flashlight.
      - Yes, It runs linux.

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    2. Re:And more importantly... by Cy+Guy · · Score: 1

      Does it run Linux?

      Well it "supports" Linux (at least in a way). It was one of the free Polaroid style (uses the same flat battery technology Polaroind uses to power their film packs) lights Sun was giving out a Linux conference they were sponsoring.

    3. Re:And more importantly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The important question is does the project mentioned in your sig support Linux. The answer is no. That is why I instead run Folding@Home on my Linux servers, reniced to 19.

    4. Re:And more importantly... by quintessent · · Score: 1

      I instead run Folding@Home [stanford.edu] on my Linux servers

      Thanks for the tip. I've added this to my sig.

  2. Support OSDN by nocomment · · Score: 4, Informative

    Imagine a beowol....ahhhh forget it.

    If you really wanted a cool flashlight you'd get one of these from thinkgeek and support OSDN! :-)

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    1. Re:Support OSDN by linuxwrangler · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, but you look like a pervert every time you charge the thing :)

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    2. Re:Support OSDN by cyb97 · · Score: 1

      but it'll be dark everytime you shake it to kingdom come, if your quick enough you'll stop shaking just before the light comes back and nobody will see what you did to make it shine ;-)

    3. Re:Support OSDN by sheddd · · Score: 2, Informative

      I like thinkgeek. but... Those flashlights SUCK. Even with a full charge a lighter would do better; They're neat but completely useless. And that damn fridge I bought from them quit cooling... how do you figure? 1 moving part (the fan) and a peltier. One of my projects this week is to figure out why it doesn't work worth a crap now (bought as a present for dad) and to hopefully fix it.

    4. Re:Support OSDN by grondu · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, but you look like a pervert every time you charge the thing

      Think of it as practice.

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    5. Re:Support OSDN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Supporting OSDN is fine, but those flashlights suck.

  3. Princeton Tec Pulsar by diesel_jackass · · Score: 2, Informative

    You can get them at sporting good's stores for less than $8. They are surprisingly bright, and amazingly useful. I've got a red one and a blue one.

    More info

  4. Hey! by MarkGriz · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm blind... you insensitive clod!

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    1. Re:Hey! by jolshefsky · · Score: 2, Funny

      Boy have I got a flashlight to sell you ... it lasts forever on batteries you'd consider completely dead! ...

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      Karma: Poser (mostly affected by adding this line long after everyone else did)

    2. Re:Hey! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I make my own flashlights...you insensitive clod!

  5. Turtlelite II by ivan256 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I love my Turtlelite II. It's got everything you'd expect from an traditional flashlite minus the terrible battery life, yellow light, and fragile bulb. The 2 LEDs and the reflector make it perform quite similarly to a regular flashlight. The best part: I haven't changed the batteries in 18 months since I got it. You can stand it on it's back and light an entire room decently when the power goes out, and it'll last all night and through the next night. It's fairly compact, but not so small as to be unusable for long periods like the little squeezy flashlights, and to top it all off, it floats!

    They're a little pricy at $28, but I think it's well worth it. Also, if you have a regular flashlight that you particularly like, they'll sell you a 2 LED "bulb' and a reflector so that you can convert your favorite flashlight...

    1. Re:Turtlelite II by morcheeba · · Score: 1, Funny

      I love the linked image!!

      It has a tiny picture of a hand holding the flashlight, labeled "actual size". Do they mean that it's actually the ~1/2 inch size I see on my screen, or does it mean that they aren't using a stunt double super mega-large hand to illustrate the size?

    2. Re:Turtlelite II by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not only that, but the hand's missing a finger, and the remaining three are at a near-impossible angle to the rest of the hand.

    3. Re:Turtlelite II by Hubert_Shrump · · Score: 1

      I'll second that. Have one myself.

      Won't stand toe-to-toe w/ an incandescent for cutting the dark, but it'll sure as hell outlast it.

      Smells good, too.

      Still on my original batteries, ~18 months in.

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    4. Re:Turtlelite II by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Geocities sucks so bad. I depsise having to go to the index page before going to the link I actually want to go to. Would be nice to have a browser that let me set the referrer tag.

    5. Re:Turtlelite II by buttahead · · Score: 1

      I was just going to say that! I can't figure out who could be so out of it to put that there. Even if the picture went into a magazine, there is no way it could be actual size.

  6. I like this light by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    I like the light built into my key. Of course, it's a little spendy.

  7. Trek 4 by Jonathan_S · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've got the Trek 4 4 led flashlight. Working great and still on its orignal set of batteries after 8 months.

  8. For all your LED torch info ... by tdelaney · · Score: 4, Informative

    Go to Dan's Data.

    1. Re:For all your LED torch info ... by ivan256 · · Score: 2, Informative

      The best LED flashlight (and just plain LED anything) reviews I've seen are at The LED Museum.

    2. Re:For all your LED torch info ... by Daniel+Rutter · · Score: 1
      Thank you, thank you :-).

      Specifically, you can find my LED flashlight reviews (newest first) here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here :-).

  9. The EverLED ROCKS!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    I bought one of these...nothing like the normal LED flashlights! This thing was BRIGHT...much brighter than a normal bulb, and it just lasted and lasted and lasted. It turns ANY flashlight into an LED flashlight...amazing. The only product like it. I highly recommend it!

  10. I use two... by Eagle7 · · Score: 3, Informative

    For working around the house, pearing into dark corners, etc, I use an Opalec NewBeam drop in for my MiniMag. It is voltage regulated, so you get 10 hours of constant brightness, and it has a low a battery indicator LED. It is driven with 3 bright white LEDs. Nice, tight focused beam. Not quite as bright as the Maglight with the incadescent bulb and fresh batteries, but perfectly usable. And not too bright to annoying when using it to read in the dark, work up close to yuor face, etc.

    For backpacking, I use a Black Diamond Moonlight headlamp, with 4 LEDs. Runs on 4AAAs, supposed to go for 70 hours, and is as bright as the NewBeam.

    I like both very much. Probably THE best place for information like this on the web is Candle Power Forums, and the LED Museum. At CPF you'll find all sorts of user experiences with most everything out there, and some home grown "pill" style ultra bright MagLight dropins. These are guys who collet $100+ flashlights! And LED Museum has a ton of technical information and reviews.

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    1. Re:I use two... by Eagle7 · · Score: 1

      And damn, I forgot to preview. Sorry about the mutated link.

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  11. Eternalight! by travail_jgd · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I got an Eternalight "Ergo-Marine" for Christmas, and it's defintely worth the money. The four LEDs are microprocessor-controlled, so they can be dimmed, made to flash in sequence, or strobe. There is a lot of "spill" light, so it's very useful for walking in the dark. Unfortunately, since there are no focusing lenses, the range isn't that great, and you need a precision screwdriver to change the batteries. More information can be found at Technology Associates (yes, their website is poorly named :).

    I also have an Energizer folding LED light. It's a great booklight and nightlight, but it's fragile and hard on batteries.

    1. Re:Eternalight! by Artemis · · Score: 1

      I cannot buy anything from a company whose website is www.techass.com. Too many goate.cx possibilities.

    2. Re:Eternalight! by travail_jgd · · Score: 1

      "I cannot buy anything from a company whose website is www.techass.com"

      Your loss. My Eternalight gets used on an almost daily basis. In three months, the batteries haven't been noticably drained.

      If you're afraid of the link, try Googling for an Eternalight.

    3. Re:Eternalight! by Artemis · · Score: 1

      I wasn't serious, I'll just have to buy it at home, I don't think my employer would appreciate a bunch of hits to techass.com. Thanks for the recommendation though.

