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Fishing for Ideas

FyreWyr writes "Whether Microsoft is searching for new ideas, or supporting inventors outright is up for grabs, but they're stabbing at it with $300,000 for 12 spanking ideas (that's $25k each). But as with everything Microsoft, the devil's in the details, or rather, the fine print. At first, you'd swear it was "Brought to you by VISA" - the logo is ubiquitous - but the very last statement in the contest rules reads: "The sponsor...is Microsoft ... VISA...have not sponsored or offered this contest in any way". They also retain a spectrum of rights, and responsibily suggest that you go out and patent really good ideas first. Okay, how much does that cost again? (see end of this article)."

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  1. Re:Great plan! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    wait wait wait... clarify step 3.

    Who profits?

  2. Re:Development costs by Xenographic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You might want to RTFA. The examples listed aren't pitching ideas for new products or businesses (at least, none of the ones I saw did, including the examples).

    Rather, they were for things like 'fund me so build an orphanage in Guatemala' and 'help me recreate my grandfather's immigration to America so I can understand my roots'.

    Of course, using it as venture capital for some new product you have in mind might win, too, but from what I gather, the point of it is not (necessarily) to get new product ideas.

  3. Re:At least they're honest. by jb_02_98 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What do you mean, Microsoft "not being honest," that's impossible. They are always letting people keep there ideas. They have always "embraced and extended" everyone's good ideas. More seriously though, anyone should patent an idea or it will be lost to some big business, M$ or not, someone will steal it.

  4. Re:For Microsoft by Xenographic · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That would take a wee bit more than $25K (or even $300K...) :]

  5. Anybody look at the site? by diggem · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Most of the people are going looking to win the money to do something with it. Mostly it falls into two categories.

    1. Help myself
    2. Help others

    Not sure how MS is going to make more money by building libraries in Ghana. :P Unless they put Windows computers in the library and bring the kiddies and people up using their software of course!

  6. Not a technical competition by woodja · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From what I can tell from the entries so far the competition isn't for technical ideas. It is mostly social ideas, like starting a school program or helping out in a third world country. I would not expect to see their target audience submit an idea for developing a new video compression technique.

    I personally would not bash Microsoft or Visa for this one. The aim is promote MSN and Visa, not a way to get ideas for free. Besides, I highly doubt Microsoft would be able to patent a method for paying off Grandma's medical bills.

  7. Not completely unusual by Flamesplash · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This happens in other arenas, in particular book rights and movies.

    Richard Bach spent a lot of time and money buying the rights of his first couple books back from his publisher, but as I understand it he wouldn't have been able to publish those books without having given the rights away in the first place. Not that he did profit from the books even though he didn't own them.

    I want to say the same happens in the movie industry, but I'm not sure.

    The only real difference is that people will always want to know who wrote a book or movie, and don't really care about the individual behind research.

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  8. There's an age restriction! by Espressoman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm 32, which is too old to have an idea. Apparently ideas come from 18-29 year olds...

  9. moron cloning va lairIE's SourceForgerIE(tm) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    the 'devil's' ruining the hole sideshow buy now.

    25k? buy golly, that seems like a lot of monIE for just some billyonerror 'idea'. shucks.

    does it pay off in worth less billybuks, or sum other such frauduleNT patentdead payper liesense stock markup bullshipping industrIE scammage?

    lookout bullow. almost time to square up robbIE?

    anonymouse? -40 too close to call?

    consult yOUR creator regarding matters of the heart/mind/soul.

  10. This is how you get picked! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    From the site:
    "I've been going to school for three years, and my family has struggled to keep me in school for all three years. My mother's house has been under contruction for majority of the time, but she hasn't been able to complete it because she is paying for me to go to school. I want to continue to a four year college, but won't be able to if I can't come up with the money. I want to start my own Public Relations company, but without a strong education behind me that makes it harder for me, and being a minority woman. I would be the first to successfully start a business, and be able to do things like promote for Microsoft, if they award me this prize. It will set my future up for a beautiful long lasting career"

  11. It pisses me off by WindBourne · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I have been suggesting just this thing for Transmeta/IBM/SUN/HP for the last year. You will find it in a large number of posts here and LinuxToday (as a.c./dev@null). MS runs around and does it. While I personally think that MS has some of the worse coders and software in the world, they have the very best Lawyers and Marketers. My hat is off to you MS. If you win, it is becuase the good guys are so totally stupid and greedy. Perhaps, it also shows the total lack of imagination.

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  12. 5 words: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    and the concepts embodied therein

  13. Re:I have a better one by GigsVT · · Score: 2, Insightful

    MS didn't invent IP, they only abuse it. You should turn your wrath on your legislator and tell them what needs to be fixed. (i.e. software patents)

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  14. MS and Scientolgy by madchris · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Both Microsoft and Scientology like to grab the "regular guy's" inventiveness to use for their own ends.

    Beware assholes bearing gifts!

  15. Apple has done this before. Lay off Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This board is rabid. Back in about 1989 Apple ran one or two promotions like this. They retained all the rights too.

    Lay off Microsoft. Not everything they do is wrong.

  16. Calm down, it's OK. by Erris · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I have been suggesting just this thing for Transmeta/IBM/SUN/HP for the last year. ... My hat is off to you MS. If you win, it is becuase the good guys are so totally stupid and greedy.

    The good guys thought the contest idea was stupid and greedy. It is you know.

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  17. As VCs, these guys suck. by Animats · · Score: 2, Insightful
    And people complain that the Sand Hill Road venture capital crowd wants tough terms.

    If you have a really good idea, there are ways to make money with it. This isn't one of them.