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TiVo Home Media Rollout

ncstockguy writes "TiVo rolls out its new Home Media option next week. Subscribers with a Series2 DVR box can get some impressive new functions to their TiVos. They'll be able to screen digital photos on their TVs, listen to music stored on their computer hard drives on their home entertainment units, schedule to tape a show "remotely" through the Internet, and watch a recorded show in different rooms on different TVs. Some of the functions will require two or more computers connected either by WiFi or ethernet."

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  1. DIRECTV users left out in cold by tbdean · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you are a DIRECTivo user - a DIRECTV user with a TiVo2 box you do not get these features. TiVo has offered them to DIRECTV, but DIRECTV doesn't seem to want them. I'll keep my TiVo1 series box until DTV gets on the ball. When I can get these new features I'll buy two TiVo2 boxes!

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    1. Re:DIRECTV users left out in cold by anthonyclark · · Score: 4, Informative


      Complain!


      Corporate types wait for a certain number of complaints before doing anything. If enough people complain (and promise to buy the Home Media Option if DirecTV make it available) then DirecTV will do something about it


      Go here and tell them how disappointed you are and how you you want to buy this. Mention that you'll complain to J D Power Consumer Satisfaction Survey which should make them take notice; DirecTV really values their high customer satisfaction rating and use it as a selling point.

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    2. Re:DIRECTV users left out in cold by neonzebra · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yeah this really pissed me off. I bought a DirecTiVo Series 2 box in anticipation of the new HMO features. Now my roommate is going to have a better TiVo than me! (Damn him!)

      I can't really blame TiVo, though, it was DirecTV's decision not to offer the feature. TiVo gave complete control of the DirecTiVo featureset to DirecTV some time back.

      If you're in the same boat as me, there's an online petition here. From the tone of the DirecTV VP that made the announcement, it looks like if there's enough demand, they might change thier minds and release it anyway. So please do us all a favor and slashdot the petition!

    3. Re:DIRECTV users left out in cold by ncc74656 · · Score: 4, Informative
      I'll keep my TiVo1 series box until DTV gets on the ball. When I can get these new features I'll buy two TiVo2 boxes!

      Even then, I'm not so sure that HMO makes the upgrade to Series 2 worthwhile. I have a standalone Series 1 TiVo, and I don't plan on upgrading. My TiVo is connected to my network, and I've been ripping/archiving shows from it for nearly two years now. The software to enable this keeps getting better all the time...TyStudio is especially slick. Once it's set up, a few clicks are all it takes to extract an MPEG stream that you can burn directly to DVD or transcode to a lower bitrate for SVCD. (Info on transcoding/editing TiVo video is available here, but it's not yet been updated for TyStudio.) Remote scheduling is handled through TivoWeb, so that's covered...that's really the only HMO feature I'd find useful, as I have only one TiVo (making "multi-room viewing," as they've defined it, useless) and my DVD player plays MP3 CDs.

      Maybe HMO is a bit easier to set up for the drooling masses, but you can still do more with a Series 1 TiVo...and it doesn't cost you anything (other than the cost of a NIC for your TiVo, and even that is cheaper than HMO).

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    4. Re:DIRECTV users left out in cold by Caduceus1 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Just to inform people.

      The home Media Option is only available to owners of the TiVo Series 2 DVR. There is no such thing as a "Series 2" DirecTiVo. There is the Hughes HDVR2 (and some other brands soon), which is call the "DirecTV DVR powered by TiVo", and is based on the same platform as the Series 2 (faster processor, graphics, etc.), but it has never officially been dubbed a Series 2.

      That said, the HDVR2 and others of its ilk could support it (it has the power), but DirecTV is now responsible for the support, not TiVo, and has too look at all software and hardware updates closely. Also, all fees for the service are paid directly to DirecTV, so somehow DirecTV would have to pay TiVo for the added service.

      If you want them to support HMO, tell DirecTV. They are the ones who decided, and they do so based on customer demand. Complaining to Customer Satisfaction surveys about not supporting features that have never been announced won't be as productive.

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  2. Beta by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've been beta testing the service for a while now...

    The Apple Music and photo sharing is awesome, total use of Rendesvous and your iBook, Powermac, etc. shows up immediately in your TiVo categorized down to a "T"

    Another feature that a lot of people probably wouldn't expect is to try this: Make a playlist with some internet radio stations and share it out to your TiVo. Access the playlist on your TiVo and you can listen to Internet radio stations on your TV! It's very, very cool and works great!

  3. WOW ;- by Y2K+is+bogus · · Score: 3, Informative

    So Tivo users will have the same functionality as Replay 4000+ users do? It's a damn shame that SonicBlue is in the toilet. With the exception of playing music, my 4580 does all the things Tivo just announced. What's even better is that the line protocol has already been hacked and I can watch recorded programs from any computer in the house with mplayer. Also, I can share with my buddy across the country if he ever gets a 4k series.

