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AOL Sues Spammers

mabu writes "Prompted by what they're reporting as over eight million complaints and the result of over a billion inbound junk e-mails, according to this press release, America Online is now stepping up its battle against spam by initiating five lawsuits against over a dozen companies and individuals. Let's hope this is the beginning of a more aggressive effort on the part of ISPs to prove to their users that they are seriously interested in addressing this issue, and at its source. I've maintained that this has never been a freedom of speech issue. It's more an issue of mail relay hijacking, forging header information, and exploiting third-party networks and resources. Perhaps if more ISPs took action, we might see the backbone providers doing so as well?"

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  1. May as well be the first to say it by sssmashy · · Score: 5, Funny

    "You've got a summons!"

    1. Re:May as well be the first to say it by k-0s · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So they sue spammers (that's good) but spam my postal mail box with CD's and they think it's ok? I'm a little bit confused.

    2. Re:May as well be the first to say it by Rombuu · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think you have to go with the wittier: "You've Got Jail!"

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    3. Re:May as well be the first to say it by gujo-odori · · Score: 5, Insightful

      AC> Nor are you charged by the byte of spam delivered to your email account.

      How do you know? A lot of people are charged either for bandwidth, bytes transferred, telco connect time, ISP connect time, or some combination of those. It depends on where you live and/or what kind of service you have. Where I live, I pay per minute for both the ISP and telco connection. Any spam I get costs me money from my pocket. Want another example? How about a company with a co-lo or virtually hosted server in a data center? They may well be paying for both bandwidth and transfer volume. The more megabytes of spam they get per month, the higher their IT costs are.

      Spam also costs money to the people whose relays are hijacked to send it. Some might argue that they deserve it, although I wouldn't agree. Their incompetence does not give anyone the right to violate their systems. Even if you think they deserve it, however, *I* don't deserve the end result - spam.

      My mail is forwarded through a very aggressively anti-spam ISP where I used to live, so I don't see nearly as much as my wife does (her local ISP does nothing at all about spam), but one spam is one too many.

      Suing spammers will help, but to really get to them, spamming will have to become a crime. Use a relay, go to jail.

  2. backbone by Eric+Smith · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Perhaps if more ISPs took action, we might see the backbone providers doing so as well?
    Much though I hate spam (I get several hundred a day), I certainly hope you're not proposing that the backbone providers should try to classify or filter traffic. This should be done near the edge of the internet, not in the middle. The risk of misidentification is too high.
  3. They are not just going after the spammers by Billly+Gates · · Score: 5, Interesting
    They going after the people who paid the spammers and not just the spammers themselves.

    If a company pays a spammer and but can risk being sued then they will think twice before paying them to spam. They will look for more ethical ways to advertise their products. This will kill spam dead more then any laws or regulations because it will hit the spammers at their wallets. If they have no customers then they are out of bussiness.

    Even if the spammers get away and forge like hell the FBI or the ISP can just go after the company paying the spammer instead. Nice.

  4. Not a dupe by djupedal · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...it is a 'parallel post'.

  5. Difference.. by Inoshiro · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Online spam can't be opted out of, nor is there a cost to the spammer for sending it.

    I think the greater weirdness is how /.ers hate spam, but when AOL fights spam (by blocking netblocks and sueing spammers), most /.ers who are moderated up are against it.

    So which is it? Do we support the largest ISP's action against spam, or do we suck up the spam?

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  6. Re:Double standard of community opinon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I may be off my mark here as IANAL but there is a big difference. AOL has proven that a) there has been a tangible violation of the law b) they have tracked the violater back to a particular system(s) c) they are suing the violator and not the company the violator is using to send email.

    In the RIAA vs. Verizon case RIAA was suing to get the subscriber information without ever proving that there were specific incidences of copyright violation (instead charging that P2P is ONLY used to steal music). In addition they did not sue copyright violators (as a "Jane or John Doe") and then use supoenas to get the personons name. Instead they sued Verizon to get the information directly. Verizon's argument from the begining was that that RIAA was skipping step one- 1) Show evidence of a crime and step two- 2) Seek to take action against said anonymous criminal (this may seem odd, but our legal system allows us to sue an unknown person/ group and fill in their name later). Instead RIAA sued the people who "facilitated" the crime and stated that all of Verizons customer records should be on display to the RIAA Nazi SS forces without proof or ponderance in court.

    AOL, as stated, is instead going directly after the offenders and using the power of the courts to get specific information about specific crimes, not all customer information at will and on demand.

    Just my $0.02

  7. Evil Quotient factors by mr.+methane · · Score: 5, Funny

    Perhaps I can help clarify the method of assigning an EQ (Evil Quotient) to an organization. As on Slashdot, a higher number is generally good.

    CEO has visible body piercings: +1
    Company is profitable: +1 .. for more than two business quarters: -2
    They make something you like: +2 .. but you have to actually pay for it: -3
    CEO denounces another CEO with a 0 EQ: +1
    Company allows wearing of sandals in office: +1
    Company requires workers to actually work: -4
    Company has more than 100 employees: -1
    Board meetings are held in exotic locations: +2 .. specifically, non-extradition countries: -3
    Company changes name after "that incident": -2
    Company makes the most popular products: -4
    Company makes neat stuff you'd never buy: +3

    I'm only hitting the major check-offs here.