1. Who won the Oscar 2. Which Category 3. Which Movie
There is no related story explaining why this is such a great thing. The post a lsodoes not explain this. Now this is not a case of someone complaining without reading the related story, so can someone please explain what happened???
Sorry, I submitted this post, so I guess I'm responsible. It's significant not just because it's recognition of Hayao Miyazaki and his body of work (Nausicaa, Porco Rosso, Cagliostro's Castle, Laputa: Castle in the Sky, Kiki's Delivery Service, etc.), it's also an historic Hollywood recognition of Anime as an art form. This is the first time that any Anime has won an Oscar - and it was up against "Ice Age", a CG wonder, and two Disney films, "Treasure Planet" and "Lilo and Stitch".
It's also recognition that animated films don't have to be musicals for children in the Disney style.
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I don't really care for anime, however
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Rooked_One
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but storylines like the ones that Little Ninjai has blow me away. Its a wonderful myraid of anime but for some reason it seems americanized in a way. I know this is a little offtopic but if you look at it in a way I am talking about something similar to the subject and sort of "pimping out Little Ninjai" for those of you who havn't seen it. I'd just like to see more of that "something" that most anime's seem to lack. Don't get me wrong, I loved Tenchi Meauo (I know thats spelled wrong, but just pronounce it)
Re:And for those who haven't seen it....
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lavalyn
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Ooooh!!! Laputa! >drools
The soundtrack for Laputa, even 16 years later, still touches a nerve. Joe Hisashi is incredibly talented - comparable to Alan Silvestri (of Forrest Gump fame).
-- Doing the Right Thing should not be preempted by making a buck.
Re:Great movie - shame about the marketing
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kaworu-sama
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Exactly. I wish these american marketing people would realize there is a real market for widely-appealing anime such as this, and not just to hardcore otaku. If feature-film anime had serious marketing in america, maybe everyone would realize its not just "one of them there japanese cartoons". Maybe miyazaki's next hit movie will have a better reception here.
Re:Subscription Perks
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Nogami_Saeko
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I assume that the editors were watching and posted it immediately.
In any case, Hollywood finally gets it right - to be sure, SA didn't have much in the way of real competition, but I was pleasantly surprised regardless.
Here's hoping that Laputa is released domestically soon!
N.
-- "Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence." - Charles de Gaulle
My Take on Awards Ceremonies
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telstar
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I'm sure this will get modded as off-topic or flamebait, but these awards ceremonies are nothing buy self-congratulatory nonsense. I go to work. I do my job. I don't expect people to watch a TV show about me getting recognized for doing what I'm paid to do. I don't need an emmy, a grammy, an oscar, an MTV award, a Blockbuster award, a golden globe, or a people's choice award to know whether I'm good at what I do or not.
I apologize for not making reference to this movie that won the award, and mod this as you please... but for what the industry costs and what the participants earn... everything that hits the screen aught to be worthy of an award.
Re:My Take on Awards Ceremonies
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nathanh
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I don't expect people to watch a TV show about me getting recognized for doing what I'm paid to do. I don't need an emmy, a grammy, an oscar, an MTV award, a Blockbuster award, a golden globe, or a people's choice award to know whether I'm good at what I do or not.
But software does get moderated. There are software awards. There are software ratings. You can buy magazines that compare software products. There are TV shows that discuss software. I flick through PC magazines (wouldn't bother paying for them!) to read the ratings so I know what software products are the pick of the crop.
So don't pretend that there aren't awards. There are! It's just the entertainment industry does a far better job of promoting the awards ceremony than other groups do. It's not as if Best Software Product Of The Year doesn't exist; it's just so poorly marketted that not many people hear about it. I think that says more about Hollywood's skill than it says about their ego.
Re:It's so damn good...
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jsmthng
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Uhh, what do you mean "finally"? This is only the second year this category has existed at the Oscars.
I enjoyed the dub quite thuroughly, actually, and I've seen it both subbed and dubbed.
I actually -prefer- the dub for Spirited away, and that is a verry Verry rare thing for me.
And let's not forget...
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Ayanami+Rei
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Lilo and Stitch was a damn fine movie too. It had been awhile since Disney released a movie that got that special balance between kid-friendly and more sophisticated adult humor. And it was beautiful (being set in Hawaii helped there). No silly music, (except for THE KING), and a weighty plotline too.
Spirited Away wasn't up against just any flavor-of-the-year Disney flick. The fact that Disney lost out to an import in the category carries extra weight.
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Re:Disney's Plan of Control
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Robotech_Master
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No, they bought the world-wide rights to Miyazaki's works so they could make substantial profits on selling it everywhere else in the world where Miyazaki was known and revered, including Japan. The USA, where people still think cartoons are for kids, wasn't the subject of some sort of great cover-up--it just wasn't a priority.
Maybe now that will change.
-- Editor Emeritus and Senior Writer, TeleRead.org
Impressive win
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Dark+Bard
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It's about time."
