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Apple Terminates Safari Seed Program

Posted by chrisd on from the leaks-are-part-of-betas dept.

coolmacdude writes "This morning Safari beta v67 was leaked to the Internet. Because this is the third time it has happened (v62 and v64 were leaked), Apple has apparantly had enough and decided to terminate the seed program that provided unreleased beta verisons to selected developers. In a email sent to all developers and posted on Mike Wendland's blog, Apple says: 'Due to Safari 67 postings to the internet, we have closed the Safari Seed project. We know that the majority of you are not responsible for the leaks to the internet, and we sincerely appreciate your feedback, time and effort with this project.'"

23 of 404 comments (clear)

  1. First post! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    apple is gay

  2. Why do they... by Picass0 · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    ... just download Konqueror?

  3. Apple compared to North Korea by IgD · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    I think Apple has a lot of similarities to North Korea. Both are radical, extremist and are completely inflexible. Both like to issue unilateral proclamations to its citizens in the case of North Korea and its customers and resellers in the case of Apple. Colorful characters make up the leadership for both organizations. The leader of North Korea is Kim who runs around wearing sunglasses. The leader of Apple is Steve Jobs who sees himself as a diety preaching Apple like a religion. Geographically and politically, North Korea isolates itself from the rest of the world. Similarly Apple has isolated itself from the entire information technology industry.

    Signed,
    Disgruntled Apple II user

  4. Wait for it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Here you are....:

    FFFuUUUuUUCcCCCKkKK YYyYOoOOUuUU
    Biatch!!

  5. Damn this by Ciderx · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    We see this time and again. It is because of this sort of stupidity that Apple have released 10.2.4 and destroyed so many machines - because of this piss-poor atttitude to any sort of beta program....

  6. Yeah.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Hell, Apple already made buckets of cash selling a beta OS and then further charging to make it perform reasonably. They're missing a fabulous opportunity here to charge for Safari Beta, and charge for the upgrades as well.

    1. Re:Yeah.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      Your life must really suck.

  7. So what? by leereyno · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    I'll admit that I don't even know what Safari is, but since it will most likely on run on Macs when it is finished what difference does it make if Apple pulls the betas or even stops development altogether? Until Apple ports its OS to an open platform it isn't going to matter what they do or don't do as far as I'm concerned. I don't care if OS-X will make french toast and give me a blow job, as long as I have to shell out $$$ for a proprietary system that is over-priced for the ammount of power it has I'm not going to run it.

    I've heard rumors about apple demonstrating OS-X running on Athlon based systems that were literally welded shut. While this is interesting I'm almost certain that Apple won't ever sell a version of OS-X for x86 that will run on anything BUT these special boxes.

    Apple is a failed monopoly. They played the keep everything proprietary game and were overrun with open standards based best-of-breed PCs. Once upon a time PC's tried to emulate the Mac, now the shoe is on the other foot. The reason that Microsoft is a successful Monopoly is because it was able to ride the open-platform that is the PC to the top. Apple certainly could have done the same thing. Once upon a time, back in the mid to late 80's, the Mac made the PC look second-rate. If Apple had gotten out of the hardware business and focused on MacOS and applications for the Mac, chances are pretty decent that the Mac would have won, or at the very least still have enough of a market share to be a significant platform.

    Nowadays the only people using them are die-hards and people who got them in order to play with their version of Unix. I'd like to play with their unix too, but I'll be damned if I'm going to buy a whole new computer to do it.

    A very big part of why Linux is so successful is because it runs on ordinary commodity PCs. If it were tied to something like the Sparc or the MIPS or the PPC it would be nothing but a curiosity and FreeBSD would be where it is now.

    Flame me all you want, I've got karma to spare :)

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    1. Re:So what? by bob670 · · Score: 0, Flamebait
      Did you think this article was about Microsoft? Your post make complete sense if I put Microsoft eveyewhere you put the word Apple. When you go for your weekly shock therapy, tell them to up the voltage.

      And is there any real measurement that show Linux is on more desktops than Apple? I thougt not, you may go back to sleep now...

    2. Re:So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      Grow up you fucking pussy faggot. If you don't like apple, don't read... It is incredibly easy for you pontificate, isn't it? You're telling us you haven't bought a new computer? Still using a 386 running BSD? For what ? Bragging rights? Why can't a company do their business without consulting you first? Please enlighten us as to why apple should not produce the whole widget? Nope. Karma prick. Fuck you.

