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i4u writes "Sony introduces at the Robodex 2003 it's new version of the humanoid Robot SDR-4X. The Sony SDR-4X was introduced last year. The new version SDR-4X II has improved movement functions, safety functions and conversation capabilities. The new speech processor supports continuous speech recognition with about 20,000 words. The Sony SDR-4X II is about 580x190x270mm in size and weighs about 7kg. Sony Japanse Press-Release. See also the new robot Toshiba announced - the ApriAlpha."

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  1. Fluid motion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How long before these robots are given fluid motion and balancing? I wouldn't so much care if the robot could walk if it could balance itself in a shifting environ.

    Seems much more humanly adaptable that way.

    1. Re:Fluid motion by dogbox · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That would be cool if it could have fluid motion and balancing. On the other hand, this is probably not really an option at the moment or even the near future. The market must be very small for so expensive an item (the article says it will cost as much as a luxury car), and if they added something like fluid motion etc. the robot would leave the price-range of a car and enter the price-range of something like a house or possibly even more. The idea is cool, but its not really a possibility for a long time.

    2. Re:Fluid motion by JPM+NICK · · Score: 3, Interesting

      At MIT they are doing experiments with robots to mimic the movements of fish. Scientists studying and building fish robots would like to solve "Gray's paradox," named for James Gray, a British zoologist and specialist in animal locomotion, who theorized that fish are more efficient swimmers than they should be. The "Pike Project" http://web.mit.edu/towtank/www/pike/

  2. Asimo touring the us by gad_zuki! · · Score: 3, Informative

    On a related note, Honda's Asimo is touring the US. Asimo groupies you know who you are.

    1. Re:Asimo touring the us by bobbozzo · · Score: 2, Funny
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  3. 20k words by lingqi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    in Japanese, right? in which case (if we count kanji characters) is a LOT.

    btw japanese is a pain in the butt compared to english - I think if the robot really manages conversation in japanese, english is cake. Why I say that? most spoken japanese has no subject, object, and ususally can be interpreted in multiple ways based on context.

    lastly, notice all the humanoid robots go around with slightly bent knees. whassup with that? anybody know? I go around with a bent knee because I am bow-legged, but I hardly think the sony robot has that problem.

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    1. Re:20k words by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2, Interesting

      >lastly, notice all the humanoid robots go around with slightly bent knees

      This has to do with balance. A lot of robots have a "backpack" where designers put most of the electronics. By bending at the knee they're less likely to topple.

    2. Re:20k words by Archon-X · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Are you joking?
      20,000 words is 20,000 words, english, french or swahili. Kanji is just the script that the words are written in.

      Japanese is one of the most rigourous languages out there. No other language that I know of has ~5 levels of politeness.

      Failproof Japanese sentence syntax:
      Time [de] subject [wa] object [particle] verb [desu]

      And yes, that's very basic, but compared to english, pah!

      Context? You can't muck up - you have particles that you places after words that determine the context. [ie, wo makes the object, wa makes the subject etc] ..and that's on a basic level.

    3. Re:20k words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      By context he means that, since Japanese has very few syllables, and shorts words, many words may have differents meanings, depending on what other words they're used with. However I guess the robot recongizes 20000 words but doesn't usually "understand" them.

    4. Re:20k words by Saeger · · Score: 2, Funny
      You should really wait for the next generation of robots; the current ones are full of bugs.

      My fembot struts around the neighborhood chanting, "Panties. Panties. Panties", for some reason I know *nothing* about, and I can't get it to stop!

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  4. Just what I need... by localghost · · Score: 2, Funny

    For fighting off those evil ninja pirates! This thing does have laser eyes and gatling guns mounted on each arm, right? With an option for the shoulder-mounted rocket launcher? Or am I thinking of a different robot?

  5. Old Glory Robot Insurance by brood · · Score: 4, Funny

    Don't forget to buy robot insurance! "To protect us from the metal ones".

  6. When I was kid... by heldlikesound · · Score: 3, Funny

    My ultimate dream toy was this big room that had a balcony, in the room would be a scaled down fort, jungle, river, etc... Then, we'd have these little guys that had guns and we could remote control them to fight and have wars and all kinds of cool stuff. Kind of like Rainbow Six, minus the computer part, and scaled down.

    Anyway, these new thing got my hopes up, until I realized that it doesn't even look like it can fire a gun.

    Why the hell would you make a robot that can't fire a gun?

    Let me take that one step further, if you are designing a robot, why the hell would you not just give it guns as hands. ::sigh::

    It better know karate.

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    1. Re:When I was kid... by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2, Interesting

      >Why the hell would you make a robot that can't fire a gun?

      The predator drone fires Hellfire missiles? Hows that grab ya?

      It shouldn't be that tough to build a small stout robot that can shoot a small handgun at a decent sized target using some basic computer vision on a hobbyist's budget.

      I probably shouldn't have said anything. Its going to be scary seeing this on slashdot next week: "Legobot fires .22 pistol. Three geeks injured."

  7. For the girlfriend by ahkbarr · · Score: 4, Funny

    The new speech processor supports continuous speech recognition with about 20,000 words.

    Yeah, I'll show it 20,000 continuous words... I usually fade away after around 17,835 continuous words or less. Say A-men, brothers!

    Seriously, it's a good listener. I think I'll get one for the girlfriend, and I can have a nice break.