Isn't this the second year of that particular category? The impressive thing isn't that it took so long it's that it happened so fast. To have a japanese film win the second time the animation award was given is quite an accomplishment. At least it didn't end up being a tug of war between Disney and Dreamworks. Adds a lot of legitimacy to the award.
Re:Michael Moore Nominated Biggest UnAmerican
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mondoterrifico
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Why does any criticism of this invasion of Iraq garner such strong feelings of hatred?
I mean you live in a democracy suposedly where people are free to voice there concerns.
Just seems weird is all. I mean who hear, blindly supports anything in other areas of their life to the extent that criticism illicits such strong hatred?
"Good or bad but not much in between"? Did we see the same movie? Name one unequivocally bad character.
Re:Michael Moore Nominated Biggest UnAmerican
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TheShadow
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I'm not pissed off that he is against the war. First of all, his comments were inappropriate for the Academy Awards... it's not the time to get up on your soapbox. Second, to say that we live in "Fictious times" while there is a very real war going on is sickening. People are over in Iraq dying and he's ranting from his safe little place on stage in California. All he had to say was "Support our troops, bring them home."
Finally, what is really interesting is that he is against something whose end result might give the same freedom he just exercised to millions of people who haven't had that freedom in more than 24 years.
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-- "What do you want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? Cause I'm married."
Typical of the Academy
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Wessoman
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I know I will probably get flamed for this, but let's be honest. "Spirited Away" is not Miyazaki's best. In fact, I'm sorry, story, animation, soundtrack, characters, and simply EVERYTHING was simply not up to par considering his older works, like Nausicaa and Laputa.
Look, I think it's great that Miyazaki finally got the recognition he deserves. But that is just it-- I honestly think that Miyazaki is only being awarded because of his body of work, and largely because he has been ignored by the Hollywood mafia for two decades already. Furthermore, Spirited Away was up against some extremely weak competition. I mean, "Ice Age", "Treasure Planet"? I've seen more riveting animation in crapcan 70's Hanna Barbera saturday morning cartoons. Reality check: I'm sorry, but if Spirited Away went up against "Shrek", it would have been toast.
That said, I'm glad that Anime has it's foot in the door now. I guess Disney can stop making these horrible musical cartoons now, and Hollywood will start taking more Anime directors, like Oshii, far more seriously. But the sad reality is, this reeked of the typical Academy behavior of awarding a person based on a body of work rather than a truly great film.
Re:Get serious, please.
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What a load of psudo-intellectual crappetty-crap-crap crap.
You are taking a basic, generic thesis--the capitalist west encroaches on some native populace, seduces it, which causes it to lose its soul. Sure, this is a common story that can be applied to many places throughout the world.
But not here.
Perhaps more than any other country that I know Japan has done a credible job of managing a harmonious coexistance of traditional culture with an international one. Notions that the west introduced capitalism to japan is bullshit. While arguably democracy (or something close enough to it) didn't come to japan until after the war, Japan developed a parallel capitalist culture along the lines of that of western europe regardless of the dutch, perry, or whoever else you want to point to.
The japanese have famously "embraced and extended" outside technologies, but have not done it at the expense of their cultural soul as, say, Shanghai or Jakarta is in the process of doing. Japanese culture is alive and well, and we have no particular need to sympathize with the Japanese for the reasons you suggest. The movie might be interpreted as a reminder to japanese to be mindful of the importance of traditional values, but your suggestion that it is an apt allegory for the japanese condition as pitiful victim of the west is absolute and total nonsense.
(disclaimer: 10 years lived in japan, saw movie in both languages, etc.)
The information this post provides is:
1. Who won the Oscar
2. Which Category
3. Which Movie
There is no related story explaining why this is such a great thing. The post a lsodoes not explain this. Now this is not a case of someone complaining without reading the related story, so can someone please explain what happened???
but storylines like the ones that Little Ninjai has blow me away. Its a wonderful myraid of anime but for some reason it seems americanized in a way. I know this is a little offtopic but if you look at it in a way I am talking about something similar to the subject and sort of "pimping out Little Ninjai" for those of you who havn't seen it. I'd just like to see more of that "something" that most anime's seem to lack. Don't get me wrong, I loved Tenchi Meauo (I know thats spelled wrong, but just pronounce it)
Ooooh!!! Laputa! >drools
The soundtrack for Laputa, even 16 years later, still touches a nerve. Joe Hisashi is incredibly talented - comparable to Alan Silvestri (of Forrest Gump fame).
Doing the Right Thing should not be preempted by making a buck.
Exactly. I wish these american marketing people would realize there is a real market for widely-appealing anime such as this, and not just to hardcore otaku. If feature-film anime had serious marketing in america, maybe everyone would realize its not just "one of them there japanese cartoons". Maybe miyazaki's next hit movie will have a better reception here.
I assume that the editors were watching and posted it immediately.
In any case, Hollywood finally gets it right - to be sure, SA didn't have much in the way of real competition, but I was pleasantly surprised regardless.
Here's hoping that Laputa is released domestically soon!
N.
"Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence." - Charles de Gaulle
I'm sure this will get modded as off-topic or flamebait, but these awards ceremonies are nothing buy self-congratulatory nonsense. I go to work. I do my job. I don't expect people to watch a TV show about me getting recognized for doing what I'm paid to do. I don't need an emmy, a grammy, an oscar, an MTV award, a Blockbuster award, a golden globe, or a people's choice award to know whether I'm good at what I do or not.
... but for what the industry costs and what the participants earn ... everything that hits the screen aught to be worthy of an award.
I apologize for not making reference to this movie that won the award, and mod this as you please
Uhh, what do you mean "finally"? This is only the second year this category has existed at the Oscars.
I enjoyed the dub quite thuroughly, actually, and I've seen it both subbed and dubbed.
I actually -prefer- the dub for Spirited away, and that is a verry Verry rare thing for me.
Lilo and Stitch was a damn fine movie too. It had been awhile since Disney released a movie that got that special balance between kid-friendly and more sophisticated adult humor. And it was beautiful (being set in Hawaii helped there). No silly music, (except for THE KING), and a weighty plotline too.
Spirited Away wasn't up against just any flavor-of-the-year Disney flick. The fact that Disney lost out to an import in the category carries extra weight.
THIS THING CAN TURN ON A DIME, MACROSSZERO STYLE ALSO FUCK BETA, ~NYORON
No, they bought the world-wide rights to Miyazaki's works so they could make substantial profits on selling it everywhere else in the world where Miyazaki was known and revered, including Japan. The USA, where people still think cartoons are for kids, wasn't the subject of some sort of great cover-up--it just wasn't a priority.
Maybe now that will change.
Editor Emeritus and Senior Writer, TeleRead.org
It's about time." Isn't this the second year of that particular category? The impressive thing isn't that it took so long it's that it happened so fast. To have a japanese film win the second time the animation award was given is quite an accomplishment. At least it didn't end up being a tug of war between Disney and Dreamworks. Adds a lot of legitimacy to the award.
Why does any criticism of this invasion of Iraq garner such strong feelings of hatred?
I mean you live in a democracy suposedly where people are free to voice there concerns.
Just seems weird is all.
I mean who hear, blindly supports anything in other areas of their life to the extent that criticism illicits such strong hatred?
"Good or bad but not much in between"? Did we see the same movie? Name one unequivocally bad character.
I'm not pissed off that he is against the war. First of all, his comments were inappropriate for the Academy Awards... it's not the time to get up on your soapbox. Second, to say that we live in "Fictious times" while there is a very real war going on is sickening. People are over in Iraq dying and he's ranting from his safe little place on stage in California. All he had to say was "Support our troops, bring them home."
Finally, what is really interesting is that he is against something whose end result might give the same freedom he just exercised to millions of people who haven't had that freedom in more than 24 years.
--
"What do you want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? Cause I'm married."
I know I will probably get flamed for this, but let's be honest. "Spirited Away" is not Miyazaki's best. In fact, I'm sorry, story, animation, soundtrack, characters, and simply EVERYTHING was simply not up to par considering his older works, like Nausicaa and Laputa. Look, I think it's great that Miyazaki finally got the recognition he deserves. But that is just it-- I honestly think that Miyazaki is only being awarded because of his body of work, and largely because he has been ignored by the Hollywood mafia for two decades already. Furthermore, Spirited Away was up against some extremely weak competition. I mean, "Ice Age", "Treasure Planet"? I've seen more riveting animation in crapcan 70's Hanna Barbera saturday morning cartoons. Reality check: I'm sorry, but if Spirited Away went up against "Shrek", it would have been toast. That said, I'm glad that Anime has it's foot in the door now. I guess Disney can stop making these horrible musical cartoons now, and Hollywood will start taking more Anime directors, like Oshii, far more seriously. But the sad reality is, this reeked of the typical Academy behavior of awarding a person based on a body of work rather than a truly great film.
You are taking a basic, generic thesis--the capitalist west encroaches on some native populace, seduces it, which causes it to lose its soul. Sure, this is a common story that can be applied to many places throughout the world.
But not here.
Perhaps more than any other country that I know Japan has done a credible job of managing a harmonious coexistance of traditional culture with an international one. Notions that the west introduced capitalism to japan is bullshit. While arguably democracy (or something close enough to it) didn't come to japan until after the war, Japan developed a parallel capitalist culture along the lines of that of western europe regardless of the dutch, perry, or whoever else you want to point to.
The japanese have famously "embraced and extended" outside technologies, but have not done it at the expense of their cultural soul as, say, Shanghai or Jakarta is in the process of doing. Japanese culture is alive and well, and we have no particular need to sympathize with the Japanese for the reasons you suggest. The movie might be interpreted as a reminder to japanese to be mindful of the importance of traditional values, but your suggestion that it is an apt allegory for the japanese condition as pitiful victim of the west is absolute and total nonsense.
(disclaimer: 10 years lived in japan, saw movie in both languages, etc.)