Maybe it's because it came out on the Dreamcast, but Grandia 2 is overrated. First off, the voice acting isn't awesome. Compared to the verbal ear-rape in most NA RPGs it's decent, but the fact is that they're still cartoon voice actors -- not professional voice actors.
What, are cartoon voice actors not good enough? Did you ever look at the cast? Ryudo was voiced by Leonardo! LEONARDO. How cool is that?
Roan was Scarlett from GI Joe. Hell, Millenia was voiced by The Little Mermaid.
I'm amazed that in all these posts, all of the "what girls play" descriptions have been written by their husbands or boyfriends.
Not surprising at all. You read slashdot, and you're already a gamer. The question is -- and has always been -- what kind of games will appeal to women who aren't already playing games?
I hang around a pretty geek crowd, and it's strange for me to think that there *are* women who don't play videogames (of the seven people living in my house, the three females (including me) are all avid gamers). Actually, rephrase that -- it's strange to me that there are women who actively don't play videogames; I have female friends who don't own gaming devices, but wouldn't turn down a controller if you offered it to her. But I've met "normal" women my age (mid-20s) who probably wouldn't do that, or might do it, bravely, once, and then become frustrated at her performance and choose not to play again without a lot of coaxing.
I think puzzle games are the right way to lure them in, but I'm not sure. I feel as if this demographic does already play puzzle games, but I don't know what's the correct progression to convince someone who plays popcap games into becoming a serial RPGer, for instance. (Or maybe different people just like different genres.)
As a girl gamer, then, if you were given the task of convincing your non-gaming female friends to play video games.. how would you do it? What kind of games would you start them out with?
Final Fantasy (excluding FFX2, because that, like Tomb Raider, is marketed specifically to males)
That's funny to me, because I'm (23yo female gamer) looking forward to it. Sure, the heroines are scantily clad, but I don't consider that a *bad* thing. In fact, hidden deep down, there's a very feminine part of me that is terribly excited about getting to play "dress-up" via the job system.
I think the poster who said "Playing video games doesn't have to be a 'masculine' or 'feminine' activity any more than watching a movie" has it right -- and I'd treat playing something like Tomb Raider or FFX2 like going out to watch Charlie's Angels. Some people might find it offensive, but others might find it... fun. And the only reason there remains a perception that women don't game as much is because, arguably, video games are still only becoming really mainstream.
Actually, it's pretty friggin' hard to find FF Anthology (which has V and VI), let alone find it for less than what it'd cost you to, say, buy IX. I haven't seen FF Chronicles (which has IV) for a particularly low price, either. (But everybody seems to have FFVII & VIII on sale.) And FFI still hasn't been released for anything other than the original NES, afaik.
If you want a better reason to play them in order, it's so you can appreciate the earlier ones more. When I was introduced to Final Fantasy, I was given IV to start with, because the person who introduced them to me didn't want me to play VI first and then not-enjoy any of the others, because the graphics and gameplay were "more primitive" or something. I'm not sure if I believe that would have happened if I'd done it that way, but it's probably not so bad a thing to consider. (Incidentally, I'm completely hooked now.)
I'm 76% sure there's a U.S. law against fax spam, because it gets the bonus of specifically causing real-life monetary damage (in this case, waste of paper and ink, especially when fax paper was a big deal Back in the Day; email really is just electronic bits with the occasional per-minute cost).
Ha, google gets me a random attorney's page on the subject: http://www.markwelch.com/faxlaw.htm
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so you can change the options back to "cumulative score" before dealing the next hand, when you finally win a round. :)
Maybe it's because it came out on the Dreamcast, but Grandia 2 is overrated. First off, the voice acting isn't awesome. Compared to the verbal ear-rape in most NA RPGs it's decent, but the fact is that they're still cartoon voice actors -- not professional voice actors.
What, are cartoon voice actors not good enough? Did you ever look at the cast? Ryudo was voiced by Leonardo! LEONARDO. How cool is that?
Roan was Scarlett from GI Joe. Hell, Millenia was voiced by The Little Mermaid.
Not too shabby, I think.
I'm amazed that in all these posts, all of the "what girls play" descriptions have been written by their husbands or boyfriends.
Not surprising at all. You read slashdot, and you're already a gamer. The question is -- and has always been -- what kind of games will appeal to women who aren't already playing games?
I hang around a pretty geek crowd, and it's strange for me to think that there *are* women who don't play videogames (of the seven people living in my house, the three females (including me) are all avid gamers). Actually, rephrase that -- it's strange to me that there are women who actively don't play videogames; I have female friends who don't own gaming devices, but wouldn't turn down a controller if you offered it to her. But I've met "normal" women my age (mid-20s) who probably wouldn't do that, or might do it, bravely, once, and then become frustrated at her performance and choose not to play again without a lot of coaxing.
I think puzzle games are the right way to lure them in, but I'm not sure. I feel as if this demographic does already play puzzle games, but I don't know what's the correct progression to convince someone who plays popcap games into becoming a serial RPGer, for instance. (Or maybe different people just like different genres.)
As a girl gamer, then, if you were given the task of convincing your non-gaming female friends to play video games.. how would you do it? What kind of games would you start them out with?
Final Fantasy (excluding FFX2, because that, like Tomb Raider, is marketed specifically to males)
That's funny to me, because I'm (23yo female gamer) looking forward to it. Sure, the heroines are scantily clad, but I don't consider that a *bad* thing. In fact, hidden deep down, there's a very feminine part of me that is terribly excited about getting to play "dress-up" via the job system.
I think the poster who said "Playing video games doesn't have to be a 'masculine' or 'feminine' activity any more than watching a movie" has it right -- and I'd treat playing something like Tomb Raider or FFX2 like going out to watch Charlie's Angels. Some people might find it offensive, but others might find it... fun. And the only reason there remains a perception that women don't game as much is because, arguably, video games are still only becoming really mainstream.
Uhh, what do you mean "finally"? This is only the second year this category has existed at the Oscars.
They *do*.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/games/
Actually, it's pretty friggin' hard to find FF Anthology (which has V and VI), let alone find it for less than what it'd cost you to, say, buy IX. I haven't seen FF Chronicles (which has IV) for a particularly low price, either. (But everybody seems to have FFVII & VIII on sale.) And FFI still hasn't been released for anything other than the original NES, afaik.
If you want a better reason to play them in order, it's so you can appreciate the earlier ones more. When I was introduced to Final Fantasy, I was given IV to start with, because the person who introduced them to me didn't want me to play VI first and then not-enjoy any of the others, because the graphics and gameplay were "more primitive" or something. I'm not sure if I believe that would have happened if I'd done it that way, but it's probably not so bad a thing to consider. (Incidentally, I'm completely hooked now.)
I'm 76% sure there's a U.S. law against fax spam, because it gets the bonus of specifically causing real-life monetary damage (in this case, waste of paper and ink, especially when fax paper was a big deal Back in the Day; email really is just electronic bits with the occasional per-minute cost).
Ha, google gets me a random attorney's page on the subject: http://www.markwelch.com/faxlaw.htm
You get $500 per violation. Woo.