  12. Princeton Tec pulsar II by heldlikesound · · Score: 5, Funny

    I found these guys a REI.com on sale for $7 bucks a peice, I bought three of them about two years ago and am still on my first one. I put it on my keychain and use it at least once a day for finding stuff in my car at night, plugging and unplugging cables behind dark desks, and pushing it really hard into the palm of my hand so i can see my veins.

    Pretty cool stuff...

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  13. Yup, the EverLED is the bomb by Masada1212 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I got 4 different colors of the everLED. Check out the Teal. www.everled.com

    1. Re:Yup, the EverLED is the bomb by Masada1212 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Why dont you suck me sideways. American saying will stay on the internet, and if you are lucky, we will take over your country and make you say them.

  14. Various by linuxwrangler · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have a couple of the PALight flashlights (blue and white). They are nice due to the very dim always-on setting so they can be found in the dark. They also run on 9V batteries which is ideal for me since once a year I go around and change the 9V batteries in my smoke detectors, water alarm, alarm-clock backup, etc. The batteries still have substantial life left and the PALlight about the only place I can use them. Of course the batteries last so long that it's almost impossible to use up even my used batteries. The PALlights also feature a couple of brightness modes and a strobe mode.

    For a head lamp I use the Princeton-TEK 3led light (stays in my networking bag for peering behind computers under desks) but if I were to buy today I would get the Zipka since it fits in a tiny space with not in use.

    I've kept a white photon micro-light on my keyring for years but there are many acceptable alternative keychain lights now.

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    1. Re:Various by CaptainStormfield · · Score: 1
      I too am a big fan of Princeton Tec's Aurora. Very light weight, long running time on 3 AAA batteries batteries (150 hours) , three different light levels, a strobe feature, water tight, etc.

      I had occasion to use it just last night when we lost power due to Denver's 1 meter (approx.) of snow.

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  15. I have a couple by mpechner · · Score: 1

    I keep the campfire white LED on the keychain. Itwas about $10 and has an on/off switch. Good for when you don' have a third had to squeeze it to turn it on. I have a "Torch" 3 white led / 3AAA battery for around the house. It was about $15. I'm waiting to replace my quartz halogen Torchars with a white led lamp.

  16. Streamlight Pro Polymer 4AA LED by metamatic · · Score: 4, Informative

    Key features:

    1. Lightweight.
    2. Very bright, 7 LEDs. (Brighter than my big Mag-Lite.)
    3. Soft diffuse glow over an area, good for reading.
    4. Runs for 155 hours on 4 AA cells.
    5. Waterproof to several meters.
    6. Floats in water.
    7. Rubber and polycarbonate construction, can easily survive a 2m drop onto solid concrete.
    8. Push-button rubber-sealed switch on the end.
    9. Available in black or safety yellow.
    10. Fits in a coat pocket.

    Got it for my significant other after she had a bad experience with a Mag Lite and a puddle in some dark woods.

    Apparently Streamlight is the brand of choice for rescue workers.

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    1. Re:Streamlight Pro Polymer 4AA LED by Macgyver7017 · · Score: 1

      i am on a search and rescue team. we have at least 4 of these in each truck. some of the newer ones we have bought are the LED model, both are quite very durable and waterproof. the led models last forever on a set of batteries. these light are far superior to any of the "mag-light" types out there for anything but beaning someone over the head with. Jon Sullivan

    2. Re:Streamlight Pro Polymer 4AA LED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why don't you say girlfriend or wife or buttbuddy; it just sounds so fucked up to say "significant other". Does that mean there are others, they just aren't as significant?

    3. Re:Streamlight Pro Polymer 4AA LED by metamatic · · Score: 1

      Congratulations, you win a prize.

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    4. Re:Streamlight Pro Polymer 4AA LED by coyote-san · · Score: 1

      Never underestimate the value of beaning somebody over the head. That's actually one of the values of the large maglights - it can be used as clubs.

      Even if you're an armed guard, you want something for close-in self-defense. A knife can beat a gun if the attacker is within 25 feet or so.

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    5. Re:Streamlight Pro Polymer 4AA LED by binarybum · · Score: 1

      "A knife can beat a gun if the attacker is within 25 feet or so."

      yeah I saw that movie. it was SooOOO awesome!!!!!!!!

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  17. Photon MicroLight by darkpurpleblob · · Score: 1
    I have an original red Photon MicroLight on my keychain and am very happy with it. I choose red as it preserves my night vision when using it in the dark.

    You can find the advantages and disadvantages of all the different coloured LEDs here.

    1. Re:Photon MicroLight by cryptochrome · · Score: 1

      I got the white MicroLight. I use it ALL the time. Best keychain I ever bought.

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    2. Re:Photon MicroLight by Christopher+Cashell · · Score: 2, Informative

      I have to agree, here. Photon MicroLight's work *really* well. Almost four years ago, I bought two of them (Red and Green). They both still work great, and I still haven't had to change the battery on the red one.

      After getting them, a handful of friends of mine decided to purchase some, and I don't think any one of us has been at all disappointed. I now keep two in my pocket with me, as well as keeping one in my car, and a couple with my camping gear.

      I would highly recommend these to anyone looking for a small (and *bright*) flashlight.

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    3. Re:Photon MicroLight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gotta agree. I have the MicroLight II and it rocks. The best part is I've always have a light handy.

  18. I use a Photon on my keychain. by Deagol · · Score: 1
    It works great.

    However, if I were to buy a full sized one, I'd go for either: 1) A multi-LED drop-in for my 3 D-cell Mag Lites (any good ones out there?); 2) The Inova tactical light (drool!); or 3) the Lightwave linked to in the original post.

    1. Re:I use a Photon on my keychain. by n1ywb · · Score: 3, Informative

      Check out the EverLED. It uses a single LED, but it's a 1 watt Luxeon LED. Plus because it's a side-emitter LED, you can still focus your Maglight's beam. Try that with any other LED Maglight bulb.

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  19. Driver-based vs. Resistor by doctor567 · · Score: 4, Informative
    I have been testing LED flashlights for 2½ years now. I can say that things are changing fast. Driver technology is being used to make LED flashlights brighter and way more efficient than the "old" days. This is basically a box that sits between the batteries and the LED bulb itself, making sure the LED gets the voltage and current it needs for max efficiency (like a transmission in a car).

    They are pretty hard to find, but if you want the ultimate battery life, look for an LED flashlight with a driver. We're talking about... like 4-10 times the battery life of a resistor run (no-driver) LED here. The EverLED is one such product, but the driver is somehow contained inside the bulb, so it can be used to replace normal incandescent bulbs (it's the same form factor as the normal drop in flashlight bulbs). Pretty cool.

  20. EverLED Flashlight Bulb by Chief+Tard · · Score: 1

    This EverLED thing just goes in ANY flashlight? That is cool... And the Super LED they use is 10 times brighter than the ones used in those keychain flashlights. Anyone else thinking about getting one of these? They say it uses the flashlight's reflector, but I've never seen anything like this before.

  21. I have not bought one for a simple reason. by trentfoley · · Score: 1

    I keep getting spam advertising for these everlasting flashlights! The Last Flashlight You Will Ever Need!

    So, I won't be buying one.

  22. Extended question... by MrIcee · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The question posted is an excellent one. I've often wondered just how good the LED flashlights are for brightness.

    My specific use is that I hike the lava fields at night here in hawaii... On moonless or cloudy nights it can be pretty dangerous because of the huge cracks (some of them 30 ft or deeper) and very very uneven ground (you regularly go up and down 15 ft as you clambor over tumulous (lava tubes)).

