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Interview with Jordan Hubbard About DarwinPorts
Gentu writes "OSNews hosts an interview with Jordan Hubbard (of Apple, OpenDarwin, and FreeBSD fame) where they discuss DarwinPorts and how they compare to Fink. There is also a hint from Jordan that there might be some of the FreeBSD 5.x advancements to be found in Mac OS X 10.3 (Panther) that is coming out, reportedly, this autumn."
What I suspect you are really saying is that you would like to run OS X but don't want to to shell out the cash to buy the required hardware. What you fail to realise is that a soon as you take OS X and make it available on the huge variety of Intel-based platforms, it does not "Just Work!" anymore. Any amount of time spent trying to find the right drivers for Linux or Windows will tell you that. There is a lot to be said for having control of the OS and the hardware on which it runs.
If you want OS X, get a job and get a Mac like the rest of us had to.
Modest doubt is called the beacon of the wise. - William Shakespeare
What's wrong with the Windows Task Manager? It has worked flawlessly every time I've had to kill IE (which is usually do to the Acrobat plugin).
Here, for your reading enjoyment, is the text of the last time I responded to this question. (And here is the link.) Please distribute this text/link to every nerd on earth so that we can dispense with this question once and for all.
The lack of clones is the major problem with Apple? Sure, it keeps prices high and marketshare low. It's true. It is the worst thing about the platform.
And yet, it is also the one single thing that makes them unique in the market and gives them value. The vertical integration they have (hardware/os/iapps) allows them to a) innovate their product line faster and more radically than some other hardware/software makers and b) allows them to sell an entire end-to-end solution (like firewire-imovie-idvd-superdrive) with a user experience better than anyone elses. These things are at the core of what makes Apple Apple. Take them away - take away the vertical integration by doing clones - and what you get is cheaper boxes and much rejoicing...and a dead/dying platform within 2 years because it has lost that which made it valuable to begin with.
Bonus point: Why should anyone care? Certainly Mac users should care, but others should, too. Apple has an influence on the personal computer industry that is vastly disproportionate to its marketshare. They innovate. Others follow. Therefore, a healthy Apple is good for the industry. Mac clones = bad for Apple = bad for the pc industry.
You like your Macintosh better than me, don't you Dave? Dave? Can you hear me Dave?
Here's the link to the MacEdition report this guy's talking about:
http://www.macedition.com/nmr/nmr_20021112.php
"He'd be a broader guy if he had dropped acid once." - Steve Jobs on Bill Gates
I guess I haven't noticed the premiums that Apple charges for notebooks. I'm looking to purchase a notebook, and am trying to decide if I shuld go iBook or not. Everyone tells me that Apple is more expensive, but for their notebooks I don't see that. Similarily configured notebooks from Apple, as far as I can tell are ~$300 LESS then notebooks from Dell or Compaq.
-Brentthe 8600 is less than 100mhz, so that may have something to do with it, i have a powermac 9100 that has 12 dimm slots and takes up to 1.5gb memory. it smokes on os9.2.2 :) seriously though, the 8600 is a dinosaur and 64 megs of ram is inadequate for anything above os 8.6, unless you are a wizard with extension, and that is probably not the case.
that 8600 can be ugraded to a viable machine. my 9100 can get a processor upgrade into g4 territory for a couple hundred (a bit expensive for my wallet), take 1.5gb ram, has 6 pci slots and plenty of room for 5.25 and 3.5 drives. the 8600 on the other hand takes Apple SIMMs and is not something worth salvaging as a mac machine. put linux on it and have some fun. the 8500 i play with with debian runs way better than my old ibm, which stacks up even in megahertz, disk space (ide on x86, scsi on ppc) and ram (32mb). they are identical for all intents and purposes, but powerpc architechture will always do better.
that is not a 300mhz machine, either. maybe 300watts, but that is upgradable to 400
Good joke, wrong crowd. All Mac freaks know that Apple releases stuff on Tuesdays (typically). For at least 2 months now, and probbably more, both a new 15" Aluminum Powerbook and a new iPod have been coming.
Alas, not this Tuesday. Maybe NEXT Tuesday. Of course, nowadays the popular money is on Apr 28 (a Monday???), but who really knows.
do not feed him, he posts this to every apple story. plus hes wanking it to the fact that you people are responding to him, yes even this post too.
Wow man, you really like to post this, don't you... http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=59343&threshol d=0&commentsort=3&tid=179&mode=thread&cid=5644317. If you have been waiting for that file copy for the weeks since you've last posted, may I suggest killing that process? In the mean time, come up with some new material to add to our discussion, Mr. Troll.
today is spelling optional day.
Jordan Hubbard is very much involved in FreeBSD. He is not the leeader but he is a core developer with CVS write access. His involvement with Mac OS X and FreeBSD helps both in ways that are invisible (most of the time) to the end user.
CDE open sourced! https://sourceforge.net/projects/cdesktopenv/
Funny....I just set up fink on my iBook the other day after setting up XFree86. I plug in at work and can use xdm query to our HP, Solaris and linux database boxes. I use it has a handy extra terminal. I also do recording with my Bluegrass band with my iBook (why I bought it) and OS X has made it so I can use it at work too..(Oracle DBA) now that there is a OCI client, JDBC clients for 10.1 and 9iR2 for 10.2, OpenOffice and Mozilla I don't forsee needing Microsoft products for anything...(goodbye IE in a few days)
I am on 10.1 still but will be popping for 10.2 shortly as drivers and audio apps are now ready for my MOTU 828. (no need for MacOS 9.2 then)
(I don't work for Apple BTW)
Certainly OS X is IMHO the most interesting OS right now.
I say if you are buying a notebook get a Mac...intall fink, Mozilla, OpenOffice and leave MS behind.