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  8. Anime culture... by Op911 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Interesting that from a nation that loves its giant battling robots (as seen in every other anime series from Japan) there is enough desire on the part of the manufacturers to create such robots in real life. And that there is enough demand there to make it worthwhile. They wouldn't be able to make these things if they couldn't sell them; You wouldn't be able to get the vast majority of North Americans to shell out a couple thousand on these things or an AIBO for instance. I'm a geek and I think these are cool but you won't catch me buying one until it's smart enough to get a job and make money to pay for itself. So why do the Japanese love these things so much? Any thoughts?

    1. Re:Anime culture... by DroppedPacket · · Score: 2, Interesting
      You make some very interesting points, but there is so much unsaid. If you poke below the surface of what you descibe as vision, I think you might hit some of the underpinnings of the actual culture. Just to elucidate on the three cultures you mentioned:

      Japanese: Hi-tech, but also hi-tech dependant. They have a very high population density and need the hi-tech for continued survival. (Food, power, infrastructure.) In some ways they run to stay in place.

      Finland: Lots of communication. Internet, cell phones, etc. Don't they get rather cold and isolated during the winter? Could this be part of it?

      United State: Exploration and moving onwards. The country has been doing that since founding, but there is not much land left to explore.

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  9. Will a SDK be avaiable? by Blaine+Hilton · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I hope they offer a SDK to developers, and that it would be free, or at least low cost. I meen the more apps that use their robots the more they sell right?

  10. Remember... by djupedal · · Score: 2, Insightful

    During such 'actions' as the war in Iraq, your fancy home robot, with GPS, will be reduced to having a spatial accuracy of 100 meters, not one. You might want to buy a unit that uses sonar and domestic region mapping, in addition to any GPS capability.

  11. are you making this up? by lingqi · · Score: 2, Informative

    hmm. peachy

    until you want to express "the faster the better" (does not translate literally, at ALL), "I bumped my head while entering the bath" (as far as i know there is no expressing for "while entering," as any japanese equivalent to english versions mean "while bathing"), or interpret "yorushiku" or "sumimasen" in their million and half meanings.

    and I havn't even begun to count the thousands of "sound the exact same" words. a simple example might be "kanji," which, depending on the "kanji - chinese characters" can mean "kanji - feeling," or "kanji - work." try differentiating them.

    I cannot imagine anybody who knows japanese well to even have a thought that japanese is easy to parse. AFAIK french is easy to parse - but I am sorry Japanese is far from it.

    oh, and I counted 9 different "requesting somebody to do stuff" politeness levels the other day, not counting multiple politeness level combinations (verb + politeness suffix + request / command + politeness suffix for the request). Japanese people themselves hardly can differentiate which one is more polite than the other.

    lastly, since all kanji characters have different meanings - you can more-or less guess the entire language if you have a sense of what every kanji means (this is why chinese people can usually understand what's going on in a japanese newspaper). so 20k words vs 20k kanji is very much different.

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    1. Re:are you making this up? by davejenkins · · Score: 2, Informative

      until you want to express "the faster the better"

      hayai kagiri yoi.

      "I bumped my head while entering the bath" (as far as i know there is no expressing for "while entering,"

      hairu tochuu-- bath ni hairu tochuu atama wo butsukemashita. however, that's poor grammar. bath ni hairu tokoro atama butsukemashita.

      As far as you know-- which doesn't seem to be very far. :-)

  12. Babebot by SnuSnu · · Score: 3, Funny

    Me so horny, me love you long time... Prease to insert credit card.

  13. Real World Robots by rpiquepa · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sony is introducing a new robot, but this is only part of the story. Sony is betting its future on robots. Sony believes robotics will be bigger than the computer industry in 30 years. And there are many other robots coming, in hospitals, in New York steam pipes or on the battlefield. Look for example at Elvis, designed by Pyxis, which carries medications, or the future Mitsubishi Heavy Industries' Wakamaru, a home caretaker for the elderly. Check this column for more details or read this Newsweekarticle.

  14. Now that's progress! by CyberGrunt · · Score: 2, Funny

    It can sing and dance... hopefully soon it will be able to play baseball, bike ride, and go for hikes so I will have more time to slave away at my meanial labor.

  15. If I had one... by batobin · · Score: 2, Funny

    If I had one, I'd program it to recognize my friends. Then if one of them said something mean about my girlfriend, I'd tell my robot, "Say hello to [name].

    The robot would then proceed to the violating friend, begin humping his leg, shouting, "I LOVE YOU ORGANIC MASTER!"

    But that's just me...

  16. With a name like robodex... by fgb · · Score: 2, Funny

    It sounds like a new PDA.

    So, how many contacts can it hold?

  17. Open Pino by SubtleNuance · · Score: 2, Informative

    have a look at Open Pino for anyone interested in a Free Software implementation of a Robot - as well as Free (as in speech) design.

    Who would buy a "stop them at the router, stop them at the blah blah" (remember that quote?) product from Sony?

  18. Ask Slashdot by njdj · · Score: 2, Funny

    When will Slashdot editors learn to spell "its"?

  19. Improved safety functions by glwtta · · Score: 3, Funny
    The new version SDR-4X II has improved [...] safety functions...

    What like:

    The SDR-4X II may not injure a human being, or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.

    The SDR-4X II must obey the orders given it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

    The SDR-4X II must protect its own existence, except where such protection would conflict with the First or Second Law.

    Or do they mean no sharp edges for when kids try to lick it?
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  20. Is it called John Quincy Adding-Machine? by payndz · · Score: 2, Funny
    "He struck a chord with the voters when he pledged not to go on a killing spree."
    "But like most politicians, he promised more than he could deliver."

    Still, considering all the fuel-cell articles that have been on /. recently, maybe we really *will* have robots that run on alcohol!

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