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Trigun Coming to Cartoon Network
MoeMoe writes "Well I was just watching Cartoon Network and it looks like Trigun will begin airing in just a couple of weeks. The CN website gives a brief description here" Trigun is among my favorite anime series. It gets a little crazy by the end, but for the most part it's pretty lighthearted fun, with some great action. CN sure seems to love the Anime Sci Fi Westerns. I wonder if they'll carry some of the fluffier stuff besides Tenchi. Love Hina would be a fun choice. Or Excel Saga.
What I don't understand is how these shows are targetted at adults, yet still have many of the restrictions that children's shows have. I mean, look at a prime time show on FOX. Probably a lot more violent and with more sexually suggestive dialogue/scenes than an anime, yet anime aired in North America still gets heavily edited - even for trivial things like someone drinking water instead of beer.
I am a filthy pirate.
Oh, and it is going to be dubbed... bleh... not worth spending your time on anyway.
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Probably because when people hear "Cartoon Network," the initial reaction is that whatever is shown will be appropriate for children.
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I have to say that Trigun is almost perfect for Cartoon Network: Most of it is light, with a character who's a really good guy, unlike many anime heroes who can be a bit morally ambiguous (for the unititiated: Vash doesn't believe in killing, and doesn't do so until the last few episodes).
There's not much that will need to get cut, rither. I can't think of any nudity that will need to be painted over. I'm pretty positive neither Meryl or Milly ever take a trip to the public baths. There's some drinking, but I'm pretty sure CN lets that slide.
They might even be able to air this one on primetime after a while.
In Japan, voice actors actually have some prestige. It's a job people want to be. I can think of a few, like Megumi Hayashibara, whom is an idol out there. People love her! She's Ranma, Lina, or Lime. She's a million other characters, and she's a goddess!
Why is it when these great shows come here, they try to do a quick voiceover, and just get it out. I've been fansubbing for a long time now, and I cringe when I hear dubbed anime. There are very few shows that I've seen that I can even think of watching in english. Ranma 1/2 for one, wasn't terribly bad, but I don't have a clue who the english voice actors are.
I guess I want to know why such a great form of entertainment, and a job thats so honored where the entertainment comes from, gets the back burner here. Is it because they're trying to gear it for children and they feel that children don't need the emotion or force that normally becomes the character, or is it just that they want to save money and time by hiring someone off the street to quickly say the lines and send it to production?
What do you think?
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Plus, I am a hell of a lot more likely to buy an anime that I pirated first to see if it was any good.
Also, using your logic, is buying anime off of e-bay a crime against the anime industry? I understand your debate (I did my Eng 103 final on P2P) but I believe that too many people say P2P should stop and you should buy anime so the RIAA won't shut down all the networks, but doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose? Maybe if the RIAA and the MPAA made a system that cost 10 bucks a month or so and allowed you to download all the movies, music, and everything else you wanted at good prices, then I'd consider actually working with the RIAA directly. And, they'd have to stop poisoning P2P networks and trying to pass all that nasty anti P2P legislation.
Will they ever stop?
you could skip the first 12 and still totally understand the whole story.
It seems that way at first, but those first episodes set up Vash's background, his character, the way he's lived his entire life. Without it, its hard to understand just how big of a deal the stuff at the end is.
If I have been able to see further than others, it is because I bought a pair of binoculars.
You'd have to be a pretty fucking stupid parent to assume that the shows would be appropriate for small children
You mean sort of like the parents who buy their kids grand theft auto, because they just have no fucking clue... these parents are the ones who make me wonder if parenthood training and licensing would be worth it.
If I have been able to see further than others, it is because I bought a pair of binoculars.
Hayashibara Megumi is actually regarded as THE prestige seiyuu to have on board a voice cast in Japan. She is the equivalent of June Foray or the late Mel Blanc and Daws Butler in America...she's more than a seiyuu, she actually represents the whole craft in Japan.
My favorite Hayashibara performance is Nuku Nuku. She conveys the sense of both a cute and cuddly character and her inner strength. Nuku Nuku is at once a kitten and a tiger. If you don't believe me, buy the DVD and listen to the Japanese track with English subtitles. Second favorite performance would be the otherworldly Ayanami Rei from Shin Seiki Evangelion. Least favorite would be Faye Valentine from Cowboy Bebop...Megumi-san can't do hard-boiled. Faye has to be both tough and world-weary. It's just not her forte.
The problem with the whole craft of voice acting in America is that radio drama is almost completely dead here. That's the source of people like Blanc, Butler, Foray and Stan Freberg. If, as some have suggested, the lost art of radio drama could be revived using the Internet as a low cost means of distribution, texts from places like Project Gutenberg as a potential source of material, and open source audio software as a means of production, maybe there is hope for the future of radio drama.
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They just weren't targeted to American children, those poor fragile things.
I agree that I dislike the whole uber powerful superman genre (see GI Joe, et al.), but only if the physical conflict is the point. In Trigun, though, the physical contact is almost never the point. Any time Vash is involved, in fact, the physical confrontation is more for comic relief or some other device. For me, Trigun was about the attempts of a man to live a moral life in a morally compromised world. Whether or not he could defeat his enemies was only really in question twice (both the Hornfreak and Knives had him on the ropes).
Also, if you didn't see any character growth in there, my gawd. Meryl, Millie, Wolfwood, and a host of minor characters all show a great deal of growth. Vash, too, battles an, at times, intense inner struggle that comes to a head near the end. It was the inner world that was important in Trigun, the outer world more often than not provided a needed rest from the intense emotional action.
BlackGriffen
Where does this idea that anime == no social life come from? I mean, there are a lot more girls into anime than, say, computers, percentage-wise. I met my girlfriend because she recognised me from an anime convention my friend took me to. I like anime and all, but she's really into it.
Sure, I know a few really socially-inept anime fans, and saw a frightening amount of fat guys dressed as sailor moon at the last convention, but that was more than off-set by the cute 20-year-old girls in schoolgirl outfits or skimpy sci-fi uniforms and bright pink hair. Most of the anime fans I've met are pretty cool people overall, and don't typify the stereotype at all.
Also, as an aside, I think posting on slashdot automatically takes away a person's right to deride others about not having a social life. Maybe I should just leave you to your attempts to feel better about yourself.
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Y'know, that seems to be the way everyone looks at Trigun. They either think the first 12 episodes are filler and the last 12 are badass, or they think the first 12 are hilarious (a la The Slayers, etc.) and the last 12 are too heavy and unbelievable. I swear, I'm the only person who enjoys the whole damned series.
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