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Worlds Largest Computer Party, In Progress

cyb97 writes "As I write this the worlds largest computerparty is going on in Hamar, Norway. The Gathering 2003 is in action with over 5.000 participants! Webcams and participants are live on the internet through a 1 gigabit line, so you better lock down your servers tonight!" Some of the webcam images are just surreal. Update: 04/17 01:00 GMT by T : Speaking of images, reader vvizard (currently Gathered) directs you to this directory of high-resolution images.

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  1. Geek Mecca by dtolton · · Score: 4, Informative

    This looks a lot like Woodstock for computer geeks.

    The Tech Group (TG) has a page explaining the differences
    between a "LAN Party" and a "Computer Party", here is an
    excerpt:

    "But LAN party and computer party is the same thing!"
    No. LAN party and computer party is NOT the same thing. At a
    LAN party everything is centered around the network. Everybody
    just sits there, staring at their screens whilst copying porn,
    warez and playing games. A computer party is much more. There
    are competitions, both in computer games and computer
    art. People meet, people talk, and there is plenty to see and
    experience even when away from you computer. (I didn't even
    bring my computer to TG01, and I had a great time!). Sometimes
    there are shows on the stage (LAN parties don't even have a
    stage), and even speeches you can go to to learn more computer
    stuff. How about learning something new and fun to impress your
    friends when you get back home?

    If you want to read the full page go here:
    http://tg.nlc.no/notalan.html

    We need to get one of these going in the US. :-)

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    1. Re:Geek Mecca by Eneff · · Score: 2, Informative

      We had one.

      It was called NAID. (Or wait... was it in Canada? I forget...)

      In any event, it folded after a few years.

    2. Re:Geek Mecca by override11 · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, we rich geeks bring it all too.

      1) The leather padded seat (folding chairs suck ass)
      2) The tower with 6 HDD's all with rounded cables and neon light kit for oohs and ahhs
      3) The flat panel monitor (beats lugginng that old viewsonic P810 21", you know which one I'm talkin about)
      4) Premium headphones with extension cable (nothing worse than gettin cozy with your PC since that 5 foot cable barely come to the front of your pc)
      5) And last but not least, a laptop, to scour the network with ShareScan and download movies, iso's, and games while fragging your friends into oblivian.

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    3. Re:Geek Mecca by zaffir · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A LAN can have all of that. There's no golden rule prohibiting a stage (last MPCON i went to had a pretty big one with a dj and other stuff), or coding, or interacting with other people. In fact, every LAN i go to has lots of interactions that don't involve the computer. There's more reasons to go to them than low pings for gaming and lots of bandwidth for file sharing.

      True, a "computer party" emphasizes that and more, but that doens't mean everyone just stares at their screens at a LAN.

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    4. Re:Geek Mecca by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Geekstock?

    5. Re:Geek Mecca by ciroknight · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hey, have you heard of Million Man Lan? That's this lan party with 4k people in the us, with about 1k in kentucky (my ol home) and 3k out in cali connected over oc3. Pretty fun, but sadly im not going to be able to make the next one :

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    6. Re:Geek Mecca by zsazsa · · Score: 2, Informative

      It was in Montreal in 1995 and 1996. It's still sorta around, at naid.net though it's only really about coding now.

      There have been other smaller North American parties, but nothing approaching the size of NAID.

  2. hmmm by fjordboy · · Score: 2, Funny

    If I wanted to watch geeks playing on computers I'd either go to work or get a mirror. Webcams...bah!

  3. No Alcohol by AppyPappy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Beverages containing alcohol is not allowed inside the hall or anywhere near it

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    Well, what's the point then? 5,000 sober guys all trying to impress each other with the size of their equipment. It's like Hell.

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    1. Re:No Alcohol by gl4ss · · Score: 4, Informative

      well, nobody else made a proper comment to this.. so here goes:

      that means that if you want to drink inside, you have to smugle the beverages, which means that when you want to drink you wander outside(besides, it's norway, drinking is f**** expensive). also it would be hell for the organizers to get permits for an event where drinking would be allowed and minors would be present, also, this way, they can deny access by all the guys that are _TOO_ drunk for their own good(happens at most parties, that are 'alcohol free').

      the 'no booze' is just a remark that the organizers try to keep the boozing to minimum and not scare away any parents too(would you let your kid into an event that said 'drinking is ok, bring your own booze'). however drinking has been, is , and will be a very common in demoparties.

