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Photographer Fired For Digitally Altering Photo

bewert writes "A sign of things to come? Is this kind of thing happening without anyone catching it? This short article notes that war photog Brian Walski was fired for combining elements from two photos to make one with 'better composition'. Here is the 'Editor's Note' detailing the transgression. It's not really highlighted on their front page ;) I wonder how often this type of Photoshopping is done without anyone noticing it? To paraphrase Pink Floyd, "Mother, should I trust the government?"..." Another submitter points out an article examining digitally altered magazine covers. Slashdot has done several stories on unnoticeable digital alterations; here's 1, 2, 3 old stories to peruse.

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  1. What's the big deal? by ChaoticChaos · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Gee, I saw the 3 photographs and really don't see what the big deal is.

    I can see firing the photographer if he was trying to make something appear to have happened that didn't. That's not the case here. The original and re-touched photograph are conveying the same thing. This is a tempest in a teapot.

    I bet that famous photo of the sailor swapping spit with that woman after the war was over was probably Photoshopped too! I bet he was smelling his arm and they inserted her into the scene. ;-)

    1. Re:What's the big deal? by johnnyb · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The point is that _anything_ doctored cannot be considered news. If that became standard practice it would be so easy to abuse.

      Pictures are taken as evidence to be an exact representation of what they are looking at. If you can't trust pictures in a newspaper or magazine, you can't trust the newspaper or magazine, period.

      This was definitely the right decision.

    2. Re:What's the big deal? by YetAnotherAnonymousC · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's a slippery slope. Once it's OK to alter photos as long as you preserve the "theme," all that's left is for a newspaper with a deluded idea of the "theme" of a photo to seriously alter a photo's contents. This already happens all the time with quotations being taken out of context and having phrases parenthetised for "clarity".

    3. Re:What's the big deal? by gradius3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's called journalistic integrity. There is no difference between making something less real and pulling something out of your butt. More importantly, how would you like it if someone won a Pulitzer prize for a photograph that was slightly doctored because their Photoshop skills were superior? (Or worse, you got beat to someone who altered their photo?)

    4. Re:What's the big deal? by rgmoore · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I strongly disagree for two reasons. One is that the paper already had a stated policy of no alterations, period. Once that policy has been adopted, they have to follow it. Two is that they chose the right policy. There has to be a bright, obvious line between what is allowable and what isn't. If you let a photographer alter things for artistic effect then somebody has to sit there and decide in each case whether the changes are just artistic or if they've distorted the truth. Only by having an objective standard of no alterations at all can you avoid that problem.

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    5. Re:What's the big deal? by morcheeba · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In one picture, the soldier is waving his hand and the guy with the baby is ignoring him; in the touched up one, the baby-carrier is looking at the soldier. That's a significant difference - what is this soldier doing, and is he getting any respect? In the first picture, it looks like his hand is up just to counter-balance himself as he's walking. In the composite, it looks like he's waving at people and they are dutifully following his orders.

      I was the main non-sports fotographer for a newspaper in college & talked with my editor about this. Sure, you can digitally take out something as simple as a fence that's blocking a view, but then that implies that there is no fence to block the view (and thus no security/privacy barrier). And that's not the truth.

      So, I agree with the editors here. No manipulation should be tolerated at all. The covers of magazines are different, though (and legally recogonized as different, too) - they serve as an attraction to buy the magazine, and not news reporting.

    6. Re:What's the big deal? by FatRatBastard · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I bet some of the cameras being used by the photographers don't have "red eye" reduction....

      C'mon folks, let's look at this more critically.


      Ok... red eye reduction removes something that wasn't there originally. Unless the person you took a photograph has bright red eyes you are removing something that the camera artifically inserted into the image. The same goes with removing lense flair, colour balance correction, etc. This is *totally* different than manipulating the image by adding or subtracting content.

    7. Re:What's the big deal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      "Your honor, prosecution presents exhibit A. We took the liberty of touching up this photo.

      If I'm on the jury, I would automatically acquit at that point.

      Of course, that would weed me out of jury selection, right there.

    8. Re:What's the big deal? by unitron · · Score: 2, Insightful
      "If I'm on the jury, I would automatically acquit at that point."

