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Knoppix 3.2 Available

TheCrimsonUnbeliever writes "The latest version of Knoppix (bootable Linux distribution on CD) is out - New features include: KDE 3.1.1 - XFree86 4.3 - Evolution 1.2.1 - OpenOffice 1.0.2 - KOffice 1.2.1 - The ability to create a home directory on a memory stick or similar - More information is available at the KNOPPIX English homepage." If you're getting started with Knoppix (and speak English), you should also check out knoppix.net for the excellent forums hosted there.

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  1. Great! by CoolVibe · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've been waiting for this "ultimate sysadmin's bootdisk" to include kde 3.1.1. This iso saved my life several times already. Go get it! Go knoppix team!

    1. Re:Great! by suyashs · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yep, its a great system! I love the way that I don't have to rely on anybody's system configuration for my documents and information. Just pop in the disc and off I go!

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    2. Re:Great! by CoolVibe · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I tell ya, this thing is a live saver. It saved my ass in the colo the other day when a coworker decided to blow up /etc on a box. I was able to copy over the /etc tree from a working box across nfs, it saved the day.

      Sure there are other emergency rescue disks out there, but none of them are as complete as knoppix.

    3. Re:Great! by bucketoftruth · · Score: 3, Informative

      The best Sysadmin boot disk IMO is Toms RTBT. I use the enchilada cdrom iso myself. Very tight and no compatibility problems ever.

  2. Great job! by Blaine+Hilton · · Score: 5, Informative

    I am a big fan of Knoppix, "Linux on a CD" is a great idea. It's also a great tool to have for diagnostics when you can't load the regular O/S. I can't wait to try this new edition.

  3. Knoppix Rocks by PhatKat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This OS runs faster than my installation of windows and it runs entirely off 1 CD. So cool.

    1. Re:Knoppix Rocks by Sancho · · Score: 4, Informative

      Having run Knoppix on the same machine as Windows, I sincerely doubt that Knoppix actually runs faster than Windows (unless you are running in console mode, and it's hardly fair to compare that to any windowing environment). The sheer amount of swapping required in Knoppix is astounding, unless your system has 1gb+ of memory. And that's assuming a swap partition on your disk--something Knoppix doesn't require. Pulling everything from the cdrom (and then decompressing it) is an agonizingly slow process.

    2. Re:Knoppix Rocks by penguinboy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Speed must vary greatly from system to system, then. I use Knoppix from CD on the lab computers (P4 1.7, 128MB RAM, no swap partition) at school occasionally and it runs quite well for web browsing and photo-editing with the Gimp.

    3. Re:Knoppix Rocks by SirDaShadow · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I wish I had mod points today, this is FUD, FUD, BS, troll, whatever you name it. It's true that Knoppix is unable to open certain memory-hog apps without a swapfile but it's a far cry from being slow and even a farther cry from using 1GB. I have found 256MB without swapfile is more than adequate to run anything in Knoppix. If you have a machine with less than 256MB nowadays you prolly are an AOLuser. Happy swapping! :)

  4. Wonderful! by Badge+17 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Knoppix is just the thing that I've been looking for to convert friends and family to Linux - worked with several people.

    Does anyone know if this latest version still has the odd bug where XP systems seem to boot incorrectly? This has been the major obstacle to getting it accepted at school - still worries about it affecting the computers.

    1. Re:Wonderful! by Vermyndax · · Score: 3, Informative

      I've been using 3.2 for about a week or so now and haven't experienced any dual boot troubles with XP. The only thing to be aware of is that you will have to correct your lilo.conf to add the Windows XP partition back in after installing Knoppix to the hard drive...

  5. Re:Home dir on memory stick? by twiztidlojik · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's similar to having all your my documents, desktop etc in one folder. This folder happens to reside on a memory stick instead of C:\documents and settings\yournamehere.

    Or something like that. Feel free to flame & berate me at will.

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  6. Does it come... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    with a large selection of fake Windows login screens, so I can reboot a public computer with this disc and collect a few login/password pairs?

  7. english? by jfroot · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you're getting started with Knoppix (and speak English), you should also check out knoppix.net for the excellent forums hosted there.

    I think one can assume english is spoken if you're reading an english web site.