    We use super bright flashlights so we can see distances as well as illuminate the area to find the best paths around obstacles. Since we're 20 miles from any services and any lights (hawaii is VERY dark at night) we often bring 3 or 4 flashlights and plenty of batteries.

    We prefer to use flashlights that have a fairly wide field so that it illuminates as much as possible in front of us (and a bit to the sides) without blinding others in the party.

    Any recommendations specific to these needs would be GREATLY appreciated since I feel that LED, if bright enough, would be great as it would be lighter and have infinatly better shelf life and battery life.

    Anything that is lighter than my 2 million candle power 6 volt rechargable would be a blessing ;))

    (btw, before you say it, yes, we do use nightvision too but that is very dangerous to wear and walk at the same time, plus it doesn't do that great a job of showing the cracks in the ground which are often in shadow... though it DOES do great for finding where the flowing lava is ahead of you - the NightOwl M is batteryless and uses squeeze pizeo for power - very neat).

    1. Re:Extended question... by n1ywb · · Score: 1

      Consider putting an EverLED in a Maglight. It's everthing you've come to expect from a Maglight plus the increased brightness and battery life you get from the EverLED. It works in all C and D cell Maglights, regardless of how many cells. Another big advantage for you is that the EverLED never just dies. When the batteries finally start to give it up, it dims slowly, giving you ample warning. And if you turn the light off for a few minutes and give the batteries a chance to catch their breath, you can get another minute of good light. Repeat this and you can make it all the way home on effectively dead batteries.

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    2. Re:Extended question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i have hiked the lava fields in hawaii too and i know how dangerous they are. my PrincetonTec Impact led flashlight is great, but it is not as bright as an incandescent. you can look into the led solutions from the links others have posted, but i recommend sticking with halogen/incandescent flashlights for lava hiking.

    3. Re:Extended question... by Pentagram · · Score: 1

      Have you considered caving torches?

    4. Re:Extended question... by travail_jgd · · Score: 1

      Have you or your friends tried using a fluorescent lantern? I've never tried them myself, but battery life and light output are supposed to be decent.

    5. Re:Extended question... by MrIcee · · Score: 1

      Yes, we've tried fluorescent... in fact, I have 20 or so different flashlights - we've tried everything. It isn't a problem of flashlights that work or don't, it's a problem of going through batteries and durability. In other words, I'm looking for something with a huge battery life, light weight and an excellent beam. LED always seemed attractive but like my original post said, I'm unsure.

    6. Re:Extended question... by MrIcee · · Score: 1

      Yes, we use similar equipment but it doesn't work will on the lava flow becuase we tend to look around us all the time to find the best paths... when we do that we end up blinding each other. When we turn our heads we don't want to have the light follow ;)

    7. Re:Extended question... by Pentagram · · Score: 1

      OK, but LEDs give a more diffuse light generally so it's harder to blind someone unless they're looking directly into the LEDs. Plus, your requirement was for duration, which caving lights are obviously designed for. But of course, I'm sure you have a better idea of what you want than I do...

    8. Re:Extended question... by travail_jgd · · Score: 1

      The LED museum has three flashlights that might seem to fit your needs. I don't own any of them, but they're the ones rated as brightest. The reviews are here, here, and here

    9. Re:Extended question... by MrIcee · · Score: 1

      wow those are expensive. they certainly look like they will do the trick but geeze, $200+ for some of those. egads ;)) I can buy alota mag lites for $200 :)

    10. Re:Extended question... by travail_jgd · · Score: 1

      I agree, they're defintely expensive. The LED industry is still young, and there are bound to be improvements in price and performance in the next few years.

      Still, I definitely like the Super-6. :)

    11. Re:Extended question... by fperez · · Score: 2, Informative

      Have you tried a Petzl Duo belt with the 5 LED module? That's my mountaineering light of choice for big things (I use a tikka for backup purposes). You can use the 5 LEDs on easier/safer terrain, and switch momentarily to the halogen beam when needed.

      The halogen beam is zoomable, so you can fit it to your needs. The 5 LEDs are reasonable for watching where you are going, but not for seeing far in front of you. Having the battery pack on your belt/pocket makes it very light on your head, and it's built like a tank. Keep in mind this thing is designed for serious mountaineering, where your headlamp can literally mean your life.

      I've been using Petzl headlamps for 12 years, and they've never let me down (I own 3 different ones). Petzl stuff is expensive, but it's the best gear in the world.

    12. Re:Extended question... by TFloore · · Score: 1

      How about some scuba diving lights? How much weight are you willing to deal with for this? And how much money are you willing to spend? And how long do you need it to last?

      Underwater Kinetics (UK) makes a Light Cannon that uses 8 C batteries, lasts about 3-4 hours burn time, and puts out 450 lumens. (Did I mention it's bright?) Uses a HID (high intensity discharge, basically a 15,000V voltage arc) bulb that lasts about 1000 hours. Fixed-focus reflector, but it comes with a wide-angle lens filter to spread the beam. This will set you back about $175.

      You can get the same thing, slightly brighter with a separate battery and light head from Dive Rite with a selection of battery choices. A HID light head (equivalent light output to a 50W halogen bulb) with a couple different battery options. These mostly use rechargable batteries (lead-acid, NiCD, or NiMH) and make a really nice light. Nice thing with these is that the light head has a simple hand mount with a power cord going back to the battery case, you point your hand where you want to see and stick the battery in your backpack. Can move the bulb in the reflector, to give a choice of spot or wide angle. Depending on the battery you select, you get from 2-6 hours burn time on a charge. Major down side is that these are kinda heavy. Oh, and kinda pricey, expect this to set you back about $600.

      But it's a beautiful light. :)

      And you already learned the benefits of rechargable batteries.

      Other downside with the HID bulbs is that they are, I'm told, fragile. I have one, and have not had any problems with it, but I also haven't dropped it off a table yet. And the replacement bulbs are pricey too.

      I dive with a Dive Rite MLS-1 with the H1 head. My last night dive, I complained I couldn't find my buddies because they all had these tiny little lights that disappeared in the beam from mine. They were all diving with standard xenon-bulb(?) 8 C Cell dive lights, which are generally considered bright primary lights. Okay, I was kidding, but the difference in light output was extremely noticable.

      Don't know how this compares to your current lights, but it might be something worth looking into.

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    13. Re:Extended question... by AttillaTheNun · · Score: 1

      Add me to that list. I like to stroll through minefields in my spare time and I'd hate to hit a trip-wire late at night. When I'm not playing Russian-Roulette on the minefields, I like to take nice romantic walks with my wife across the expressways here in Toronto. It sure would be nice to have a reliable flashlight so that we don't get throttled by a 200km/h transport truck. When that doesn't strike my fancy, I take joy in running around unlit parking lots with scissors. A good reliable flashlight would be a godsend!

    14. Re:Extended question... by MrIcee · · Score: 1

      hehehehehehehe... now now ;) There are things you can do in a lava field you can't do in a mine field, at least not easily, like cook chicken in lava. At least it's more fun :)

    15. Re:Extended question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      We use super bright flashlights so we can see distances as well as illuminate the area to find the best paths around obstacles. Since we're 20 miles from any services and any lights (hawaii is VERY dark at night) we often bring 3 or 4 flashlights and plenty of batteries.

      We prefer to use flashlights that have a fairly wide field so that it illuminates as much as possible in front of us (and a bit to the sides) without blinding others in the party.

