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Windows Media for Embedded Linux Systems

ntmonkey writes "According to this article, Microsoft has authorized InterVideo to port Windows Media Player to Linux. However, WMP will not be available to normal folks...Microsoft will only allow it to be distributed via set top boxes and the like."

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  1. Ack! by Xpilot · · Score: 4, Funny

    The Microsoft and Linux icons on the same topic... what an unholy combination! I thought I'd never see the day.

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    1. Re:Ack! by evilviper · · Score: 5, Funny

      So, for what?... the past couple days or so?... since the beginning of the multiple topic icons... you thought you'de never see this day?

      Umm, tell me, uhhh, what combination of lottery numbers do you think you'll never see win?

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  2. How long ... by B3ryllium · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... until it gets ripped off a box and distributed for general use?

  3. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Funny

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  4. Indeed. by numbski · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "If you register the player online, which involves answering some very personal questions and effectively allowing Microsoft a good look at your PC, then you get the full version. Otherwise you're left with a cut down version.

    "If they applied this tactic to Linux users, imagine the information they could get their hands on."

    Indeed.

    Even if they ported it, would you use it with those stipulations?

    One word. MPlayer.

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    1. Re:Indeed. by Rinikusu · · Score: 4, Funny

      So, like, what would they see?
      "HEY BILL! LOOKIT THIS! We got the source for Linux! Now we can crush them!"

      "Muhahahahahaa.. they shall crumble before the mighty microsoft when they realize we have their trump card!"

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  5. Re:Third repost of this topic? by blakestah · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, the previous posts were Microsoft allowing the WMV9 encoders to be licensed for other operating systems. Previously, media tools from Microsoft could only be used on Windows (like Pinnacle Studio). With the WMV9 codec, licenses for tools can be purchased on any operating system, and much cheaper than MPEG4 licenses.

    This new release is about their media PLAYER, for which licensing is a separate issue.

  6. Movie Theaters by cdrudge · · Score: 4, Funny

    so now will the movie theaters run linux?

    Hey...it was highly rated in a previous story. If the Slashdot gang can repeat stories...why can't I repeat comments.

    1. Re:Movie Theaters by T3kno · · Score: 4, Funny

      I wonder what killall -9 wmp9 would look like on a 30 foot screen.

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  7. Re:Question by Tim+C · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not if the libraries in question are licenced under the LGPL. The LGPL specifically allows linking with non-GPLed code; that's the reason it exists distinct from the GPL.

  8. Normal by rirugrat · · Score: 4, Funny
    However, WMP will not be available to normal folks...Microsoft will only allow it to be distributed via set top boxes and the like.

    Microsoft is right. Most Linux folks are not normal.

    Chris

  9. Yar! by rabtech · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yarrrrr matey! We be the pirates o' the seven operatin' systems!

    *wink-wink* *nudge-nudge*

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  10. Legal WMP on Illegal Modded Xbox by ZombieFrog · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sounds like a prime candidate for a legal paradox that could destroy time itself!

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  11. Re:Will Mictosoft have to distribute source?NO by ehudokai · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes you are missing a great deal. The GPL only restricts the code that is covered by the GPL. So if Microsoft chose to take the linux kernel and rerelease it, then they would have to release the source, otherwise they don't have to release anything under the GPL simply because they are using Linux as their kernel. Take, for example, Oracle, win4lin, Opera, and a host of other BSD licensed material that runs on linux.

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  12. Re:Third repost of this topic? by ryants · · Score: 4, Funny
    (Scene: Charles Manson in his jail cell watching television)
    If I haven't seen it, it's new to me!
    Family Guy Episode FG-102.
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  13. Par for the course... by Delta-9 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Lately I have found that the majority of /. stories are delayed mirrors of Google News Sci/Tech section. I generally check Google News for the stories, then come here about 2 hours later to see the dialog about the story. I knew this story would be making its way here sooner or later.

    1. Re:Par for the course... by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Lately I have found that the majority of /. stories are delayed mirrors of Google News Sci/Tech section. I generally check Google News for the stories, then come here about 2 hours later to see the dialog about the story. I knew this story would be making its way here sooner or later."

