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EverQuest - Not Just For Geeks?

DJPenguin writes "In this article at the BBC, a respected psychologist has co-authored a study into people who play games online, which breaks some of the stereotype of online gamers." This is similar in the results as the survey data we did of open source developers. The stereotypes and realities are often *very* different.

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  1. Debunking popular myths by dtolton · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's good to see a study that debunks the myths being propagated in
    the media. Those of us who play online games know that the vast
    majority of the player base are not teenagers, rather they tend to be
    older, in their mid-twenties and up. I've known a few teen-age kids
    that played, however they usually weren't very successful and didn't
    stick with it long. Although not all teen-agers are this way, many
    of the ones that I've seen play were very impatient, they just wanted
    to level really fast and get all the "uber" weapons so they would
    have an "uber" character.

    Most of the MMORG's that I've played require a significant amount of
    patience, diligence and some amount of strategy in order to develop a
    highly successful character. The few teenagers I saw playing these
    games didn't seem to excercise those traits in abundance.

    I'd like to see them extend this study to "computer" games in
    general, and maybe compare those results to the demographics of
    people who play console based games. I suspect that console based
    games have a significatly higher population of teenagers than
    computer or desktop based games.

    --

    Doug Tolton

    "The destruction of a value which is, will not bring value to that which isn't." -John Galt
    1. Re:Debunking popular myths by madgeorge · · Score: 5, Interesting
      I have to disagree with you. True, the image that every MMORPG addict is a pimple-faced, immature brat needs to be addressed because it's just not accurate. I have a lot of friends my age (32) and older that I play with, but I also play with the teenagers. And some of them are quite mature. You recognize the teenagers who give themselves away as little turds, but the ones you don't know are the mature players who really know how to play and enjoy the game. What's more, I have more friends (my age) that own an Xbox than own any MMORPG. If there is any difference between player base it will be based on subscription based games versus games that are only a one-time hit on the pocketbook. But with game cards available for most subscription based games, credit cards aren't a barrier any longer. As long as your allowance or job at the mall gives you $10/month, you can play EQ.

      Now, whether gamers are geeks or not, I think it's tautologous. Geeks are people who, among other interests, enjoy video (PC, console, etc) games. All of us have a little geek in us. If not, want one? :)

      --madgeorge (little geek)

  2. Money? by CptSkydrop · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I may be horribly wrong but I beleive everquest costs money to play, you have to pay a subscription to the game?

    If so I think everquest maybe a little miss-representative of the set of people that this research found less of.

    why? money... People under 18 don't have credit cards, which is a big barrier in getting money out of them and younger members of society generally have less income, or none at all (intermitent at best).

    Therefore, no regular flow of money, no everquest?
    Take a game you pick up off the shelf and pay once for, the games that teenagers can afford...

    I don't mean to troll, just pointing out an observation

  3. not geeks? by Jason+Mark · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know... how do his findings prove the Everquest gamers aren't geeks (see snip below).

    And did you see this guy's picture. You just have to look glance at him to know that he's a gamer geek. I can safely say this b/c I'm a computer/gaming geek with a goatee.

    The gist of this article is
    "According to Dr Mark (who's a single guy that plays video games over 40 hours a week), all the single guys who play video games 40 hours a week weren't geeks."

    I guess he figures he can get plenty of support on slashdot. Maybe a sort of revenge of the nerds type thing???

    ---snip---
    Its key findings included:
    * Over 60% of players were older than 19.
    * About 85% of players were male.
    * Fifteen percent of people play for more than 50 hours a week.
    * A "significant minority" (15%) adopt a character gender opposite to their own.

    Professor Griffiths said: "There is an image that people who play online games excessively are nerdy and geeky... This is not the case."
    ---/snip---

  4. It's not just for geeks by esanbock · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's for nerds and dorks, too.

  5. Ho-hum by Dark+Lord+Seth · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The stereotypes and realities are often *very* different.

    Someone give Hemos a medal for this one.

    Seriously, what's this all about? Someone just proved that EQ doesn't only spawn 16 y/o with a record of sexual harassment. Of course EQ has sane people, normal players and a whole wad of "John Doe"s running around, having fun (or not) in a non-offensive way. Same thing with CS. A bunch of people I know IRL play CS and lo and behold: They aren't complete idiots. One of them is probably one of the coolest and calmest people I've met thus far. Yet I myself still do associate CS with 14 year olds struggling for online acceptance by being creative with the english language and various symbols and numbers, while EQ still is a stereotypic hunting ground for 16 y/o kids suffering from pure hormone rage. It's not because things are like that; it's just because of the vocal majority of a game/community or the bad part which has been highlighted by others.

    There's a difference between making fun of/using stereotypes and actually believing them.

  6. Similar studies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    here.

  7. I meet more married couples than teenagers by greyfeld · · Score: 5, Insightful
    On the Everquest server where I play, I tend to meet more adults than teenagers. Most of the the people I have made aquaintance with are over 30, many are single, but some, like myself are married with children. I tend to find more instances of single over 25 adults, married couples playing or parents and children (yes that includes mother's and sons) than I do lone teenagers.

    Many of us are geeky, sure. But we lead real, productive lives where we are IT security admins, high-end speaker designers, reps for Coca-Cola, nurses, health food store owners, etc. To dismiss us as geeks because we play Everquest fails to get to the heart of the matter. We live in disparate places, yet have come together from across the world to PLAY.

    That's what we are doing, playing. That's it. When you are playing Everquest, you get a sense of accomplishment, companionship, even friendship that many times is lacking in real life. Now, many of you will say, why aren't you out doing things to help society and other such drivel; get your feeling of accomplishment from that. I can't speak for anyone else, but I have my hands and mind full all day from saving my own little corner of the world. Let me enjoy my freetime a little, okay.