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Dvorak Thinks Apple Will Switch to Intel

SeanTobin was among several users who noted that Dvorak's latest column discusses the possibility of Apple going to Intel for future macs. Yeah, this rumor pops up pretty often, but I wonder how long before we'd get binary compatibility between other x86 unix OSs.

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  1. OT: The Looking Glass by ConsistentChaos · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    ... I didn't know I had an evil twin!

    1. Re:OT: The Looking Glass by ChaoticChaos · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Acturally, we were seperated at birth after our parents saw that I was so much more handsome and intellectually gifted.

    2. Re:OT: The Looking Glass by ConsistentChaos · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Or at the very least, looser with the tongue.

  2. Re:Full comments - Site going wanky already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Hell has frozen over? (Score:2, Insightful)
    by ChaoticChaos (603248) on 09:07 AM -- Sunday March 23 2003 (#5578298)
    Gee, what will happen if the Apple computers are no longer twice as much and half as fast as Wintel PCs? GASP! They might actually sell more units!

    Will hell freeze over if the anti-establishment company starts being more mainstream?

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    Why does anyone listen to Dvorak? (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 09:09 AM -- Sunday March 23 2003 (#5578302)
    He's an idiot!

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    Dvorak always does this. (Score:1, Insightful)
    by Anonymous Coward on 09:09 AM -- Sunday March 23 2003 (#5578303)
    Takes something with a shred of truth (the people being at said conferences) and blowing it into something "newsworthy".

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    Full text - Site going slowly already... (Score:1)
    by Jabes (238775) on 09:09 AM -- Sunday March 23 2003 (#5578306)
    ( http://www.adastra.co.uk )
    Prediction: Apple Computer Corp. will switch to Intel processors within the next 12 to 18 months.

    The story starts with January's Intel sales conference. The surprise keynote speaker was Steve Jobs. And then, in the front row of Steve Jobs's keynote address at the last Macworld Expo were top Intel executives. Shortly thereafter, Pixar announced that it would become an Intel shop. That was all step one. Step two is coming.

    Apple has been concerned about Motorola dragging its heels in the processor wars and failing to achieve clock speeds that are even half of what AMD and Intel are achieving. Apple has attempted to rationalize clock-speed issues, but the company knows that it cannot do this forever. Worse is the feud between Motorola and Apple, which began after Apple suddenly pulled the plug on the license it gave Motorola to clone the Mac.

    Change is good. Apple has a unique ability to get away with changing processors radically. It has used the 6502, then the 68K, and now the PowerPC. Each transition happened almost flawlessly. On the PC side of the fence, no Z-80 maker survived even the transition to the 8080. Apple has also cultivated a fanatical following, who have long since accepted the fact that Apple eschews long-term backward compatibility. The legacy concept does not hold the power over Apple users that it does in the PC universe.

    Apple's only concern is cannibalization. It cannot change architectures with a pipeline full of PowerPC products. So expect a slow transition that will start with the high-end workstations. Apple's concern is that Motorola may muddy the situation, so Jobs will have to convince Motorola and customers that the PowerPC will not be phased out but will remain as part of a dual-processor architecture.

    Scenario. Apple will announce its Intel initiative by showing a transition machine that uses both the Intel and Motorola processors. "So current Mac owners will not have to worry." This will be a high-end machine optimized to run Photoshop. Apple is adept at creating dual-processor architectures, so this won't be too radical. We've heard rumors of this kind of scenario for some time, under the code name Marklar.

    Itanium. What will be radical is the company's choice of processor. Apple will announce its use of the Itanium chip, which can be used in such a multiprocessor design and will become the first desktop use of the chip. The choice of the Itanium is suggested by four factors. First, there is zero evidence that Apple is talking to AMD--and it would if it were staying with the x86 legacy chips. Second, Apple likes to make jazzy announcements in which it claims to be the first or the most aggressive in a market. The Itanium fills the bill perfectly, because Jobs can lord it over current PC makers with all sorts of performance claims.

    Third, if Apple optimizes the OS X kernel for the Itanium, the likelihood of the Apple OS being ripped off by normal PC users is nil. And finally, by choosing the Itanium, Apple will have an

  3. Re:Dvorak: MORON by stevejsmith · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Actually...the religion of Islam is very highly based upon Judaism, most specifically the Old Testament (and the New Testament, at that). Sure, he doesn't like Jews, but many Muslims don't because they believe that since the days of early Judaism they've been corrupted. Oh, and then there's the fact that modern-day Jews have stolen Israel and Jerusalem from them in the 1950s. Oy vey.

  4. YOU FAIL IT as a karma whore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    You thought by posting the text of the article you would taste the godlike ambrosia of +5, but instead you're eating the bitter horseapples of score 0.

    YOU FAIL IT as a karma whore. Better luck next time, looser.

  5. WOOHOOO! AMERICA IS A PAPER TIGER! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    IRAQ HAS TAKEN AMERICAN IMPERIALIST SOLDIERS PRISONER!

    THOSE GANGSTERS ARE GETTING SLAPPED NOW!

    AMERICA IS A PAPER TIGER! KEEP FIGHTING!

    THE AMERICAN PROPOGANDA MEDIA TRIES TO HIDE IT BUT LOOK AT AL-JEZEERA AND BBC!

    THE IMPERIALISTS ARE ENCOUNTERING VERY HEAVY RESISTANCE!

    MESOPOTAMIA WILL STAY INDEPENDENT FROM AMERICAN GANGSTERS!

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  6. Re:Your Mother Eats Shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Ya right flag waving losers where saying the same thing about vietnam haha.

  7. Unreliable by ironicsky · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    This thread is false... Apple is releasing Safari as a PUBLIC BETA on their website : http://www.apple.com/safari/. Which is still up and running

  8. I STILL LOVE YOU! THOSE OTHER FAGS MEANT NOTHING! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    It meant nothing to me! Please! I need your cock in my ass!

  9. Future Computing & Comms with Airships (w/link by OldHawk777 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Future of user/subscriber go-everywhere & do-everything (GoDo for short) computing would include communications (GSM, WiFi 802.11x, Bluetooth, and IR/RF capabilities included). Still ... I would select Transmeta code-morphing processors as the technology edge for that future not Intel, Motorola, or TI ... though TI does now have a chip set that comes closer to the above stated goal for digital transmission systems. Transmeta code-morphing processors provide the ability to redefine operational spectrum requirements as you travel locally and globally with (I suspect, don't know?) less complex circuits/chip sets. The technology is known as Software Definable Radios (SDR). The future looks good to me ....

    Related Links:

    SDR.org - http://www.sdrforum.org/sdr_primer.html

    TI DR Chip Set - http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20020109S0063

    Transmeta - http://www.transmeta.com

    Airship - http://wireless.iop.org/articles/feature/1/1/3/1

    http://www.airship.com/prod/uses_telecoms_frames.h tm

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  10. Re:Gayness factor would decrease by Game+Genie · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    A few points: 1) I do not engage in sex with other men. 2) Regardless, your idiotic use of the word gay is very offenceive. 3) Yeah, they really should use the new IBM 970's 4) Intel sucks.

  11. Binary compatability by howardjp · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Run NetBSD if you want binary compatability.