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Advice for a Dad-To-Be?

chrysrobyn asks: "Huzzah! After a few years of trying, my wife is pregnant (due 5 November). I've read about fellow Slashdot readers who are some new and experienced parents. I've certainly read about lots of people getting engaged and married. I'd like to ask for advice on the matter from people in my demographic. What do you wish you had known before child #1 was born? I'm not asking 'how does a geek raise a child?' or 'how do I overclock the activity sets?', but I don't personally know many two income families who are in this position. We sometimes work long hours, and that will either come to an end or we'll put in lots of effort to work around that. What do I do? What do I expect? Are there any products to stay away from? I'm going to be a dad!" Congratulations, on your new family member, chrysrobyn!

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  1. Three pieces of advice... by burnsy · · Score: 5, Informative

    1) Do not tell anyone you are pregnant until 12-15 weeks. Miscarriages are quite common and you will feel horrible if it doesn't work out.

    2) Do not tell your friends/family the sex or the name of the baby until he/she is born. If you tell everyone these details upfront, there is much less suprise and interest when the sepcial day finally comes. I have had 2 sets of friends who were told the wrong sex (it is never exact unless you have genetic testing) and boy were they red faced (and stuck with the wrong clothing and no name).

    3) Buy a PVR or a TiVo if you ever want to watch TV again. PVR's are a new parents best friends.

    1. Re:Three pieces of advice... by Darnit · · Score: 2, Informative

      I totally agree with 3. It only gets worse as they get older. Tivo also works wonderfully now with my 15 month old for taping Clifford the Big Red Dog and Caillou and Teletubbies.

    2. Re:Three pieces of advice... by LordNimon · · Score: 2, Informative
      I vouch for #3 also. If it weren't for my TiVo, we probably would never be able to watch anything. Generally, you won't be able to watch TV while the baby is awake, because it will demand too much attention. Our daughter likes to shriek while the TV. Press pause, she stops shrieking. Press play, she starts again.

      Also, make sure your wife breast feeds for a year.

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    3. Re:Three pieces of advice... by gi-tux · · Score: 2, Informative

      You might as well get started now. Dora, Little Bill, Clifford the big red dog, Blues Clues, etc. are the ones to steer the kid toward. Unfortunately Mr. Rogers died recently, but he is still in reruns and he was/is one of the better ones. Try your best to stay clear of Barney, however he does for some reason have a soothing affect on children, but please for your own sanity save him as an absolute last resort.

      Your most frequented resturant in the near future will be McDonald's. Forget anything where the food has any real taste. Toys are more important than the actual food when you go out to eat. The playground also is important.

      Driving is also important. That is when your child will sleep. Unfortunately, you can't sleep and drive at the same time, so you and your wife will have to take shifts. This means that child number 2 is much more difficult to achieve.

      Seriously, children are great and it gives you a chance to play with all the new TOYS!!! Gi-Joe, Barbie, Legos, Erector sets, etc.

      Congratulations!!!!

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  2. things to consider... by StillDocked · · Score: 5, Informative

    gratz, first of all...

    My partner and I had our first child 7 months ago, and it has been wonderful, we, like you are yours, both worked long hours and made a choice, luckily, my employer has allowed me a flexible schedule (nights and weekendss for a couple of years) so that I can stay home with our child. If the possibilty of one of you staying home does not exist, and you do not have a trusted friend or family member to look after your child, and thereby witness a ton of firsts, you need to start looking now for a day care provider. Pimp friends and family for recommendations, check with the local child and family services organization regarding the recommendations, and then do two visits, on announced, and then one not announced, so you get a feel of the places.

    Secondly, baby monitors can wreck havoc upon wifi systems, even if they aren't in the same frequency range. Don't ask me how, I have stopped trying to figure it out. We only use the monitor when it is necessary.

    If you are working while watching your child, be prepared to work in 15 minute spurts, and choose tasks that you can leave undone and go back to. Your child may be wonderful in this regard, mine is happily playing away in his exer-saucer while I am doing this, however, some children need constant attention and interaction.