      Boy am I stunned that users are scouring reliable news sources to get their stories posted here.

    2. Re:Par for the course... by WasteOfAmmo · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Actually I have to agree with you. It is only recently (few weeks) that I have added Google News to my default tabs that I open in the morning. Virtually every time I see something interesting in the Sci/Tech section I find it on /. within a few hours.

      Of course when I see it on Google I can still get to the sites linked in the headline to read the story :-) and later when /. catches up I can read all the comments to see what 'real' people think of the story. So in a nutshell it is the best of both worlds: quick media propaganda later reviewed/rated/commented-on by peers some of who even know what they are talking about and many that know more about the subject than I do.

      So far as the dupes go, it is easy to skip them or read the comments and laugh at the humor found in the comments of people whining about it.

      /., although it has its problems, still provides a relatively concise set of information related to my field without all the repetative fluff encountered while trying to glean the same information spread accross a multitude of more general sites.

      Merlin.

  14. TiVo by jargoone · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is potentially big news for TiVo. With the recent release of Home Media Option, there have been some complaints about the software not supporting WMA. My music is in mp3 format, so I don't really care, but if it can help increase interest and development in Home Media Option, I'm all for it.

  15. Re:Break by Transient0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unless they go with Linux to save a little money. Especially if they are a manufacturer.

    If you are producing a set-top embedded system and need to put an OS on it, it's WAY cheaper to use Linux than Embedded Windows. The only real cost associated with Linux is tech support, which can be a HUGE cost, but won't be in a system like this because access to the OS will be extremely limited so users won't have an opportunity to fuck it up.

    If you make this product using Linux, you are probably doing so to save on costs, thus maximizing profit for you and your shareholders. Chances are ideological issues about free software and open source play little or no role in that decision. As such, you would be more than happy to use a port of MS-WMP and related codecs if that is a convenient and efficient way to handle the media.

  16. Not for Linux desktops by IGnatius+T+Foobar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is only for embedded devices. You will not see Windows Media Player for the version of Linux which runs on ordinary computers. Microsoft does not have a monopoly in embedded devices, and probably never will: Linux is beating Microsoft in that market. Therefore, if Microsoft wants its media player to exist in that market, they have to (gasp!) compete by doing drastic things like offering it on other operating systems!

    This isn't the first time. Microsoft offers its technologies on other platforms when they don't have a monopoly. FrontPage server extensions have been available for Apache for quite some time, for example.

    When you see Windows Media Player downloadable for x86 Linux with the X Window System -- then it's news.

    However, it's important to avoid using Windows Media anywhere it is found. This is an area Microsoft wants a monopoly in, and it would be a very bad thing if they achieved it. Choose MPEG, OGG, Real, etc. streams when you can find them -- b**ch and moan to webmasters when you can't find them.

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    1. Re:Not for Linux desktops by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Choose MPEG, OGG, Real, etc. streams when you can find them -- b**ch and moan to webmasters when you can't find them.

      Why? MPEG is licenced by the MPEG-LA, who are being a little unfriendly about licensing MPEG-4. Realplayer is a horrible piece of software, with an applaing UI, sneaky terms and conditions and worst of all poor quality playback. I choose the highest quality stream I can. This means I listen to Ogg Vorbis audio where availible, and watch QuickTime 6 or WMV (both of which are MPEG-4 or MPEG-4 derived) where availible.

      Sure, it would be nice if all video were distributed in Ogg Tarkin with an Ogg Vorbis soundtrack, but in the Real World(tm) it takes money to develop this kind of technology, so you can either get it from academia or a company like Microsoft. If you get if from academia, then you are likely to have to write your own implementation based on a number of research papers, maybe with some example code for doing part of it. If you're really that troubled by a potential MS monopoly in this area, then contribute to Ogg Tarkin, and provide companies with a Free alternative to use. At the moment Ogg is a strong contendor to AAC, since it is of similar quality, but with no patent royalties to worry about. There is no real free alternative to MPEG-4.

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