      In a real court, you wouldn't get the chance. The judge would either declare a mistrial or dismiss the charges, either with or without prejudice. Probably with.

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    9. Re:What's the big deal? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Who cares? The entire idea of an objective media is completely at odds with reality, and incidents like these merely serve to trumpet the media's own idea of itself. What the photographer did was entirely reasonable, however the media likes to pretend that they'd never show a doctored photograph, with the ridiculous conclusion that if photodoctoring was done often they'd eventually show a picture of George Bush shaking hands with Hitler someday.

      Look, either you trust your media outlet, or you don't. If you trust them, it's OK to retouch meaningless pictures with a bit of photoshop. If you don't, photo doctoring doesn't make a bit of a difference. This whole story just makes everyone briefly question their trust of the media, and of course the media uses its powers to immediately crush any question by firing the footsoldier who pulled the trigger.

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  2. Basic concept of news reporting by Gorbie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If this were an artistic piece for a magazine, no problem. Hair on Christie Brinkley's upper lip, no problem.

    A war photo that is altered so the depiction is inaccurate is unacceptable on any scale. There is not concrete place you can draw a line and say "this much alteration is okay, but this much changes the story".

    News commentary can be editorialized by any anchor. Pictures and video have alway been held in higher standing for thier direct integrity. This will rais equestions.

    1. Re:Basic concept of news reporting by isomeme · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The odd thing is that all photographs we see in print or on major media outlets are altered. Either in the darkroom or using a computer, photographs are routinely cropped, retinted, lightened or darkened, and otherwise manipulated to make them easier or more pleasing to view.

      Some will argue that this is qualitatively different from rearranging content in the photograph, but the line is actually rather vague. For example, if you show someone aiming a gun, but crop out the target they were aiming at, the nature of the image changes. If you manipulate light and dark areas to minimize or emphasize the size of a crowd, ditto. Yet this sort of manipulation is almost as old as the camera (and certainly extends back into painting and drawing, which are of course far more subjective).

      So the real issue is where to draw the line, given that image manipulation is happening all the time.

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    2. Re:Basic concept of news reporting by leery · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Pictures and video have alway been held in higher standing for thier direct integrity."

      They shouldn't be. Retouching aside, all photographs editorialize: by including or excluding elements and context (both space and time), distorting perspective, and otherwise presenting an isolated instant from a specific point of view. Even simple choices like using black and white or color film, telephoto or wideangle lens, distort reality and affect how the event is perceived.

      We should be even more vigilant against this kind of manipulation, whether or not it is intentional, because it happens on a more visceral and gestalt level than mere words.

      Obvious example: if instead of the picture in question, the LA Times had run a picture of a pile of burnt corpses, it would have set a different tone for the day's news before we even started reading the stories. Subtle example: i saw a TV correspondent report in from a Washington briefing room with the American flag dominating the background of the frame, a la Presidential speeches. This was an editorial decision that implies things beyond the scope of mere reporting.

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    3. Re:Basic concept of news reporting by Gorbie · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You are nit-picking wording. The photographer altered the content.

      Nobody recognizes adding a sharpening filter as "alteration". It is enhancement. Getting rid of CCD artifacts does not change the content of the photo.

      Enhancing the lighting/brightness/sharpness of a photo is entirely necessary in the print world. The is especially true in newsprint. You could not print a photo without some enhancement, because the colorspace that digital imaging devices use is not a printable colorspace..

    4. Re:Basic concept of news reporting by Anonym0us+Cow+Herd · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Your argument seems to boil down the the idea that a manipulated photograph may not be deceptive. It may communicate what had actually happened. Especially in the case, where the photo happened, but you just didn't get it captured correctly in one shot.

      But as others here have argued, where is the line to be drawn? So who's judgement call is it whether an altered photograph is manufacturing the news? Where does the slippery slope end? It's not that your arguments are bad ones.

      By having a policy of allowing digitally altered photos, I now have to wonder how real any photo is from news organization X. Not only do I have to pay attention for whatever their particular bias is (and all news has a bias); but now I have to wonder about every single image I see. Now I can't trust what I read, nor what I can even see.

      Next, let's have altered video clips. If I couldn't get the shot quite correct, let's reproduce "reality" in a Hollywood studio set. It will turn out on 70 mm film much better than the reporter's video camera anyway.