    Learn to take time for yourself, and learn to give your wife time as well. Your little bundle of joy will be just that, but he/she will also be exhausting, physically and mentally. In a good way, not in an up-all night because someone forgot to process a batch job corectly way...

    Buy a car seat that is set up to be "staged" meaning that it has settings for newborns, babies and toddlers, it will cost more in the short run, but in the long run, it will save you having to buy three car seats. Same with the travel system.
    Also, buy a wipes warmer. It sounds odd, but your child will be much happier having himself cleaned with a nice warm towelette as opposed to a cold one.

    Most importantly, enjoy. This is a wonderful time, an excellent time, and so full of amazing activies.

    It is a great excuse to get new hardware, digital cameras, photo printers and such.

    Good luck and congratulations.

  3. Childproof now! by Tye_Informer · · Score: 3, Informative

    Speaking from experience... Even though the baby isn't due till November, and probably will be mostly immobile till sometime next February, start preparing and working on stuff now!
    My wife and I did a lot of things to get the baby's room ready but we didn't figure we needed to do the childproofing stuff till the baby was learning to crawl. That's around 4 months at the earliest, but you will spend that first 4 months actively caring for the baby or sleeping. If you aren't feeding the baby, you are changing the baby, if not that you are changing your close because of one of the prior two. If the baby is asleep then you are asleep. Even when you are at work, you are probably sleeping. Next thing you know the new baby is crawling and then it is all you can do to play catch up with all the things the magazines say you should have done by now.

    Next piece of advice, ignore the magazines, you will get enough of the "good parents do this" when your new baby is a teenager.

  4. Thoughts from the dad of a 9month old by dmorin · · Score: 5, Informative
    Our first child, Katherine, was born just about 9 months ago. Here's my thoughts, in no special order:
    • Get her honest opinion on her career versus raising a child. Does she want to go back to work eventually? Fulltime? My wife is a physical therapist who very clearly wants to be a fulltime mom, but not give up on her career. So she works 1 weekend a month.
    • Financially speaking, are you where you need to be if she wants to stop working? Personally I'm dead set against families that just plain can't afford a child but decide to have one anyway. Not a big fan of dropping a 1month old in daycare 5 days a week. People do it, sure. But when we bought our house last year I made it a point to do all the finances on the assumption that there would only be my salary, not hers, so that we have the option of letting her be the mom she wants to be.
    • Insurance. Decide up front whose insurance the baby will be on, since by default the hospital will put the baby on mom's. But since my wife was quitting and thus would not have insurance (well, not as a part timer) then I needed to put them both on mine. The ensuing confusion (since we both had the smae company, just different accounts) lasted months.
    • Babies do not always come on time, so get things ready at least a month ahead of time.
    • Your wife will "nest" whether she acknowledges it or not. That's scientific talk for "Oh my god we have to paint this room pink RIGHT NOW" when she's only 5 months along. Go with it. Buy the furniture. Then realize that most people have the baby sleep in the same room as the parents for the firsts 6 months anyway.
    • If you have any fear of dropping the baby or otherwise not holding her properly, forget it. Instinct kicks in and you'll do just fine.
    • Come labor and delivery, your job is to do what your wife says. If she wants mom and dad there, fine. If she doesn't, then no matter what mom and dad say, take a stand and kick them out. Same with visitors. After the baby is born people will want to come see. If your wife is tired, or breastfeeding, or whatever, by all means scoot the visitors out firmly. She should NOT feel uncomfortable or otherwise upset by anybody, not after what she's just gone through.
    • Recording things is cool. Personally I kept a paper diary of every day of her pregnancy from the day she told me to the birth. Went home, printed and bound it (with newborn pictures) and gave it to her as a present. I have no opinion on the couple who recently broadcast the entire delivery on their weblog. Not a big fan of recording the actual birth.
    • Pack *your* bag for the hospital. They will give your wife most of what she needs (in terms of food and clothing), but not you. You may be there the better part of the week.
    • Speaking of which, discuss the plans for immediately after the baby is born. Will you be by her side 24hrs a day? Because odds are that you want to get the house ready for her (not to mention the impending flood of visitors). Also, you probably have limited paternity leave that you might be better off using up once you get home. My wife's mother was with her every day in the hospital, which gave me a chance to go home, get the mail and newspapers, shower, and make sure that the air conditioning contractor hadn't stolen the jewelry.
    • If somebody suggests sometihng that sounds like a silly idea to you, skip it. One we heard was "Bring scented oils to get rid of the hospital smell, a bathing suit for dad in case mom wants to go in the shower while in labor, and your favorite CDs to listen to." We used none of that. Some people might like it, though -- thus, to them, it doesn't sound silly.
    • Do not research yourself silly, you'll only get an ulcer out of it. The doctors will probably tell you many things that *could* happen, which your brain will hear as "will" happen, and therefore you brace yourself for the worst. If it is something to worry about, they will tell you. Ask. I remember when my wife was a
  5. Child Care Takes A Lot Of Time by north.coaster · · Score: 2, Informative