      The Lightwave 4100 would seem to meet those criteria. At least in my experience, which is considerably less dangerous than yours! YMMY, no warrenty express or implied!
  23. Led Supply's 'EverLED' is pretty sweet. by myconid · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have a couple of the EVER-LED flashlight kits (I think LEDSupply.com is the only vendor so far). I bought them after seeing a friends blindingly small flashlight (a typical 2 aa shell) that he said lasted days. I have one in my car, which has been more than powerful enough to use at night to fix small problems with my car, yet small enough to get in tight places (try getting a D cell light in your engine bay to push a belt on!!). I have owned a couple other cheapy LED flashlights, but they seem to never be very impressive (light wise), and don't last very long. While they were rather expensive, I am *VERY* happy with my Everled flashlight. It doesn't ever seem to die (I left it on by accident all night and it is still working..). They are definately worth the extra money. My favorite part is that they are just so damn bright.

    They are easily as bright as the halogen head lamps that some people have (not car lights, the headmounted ones..).

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    1. Re:Led Supply's 'EverLED' is pretty sweet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok ok you guys got me! (sigh) Here I was going to start saving money and now I just gotta see what this everled thing is all about...thanks alot.

  24. Lightwave 4000 by sphealey · · Score: 1
    The Lightwave 4000 is great, but it needs a focusing lens. I wrote the manufacturer to tell them this but for some reason they haven't followed my advice ;-(

    sPh

  25. Cool LED flashlight mod... by kevin42 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you buy an extra LED flashlight and some ultra-violet LEDs on ebay, you can make a nice *very* bright portable blacklight cheap. Great for rockhounding in the desert, finding bark scorpions (they glow), etc...Just don't shine it in your eyes...

    1. Re:Cool LED flashlight mod... by Masada1212 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Damn, better be careful with that...easy to get eye damage with UV LEDs..

  26. What about bikers? by jonr · · Score: 1

    I ride a mountain bike, and I was wondering about those LED lights. Are they better than halogens? Brighter? Use less power?

    1. Re:What about bikers? by n1ywb · · Score: 1

      Well it depends :)

      LEDs CAN be far more efficient and produce light for a much longer time than halogens. The problem is that they need driver circuitry, specifically they need a constant current supply. This isn't that big a deal, the circuits are cheap and simple. The problem is that the cheapo lights usually don't use them. The higher end lights, like the EverLED bulb, usually do.

      Again it depends. The newer biking halogens are pretty darn bright. You would have to put several LEDs together to get the same brightness. However they would still be more efficient.

      Unfortunately I'm not familiar with the bike market. It does seem like a perfect application for LEDs.

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      -73, de n1ywb
      www.n1ywb.com
    2. Re:What about bikers? by cute-boy · · Score: 1
      I do a bit of night riding - off road racing - currently my lighting rig has a 10W halogen wide angle light, and a 20W spotlight.I do have a white LED front light, which is pretty bright, but it's not useful for illumination, just for making me visable to traffic when riding on the road at night. Problems: (a) batter life - even driven by sealed lead acid, you only get 1.5 hours from a reasonable sized battery, then you've got a to rechange. Not so useful for 24 hour races (ever been the the battery recharge tent for one of those?) and if you have an unexpecyed emergency. (b) battery size and weight - has to be attached to bike frame somehow (in water bottle cage, or, like me just use gaffer tape to frame). We pay lots of money for the latest lightweighy alloy componant, and then we add a kew kilos of lead.

      (b) gradually dims - better if you control light brightness with puslse mechanism, but ideally for night riding/racing, you want full beam headlights all the time.

      I've been wondering about getting on of these head fitting lights from Jaycar this year (not its in AU$, so it's cheap!).

      What I'd really like is something that floodlights the area in front of the bike equivalent to about 50Watts of halogen lighting, with a rechargeable battery life of 4 hours or so.

  27. WTF Is a "tactical light" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What in the flaming blue hell is a "tactical light" ? Is that the nouveau-riche term for "flashlight" or something even more expensive?

  28. Quite happy with this by oasamostexianu · · Score: 1

    I've got an EX40 from Tek Tite with 40 white LEDs. It works very well and is incredibly bright. The lady they have who takes orders by phone is also very nice. I'd definitely recommend this flashlight..

  29. LightWave 2100 - BAD by Yonder+Way · · Score: 3, Informative

    I bought the LightWave 2100 flashlight a couple of months back to keep in my 72 hour emergency kit. In a nutshell, I'm disappointed.

    Here are some of the things that bug me about it:

    * Light is blue, not white. I was expecting a crisp white light, not a dull blue one.
    * No reflector. The LED's are nested in a black plastic dish.
    * No lense. Not only can you not focus the beam, but the LED's themselves have no protection.

    Ultimately I didn't do my homework when I bought this thing. I hope there are some better ones out there that address some of the shortcomings that I mentioned.

  30. A few recommendations by chriso11 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I like the Inova x5 - it is small and exceptionally durable. Supposedly you can run it over with a car. They also have a steel version that you can run over with a tank (and it will still work). Perhaps if you are planning a trip to the middle east...
    Note that they use lithium batteries which have an long shelf life - so they are good to leave in the car. The downside is significantly more expensive replacement costs.

    I also have a turtlelite II. Also well made, but a different style. Plastic, light, and quite durable. Not as bright, but it uses AA batteries.

    Another flashlight was the LED-LENSER V2 Triplex. It is bright, small, and durable. But outclassed by the Inova x5 and turtlelite II.

    I also tried some of the adapters for maglights. I was not impressed - the output was significantly lower than the original incandescent bulb.

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    No, I don't trust in god. He'll have to pay up front, like everybody else.
  31. What I am looking for... by chriso11 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I would like to get an LED flashlight that has both a bright white led and also a red led to keep night vision. Has anyone seen one like that?

    --
    No, I don't trust in god. He'll have to pay up front, like everybody else.
    1. Re:What I am looking for... by n1ywb · · Score: 1

      The EverLED comes in both white and red, although not in the same bulb.

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      -73, de n1ywb
      www.n1ywb.com
    2. Re:What I am looking for... by mph · · Score: 1
      I would like to get an LED flashlight that has both a bright white led and also a red led to keep night vision. Has anyone seen one like that?
      Yes. One of the night assistants at Palomar Observatory has one. It looked pretty spiffy to me. Sorry, I don't know where it came from, but you might start with companies that sell to amateur astronomers.
    3. Re:What I am looking for... by uwo · · Score: 1

      What you need is an astronomer's flashlight. Some models have red, for preserving night vision, and white for setup, and regular use. Search for the Rigel Skylite at Anacortes (http://www.buytelescopes.com) or the Orion DualBeam at Orion Telescopes (http://www.telescope.com) just to name two.

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      -- "Design is an act of optimism." Bill Stumpf
    4. Re:What I am looking for... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the Photon Fusion headlamp is what you want. Check http://www.brightguy.com

  32. Shameless EverLED promotion by n1ywb · · Score: 2, Informative
    As a distributor for the EverLED, I am a bit biased. But please allow me to briefly sum up why I think the EverLED really is the best LED flashlight solution on the market today.

    Most LED flashlights currently on the market suffer from one or more of these shortcomings
    1. Relatively poor battery life. Most cheapo LED flashlights just use a resistor to limit the current to the LED. This makes the LED only slightly more efficient than an ordinary bulb, and as the battery voltage drops the current to the LED also drops, causing the LED to dim long before the batteries are really dead.
    2. Lack of, or fixed focus/reflector. Most LED flashlights use the optical characteristics of the LED itself to focus the beam. You're stuck with whatever beamwidth the LEDs happen to be, which can be anywhere from 100 degrees to 10 degrees.
    3. Poor design/construction. Most LED flashlights are cheapo plastic. Even the well constructed ones often have design flaws, like the one mentioned earlier that requires a jewelers screwdriver to change the batteries. They might be fine for recreational use, but if lives are on the line, forget it.
    4. Not very bright. Some of the multi-LED array flashlights solve this problem, but in general the small T1-3/4 LEDs used in most flashlights are not exactly the brightest around.