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    2. Re:No Alcohol by matvei · · Score: 4, Informative
      If you had ever participated in a demo party (or "computer party" as TG organizers have called it for the past few years) you'd know that the "no alcohol" policy doesn't mean that people don't drink alcohol ;-)

      Usually the majority of demo sceners (the people who come there to participate in the art competitions) spend most of their time outside the party hall, boozing around open fire with other likeminded folks that they can only meet at parties.

      When the Finnish equivalent party, Assembly (it is also one of the oldest demoparties along with The Gathering) is held, there is a shadow party called Boozembly going on in the nearby woods and you can find all the demo scene legends out there when there are no competitions running.

      I hope that the quality of releases at TG will be OK, but I'm afraid that the majority of people will go to Breakpoint instead which is a strictly demo scene oriented party.

      1500 drunk guys all trying to impress each other with real-time computer generated art. It might not be heaven but it's far from Hell.

      Oh well, back to coding my demo for BP..

  4. Oops by xanadu-xtroot.com · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think we all slashdotted Norway...

    /Me high fives everyone.

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    1. Re:Oops by MoonBuggy · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...participants are live on the internet through a 1 gigabit line...

      Well at least it serves those 500 errors very quickly...

  5. Heh by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Funny

    "As I write this the worlds largest computerparty is going on in Hamar, Norway. The Gathering 2003 is in action with over 5.000 participants!"

    They'd have 10,000 participants if they brought datess!

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    1. Re:Heh by telstar · · Score: 5, Funny
      "They'd have 10,000 participants if they brought dates!"
      • Yeah, except for the fact the half of them are dating somebody from IRC who's actually a guy, and the other half have developed crushes on their Sims.

  6. In most of Europe by Razor+Blades+are+Not · · Score: 5, Informative

    they use a "." instead of a "," to delimit their thousands. It's not a mistake. It's a communication deficit. Get over it.

    1. Re:In most of Europe by morbuz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yep, an I hate it. Annoying giving coordinates as ((0,4),(2,4),(2,4)). "." as a decimalmark is some of the (few) things they got right in UK&US.

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    2. Re:In most of Europe by mrand · · Score: 2, Informative

      > And it's gibibit, not gigabit (unless it's actually 1 000 000 000 bits per sec)

      Considering they are likely referring to a gigabit Ethernet connection, gigabit is correct.

      GbE uses a 125.00 MHz (or divided version of that) reference clock, multiplied by ten, to transmit data with. When you remove the 25% 8B/10B overhead (how efficient is Ethernet again?), it effectively transmits a bit on every clock cycle of the 1000 MHz clock.

      gibi (and kibi) are typically used with regard to things that have address lines (memory).

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    3. Re:In most of Europe by phorm · · Score: 4, Insightful
      • /. is an American hosted site.
      • It is read all around the world
      • The event is not in America, it's in Europe
      • Residents more local to the event would find this more interesting, as they might want to join in if they have time, or sign up for the next event - unless you feel like a flight to Norway in order to participate?

      but it does give rise to childish comments.
      I think you just explained yourself readily enough. The explanation of the . is fine, no need to make a big issue of it.
  7. If you want... by Niles_Stonne · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have both of the girl's phone numbers, if anyone is interested...

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    1. Re:If you want... by Beek · · Score: 2, Informative

      Congratulations! You got the joke!

    2. Re:If you want... by Mikey-San · · Score: 4, Funny

      I guess if you can't use 'em, give 'em away, right?

      Waste not, want not! :-)

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      Mikey-San

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  8. My mate has gone to this.. by Idimmu+Xul · · Score: 5, Funny

    and he's taken over 400 CDR discs with him.

    Not that I'm emplying anything ;) I can't wait untill he gets back \o/ *cough*

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  9. Pr0n & warez? Not! by IAmRenegadeX · · Score: 5, Informative

    A LOT of great stuff has come out of this event, if you follow the demoscene. I remember checking constantly to download the Amiga demo winners from this event. That stuff was cutting edge! I haven't looked at the last few years' winners, but I bet the competitions are still churning out some amazing code.

    A few of the coding groups at these parties went on to form actual "money making" companies, like Team 17.

    While I wouldn't characterize The Gathering as a Geek Think Tank, it most certainly ain't all about pr0n, warez, and fragging.

    1. Re:Pr0n & warez? Not! by bheerssen · · Score: 2, Funny

      While I wouldn't characterize The Gathering as a Geek Think Tank, it most certainly ain't all about pr0n, warez, and fragging.

      It's not? Damn, I guess I'll have to cancel my flight.