    3. Re:So what? by leereyno · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      It's amazing how easily the hornets nest of mac users is stirred up. What doesn't suprise me is how little you actually have to say about what I wrote. My comment about Microsoft was a comparison, not an statement of advocacy for that company or a defense of its position or practices. My only point where it was concerned was that the end goal of both Microsoft and Apple was a monopoly position and that Microsoft was able to achieve this position because the PC is an open standard whereas the Mac is not. The fact that you chose not to respond to this point means that I must assume you either agree with it or didn't comprehend it the first place.

      I don't know what Safari is, and more to the point don't care, but this does not mean my observations as to its relevance and the relevance of the company behind it are invalid. If Apple ports it to other platforms the way it has Quicktime then it has a chance, till then it simply doesn't matter.

      If you think that every company is a failed monopoly then you need to demand a refund on the tuition you paid for your econ classes because you were robbed.

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  8. Interesting by motox · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I wonder if khtml group should stop allowing Apple to test betas as well

  9. Apple users are dishonest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Apple users are about 8x more likely to pirate software, according to the latest survey from MediaMetrix.

  10. Oh how I ache by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    I need some help from fellow Apple fans. My rectum is aching for a good male fist. Please,
    Apple fanboys, please insert your fist into my rectum and make a fellow Apple guy happy.

  11. Eat cok by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Mod me up you ass clowns

  12. Yes, in addition Apple has nukes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Apple users don't have a choice. Like communist North Korea, they are forced to use those shitty Apple computers.

    Nuke 'em till they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark.

  13. What the hell is Safari anyway? by doubleyou · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    It would be nice if the post gave some indication of what Safari was, or included some relevant links for background. Instead, the guy who wrote this post just assumes I know what he's talking about when he says "Safari".

    The only Safari I know of is O'Reilly's online books service, but I somehow doubt that's related.

  14. Re:Not everyone distributes that way by Vishi+Troll+182 · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    OK, let's everybody get pissed. Camino is THE browser of choice. Let's face it. No other browser has tabbed browser. And, yeah.

  15. Re:Too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Bad Apples, that's like saying wet water.

  16. Re:Why not just open the beta to everyone? by RoLi · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    Oh my god, I can't believe how somebody can be so naive and paranoid at the same time.

    Policies? Courtcases? Judges legalizing piracy because of "they didn't prosecute in the past"? What a bunch of nonsense.

    The only reasons for closing the betas is:

    • So that Steve gets a good feeling showing off new features at the next keynote
    • Integrating it in a new version of MacOSX (and possibly making sure it doesn't run on an older version) to create upgrade incentive and buying incentive. Apple has a long history of crippling their own products (just like the lack of PCI-slots in their customer machines), they just don't get that they hurt themselves in the long run.
    • Company stupidity/paranoia. Essentially that's the same point as the one above.

    Imaginary court cases have nothing to do with it.

  17. Re:Forget Safari seeds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Crayz, you are a pear shaped dweeb.

    Hey everyone, look how fat crayz is:
    http://crayz.dyndns.org/series/fire/DSCF3632.jpg

  18. MC AppleFagg0t, in da hiz-ouse! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Werd to yer boifriend Steve.

  19. The ethical violation is all Apple's. by twitter · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    I consider this to be a small ethical violation on the part of the individual who leaked the beta ... I would still like to see that individual publically flogged.

    Yeah, I understand that's a joke. Some people out there, unfortunately don't. Tha larger picture is not so funny at all.

    You have the whole situation reversed. It's Apple's actions that are reprhensible not the developer. The developer did what comes naturally. Apple is working hard to limit our freedoms. It's not morally wrong to want to share useful things, it's morally wrong to make things that are useful and keep others from having them.

    It's natural to want to share software. Software is as close a thing to ideas and speech as tangible object can come. Like an idea, it is easy to copy and costs the original owner nothing when others make use of it. Good software, like a catchy tune, is something people want to share.

    Apple has not, "placed their trust in a group of developers." Apple extorted a promise from those developers in return for the chance to see and work on a beautiful thing. In return for that, these developers could not share their work or that of others. Because someone violated the master's will, Apple has cracked the whip. You don't need to use whips on people you trust, you need them for your slaves..

    This is a minor incidence of something Apple has done before. All closed source software houses make this deal with their developers. Apple has gone out of it's way to shut down other people's independent work as well. Viewed from the free software perspective, this is nothing new or surprising, though it still stings to see it.

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