    1. Re:english? by concatenation · · Score: 5, Funny

      Apua! Missä minä olen?! :-(

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    2. Re:english? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Apua! Missä minä olen?!

      This translates to "Help! Where am I?!" for those whose grasp of the Finnish language is less than perfect.

  8. Re:Home dir on memory stick? by TheCrimsonUnbeliever · · Score: 3, Informative

    On linux /home/[you] is where all of your settings are saved (for you logged in as [you])

    In many systems it is the only area that is writeable for you as a normal user (not running in admin mode)

    For KNOPPIX - this means that all your settings will be carried around with you - But not all of your hardware condiguration - So you will be booting into 'your' desktop everywhere you go

    All I need now is a supported stick

  9. default language by Kircle · · Score: 4, Informative

    make sure you get the latest version of 3.2 and not, say for example, the one from v3.2-3-21-2003. they changed the default language from german back to english...

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  10. Knoppix is great by ctid · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is just another testimonial for Knoppix. Quite apart from all the other nice things people are saying about it, when I plug in my NEX IIe MP3 player, Knoppix recognizes it straightaway and places a link to its filesystem on the desktop!

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  11. Re:Home dir on memory stick? by c0dedude · · Score: 4, Informative

    To claify, say you want file winfix. It's not included on the Knoppix distro, so you make a USB memory stick with you home directory. You'd put winfix on that stick, and it'd register at boottime, and when it was fully loaded, your winfix file from the stick would be in /home/$yourname/, easily accessable. It's because 1. you can't write to a CD-R (duh) and 2. any files you create would be stored on a ramdrive, unless you acessed the hard drive, in which case they would be stored locally on that one box. Storing files on a USB memory stick allows you to keep all your knoppix tools and stuff togather. I hope this helps to clear things up.

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  12. Downloaded yesterday by perotbot · · Score: 5, Informative

    Got it, burned it, loved it. Easiest way to install Debian on x86. They put alot of thought in it. One lesser known feature is that it detects wlans and automatically configures the cards to access it. (provided that there is no WEP installed) so it works great at Starbucks....Latte and linux!

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  13. Re:Main OS of a computer by perotbot · · Score: 3, Informative

    couldn't be easier, CTRL-ALT-F1 to get the root console and knx-hdinstall to run the installer, setup the disk with cfdisk and then it copies away, 4 config questions, done.

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  14. Knoppix as an installer :) by timothy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Joe Barr wrote a good piece about this; I'm still burning my Knoppix 3.2, but I can testify that what he wrote here is a good guide for the previous versions and I'm guessing will be applicable to the new one.

    (Upshot: there's a script called something like "knxhdinstall" which leads you through formatting hard drive etc, then transfers the Knoppix base OS and included apps. Previous Linux experience strongly recommended, but it's certainly easier than going in with zero experience with, say, regular Debian :))

    I have used Knoppix as an installer for several machines; that's one reason I keep extra desktops around, for playing with different distros as we asymptotically approach The (mythical) Perfect OS.

    It works well, but there are some glitches: with some versions of Knoppix, the hard-drive install method seems to jump between English version and German version, doesn't matter that I had the EN iso, doesn't matter that the system seemed otherwise localized to English ... However, I am optimistic that this is no longer a problem with the new one :) (And my German is good enough that I could get through the German screens, so it *did work* it was just ... worrisome :)). And that was a glitch -- I forget which ISO had the German jumping, but I downloaded another one afterward (the next rev) and it worked fine.

    As a perpetual fumbler, this is the only way I have gotten Debian working well, and it was quick n' easy. Knopper deserves the computing version of the Nobel for this :)

    timothy

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  15. Re:Can I use to try Linux? by Gyorg_Lavode · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yes, Knoppix will run without messing with your hard drive. You stick it in the cd-rom drive, it creates any directories that have to be writable into ram, and you can work on the computer without use of the hard drive. (This is why it is so well loved by people who continuiously have to fix computers.)

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  16. Anyone know when KnoppixKDE will be out? by pschmied · · Score: 4, Informative

    For those who haven't tried the KnoppixKDE edition, it's great. Last I heard, the developer of this Knoppix remaster was working on a new version. Does anyone know if it is nearing completion?