    The EverLED addresses all of these issues.
    1. The EverLED bulb houses an efficient regulated driver circuit, which maintains a near constant current to the LED until the batteries are almost dead, then slowly cuts back so that the light dims gradually, but never totally shuts off. This way you have some warning that your batteries are dead, and even dead batteries will produce some light. See this graph.
    2. The EverLED uses a "side emitter" LED. Instead of a lens, like normal LEDs, the LED used in the EverLED uses a prism to direct the light out the sides in a toroidal pattern. The flashlight's existing reflector is used to focus the beam. If your flashlight features an adjustable reflector, such as the Maglight, you can retain it's use.
    3. The EverLED itself is housed in machined brass and potted in epoxy, so it's probably stronger than it needs to be. It will happily work inside almost any industrial strength flashlight.
    4. The EverLED uses a 1 watt LED. It's up to 10 times brighter than other LEDs, and up to 4 times brighter than a typical krypton flashlight bulb.

    So for the reasons above, plus the fact that the EverLED works with any size flashlight from 1 to 6 cells, pretty much makes it the best LED flashlight solution going. Nobody will touch you with a 6 cell LED Maglight. That's just my $.02
    --
    -73, de n1ywb
    www.n1ywb.com
    1. Re:Shameless EverLED promotion by Bodhammer · · Score: 1
      Sounds great, I was ready to order one for my 6 D-Cell Mag-Lite atitude-adjuster/flashlight right up to the point where it said $39.95.

      Proud of it are we? Try $9.95 and you might sell a few...

      --
      "I say we take off, nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."
    2. Re:Shameless EverLED promotion by Masada1212 · · Score: 1

      $9.95? Are you nuts?? With a 1watt LED and it works in any flashlight??? Jesus man, the frickin 1watt LED costs $10 alone...

    3. Re:Shameless EverLED promotion by buttahead · · Score: 1

      then try $15.

    4. Re:Shameless EverLED promotion by Masada1212 · · Score: 1

      Yeah and fully loaded PDAs should be $25

    5. Re:Shameless EverLED promotion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So how long does it last compared to the standard bulb that comes in a mini-maglite? Both battery life and bulb life.

    6. Re:Shameless EverLED promotion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Two words: early adopters.

      Give it a year. the price will drop.

  33. Inova X5 Tactical Floodlight by Gulthek · · Score: 1

    It's waterproof, made of aircraft aluminum, visible from 2 miles away, and casts a beam that's brighter than my maglite.

    Check it out here.

  34. No reflector necessary by Alereon · · Score: 1

    LEDs don't need a reflector. Unlike incandescent bulbs, there's no spillover from the sides, thus nothing for the reflector to reflect. Light pretty much goes where the LED is aimed.

  35. American Science and Surpuls... by Cyno01 · · Score: 1

    Greatest store ever... i found these little babys there. It says they're not the brightest ever, but they light up a room pretty well. I have 7 of them, one of each color(they had green and purple at the store, but not online) and an extra blue one on my keychain. The rubber button is great because if you push it down all the way you can jam it under the casing and the light stays on. About once a week i find the one on my keychain jammed on in my pocket, but its still birght as ever. The last one broke(the keyring clip) before i noticed any decrease in brightness.

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    "Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
  36. Arc Flashlights by itsme1234 · · Score: 1

    I wonder why nobody mentioned arc flashlights

    www.arcflashlight.com

    The ARC AAA uses one AAA (surprize) and it will be BRIGHT for many hours (it's semiregulated). You can read or hike or do anything at night with one VERY small light (smaller than Mag$ Solitare). Just visit the web site and you'll see what I mean. The small light is of course waterproof; and the head is totally sealed; you can take the light apart under water without any problems. This small light has been freezed inside an ice cube, boiled in oil and run over by SUVs. Did I mentioned it's HA (hard anodized) III. If you wonder why HA III is important just look at your Mag$ Solitare (regular HA) and you'll see what I mean.
    By the way, Mag$'s does not qualify (IMHO) as "high quality existing flashlight". Maybe they were, 30 years ago. Maybe they still are compared to 1.99$ lights from department store. But for example a Princeton Tec 40 (around 12-25 $) will be smaller (fits in a pocket) and about 60 g (!). With batteries (standard 4xAA) will be around 130g. And will have a nice white output (no rings). In a 3D Mag$ you'll find: ringy, yelowish output (and less brightness), about 460 g dead weight + 400-450 g for batteries. Oh, and the Princeton Tec is waterproof to 2000 ft (yes 2 and three 0) while mag will be flooded if you try to see how it's working in the pool.

  37. If you want bright by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No other LEDs can come close to the Luxeons in brightness. Seriously, these things are probably 10 times as bright as the next LED. I have been planning to make my own flashlight out of a Luxeon 1W and a mini maglite case along with a driver circuit. Recently Luxeon released a 5W version that is blinding to look at. You won't believe these things until you see them. Search on ebay for Luxeon, from there you can buy the parts to build your own or buy a prebuilt flashlight.

  38. the best flashlight: a headlamp by tobyvoss · · Score: 1

    this is simply the best! leaves both hands free, always shines where you're looking. can be worn above a baseball-cap to reduce glare.
    i use a BLACK DIAMOND headlamp. it is light, nicely balanced (batteries in back) and works for a long time (about 70h with 3 aaa cells)!

  39. My LED Flashlight by divide+overflow · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have three LED flashlights. My first was an Arc AAA flashlight. It uses a Nichia white LED, a DC-DC converter, and a single AAA cell. You twist the head of the flashlight to turn it on and off. It is very small, only a bit bigger than the AAA battery, but gives quite a bit of light and has a great runtime of approximately 5 hours on an alkaline cell. It's terrific.

    My second LED light is an Arc LS LED flashlight. It features a white Luxeon Star 1 watt LED, a DC-DC current regulator, and runs on a lithium 123 cell. It has a hard anodized finish that is extremely durable. It is only 2 3/8" long and is just under an inch in diameter. It has a very bright bluish-white light. It is very easy to carry in your pocket and I find myself using it daily. I bought it as a factory second directly from Arc. I highly recommend this flashlight. Arc sells their flashlights through distributors and from their own webpage at http://store.yahoo.com/flashlight/.

    My last LED light is an Electro Lumens Blaster II. It also features a white Luxeon Star 1 watt LED, but has a large aluminum body that holds three 1.5 volt D cells. This light is very bright and will run at nearly full brightness for about 24 hours, and at reduced brightness for another 48 hours. It is a very cool flashlight. You can find them for sale at http://www.elektrolumens.com/4_SALE/For_Sale.html

  40. I use my cellphone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I just use my reliable samsung iglo cellphone [samsung.co.za] -- its backlight is bright as hell at night! Just check out this review!

    Even with the ringer on silent, the alarm wakes me up when the backlight kicks in! must have 6 LEDs in it.

    Did I mention its BLUE?! Thats right kiddies -- makes for nice ambient lighting. Now if I could just string a few of these in the house, I could remote-activate room-lighting by calling each phone!

  41. I use my cellphone .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    ... as an LED flashlight. Not any ordinary cellphone either, the Samsung iGlo has an extrordinarily bright blue back-light that it borders on being contraversial! Just check out the reviews here


    Heck, I use it to see my way in the dark at night, to alert my buddies to my location at the local watering hole, to annoy my sleeping flatmate when she's sleeping, and for just some cool blue ambient room-lighting.


    heck, I even use its blue light to wakeup early when -- set the alarm and put the phone in silent mode; when the alarm goes off the backlight kicks in and *ta0dah!* instant timed lighting!