    When my first child was born, the biggest shock to my system was how much time my wife and I had to spend doing child care. Babies are helpless, so you gotta do everything for them. Maybe if I had younger siblings (or wasn't such an idiot) I was have known what to expect, but I was completely caught off guard.

    Forget working on any type of hobby or non-essential home project for at least three months (probably more).

  6. congrats by farnsworth · · Score: 4, Informative
    apros pos of slashdot, I would emphatically recommend setting up some sort of photo repository application *now*. and test it. make sure it easy to upload pictures with one hand, because once the baby comes, you'll no longer have the use of both hands. unless you are both orphans or live with your entire family, a lot of people will be *dying* to see pictures, and they will not stop asking you for them. it's very easy to set it up now, and it will well worth it, come november.

    apros pos of parenthood in general:

    1. get sleep now
    2. go see movies now
    3. help your wife with keeping healthy. read about nutrition and excercise, and do it as a team.
    4. have a birth plan
    5. say goodbye to all your friends :)
    6. have a strategy for childcare. you probably wont be able to arrange specifics this far in advance, but you have to start narrowing it down.
    7. if you have any long-term non-family related tasks to do, DO THEM NOW. for example, forget about learning c# in 9 months.
    8. find a parents support group near you. there are millions of things that you will need to do that currently you have no idea how to do. if you're in the SF Bay Area (or don't mind filtering through local info), check out the berkeley parents network.
    9. have fun! don't sweat it too much. people have been doing this for a pretty long time with moderate success, and half the parents are in the bottom 50 percentile!

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    There aint no pancake so thin it doesn't have two sides.

  7. Re:Google for kids by mattsucks · · Score: 3, Informative

    I tried the Google search, but thanks to some A-lists tech blogs all I got was 30 links about how raising goats will lead to peace, universal love, harmony amongst nations, free (as in beer) music ...
    If I'd tried this 42 days ago I would have discovered the meaning of life....

    Another example of Googlewashing ... when oh when will something be done ????