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  3. huh? by Bobman1235 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    to paraphrase Pink Floyd, "Mother, should I trust the government?

    While I respect your taste in music -- HUH? The guy was an LA Times photographer. Nowhere does he state that he has any affiliation with the government. The modification in question does not actually change much in the photo (I do NOT deny that it is wrong, just stating that it is not in any way propoganda IN THIS CASE). Don't blame the government for EVERYTHING.

    In other news, Kudos to the times for catching the guy, and also for admitting and publishing the "error."

    1. Re:huh? by k3v0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      i dont think the government was what was meant. if it was truly a paraphrase, the editor should have said "mother can I trust the corporately funded news media outlet to give the truth regardless of whether or not they doctor the photos"

    2. Re:huh? by Matt+-+Duke+'05 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Right, the original poster was just pandering to the mindless slashbots who see anything negative or the least bit suspicious as a part of a conspiracy by the RIAA/MPAA/Microsoft/Federal Government to outlaw Linux, kill babies, and enslave the world. What's nice about it this time is that for once, the little snide commentary comes in italics, as part of the posters words. Nine times our of ten, similarly paranoid remarks appear as the EDITOR's words. If you believe that this LA Times reporter violated his committment to journalistic integrity and OBJECTIVITY by using these photos, I suggest you take a closer look at Slashdot itself. The spin that gets put on the articles is just absolutely ridiculous.

      On a side note... you might find it interesting to note that the United States Department of Defense wrote a memo entitled "An Assessment of International Legal Issues in Information Operations." Basically, the paper is a review of information warfare tactics, and an analysis of whether or not some aspects of information warfare violate the Geneva Convention and other international treaties regarding the rules of war. The report concludes that, "Similarly, it might be possible to use computer 'morphing' techniques to create an image of the enemy's chief of state informing his troops that an armistice or cease-fire agreement had been signed. If false, this would also be a war crime."

      So, despite the fact that the government had absolutely NOTHING whatsoever to do with this story, even if they did, the government cannot digitally alter wartime photos because it violates the Geneva Convention. Granted, there are other things that one might be inclined NOT to trust the government for, but this is NOT one of them. Please move along...

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    3. Re:huh? by Wannabe+Code+Monkey · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So, despite the fact that the government had absolutely NOTHING whatsoever to do with this story, even if they did, the government cannot digitally alter wartime photos because it violates the Geneva Convention. Granted, there are other things that one might be inclined NOT to trust the government for, but this is NOT one of them. Please move along...

      Do you seriously believe that the current administration cares at all about international treaties and conventions? Just look at the treaties we've pulled out of so far.

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    4. Re:huh? by Snaller · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So, despite the fact that the government had absolutely NOTHING whatsoever to do with this story, even if they did, the government cannot digitally alter wartime photos because it violates the Geneva Convention

      Which only means that they'll declared the Geneva Convetion unapplicable and dot it anyway.

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  4. Altering news photos is like changing the facts... by PhantomHarlock · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Altering the substantive content of news photos is like altering the facts in the story, and is a journalistic no-no. Small corrections for contrast and minor dodging and burning are acceptable (an example of what I think is not acceptable is when that image of O.J. Simpson was burned out to make him look really evil on that magazine cover...)

    Photography is already biased enough depending on what you LEAVE OUT of the photo, or how you juxtapose certain elements, or use telephoto to change the size-distance ratio of objects. Use a long enough lens, and it looks like the kid running across the street is about to be bowled over by the tank, when in fact the tank is a block away.


    Anything other than news photos and it's fair game.

  5. Why this is a big deal by divide+overflow · · Score: 5, Insightful


    Yes, the modifications were mostly compositional, but there is a *very good reason* for the L.A. Times banning the alteration of photos: because once you do it, the only difference between minor compositional alterations and ones that change the content in more significant ways is *just a matter of degree*. In other words, once you cross that threshold, the amount of alteration or significance of the alteration that is permissible is only a matter of judgement, a moving line in the sand. Banning such alteration of photographs outright shows good judgement by the publisher and demonstrates their commitment against the falsification of photographic evidence.

    Of course, this does nothing to prevent completely staged photographs, but at least it's something.