    KnoppixKDE doesn't have all the software that the full Knoppix distro has, but I generally find it to be a little more comfortable and much more unified.

    The only thing that was missing (I think) in the last version was Scribus. Scribus is a QT app that comes with Knoppix that looks like it may eventually be a good alternative to Pagemaker and perhaps QuarkExpress or InDesign. It's got a ways to go, but it's already quite useable for simple layout.

    -Peter

  17. How about a CDRW? by pherthyl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What if you had Knoppix on a CDRW? Would it be somehow possible to channel disk writes through a cd burning tool and save all your files directly to the cd?

    Space would be at a premium I imagine but if you deleted some of the apps you dont use.... Now THAT would be pretty amazing.

  18. Check out Morphix ! by IIEFreeMan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Knoppix is great but it's quite monolithic. Morphix is Knoppix-based (with the same great hardware detection) but it is based on modules so you can customize your ISO very easily. For exemple there is a Gnome module, A KDE module, A light GUI module (with ICEwm) and so forth ...

    It's also nice because it's a clean Debian unstable whereas Knoppix was (i don't know about 3.2) based on a mix of stable/unstable packages.

  19. You're missing the point of using Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Windows 2k/XP requires you to press ctrl+alt+del to prevent someone from doing this with a Windows app.

  20. Re:Somebody hang Tomothy by his toenails by CvD · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Someone should put it on Kazaa or eDonkey or somesuch. These distributed, multisource p2p apps are perfect for stuff like this.

    Cheers,

    Costyn.

  21. Re:Which version? by ctid · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yep. That's the one you want. The 21st March -EN version had German as the default language!

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  22. Great! I'm buying a USB memory key today! by aquarian · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've been waiting for this "persistent home" version of Knoppix to appear. Now when I travel I may even be able to leave my laptop behind -- all I need is a Knoppix CD, and a USB memory key.

  23. Speed... by aquarian · · Score: 4, Informative

    One thing that really surprised me was how fast Knoppix runs. Compared to the other distros I've had on my laptop (Redhat and Mandrake), Knoppix screams. The others were noticeably slower than Windows, while Knoppix is at least on par, maybe faster. Of course it's a little slow loading applications from a CD, but otherwise it's a screamer.

    The boot speed is incredible, especially considering all the hardware detection it's doing. I'm up and running in about 30 seconds. Win2k takes at least 3-4 minutes, every time.

    I've had little experience with Debian. People say it's faster, and now I see they're not kidding.

  24. Demo mode in other distros ? by InodoroPereyra · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I just wonder why is it that other distros don't follow the trend, use some of knoppix' technology and add a demo mode to their installers. People could boot off the CD, see a demo, and if they like it and their hardware gets successfully detected they can go ahead and install on the disk. If I remember correctly SuSE was doing it ? How about Mandrake and RedHat ? Are they going to catch up on this one ? It looks like the way to go !

  25. Just like AOL trial cds.... by pr0c · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Although i've said this many times before when its come up... I give these things out like AOL trial cds! Whenever a new version of knoppix comes out i burn about 10 copies and hand them out to co-workers, friends and family. I give a very brief explanation of what it is and and I offer support.

    I have sucsessfully switched only a few people over (they both dual boot and only use windows if needed) but if we all got a few people switched over .... think about that :P

  26. It works for Gentoo, as well by Mitchell+Mebane · · Score: 3, Informative

    Granted, it's not quite the same league as using Knoppix as a Debian installer, but you can use Knoppix to install Gentoo Linux as well, so you can actually use your PC while compiling stuff, instead of having it useless for a couple of days. Pretty sweet, I must say.

    See here for details.

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    1. Re:It works for Gentoo, as well by yokem_55 · · Score: 3, Informative

      The only catch with this though is that unless you have a lot of memory, or doing a stage3 install, the bootstrap and emerge system will a little longer because of less available memory. Otherwise it works really, really well, especially since the laptop network card support on the gentoo live cd's is somewhat incomplete.

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  27. Re:Advice for Nero Users by allolex · · Score: 3, Informative

    Many use Nero with no problems... many however do have problems.

    The Knoppix developers have some documentation on how to burn Knoppix CDs with Nero.

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