  8. Priorities by Fished · · Score: 5, Informative
    Let me start with my "qualifications": I have four kids, aged one to five. While I cannot claim to know everything, I think I do have some idea what you're in for. As a part-time pastor, I've also seen more than a little bit of what goes wrong in marriages. Here are a few tips:
    1. Remembers why you had kids in the first place. I think a lot of people go into having kids with the vague idea that it will be "fun", and then don't have a good foundation when it turns out to be a lot of work. Having kids isn't fun - it's the creation of a new person. These are not pets, they're people, and for that reason their value cannot be reckoned.
    2. I would strongly recommend that you consider whether having two incomes is worth it. The bottom line is that, when all the accounting is done, it rarely pays to have two incomes. First, decent daycare is expensive - for anything worth having, at least $700-1000/month/child. Second, there are many hidden expenses of working - how often do you eat out because everyone's too tired to cook? How much do work clothes cost? The net effect is that I'm not sure many families make any more money by both working unless they have very special skills (i.e. doctor,lawyer,etc) or have free childcare.
    3. The good news: your kids won't be little forever. Hang in there.
    4. The bad news: your kids won't be little forever. Don't squander the terrible twos sitting in front of the TV or the playstation.
    5. Get your finances in order. Yes, really. The best thing you can do for your kids is have a good marriage (divorce devastates kids, and anyone who says otherwise is deluded.) And the first best thing you can do for your marriage is to have your finances in order. This doesn't mean making a lot of money, it means not spending money you don't have. If you don't have a budget, make one: http://www.snowmintcs.com/ offers some good software to help.
    6. As soon as the baby's old enough, arrange a date-night at least once a month. (Typically, "old enough" is about six weeks.) This follows from the previous: the second best thing you can do for your marriage is to spend time together away from the kids. And don't forget to have fun: this shouldn't be a time to bitch about money.
    7. Following the previous two: if your marriage starts to fall apart, do whatever it takes to stop that. If that means quitting your job and being home, do it -- there's always welfare. Don't wait for the divorce notice to start working on your marriage. (And, oh yes, run like hell from adultery before it happens to you.)
    8. If someone decides to stay home with the kids, the YMCA is your friend. I'm not sure how common this is, but here the YMCA (1) gives membership to anyone, even if they can't pay and (2) has free childcare while you work out. The time away from the kids is important.
    9. One thing worth noting: most of the things kids really need cannot be bought, and most of the things that are really good for them are free. A public playground is good for kids on about sixteen million levels - and that $20 toy will be busted within a week.
    10. This is a team effort: get as much help from the family as you can. But this is your responsility, don't let grandma run your kid's life.
    11. Discipline early and often, and consistently. How you discipline (i.e. spanking or not) is not nearly as important as being consistent. A book called 1-2-3 Magic offers an excellent start on a good pattern of discipline. Also, if you wait until the kids are three or four to start disciplining, you're doomed. Start when they start crawling and they will grow into it.
    12. Most importantly: the goal of child-rearing is not always a happy kid. It's a happy, productive adult. Sometimes, the kid needs to cry today to smile tomorrow.
    Okay, there's more to say but that's all that comes to mind. :) Good luck, and don't forget your priorities: first, your marriage, then your children, then yourself.
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    "He who would learn astronomy, and other recondite arts, let him go elsewhere. " -- John Calvin, commenting on Genesis 1
  9. Pregnancy. by fava · · Score: 2, Informative

    NEVER repeat NEVER argue with a pregnant woman.

    The hormonal changes during pregnancy are 7 times the hormonal changes that cause PMS, so even if you win you will loose.

  10. Re:Lets see... by Darnit · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have mod points but the Diaper Genie really rocks and the Vent Aire bottles are worth 10 times their weight in gold. I just couldn't mod this up enough with 1 point.

  11. Congratulations! by Mandomania · · Score: 5, Informative
    My wife and I had a son just over two years ago. Here's our two bits:
    • Prepare for sleepless nights. This was the one thing that caught us completely by surprise. People always joked that we'd never sleep, but I thought, "Hey, I've worked crunch time. I've put in 100 hr. weeks. This baby won't be so bad." Ha! That little monster kept us awake for a year. Just FYI. If you don't have a coffee maker, get one now.
    • You can NEVER have too many diapers. Believe me, there's nothing worse than making a 3am run to the store to pick up diapers for a 6 mo. old. NOTHING. Oh, and pick up a Diaper Genie (it's one of those diaper pail things with the sealable bags). It won't block all of the odor, but it helps. A LOT. And get a wipe warmer (I think someone might have already mentioned it).
    • Teething's a bitch. Unfortunately, beyond keeping those little teething rings nearby, there's not much you can do. Kids sometimes get feverish when they're teething, so before you panic and think your kid has malaria, check the gums. She's probably teething.
    • Speaking of malaria, kids get sick. This is the worst part of being a parent, IMHO. You will NEVER feel more helpless in your entire life than when you're holding your sick kid, and they look up at you with those "I-feel-like-shit-why-won't-you-do-something!" eyes. Again, not much you can do here other than take the kid in to the pediatrician, give them the medicine, and suck it up. They get sick all the time (especially if they're in day care), but it's just a fact of life. And it doesn't get any easier :-(.
    • Enjoy this time. Each phase of childhood has it's own joys, but the first 6-9 months are really special. Everything's new, and everything she does will be "The First". The First Smile. The First Laugh. The First Crap. The First Projectile Vomit. You get the drift. Savor these moments, because like college basketball, they're over far too soon. Once she's mobile (crawling or walking), it's all over.