  6. Re:What will O'Reilly say? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm from Canada and don't get Fox News. I've rarely had a chance to hear or see Bill O'Reilly but on the few times I have, he's come across as a pompous ass - the type of smart guy who's just slightly more intelligent than the norm but closed to the possibility that there are many more people smarter than him. I remember seeing him in a "debate" and he seemed to think that the best way to win it was by stifling any opportunity for the other side to get a word in. I also got a chance to watch Fox News while on vacation and it was a laugh. It was so blatantly tabloid-ish that it was actually humourous. So my question is, why do so many Americans seem to treat O'Reilly like he's an intellectual genius and Fox like it's a suitable replacement for PBS?

  7. Impermissible by mtcrowe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think the real problem with the unannounced altering of photos is that it has the ability to alter the meaning of a situation. I'm somewhat amazed at any discussion that argues that this is alright to do in any way, such as when the alteration does not change the fundamental nature of the shot.

    The danger in allowing such discussion to breed is that it opens photographs to subjectivity. The editors alter photos to make them more dramatic, create more of an impact. But they are forging an image that did not exist in reality!

    Altering photographs without providing a notice to the viewers allows the editors to become part of the story, enhancing and molding it, providing their own subliminal opinion, rather than reporting on it and allowing the reader to make up their own judgement. It's my opinion that media opinion and prejudice is already pervasive in news reporting worldwide, not just in the U.S. media.

    We do not need any more opinions in our news, especially when those opinions are disguised as fact. If the situation wasn't dramatic enough, then it doesn't deserve to be 'pumped up' for our modern senses.

  8. Touched up photos by Restil · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Almost all commercial photography is touched up in some way. Almost any stripmall photography place will touch up photographs to remove skin blemishes and artifacts in the picture, for a price. However, there is a big difference between altering a model pose where you're buying the perfect look, and a news photo where you're buying (supposively) unbiased fact.

    A local newspaper had a similar problem with this a few years back. They were doing a story on teenage drug use in schools and used as a picture, the photograph of a girl bent over into her locker, snorting something. The photograph was a posed one, and was identified as such in the fine print of the article, but enough people got outraged, thinking that it was so prevalant that a roving news crew was able to catch such an event, taking place so casually. This gave the impression of the problem seeming worse than it actually was.

    However, for news organizations, if they're going to modify images, make it obvious. Nobody gets upset about a collage mix of multiple images to represent a theme. But if the resulting image is represented as a single snapshot in time, you start to cross ethical boundaries.

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  9. Re:What will O'Reilly say? by bballad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Rember O'Reilly made his name on inside edition, a tabloid news program. This is why Fox another tabloid news outlet loves him. No one thinks hes a intellectual hes just the clown of the moment, and any one watching Fox news has probably never heard of PBS let alone watched it.

  10. The big deal is journalistic integrity by doublem · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As a former journalism student and someone who has been in print a few times in High School and College, I think I can say what part of the Big Deal is.

    Journalism is supposed to be accurate and unbiased. In practice this rarely happens, but the theory is there. The paper has a policy forbidding the modifying of photos, and they enforce it.

    It's similar to the honor code many schools use. Cheating only hurts the student in the long run, but it can still get them kicked out of the school.

    The point is the moral and ethical code. Journalists have a moral imperative to report the truth, and any modification, any stretching of the truth is a step down a slippery slope towards outright lies and falsehoods.

    The photographer was fired for good reason. A modified photo is fine as a piece of "art" but as journalism it brings the entire publication's integrity and honesty into question.

    I could go on, but my hope is that the majority of the people reading this thread realize that what the photographer did was a violation. It's not like photoshopping a playboy shoot to remove a pimple. This is falsifying the news. It's a small fake, a minor tweak, but it's still presenting falsehood as reality.

    And before you make a wise ass reply about the fallacy of journalistic integrity in the real world, keep in mind, I did say "In practice this rarely happens".

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  11. Re:What will O'Reilly say? by jd142 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If anything, the altered photo is propaganda for the military, not those opposing the war. The real picture on the right shows a soldier seemingly pointing a machine gun of some kind at a man carrying a young child. The real picture on the left shows the gun pointing over the heads of people sitting down but also shows the soldier motioning the man with child to sit down just as the man starts to stand up or approach the soldier. The fake picture shows him motioning the man (now standing with child in arms) to sit down; the gun is pointed away from the child and the soldier is motioning the man to sit down.

