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WWDC 2003: Change of Date And Location

no_demons writes "Looks like this years Apple World Wide Developers Conference has had a change of date and location. The event will now take place from June 23rd to June 27th in San Francisco. Apple will also unveil details of Panther at the event."

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  1. 10.3 survey: by Bizzarobot · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Free or paid upgrade?

    1. Re:10.3 survey: by Draoi · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Paid upgrade, I'm guessing. All the other minor numbers 10.1, 10.2 were ... There are supposed to be a *lot* of changes going into Panther, so it should be well worth it.

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    2. Re:10.3 survey: by derch · · Score: 4, Informative

      The 10.1 upgrade was free from Apple stores and resellers or $20 for shipping and handling. Here.

      Macslash's article on the 10.2 pricing outrage had anecdotal posts saying that Apple typically charges for every other upgrade.

    3. Re:10.3 survey: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
      In favour of free:
      In recent history apple has done one payed upgrade... one free...
      • 8.0 payed, 8.1 free
      • 8.5 payed, 8.6 free
      • 9.0 payed, 9.1 - 9.2 free
      • 10.0 payed, 10.1 free
      • 10.2 payed, 10.3???????????

      In favour of payed:
      Theres supposed to be some really funky new things in 10.3 - including a fully integrated X11 server, yay, double clickable X11 apps at last :D

      Bob

  2. WWDC Instead of Macworld? by Michael_Burton · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This change seems to raise the profile of WWDC, probably at the expense of the New York/Boston summer Macworld Expo, which Apple had previously declared it would not attend.

    Maybe Apple is trying to increase the visibility of its outreach to the geek community. I certainly hope this doesn't mean that WWDC is becoming just another trade show.

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    1. Re:WWDC Instead of Macworld? by BigBir3d · · Score: 2, Insightful

      WWDC is the target audience for a OS upgrade from 10.2.x to 10.3 ->> Developers are the ones that want/need it the most anyway.

      Apple should be doing things on their own schedule, not some other company's (expo). This would avoid the embarrasment of anouncing hardware for sale that they can't ship for months; which has happened for everything so far this year.

  3. Old Panther Link by Oculus+Habent · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Panther link is a story about 10.2 from August 2002. No details whatsoever. I suppose I'l actually have to go and look for details now. :)

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    1. Re:Old Panther Link by Drakonian · · Score: 3, Informative

      I think they linked to the wrong one. Here is today's eWeek story that says the explicit reason they are pushing back WWDC is to announce Panther.

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  4. They just made WWDC more expensive... by Chief+Typist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wonder how many people besides me are cursing right now because they have non-refundable airfares for the week of May 18th.

    We'll probably get nailed for changing the hotel, too.

    This sucks.

    1. Re:They just made WWDC more expensive... by kwerle · · Score: 2, Informative

      Here is the reality: flying into San Jose is a HELL of a lot cheaper than flying into SFO. Dunno about the hotel room, but think of the 100-200$ your saving as you're riding the train from San Jose to San Fran...

      (I commute out of SFO every other week, and it pisses me off every time)

    2. Re:They just made WWDC more expensive... by dhovis · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sometimes you can get the airlines to let you change those "non-refundable" fares if you give them enough evidence that your reason for changing was beyond your control.

      I've heard the thing to do is to go to the airport, so you can talk to an actual human being face to face. Explain that you booked a flight to go to this conference, the conference got pushed back a month, and you'd like to reschedule your flight so that you can attend the rescheduled conference. Have printed documentation of what happened. If you can convince them that this was something you couldn't forsee, they willl often give you a break. Don't try this over a phone call, though. It won't work.

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    3. Re:They just made WWDC more expensive... by oscarmv · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you're coming from abroad, there is no real option to fly to San Jose cheaply. Not like I didn't lose my non-refundable ticket anyway...

  5. Better song, anyway... by dpbsmith · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...in the past, whenever I've gone to WWDC I've been tortured by the catchy, bouncy, wistful David/Bacharach tune "Do You Know the Way to San Jose." It starts running through my head about the time I sign up and doesn't stop until I get home again.

    I'd MUCH rather hear Scott McKenzie crooning about gentle people with flowers in their hair.

  6. new apple hardware? by elohim · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is purely speculation based on a few rumor sites (e.g. macrumors.com, macwhispers.com), but I'm hoping this delay might reflect the introduction of Panther as the first 64 bit MacOS, along with the introduction of 64 bit hardware (Power 970 based) for developer use. I can dream, can't I? :D The time frame seems plausible if you assume the rumor sites have accurate information.

  7. Opinions... by Mister+Black · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Is moving the WWDC back a sign of Panther slipping or is it a sign of progress being better than expected?

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    1. Re:Opinions... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think they're padding time so Gore can invent fire.

    2. Re:Opinions... by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 3, Funny
      You are standing in an open field west of a white house, with a boarded front door. There is a small mailbox here.

      open mailbox

  8. Change good for Students by codeonezero · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is great.

    Back in 1998 I got a Student WWDC pass but, because the WWDC was the week of finals I had no hope of getting there.

    If this change continues in later years I think it might be a big boost to more student participation at the WWDC (who will mostly be off in June i think, or at least not have finals around that time), which will probably be good long term for Apple's Developer Community.

    I can't wait for Panther! (10.3)
    Quick someone post som Panther rumors!!

    Maybe a Pink Panther reference ;)

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  9. Here's Hoping... by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...this means we'll see the introduction of the PowerPC 970-based PowerMacs at WWDC now.

    That's about the only thing that could make up for pissing off everybody who's already made arrangements for May and Apple doesn't usually try to actively piss of its developers.

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    1. Re:Here's Hoping... by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Informative

      Apple have never introduced new hardware at WWDC

      Check your facts before you post next time.

      I can't think of anything more important to Apple developers than a competitive hardware platform.

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    2. Re:Here's Hoping... by jbolden · · Score: 2, Informative

      I agree with you that the 970 release. Apple can show a beta one month or the next pretty easily. Heck Microsoft has demod code over a year before release.

  10. WWDC moved for Preview? Not... by stwf · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It seems to me that simply giving developers a "better preview" version of 10.3 is not a big enough reason to delay the WWDC. I know in the past they have had no problem handing us unusable prealpha's of OS X and called them Developer Previews.

    That would seem to support some kind of announcement that needed to be synchronized with another companies schedule. Moving WWDC has to be quite costly for Apple as well...

    For my Panther prediction I look to the biggest hole in OS X, the Carbonized and PowerPlant based Finder. Since there has been little improvement in it I'll assume a rewritten Cocoa based (and hopefully great) Finder is in the works.

    my 2 cents...

  11. Cool... no wait... that's the day after MacHack! by seedman · · Score: 2, Informative
    @#$%^&*! Wish I could afford to be out of the office for two weeks at a time, but I just can't do it. Although I love MacHack, I don't really have a choice on this one.

    Maybe I'll get lucky and MacHack will move to later in the year next year.

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