    This should get you started :-). Of course, if you have any questions or just wanna bawl like a little girl, I'd be happy to help (or ridicule). Email's above.

    I wonder if there's a Geek Fathers club...

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    Mando
  12. Don't Boil the Baby by Chelloveck · · Score: 2, Informative

    Check out The Story About the Baby. The first year of a child's life, as seen by her dysfunctional geek of a father. Not only is it a great introduction for what to expect, it's hilarious as well. Should be at the top of any geek parent's reading list.

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    Chelloveck
    I give up on debugging. From now on, SIGSEGV is a feature.
  13. Buy your wife a gliding rocker by SoCalChris · · Score: 3, Informative

    Buy her a nice glifing rocker chair for those nigths she will be up feeding the baby. Also, get her some sort of a Tivo type thing for when she is up feeding him in the middle of the night and there is nothing on tv.

    If you make a comment to Huggies on their website (Good or bad comment), they will send you a coupon for a free pack of diapers. Also, you will start getting tons of crap in your mail. Look through it, there ar some good coupons in there. We were getting a free coupon each month for Carnation formula from a magazine we had gotten signed up for.

    Finally, formula smells bad. For the first several months of their life, your baby's formula will smell worse than their crap. Trust me on this one. The faintest whiff of formula just turns my stomache now.

    Most of all, just have fun! Enjoy your baby the first few days when all he does is sleep (It won't last long!). Make sure your wife gets plenty of rest, she'll need it the first several months.

    Enjoy your baby!

    Chris - Father of a 9 month old boy

  14. One word: breastfeed by Fished · · Score: 5, Informative
    I've already posted here, but one of those many things I'd forgotten came to my attention: don't even think about bottle feeding. No, I'm serious. Don't.

    Here's a few reasons why:

    1. Breast is best. No, really, it is. Even the formula companies, in their advertisements, have to admit that breast feeding is by far the best thing for your kids. Breast-fed babies get sick a lot less (I have twin two-year olds that have only been sick with colds/ear infections twice -- bottle-fed babies seem sick all the time, especially if they are in day care.) There's also conclusive evidence that breast-fed babies are more emotionally stable, and some reason to be that they are on average smarter. Also, there are a few chronic diseases (such as Krohn's disease) that breast-fed children just don't get. These last for a lifetime.
    2. Breast is easiest. Visualize a two AM feeding. Now, at one two-AM feeding, you have to go downstairs, get out the formula, find a bottle, clean a bottle (if your house is like mine), warm a bottle, hold the bottle while the baby eats, burb the baby, clean up where the baby spit up all over you because bottle-fed babies puke more, and finally, an hour later, go back to bed. Don't forget that the baby is screaming the whole time cause he has colic because you're bottle-feeding. At the other two-AM feeding, you get the baby out their crib, walk her to the bed, where your naked wife sleepily takes the baby in her arms and feeds her. The baby barely wakes up, and the mother barely wakes up, and you are back in bed in less than five minutes. You can then, 15 minutes later, return the baby to the crib if you must, but it's really not a big deal.
    3. You will be denying income to some seriously evil corporations that do things like giving free samples of formula to third-world mothers, then letting the babies starve when the samples run out and the third-world people can't afford more.
    4. Your pediatrician will thank you. (None of your other doctors will care, but your pediatrician will.)
    5. Your wife will tend to lose baby weight much more quickly. Also, Breast-feeding produces a hormone that contracts muscles in the lower abdomen stretched by pregnancy. Short form - yum.
    6. Did I mention that the pregnancy breasts stick around longer? Yum.
    7. Breast milk is tasty, especially warm. yum.
    8. Breast-milk comes in shapely, reusable containers.
    9. Formula is *expensive*.
    If it's so good, why don't more people do it?
    1. In the 20's and 30's, it was stylish not to breast feed. Breast-feeding was considered low-class.
    2. There was some serious hubris starting in the thirties that said that we could out-do nature and that breast milk was better for the baby. This is conclusively disproved.
    3. Silly victorian body modesty.
    4. Grandma bottle-fed, and is libel to be offended if you tell her that what she did wasn't best. People get seriously offended about this. Tell 'em to go to hell.
    5. Did I mention that the formula companies spend a lot on advertising? Seriously, when you go the hospital, even if you're breast-feeding, you will be baraged with promotional junk provided by the formula companies. If you do not have a good pediatrician, you will get it there too.
    6. Formula is free at first. Kind of like cocaine.
    7. Breast-feeding *hurts* for the first week or so. This can't be denied. Trust me: it does get better.
    Anyway, there's my rant. This is based on four children worth of experience, breast and bottle fed.
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    "He who would learn astronomy, and other recondite arts, let him go elsewhere. " -- John Calvin, commenting on Genesis 1
  15. This dad's thoughts by knobboy · · Score: 2, Informative