  42. Sucky switches, plus my coattail pick... by jolshefsky · · Score: 3, Informative
    I've got a triad of those, but the squeeze switches tend to go bad and you end up needing too much force to get them to go on.

    While I'm here riding on the coattails of a +5 ... my pick is the Princeton Tec Aurora headband light. Three LED's, three brightness settings, useless blink settings, comfortable headband, and the lamp tilts away from the headband. The absolute best for doing work with line-of-sight light hands-free.

    --
    --- Jason Olshefsky

    Karma: Poser (mostly affected by adding this line long after everyone else did)

  43. Why still specialty items?/Fake "LED flashlights" by dpbsmith · · Score: 1

    What I can't figure out is... why are they still specialty items? Why do you only see them in yuppie camping boutiques or boating accessories stores?

    The other day I was in the supermarket and saw a big display of flashlights from some familiar mass-market name... I'm afraid I forget which one... that said "LED!" on the package in big letters.

    It was a traditional flashlight with a regular incandescent bulb--and a flashing red LED on it, allegedly so you could find it easily in the dark. Why? WHY?

  44. Re:Why still specialty items?/Fake "LED flashlight by n1ywb · · Score: 1

    Why does MS sell wireless keyboard for over $100 by marketing them as BLUETOOTH?

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    -73, de n1ywb
    www.n1ywb.com
  45. My favorite is the Princeton Tec Attitude Light by zbattery · · Score: 1

    My favorite is the Princeton Tec Attitude Light. We sell them along with a large selection of other LED's.

    Because we sell LED flashlights I'm pretty familiar with what is popular among our customers. The time-tested favorite seems to be the Streamlight Stylus penlight.

    A great resource for reading about the differences between a lot of LED's is Brock's LED Page.

    Bryan Noonan
    Zbattery.com
    800-624-8681

  46. lightwave and arcflashlight! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just wanted to throw my 2 cents in. The biggest lightwave (the hefty one with 3 d batteries) is just amazing. To respond to earlier comments: YES the light is bluish, the color index of the "white" led's is still not great due to the use of a blue GaN led + a yellow phosphor. Some of the blue light sneaks out and is visible but it is not so bad that you can't see reasonably faithful colors of objects. Also, someone objected to the lack of a reflector. It doesn't need one since the angular intensity distribution of the led's is quite narrow in the forward direction. A reflective cup wouldn't really send much more light out... FINALLY- the thing is ridiculously bright. I mean I can just point it at the ceiling of a 15x15 foot room that is pitch black and it is like I turned on a chandelier.

    For a flashlight to keep with you at all times the arcflashlight is great. It is intensely bright and the body is machined out of basically 1 piece of solid anodized aluminum so it is quite durable.

    Go take a look at the 5W luxeon led's at www.lumileds.com to see what I dream about in my
    next flashlight (powered by a serious LiIon battery of the laptop variety....

  47. Depends on what size and brightness you want.. by spinkham · · Score: 1

    I have a CMG infinity with red led. It's a small, sturdy metal light that takes one AA battery and gives 40 hours of full brightness light, then another 30 or so of slowly dimming light. I use mine for general use and astronomy, and love it. It can take a beating, runs all year of heavy use on like a 4 pack of AA batteries. There's now an ultra version out with twice the brightness and half the battery life. See it here: http://www.theledlight.com/infinity.html Review here: http://ledmuseum.home.att.net/inf1.htm

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    Blessed are the pessimists, for they have made backups.
  48. The EverLED uses a Luxeon...no need to "build" one by Masada1212 · · Score: 1

    the EverLED uses the Luxeon..it isa already a drop in bulb that will work with any flashlight.

  49. Blue Vs. White LEDs by peel · · Score: 1

    I also have the Inova X5 Tactical flashlight that's already been mentioned and and love everything about it...except the blue light just doesn't really do it for me. Apparently it comes in both blue and white configurations (maybe green too), but I have only ever been able to find blue. While I'm sure all the arguments about blue light at night being better than white are true, I find that it is not totally useful at night for all situations. Maybe it's just that our eyes have been trained to white light but I sometimes find it harder to see things at night with the light than without it. Using a regular white flashlight solves the problem. Other than that most of it's other claims appear true; It has been dropped, kicked, thrown, left in a pitcher of beer for over 10 minutes, and flashed from at least 1000 ft. away (Obviously this is not 2 miles but from this short distance it was still somewhat blinding) Anyway just my thoughts. -peel

    1. Re:Blue Vs. White LEDs by Dielectric · · Score: 1

      Blue light is pretty crappy for illumination in almost every situation. The wavelength is too short for our eyes to pick up properly.

      Quick experiment: Drive down the street and find a blue lighted sign and a red lighted sign. Best if they are both letters. The blue will appear fuzzier and will probably be hard to focus on. The red is going to be pretty good.

      All those crazy kids putting blue lights in their cars are morons. Driving lights should be white, fog lamps should be yellow-ish. None of that blue crap. Yes, it may look cool, but it's worthless.

  50. How about 110v Light Bulb Replacements? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What I really want is to never have to change another light bulb in my house, and get full spectrum lighting.

    Any full spectrum LED light bulb replacements for 110v in houses?

    1. Re:How about 110v Light Bulb Replacements? by n1ywb · · Score: 2, Informative

      "Full spectrum" lighting is a scam. See FAQ about Lighting, Mood, and Performance.

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  51. Photon Mini by bucklesl · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have purchased both the Photon II and Photon III keychain LED lights. They are quite bright for being so small, but I would not buy the "III" model again since it has all these annoying light modes, which are a pain when you just want to turn it off and on.

    These are the only LED flashlights that I've used.

    However, when you want a real flashlight, pony up and buy a SureFire rechargable. You will not be disappointed.

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    help fill in hidden movie endings @ End of the Credits
  52. Arc flashlights by ecloud · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I have a couple of these, and have given them to all my friends and some of the family. (Disclaimer: the owner is an old friend and gave me a nice discount) They're wonderful! So tiny, so bright, so rugged, and run for hours and hours on one AAA battery. The secret is the tiny built-in DC-DC converter which extracts every last electron out of the battery while stepping it up to a constant current for the LED. The electronics are encapsulated, and the battery chamber is sealed, so it's even waterproof. Really, I think this is the most elegant design possible. Most others require special batteries, or have worse performance, or are excessively complex or fragile. One of mine has been on my keyring in my pocket for a couple of years. It's really scuffed up, but works like new and is only on its second battery, despite the fact that I find a use for it every few days, and can't imagine what I ever did without always having a flashlight at the ready.

    Only cons are that they're overpriced, and well, the case could've been titanium rather than aluminum. But still there is no competition, yet.

    See also the high-brightness Luxeon Star model; but those are beyond what most can afford, and then you have to pay extra to get the AA battery chamber.

    The next thing I want to see is a retrofit for my 3-D-cell Maglights, which I still use when a penlight isn't enough.