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  10. "Party report" by termos · · Score: 5, Informative

    I am sitting at The Gathering at the moment, and I can say that there is not only gamers here. They made one section of the area a demoscene area (with a no gamers allowed banner).
    It's a step in the right direction.

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    1. Re:"Party report" by argmanah · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I am sitting at The Gathering at the moment, and I can say that there is not only gamers here. They made one section of the area a demoscene area (with a no gamers allowed banner).
      Ah, the demoscene. Am I the only one reminded of conventions like Assembly '9X where groups like Future Crew and others made our machines do ridiculous things?

      It's hard not to miss the good old days before bloatware became the status quo.
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    2. Re:"Party report" by MagPulse · · Score: 4, Informative
      Future Crew was ahead of computer game companies, so they get credit for "making machines do ridiculous things". Today game companies have budgets rivaling movie studios, so they get all the attention. But small teams and even individuals can still make great demos. Here are the three big demo parties and some recent results (may not be the latest): Here are some other sites with demos:
      • Pouet - Has a big list of demos, intros, and lots of comments.
      • 256b.com - If the 2-10 meg demos on pouet are too bloated for you, check these out.
      • CFXweb - A community web site with forums and a magazine.
      My favorite demo of the moment is IV-Racer by The Lost Souls, though it uses mostly pre-made 3D models instead of calculated effects. For a good tiny one, try this one by Haujobb. They both have incredible atmosphere that I'd love to have in a game.
  11. Only gigabit? by cperciva · · Score: 4, Funny

    Those poor geeks... that's only 200kbps per person. Even my cable modem is faster than that.

  12. Great Googly-Moogly by 0x00000dcc · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Is it me, or is the dude at the bottom center-right of this image of the gathering using a plasma tv as a monitor? If not, sure does look like a 42 inch screen. Maybe it's a new Apple flat panel ;-)

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  13. Helpdesk call by HaloZero · · Score: 3, Funny

    'Um, hello? I'd like to get Norway installed on my PC. It's Mac compatible, right?'

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  14. What is happening? by termos · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you are interested in what will happen here in the next few days, take a look here: Schedule.

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  15. Wow... by TopShelf · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just imagine the size of the pizza that they'll order for delivery...

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  16. sounds like by SHEENmaster · · Score: 2, Funny

    this has dangerous potential for becoming diluted with no-nothings and w@nn@b3 31337 |-|@>
    I think the US should do a Coding Party and show Norway how to have some REAL fun!

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  17. Obligatory Beowulf comment by binaryDigit · · Score: 2

    Imagine if everyone connected their computers and created a beowulf cluster!

    They could then calculate the average time it's been since any one of them actually had a date (hopefully no overflow errors occur).

  18. Downloads 'r' Us by semaj · · Score: 2, Interesting

    On their website, they link to their own Harlem-client for Windows for browsing SMB shares.

    It seems to work from outside of the party too - anyone looking for a few thousand Windows boxes with shared files on might want to take a look. :o)

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  19. So people won't get "Hamared" by Idou · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you see this message, you need to increase your "comment threshold."

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    1. Re:So people won't get "Hamared" by pellaeon · · Score: 2, Funny

      Let's mod parent up and have a very quiet evening :)

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  20. Surreal? by heldlikesound · · Score: 5, Funny

    Only on Slashdot could a blurry picture of what appears to be a few thousand computer users called surreal. Not only that, but one of the other webcams is pointing at a guys power supply. Breathtaking.

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  21. Re:Bah by gl4ss · · Score: 4, Interesting

    eh, so?

    the gathering, the party, assemblies, and other european DEMOSCENE-parties are first, and foremost meant to be DEMOSCENE-parties, they're not meant to hell-of-a-size lan gaming parties anyways. they're about having good time, having couple of beers, shooting the breeze, checking some cool new/ancient hardware, toying around, catching up with old times. you're meant to compete with your creativy, not with your speed of wrist and accuracy in sniping.

    the bigger demoscene events have been slowly turning into laning events though which is a shame.. the unity is left out, and the newer attendees don't often even know the history behind the events..

    the number of attendees has nothing to do with the amount of fun, a lot of the smaller demoparties have been very funny events that have left many good memories.

    if you're only a _gamer_ you take quakecon over that, if you're a demoscener, you don't even think quakecon as an option (except maybe have your own shadow party in the woods, telling legends over a camp-fire drinking beer).

    btw, is it really so now that the gathering is _the_ biggest? 5000 for real? couldnt find accurate information on their webpage.