    The first thing to realize is that your life, at least for the first six months after your child is born, will change drastically. Not necessarily in a bad way, but things will be different with the baby around.

    Here are some hints that I was told and some I've picked up:

    1. Buy things now. If you are going to use disposable diapers, buy a pack or two everytime you go to the store. Don't get just newborns, get size 1 and 2 as well if your budget allows. I used Huggy Ultra-Trims on my son, they worked well. I wouldn't recommend doing the same with formula as our son had to go through a couple types before we found what seemed to work best for him.
    2. Along with number one, plan your budget accordingly. My wife missed quite a bit of work due to morning sickness, pregnancy-induced diabetes, and was induced a month early due to pre-eclampsia (don't think I spelled that right, but have to hit the door soon). This left us with less money than expected before our son was born, so we didn't have the baby bed bought and paid for, for example.
    3. Make sure you have a comfy chair (Cardinal Fang) to sit in for the feedings. We had a rocking chair (not a glider) in my son's room, but it was not comfortable. A month after he was born, we bought a rocking recliner that made night-time feedings much better.
    4. If you don't have it, find a way to get a camer/digital camera and/or camcorder. I didn't have one when our son was born, but Grandma and Grandpa did and we used it when visiting them to get those moments you don't want to forget. Also look into getting a baby book set up now. My wife's cousin promised us one but never delivered, so we don't have all of the usual things recorded that some people would like to have.
    5. Beg and borrow as much stuff as you can. We got a bassinet from a family friend, my wife's co-worker garage sale for baby clothes, we borrowed a car seat from a friend, etc. Spend on what you must, but borrow what you can. People will offer.
    6. Family can be a big help. My wife's parents babysit the boy at least every third week, which can be very helpful.
    7. Definitely attend a childbirth class. Your local hospital likely has one that expectant parents can attend. If nothing else, do this.

  16. less sanitised books by Sad+Loser · · Score: 2, Informative


    Being a good parent is very difficult. It is much easier to start off with good habits and enforce them, rather than duck them and try to sort them out later.

    Sleep is absolutely critical- both yours and theirs.

    If you can't get sleep right, you get an over-tired irritable child which develops a whole lot of other problems e.g. behavioural problems. People always say to us "aren't you lucky, your children sleep really well". It's not luck. We worked hard at it, it was difficult, but it was well worth it.

    Here are some books for someone looking for something a little less rose tinted.

    Up the duff
    and
    Silent Nights

    The silent nights book is the most important single book/ advice we had. It saved our sanity, and made our children happier and much nicer. Good luck !

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    Humorous signatures are over-rated.
  17. Re:Childproof now! - rent a child! by jackb_guppy · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you have freinds with kids - in the 18 months to 2 year range (younger can help but most do not move as fast!)

    "Rent them for a Day"

    You will never think of the stuff in your house that is unsafe -- until you watch one of these kids - take it a part.

    A book case with large books at the bottom and the "kid" books at the top. Either bottom boooks are stairs or a chair/box/toys are used.

    A flower pot is turned over. You ask how a child that is 20 pounds can turn over a large 50 pound flower pot. EASY.

  18. Re:Congradulations!!!!!! by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 2, Informative

    Buy legos. Looottttsss of legos. =)

    Just remember to always turn the light on when you get up in the night. Lego's really, really hurt when you step on them with bare feet.