  53. EverLED Testimonials by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Testimonials My two EverLEDs arrived today! One white, one cyan/teal. I am in process in trying them in various flashlites, and so far have been quite impressed. Even in a very cheap 2C Lumilite K-2C, it is impressive and puts the PR-2 incandescent to shame. The white is one of teh whitest LED light sources I have ever seen, no pukey dogpee green, no purple or blue hot spots, all white, no BS... it is as pure clean white as it comes. The Cyan is also impressive. Couldn't be simpler, just replace teh PR2 glass thingie with the EverLed and you have light! The EverLEd doesn't get too hot, after a 20 minute run, it was warm but not hot. And this in an el-cheapo plastic $2 flashlight. Looks like you have a home run with this product! /ed in NH I have a couple of the EVER-LED flashlight kits (I think LEDSupply.com is the only vendor so far). I bought them after seeing a friends blindingly small flashlight (a typical 2 aa shell) that he said lasted days. I have one in my car, which has been more than powerful enough to use at night to fix small problems with my car, yet small enough to get in tight places (try getting a D cell light in your engine bay to push a belt on!!). I have owned a couple other cheapy LED flashlights, but they seem to never be very impressive (light wise), and don't last very long. While they were rather expensive, I am *VERY* happy with my Everled flashlight. It doesn't ever seem to die (I left it on by accident all night and it is still working..). They are definately worth the extra money. My favorite part is that they are just so damn bright. They are easily as bright as the halogen head lamps that some people have (not car lights, the headmounted ones..). -S.B. Just got mine about half an hour ago and they are "The Bomb" They actually came in a box, not a baggy in an envelope. Once in the box what should to my wondering eyes appear, faceted lucite jewelry cases holding the gems. I ordered and received two white and one teal. I can not imagine the teal color being any prettier than the color of this led. I've had an old Lumilite K-2AA laying around in a drawer for ther longest time. As luck would have it this light is trimmed out in Teal. My teal lamp has a home. Output of the white Everled totally blows away a pr2 and is equal to or better than a mag 3c I have with a halogen lamp in it. The color of the white Everled is white. No green, no blue and no yellow streaks. Anyone that charges extra for a specially selected "White" Luxeon needs a lesson in how to purchase these lamps. Reflector performance in the Mag is best when in spot. At wide angle center is very dark. The performance of the teal Everled in the fixed reflector 2AA is nothing short of spectacular. Bright at the center with with very little sidespill. ...If they come out with a boxed set I plan on being one of the first to have it. Anon Bottom line at this point would be best quoting Lesly Snypes in Demolition Man "... I like it. I like it a lot!" -Anon Greetings: Today I received my order for a Cyan EverLed bulb. "ITS BRIGHT BABY!" I tested it in a 2 cell and in a four cell flashlight. It has exceeded my expectations for its performance. -JR

  54. The Ultimate Light by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.hdssystems.com/Products.htm

  55. What about this one! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.starkelectronic.com/nightst.htm

  56. Petzl Tikka by mysterious_mark · · Score: 1

    Its rad a rad headlamp, weighs nothing, runs 10+ hours on 2 AAA's, perfect for, fixing 'puters, cars, parties, night climbing, cycling, camping etc, I swear by mine, got everyone in my family one for X-mas. No one should be without one of these SRP $30 (not a paid endorsment). MM

  57. Dive Lites by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 1

    The only thing to be careful with if you go for diving lights is some of them don't like being used in air; not enough cooling.

    My recommendation for the type of hiking they are doing is multiple sources of light so you get shadows... a petzel and a torch.

    1. Re:Dive Lites by TFloore · · Score: 1
      The only thing to be careful with if you go for diving lights is some of them don't like being used in air; not enough cooling.

      Yes, that's one reason I like the HID bulbs instead of the "standard" cave-diver 50W halogen bulbs. The HID bulbs dissipate a lot less heat, and, from a heat perspective, have no problem being used out of the water.

      That said, the HIDs do put out a lot of UV light, and it is recommended that you not look directly at the bulb for long periods of time when it is out of the water. Underwater, it isn't an issue, as water absorbs the UV over a very short distance.

      Don't really disagree with your comment of multiple lights, though. But he's already said he doesn't want head-mounted, and he probably wants one hand free for other things, so he's limited himself to only 1 (active) light at a time. Which is another reason I like the hand mount for the DiveRite, it puts the light on the *back* of your hand, with a strap going around your hand to hold it in place. So you can still use your fingers and palm for gripping and holding things.
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  58. Photon Micro-Light by segfaultdot · · Score: 1

    I always have my green photon 3 microlight on my keychain. Fairly bright, the batteries last a fairly long time. Was very useful in my last job as a support tech, when opening up computers and installing nics and such. It has 3 levels of brightness, 3 levels of flash (i wouldn't call it strobe, the duration of each flash is too long for a decent stroboscopic effect), and an auto-shutoff mode where it flashes for a couple seconds, gives you a minute of light, flashes for a couple seconds again and then shuts itself off. The back button is a little hard to push, but not too bad. The front button just turns on the light for as long as you hold it down (like the button on the photon 1). Also check out the Rav'n light for some neat effects. Don't have one, but i've seen pictures of it.

    Their website has fairly accurate information, and their description of the colors are accurate. Remember that while there is a white available, it isn't as bright as colored LEDS.

  59. Linux FreeSWAN Photon Microlight, of course! by billstewart · · Score: 1
    FreeS/WAN is the Linux free IPSEC implementation being developed outside the US by a group funded by John Gilmore, which is not only open-source, but isn't restricted by the US export regulations on crypto. (The regulations were relaxed a couple of years ago, largely due to EFF-related lawsuits, development like FreeS/WAN and Mozilla, and the needs of commercial business, but the Feds periodically threaten to tighten or reinstate them again.)

    So Gilmore and his crew have been giving out lights for a couple of years that with stickers saying "Linux Freeswan.org" on them, originally in colors and later in white LED when that came out. By now they'd like you to buy your own Photon lights (:-), but in the crypto-geek community they're fairly common keychain accessories. Aside from using them as blinky-light toys, I've found them useful for looking inside and under things, repairing cars in the dark, etc., and the keychain size means I've always got one with me.

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    Bill Stewart
    New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
  60. Re:Why still specialty items?/Fake "LED flashlight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because the keyboard uses bluetooth to communicate with the reciever. The flashlights he mentions don't use LED to do what they are designed for. They use LED as an add on.

  61. WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WTF are you talking about ...I *own* a NightOwl monocular, and NightOwl Optics (www.nightowloptics.com) lists no 'squeeze' piezoelectric nightvision model(s) on its website, so I can only assume that you have indeed been partaking of the 'maui wowi' (the herb, not the smoothie), on your midnight treks.
    Watch out for those crevases, duuuude!

    1. Re:WTF? by MrIcee · · Score: 1

      WHOOPS... I didn't mean nightowl - I meant STARGATE-M. My night owl was my earlier scope that got stolen. Sorry.

  62. dual light source by Macgyver7017 · · Score: 1

    there are a few models out there that actually have both an LED and regular bulb. as a member of a search and rescue team i need less light and more battery life about 80% of the time, and the other 20% of the time i want a very bright light. switching to a differnet light or carrying two is not a practical option. petzl makes a model called the "duo", black diamond makes one called "gemini". both of these have served me and my coworkers very well, even after being subjected to some serious abuse. not only do you get the best of both worlds, but if either the LED or bulb side of the light dies, you still have a working flashlight. Jon Sullivan

  63. Princeton Tec Impact by N8F8 · · Score: 1
    I've had it about four months. Havn't had to change the btteries yet. Kids keep stealing it and playing around.

    Good place to buy LED flashlights: Botach Tactical

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  64. Led Lenser V9 Micro-Lenser by danimrich · · Score: 1

    I can recommend the Led-Lenser V9 Micro-Lenser because of its light-output per volume. It is the ideal keychain flashlight and can be ordered from Conrad Electronics for about 15 Euros or Dollars.

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  65. I made my own - but for special needs... by porkchop_d_clown · · Score: 1

    I went to Radio Shack, bought a pack of "Jumbo Red" LEDs, along with some resistors, went to the dollar store and bought a couple AA flashlights, threw out the bulbs and replaced them with the LEDs.