    If they had used the real photo on the right, it would be a picture of an American soldier pointing a gun at a man carrying his child. It is vaguely reminiscent of the photo of the guy pointing a gun at Elian Gonzales when the took him from Florida in the sense that it shows one of our boys pointing a gun at a young child.

    The altered photo shows the soldier slightly more relaxed, the gun isn't pointed at anyone and the child is not in immediate harm at all.

    It is subtle, I'll grant you that, but the original could have been much better propaganda for the anti-war crowd.

  12. Re:What will O'Reilly say? by Lord+Ender · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If the gun were pointing at the man and kid, you would be seeing the back end of it, not the side. Guns can't shoot out of the side. Just letting you know. Neither picture has the gun pointed at anyone.

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  13. Re:What will O'Reilly say? by Rolo+Tomasi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The soldier also appears larger and more prominent in the altered photo. In the first original it looks like the Iraqis don't listen or maybe disobey him. The altered photo OTOH shows the soldier more "in control". Pretty subtle really, but it changes the mood of the picture. I wonder what the motivation of the photographer was.

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  14. Give me scissors, I'll give you the news by anonymous+cupboard · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I'm sorry, but a photo doesn't meen that much. Where I put the photo with regards to an apparently unrelated headline or another photo can slant the news.

    Sorry, a photograph, as in silver nitrate can be manipulated in the dark-room so why is anyone suprised about digital manipulation. The only difference is the process is faster and less smelly.

    As regards journalisitic integrity, I'm sorry but there is none. Most journalists give the reports that their employers want, i.e. "Is there anyone here who has been raped who speaks English?". Of course they only tell the truth but it is a keyhole view of the truth. Both the original photo and the presentation can change the perceived meaning 100%.

  15. in case any one is confused by zogger · · Score: 2, Insightful

    --maybe not, but just in case, this is for the people here in other countries who might think it's all lock step goose steppers here based on those phony polls they run. I'm a "constitutionalist" now, well, call myself that, because those goons running the political show have sullied the term "conservative", I have been one for 4 decades (close) now, the difference is, I don't believe in murder, theft and crooked international business intrigue as a means to an end like the goons are doing now. Bill O'Reilly and goofballs like Michael Savage and gasbag Rush to psyops Limbaugh aren't real classic american conservatives. They are dangerous huckstering fascists, big time wrestling comes to news and commentary, paid off goons. They are part of whipping up the war and "terror" hysteria now in anticipation of the creation of the new Brownshirts, version 2.0., to go along with Patriot Act and Homeland Security and whatnot.

    It's a junta, so I'll just call it that. Junta. And the brownshirts are coming, inevitable now.

    The new (sorta) term for them is "neoconservative". That is too polite a term, IMO. I prefer fascist goons. Lying Thugs is good too. Real US conservatives are much more inclined to be isolationists/non interventionists when it comes to foreign military adventures, it's just now, with neocon fascists "in power" in the administration, they have hijacked the term "conservative". And there's a large percentage of the population, not a majority by any means but still large, who don't have much public voice, but are both conservative, patriotic, non war mongering, and aren't faked out by those goons, they just aren't in any leadership positions in the R party because they aren't crooks, and they certainly are in the minority in the mainstream US broadcast media, which now is a blend of neocon and naieve-brand liberalism. Sad but true. There is no "classical" Liberalism (which is a decent philosophy, more similar to what is called Libertarianism now) nor Old Fashioned conservatism or "paleoconservativism" (again, decent, different but still decent, tending to more protectionism,less "foreign entanglements", much smaller government, etc) represented, except mostly on the net and on shortwave and on forums.

    With that said,politics aside, the photo altering story is a good headsup, along with the news anchors using phony backdrops and other sorts of digital altering techniques. Remember the bushgoon puppet-in-chief in front of the phony backdrop painted to look like "made in america" crates of product? That was another photo/video propaganda psyops move. I imagine some arabic sites and europaen sites are doing similar, too, it's just too easy to fake stuff now.