    Truely a damn shame about Replay. Heck, I've been TCPdumping all comms with it since I heard so that I can disect how to emulate the replay server if it comes to it.

  4. Unforutunately.... by hawkstone · · Score: 4, Informative

    1. Viewing files from your home computer (photos, music) requires Windows or a Mac. Their "TiVo Desktop" software is not (yet) available for linux as far as I can tell.

    2. The ability to share your recorded shows requires you to buy another Series 2 TiVo and buy (yes, it costs money) the Home Media upgrade for it as well. You cannot "share" the file with anyone else's Series 2 either, only ones registered under the same household account at TiVo HQ. You can't "share" with your computer either, BTW, only another TiVo.

    Maybe some of these will be improved over time, either by TiVo or someone else.

  5. Not ready for prime time by MediaBoy77 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was a beta tester for 'HMO', as it's known at TiVo. I've been living with it for the last month--and I'm not going to shell out the $99 to purchase it. Why?

    1. Lack of format support. TiVo plays MP3s. That's it. No OGG, no WMA. My collection is mostly in WMA. If I were to start again, it would be into OGG, not MP3.

    2. No playlist control. You can create M3U playlists on your computer and play those, but if you don't create playlists ahead of time, you're stuck playing individual songs or folders (which in my case are sorted by artist). You can't switch songs without stopping the current song from playing. That makes it pretty much useless for parties where you'd like live control over what will play next.

    3. No photos simultaneously with music. The feature is named "Music & Photos". But it's actually "Music OR Photos". So if you want to play music during your party, your guests get to see a box with song info onscreen, and that's it. If you want to put a slide show up on your TV, your music has to come from somewhere else. Similarly, there are no other visualization toys to play with.

    As for the other features, I "only" have one TiVo, so multi-room viewing isn't useful to me.

    And in the month I've been using it so far, I've never had the need to schedule programs for my TiVo remotely.

    Even if I had, the conflict-resolution options are minimal: record this program if nothing conflicts, or or record it regardless. You don't get to see what may be conflicting, because TiVo connects to the mother ship every 15 minutes or so to check for new orders.

    In short, it's a 1.0 feature set, competing against computers in a 3.0 world. If I want music & photos on my TV, I'll just plug my laptop into my AV system and be happy. So sad.

  6. Re:Dear TiVo.. (Vorbis) by Dahamma · · Score: 3, Informative

    > Any hardware that is capable of decoding video can easily decode Vorbis as well

    This is definitely NOT true... TiVo does its MPEG2 encoding and decoding with SPECIFIC hardware that will only encode/decode MPEG. While they could be using it to decode MP3s as well (since MP3 is MPEG1 layer 3 audio) Vorbis is a totally different (and more CPU intensive) audio codec...

    Still, this doesn't necessarily mean that the CPU on the TiVo would not be able to handle Vorbis decoding, just that it has nothing to do with the box's ability to decode MPEG2.

  7. Develop Your Own TiVoServer by CraigEagle · · Score: 4, Informative

    Tivo has released Developer Resources including an API for creating your own TiVoServer as well as an Apache module to get you started. For a company that is frequently trashed in this forum, they seem to be throwing the /. crowd a rather large peace pipe. - Craig

  8. Re:Not such a great deal. by uberdood · · Score: 4, Informative
    All I wanted was to dump the crappy built-in modem that has died twice in 3 years and use my internet link to get the guide information.
    You mean this, this or even this? Ethernet-based guide data has been available for the Series 1 TiVo for well over a year now (probably more like two years by now). Sure, these options cost you $70, but they do give you that functionality you crave so strongly.

    Now if you're strapped for cash, there's a free way to get guide data without buying an ethernet card (you still must have a subscription of course). It's called ppp over serial - all Series 1 have a serial port and came with a serial port adapter (9pin to your PC). The procedure is well documented here.

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  9. chilling by pz · · Score: 4, Informative

    As anyone who is familiar with the MythTV project will attest, the feature list trumpeted by TiVo is precisely what is available for MythTV, an open source, volunteer effort (although MythTV supports more, and more diverse features). Isn't competition grand!

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  10. Re:[Q] When Will TiVo Be Hi-Res? by testify · · Score: 5, Informative

    The long-awaited TiVo HDTV is on it's way.

    You can view the press release here:
    TiVo HDTV DVR press release

    I'd also recommend checking out the various forums at the TiVo Community Forums, where discussion about the HDTV models has been underway. There are some very knowledgeable folks there.

  11. Bug DirecTV! by EvilStein · · Score: 3, Informative

    Found this link on another posting that didn't get modded up yet. Seriously, folks - bug the hell out of DirecTV and let them know that you want this (if you actually do)