    Why? Because you don't want a bright white light at a telescope at night, but red LEDs are perfect - they illuminate the scene without ruining your night vision.

  66. Inova titanium 5 led by lbonser · · Score: 1

    I've got two; one black, one gunmetal. One's on my belt, the other's in the car.

    1. Re:Inova titanium 5 led by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have one of these also. The blue light takes a little getting used to, but is a nice change of pace from "old yeller".

      Everyone I show it to says "Cool, where did you get this?" immediately after turning it on.

  67. Conversion fun by LogicFlow · · Score: 1

    Anyone know how these two stack up againsed eachother?
    MagmaLED
    and
    NewBeam
    Is bigger/more == better in this case? They both look sexy...
    Going with an EverLED for my club. Eer, 6-D Mag. (ya sold me n1ywb).
    Oh, and what of my poor little Maglite Solitaire? Or is there just too little room?
    Obviously, I *really* like Mag, but that Arc AAA is looking like it's worth a shot if not.

  68. I built my own! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, I use it for a booklight actually. But I built my own super-bright-LED booklight. An LED generally draws about 10-15mA. I built a little 10mA constant-current source that will drive a super-bright-white LED off a 9V battery until that battery's drained to about 5V (at which point the current source gets less "constant", and the light starts to dim). Most 9V batteries are rated at about 500mAh, so that should be about 50h of continuous use - or maybe longer, since the battery ratings don't generally discharge them that low. Of course, if you add more LEDs, you reduce the battery life accordingly.

  69. In the Military by ChesireKat · · Score: 0

    When i train, for the Air Force Auxillary, we use brinkman LED flashlights. Why? they last 1,000 years, first off. Also, they have an optional "flash" where we can use morse code with them. They are small, portable and powerful. They are also cheap. One of he nicest things about it is that it also has red, blue, green and orange covers to go over the Flashlight. Red: So it does affect your eyes, easier to adjust in teh night if you have to turn it off quickly and run like hell. Also is easier on other people's eyes. Orange: if you need to get noticed the orange-yellow light helps. Green: if your in the woods the green light is the least noticed. Blue: hmm- i have no clue what the hell the blue is for, we never have used it.... The Brinkmann flashlight goes for like 16 dollars or some cheap thing it also hooks onto your belt easily with its strap :) its very light, too. :D

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    ~Just keep eating, porky. Fat people are harder to kidnap.
  70. Dorcy LED's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just got a Dorcy model 41-2750 Aluminum LED, which is similar to a 'shorty' D-cell MagLight, except the Dorcy uses 4-AA's, and purportedly lasts for 200 hours per set of batteries.
    It is a single LED light, with an adjustable beam, (ala MagLight) and 'loves' rechargable Nickle Metel Hydride batteries, which produce a more LED friendly current.
    I'm impressed.

    By the way, Dorcy appears to be the supplier of the 'rebadged' LEDCorp branded models.

  71. Re:Why still specialty items?/Fake "LED flashlight by n1ywb · · Score: 1

    My point was that the fact that they keyboard uses bluetooth offers absolutely no advantage to the customer vs. other wireless keyboards. Bluetooth was supposed to standardize wireless peripherals and thus make them cheaper, yet the MS bluetooth keyboard is 2x as much as an equivilent logitech non-bluetooth keyboard. The ONLY possible advantage I can see is that if your computer already has bluetooth built in, you don't need to use the included MS receiver, but I don't know if it even can work with generic bluetooth receivers. Maybe range is better but seriously how far away from your computer are you going to try and use your keyboard? Anyway this is pretty offtopic so I'm finished.

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    -73, de n1ywb
    www.n1ywb.com
  72. Wow, that's smart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I keep getting spam advertising "SEX!"

    So, I won't be reproducing.

  73. LUXEON!!! by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 1

    Luxeon Star-based flashlights (as mentioned earlier) are *amazing*. 1 watt and 5 watt Luxeons are available (although 5W whites are rare, but getting more common.) The 1W units are used in a number of lights such as the Arc LS (Expensive, but excellent) and the CMG Reactor (Don't get it, worst LS light out there). Another person mentioned EL's Blaster series, which are good lights. Also there's plenty of info on the forums linked from the article (candlepowerforums) on converting a 2D or 3D Maglight into a resistored LS light.

    For small and relatively cheap, register on the forums and investigate the BadBoy and MadMax drop-ins for MiniMags. These "pills" replace the bulb in your minimag and include a 1W Luxeon on a DC/DC step-up converter. The MadMax is constant-voltage, the BB constant-current (the latter is the best way to drive an LED if you want consistent brightness.) They are both BRIGHT. My BadBoy 400 can tangle with a 2D Maglight and win, with a much whiter and smoother beam.

    If you order a BadBoy, I suggest trying the McFlood optics, also from dat2zip's site. They give a nice smooth flood beam. For an intermediate beam, I have a 22.5mm diameter DCX lens from www.anchoroptical.com mounted in a MiniMag accessory holder in front of the McFlood, for a "tight flood" beam.

    Nice thing about these "pills" is that if the body gets scuffed up, replacement bodies are only $7-8 each at any local store.

    Unfortunately McLuxes are no longer in production - At $120 or so per light, these were quite expensive but they were VERY solidly built with an excellent design, and they were also one of the smallest LS lights out there.

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    retrorocket.o not found, launch anyway?
    1. Re:LUXEON!!! by n1ywb · · Score: 1

      Hey don't forget the EverLED! It uses a 1 watt luxeon star side-emitter, which works with your flashlight's existing focusing reflector.

      The trouble with the 5 watt luxeons is that they make so much heat, it's difficult to dissipate it fast enough inside of a flashlight. Something like a maglight with a lot of metal is okay, but put it in a plastic housing and run it at full tilt and it will probably melt.

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      -73, de n1ywb
      www.n1ywb.com
  74. ARGH. by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 1

    Where's the "I forgot something" button.

    The Arc AAA is an excellent light for those looking for something smaller (and less bright) than the Luxeon.

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    retrorocket.o not found, launch anyway?
  75. Wow by _Spirit · · Score: 1

    I didn't think ppl made those butt-ugly webpages anymore.

    The content might be just fine, it's just a little hard on the eyes. These pages should have a tag.

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    beauty is only a light switch away

  76. LED Flashlight without batteries, shake to use by aim4min · · Score: 1

    I came accross this site that claims it has the "Forever Flashlight." You can power it by shaking it for a few seconds. This could come in handy if there is ever a nuclear apocolypse or you just don't like buying batteries. Find out more at http://www.foreverflashlight.com/ I personally can't vouch for it, but I'm thinking about trying it out!

    1. Re:LED Flashlight without batteries, shake to use by n1ywb_mobile · · Score: 1
      I came accross this site that claims it has the "Forever Flashlight." You can power it by shaking it for a few seconds.
      Its true, its for real, but think about it... Your flashlight doesnt work unless you shake it all the damn time. Yeah in extreme circumstances not needing batteries is pretty big plus. But if you're trying to change your tire or check your property for Iraqis, you probably don't want a flashlight that requires frequent shaking.
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      -73, de n1ywb
  77. Streamlight Stylus 3 by Matrix2110 · · Score: 1

    Size of a typical pen, uses 3 AAAA batts, made from aircraft aluminum. Fits right in my pocket. I use it every day, change the batts. every 4 months or so.

    A friend gave it to me as a present a year and a half or so ago. Best damned flashlight I ever owned. Cracked the LED about 3 months ago, 1 drop of superglue fixed it. (of course the beam scatter is not as even as when brand new, but I can and do live with it) I highly recommend Streamlight products.