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Linux Running on Xbox Without Modchip!

NiteStar writes "It looks like people on xbox-scene.com and xboxhacker.net managed to run Xbox-Linux on a non-modded Xbox console. It requires no soldering at all - you don't even have to open up the Xbox. They are using an exploit in the saved game handling of the EA xbox game '007 Agent Under Fire'. It requires the original version of the 007 game and a memorycard you can connect to PC like the mega-X-key or datel's action replay. Apparently you can even build this memorycard yourself using a standard USB memstick." Frankly it seems like just soldering in the modchip would be easy, but big points for being clever!

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  1. Perhaps a link to the source would be in order by Call+Me+Black+Cloud · · Score: 4, Informative


    Here's the announcement in a forum...

    1. Re:Perhaps a link to the source would be in order by Nogami_Saeko · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Lol... That forum is a good read...

      About 50 posts of "He's full of crap, there's no way he could make that work, there are dozens of people working on this smarter than he is".

      Followed by "Holy crap, it DOES work".

      Oddly enough, few of the original posters put up retractions or apoligies for their initial flaming.

      Figures... Everyone is "uber-l33t" and quick to jump on a new poster, but few are man enough to stand up and offer apologies when they're forced to eat their words.

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      "Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence." - Charles de Gaulle
  2. Theres no fricking way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Im buying an EA game, even if it does cure cancer.

  3. Knowing Microsoft's history by niom · · Score: 5, Funny

    you'd think they had already created every type of bug. Well, in colaboration with EA they've just developed a new type of bug: THE USEFUL BUG. Now where are all those bashers that say that Microsoft never invented anything new?

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    -- Repeat with me: "There is no right to profits".
    1. Re:Knowing Microsoft's history by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's not a bug, it's a feature!

  4. Free... by elcairo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Free as in '007 Agent Under Fire'!

  5. Very nice indeed by Crashmarik · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Its a real victory for everyone who feels that when you pay for something you own it, it doesn't own you.

  6. A bufferoverflow by rveno1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    ok all this is, is a buffer overflow exploit.

    a link to the code is:
    http://www.xbox-scene.com/007linux.txt
    it is uuencoded

    enjoy!

  7. Re:Okay and now on to some important things.. by vidnet · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Linux's battlefield isn't the XBox

    It's not a war. This project is just a good show of hacking spirit. Remember that this is how Linux got started in the first place.

  8. Re:Okay and now on to some important things.. by Omkar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1. Linux needs to be ubiquitous. Non-PC is not yet dominated by Windows, so if Linux gets established there, it could gradually take over the rest of the market. 2. MS loses money with each Xbox. If you could run Linux on a cheap, subsidized machine and create a Beowulf cluster (!) or something, then you're using your enemy to prosper -> good. 3. It's a hack. This is how Linux was created!

  9. Re:Okay and now on to some important things.. by timmyf2371 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Granted, the XBox doesn't make a great PC - it's fairly rigid in terms of hardware, with exception of the very important upgradable hard drive.

    With a Linux-based OS running on XBox, you have a machine capable of playing some great games, with a bit of work a PVR using Myth TV, and also a general entertainment center capable of playing music, DVDs, and the like - all in a box specifically designed for the TV room instead of a beige box.

    I'm pretty sure this is also Microsoft's vision, however making it Linux-based would give us the choice of operating system and the choice between paying .Net (or whatever they call it these days) subscriptions and paying a one-time fee (or not) for the brains of the system.

    Tim

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  10. Re:price money? by Lxy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When the Xbox is yesterday's game console and you can pick it up at the pawn shop for $50, you'll be happy that it can run linux unmodded.

    Now, the real test here would be benchmarking UT or Quake on the Xbox against the Walmart Microtel PC. Everyone's whining about how stupid this is, that you can buy a PC for the price of an Xbox, etc, let's see some numbers. The Microtel stuff isn't designed for gaming, the Xbox is. If I can haul ass on UT on the Xbox, it was worth it.

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    There is no reasonable defense against an idiot with an agenda
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  11. modchip easier? by ironfroggy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    And illegal. Don't be stupid, taco. The whole point of the non-mod xbox linux is that any other way is illegal in many places.

    1. Re:modchip easier? by LordKronos · · Score: 4, Interesting

      OK. So it needs a memory card that can connect to USB. This isn't a standard item. So instead of the modchip being the circumvention device, the USB memory card becomes one. Distributing the USB memory cards is now in violation of the DMCA.

      Of course, these memory cards seem more legit. They were created for a totally different purpose (supposedly, so are modchips, but the courts see through that argument). Perhaps these would at least stand a chance of being found legal. Then again, given how backwards this whole issue is in regards to the DMCA, I won't hold my breath.

  12. Everything you need for running linux unmodded by FristPr0st · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here is the website which has the 007 saved games, a movie file, and instructions. http://kotisivu.mtv3.fi/vilz/unmod/

  13. Re:Sounds like a DMCA violation by ReconRich · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Only if someone provides a "tool" for circumventing a copy protection device. In this case, no tool is being distributed (written instructions are NOT a tool, unless executable by a machine.) It is not prohibited to ACTUALLY circumvent copy protection devices (of course, unlicensed copying of copyrighted material is), just to provide the tools. I don't see the DMCA applying here, at all. Furthermore, an X-Box is largely like a Ramones CD; I can hit it with a hammer, let my neighbor borrow it, sell it on EBay, rip tracks (or chips) out of it (for my own use); Its only when I copy the music/software out of it and the distribute it that anybody has issues with it. And that's regular copyright law, not the DMCA.

    -- Rich

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  14. Re:Okay and now on to some important things.. by lpontiac · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Work on Transgaming, work on a driver interface that doesn't require a kernel rebuild each time you need to update your NIC, work on user experience,

    I'll work on whatever I bloody well want to, and so will everyone else.

  15. I Predicted This by Euphonious+Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Of course nobody modded it up, but I posted a plan for this approach back in February. I'm not claiming any credit, this guy did the work. Rather, everybody else should be embarrassed that they weren't working on it too.

    The next big advance will be somebody doing power consumption or timing analysis while the xbox is checking (bad) signatures, and teasing out the key a bit at a time. Then you will be able to sign anything you like. (Look up Markus Kuhn's papers.)

  16. I have a GOOD use for this by Psykechan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People are asking "Why Xbox Linux?" and others are responding with "Why not?", well I have a legitimate reason for wanting Linux on an unmodded Xbox.

    My Xbox is going back to MS as they have attempted to fix a problem several times and have so far been unsuccessful. This time, they're considering swapping systems for a new one, which I'm fine with except for one thing: Loss of saved games.

    They will not just swap drives as it would save them at least 5 minutes of work, so I will lose all of my info on the HD.

    With Linux running on my unmodded Xbox, I could possibly FTP the data elsewhere and restore it on the new system. This makes so much sense to me that I wonder why there is no way of doing it by default.

    Microsoft's idea is to purchase their Memory Units and backup this way. Problem is, since each Xbox comes with a hard drive, no developer tries to make the smallest possible size save file. I would need several MUs to backup my data. Plus, some files cannot even be copied to a MU which means they cannot be backed up at all.

    Some form of backup should exist to relieve this problem. I think that this could be it.