    What's the quote? "In war, the truth is the first victim"

    The photos are starting to be fake, the text has been highly altered and spun, constantly. All you need to do is use google news, pick any breaking story, look at a half dozen different versions of it from around the world. Altering just a few words and adding in a few choice trigger buzz words can spin the same exact story in several different directions. Example, this works both ways, from either side, just some examples on how this war gets reported: The "enemy" doesn't have "soldiers" they have "terrorists". The "badguys" are cheating and doing sneaky things that are "warcrimes", the "good guys" use special operations or commando techniques and pull off "specatacular and brave and daring raids".

    And stuff like that there.

    When I am reading the "war news" now, I take the very highs and the very lows from all the sources, and throw them away, then average the middle, that is most likely the closest to any sort of "truth" being reported.

  16. Re:Here is a quick image analysis quiz by dmeranda · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The second one (without the boy) is obviously faked, and rather poorly. Some obvious indications:

    Look at the grassline underneath the tank. See the regular vertical bands on the concrete wall just above the grass and below the tank. Those lines fall in direct line with both the blocky pattern of the grass as well as small brighter higlights on the underneath side of the tank (look closely). Obviously stamping the same pattern across the image, but the stamp includes the grass, the wall, and part of the tank; a dead giveaway.

    On the front edge of the tank where the transition is to the underneath side there is a row of attached square reactive plate armor. Notice that above each is what looks like a horizontal hinge. Now on the second image those plates which fall behind where the boy should be have no attachment "hinge". And there are two out of place half-width plates where all other plates are more nearly square. Also the center outer block is missing...it would seem a lot easier to take this out than to put it in.

    Now look at the ground which lies behind where the boy's legs would be. There is a very definite line-pattern there that looks sort of like tread marks, but is too regular. It certainly doesn't match the texture of the rest of the dirt. Also at the angle in which the light is shining any horizontal tread marks, if there, should be pratically invisible. And you can also see the same block repeated several times...way to regular to be real.

    As for the first image, it's not as clearly a fake as the second. But there are small indications which look like some attempt was made to burn (lighten) parts of the tank underside, perhaps to provide more contrast? As another reader pointed out, the boy's empty hand has an unusual lightness to it as if a brush was swiped across it. Also the darker halo around the boy traces his outline fairly well, but especially under his armpit there is a clear circular curve where you can almost tell the exact brush size that had been used. Of course film optics can also produce this halo-like effect in certain light, so it's not clear cut.

    Of course this begs the question (if my analysis is correct), the second image where the boy was removed is definitely unethical for news reports. But is it unethical to do minor corrections such as white balancing, darking or lightening incorrect exposures, etc as maybe was been done to the first?

  17. Re:Overreacting by VB · · Score: 2, Insightful


    A picture within a news publication is news. Within the context of fact-reporting journalism, we should be able to expect that all representations are factual and undoctored. Outside of that realm (in artistic / and other subjective contexts), we know we can't have that expectation.

    There are already some very subjective elements in news reporting and it doesn't build our diminishing trust in the media when we can no longer expect images to be accurate and undoctored.

    It wouldn't upset my news gathering experience in the least if "MS"NBC, CNN, ABC, Fox, Al Jazeera, and the rest of their ilk would just cut all the adjectives from their stories completely and leave me with facts; objective reporting. It would take less time to get caught up on current events, and let me come to my own conclusions about how I feel about what's being reported.

    I agree that in this case, the changes are pretty trivial and that firing the reporter is pretty extreme, but anything not altered from it's original visual depiction is still not fact. People are probably overreacting because there's so damn much spin in our world these days...

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  18. Re:What will O'Reilly say? by BrodieBruce · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Despite a tremendous expenditure of willpower, I just can't bring myself to give a damn what Bill O'Reilly thinks.


    Yeah, but what worries me is the large number of people who forget to take a grain of salt with whatever zany conspiracies they hear newscasters speak of on tv. Especially here in the US where so many people just think if something was said on CNN/Fox News/etc then it must be true.

  19. Re:Here is a quick image analysis quiz by srn_test · · Score: 2, Insightful

    See http://king.fn.com.au/~srn/tank_diff.jpg one image minus the other. There's clearly been some work done around the boy, which indicates he was removed and some blending done to cover the gap.

    The shadows around his feet (of him) are unchanged in the shot without him, which implies also that he was in the original shot.