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  22. Re:only 5.000? by angle_slam · · Score: 2, Funny
    5 computers? Reminds me of the Simpsons quote:
    "Mr. Simpson, this government computer can process over nine tax returns per day. Did you really think you could fool it?"
  23. I'd love to go to this... by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...just to see the result of somebody calling me a camping fag in person.

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  24. Oh, the carnage! by Gefiltefish11 · · Score: 2, Funny


    The mass of unwashed humanity reminds me of another festive event

  25. TODO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny


    1. express mock confusion over European method of writing numbers
    2. crack joke about the stench
    3. post link to phony mirror (no, not goatse)
    4. make inane soviet russia quip
    5. write some "funny" source code
    6. claim that hussein/bush is dead
    7. submit more xbox articles
    8. craft a list that ends with "PROFIT!!!"

  26. Re:Yes, but... by Sesse · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Try to do that with a full B-net to scan, and 5000 people each doing the scanning. There was a reason why we went for the centralized model. :-)

    (Oh, and I've blocked it for outside access now. :-) )

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  27. The Gathering by mkro · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I went to The Gathering every year from 93 till 00 (except 95), and it just got more and more crap. That is, from the perspective of someone who is more interested in the creative aspect.

    • From year to year the following increases:
    • Younger and younger participants.
    • More and more gamers.
    • The focus IS on the network, network games and "bringing empty harddrives". Oh, and meet the cute girl you talked to on #teenchat
    • "Look, my dad bought me bigger soundsystem than you got from your dad. Now, hear. Everyone hear."
    • Ticket prices. Food prices.
    • Nazi security guards. "Does it smell beer here? Please come with me."
    • Sponsors trying to adapt the compos to fit the "market" more.

    It might be me that got old and grumpy, but in the end it seemed like ~95 percent of the people didn't even realize that there were demo compos going on, they just turned their stereos louder.

    The Gathering is a LAN party, even though they throw in a striptease, a DJ or a "Microsoft talks about their exciting new technology" conference in the middle of it. DO NOT GO THERE IF YOU COME FOR THE DEMO SCENE.

    If you want creativity, check out Breakpoint, a party held in Germany from the 19th till the 21st of April. Yep, this weekend. I'm going, and I am from Norway.

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  28. worse than that.. no caffeine by abhisarda · · Score: 2

    Sales of consumer products containing a defined amount of coffeine is not permitted in Norway g..

    WTF?
  29. Karm's gonna roast for this by thatguywhoiam · · Score: 4, Funny
    But I simply cannot resist.

    AGENT SMITH
    Can you hear me, CmdrTaco? I'm going to be honest with you.

    I hate this place. This zoo. This prison. This Gathering, whatever you want to call it, I can't stand it any longer.

    It's the smell, if there is such a thing. I feel saturated by it. I can taste their sweaty mice and every time I do, I fear that I've somehow been infected by it.

    I must get out of here, I must get free. In this mind are the cheats. My cheats. Once the Gathering is gone, there's no need for me to be here. Do you understand? I need the cheats. I have to get some fresh air.

    You have to tell me how... or you're going to die.

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  30. Re:The Gathering - Now and Then by Lobo93 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Roger that! Back in the old days(hark-hark), when I first attended the Gathering(I think it was the second one staged at the time) we had no friggin' CS or RvS, and to vent our geek-rage we had to blow up an Atari in the nearby soccerfield! Heh, I guess the bastard flew some 10-15 meters into the air - and the crowd went into a frenzy(you would as well; couple the jihad of Amiga vs Atari with mamut-sized coffeine-pills and things tend to get ugly ;) )

    Anyhow, the Gathering was indeed a demoscene-affair at the time, mostly emphasising the the C64 and the aforementioned Amiga. Those pesky sub-geeks who dared enter with their PC's and Atari's where quickly stuffed in a corner, only to sulk and cry vengance. Heh, weird how things have turned out..

    This event must have been in 1991 if I recollect it correctly; I remember watching "T2 - Judgement Day", which was on those huuuuge fsck'in' CDROM's - pre-cinema as it was, I must admit the warez-scene was well and kicking in those days as well: Razor 1911 anyone! lol!

    And there were babes as well! That's right, a crowd of exactly 2 females made it into the building. I guess there's more of these oddities now, but still marginal.

    Anyone remember "Das Boot" by U-96(Alex Cristensen)? If I'm not mistaken, the dude was attending the Gathering when he made the finishing touch to the song - I can still feel the horror of trying to hold on to my speakers, coca-cola, pizza and joystick at the same time whilst this guy shook the air(and ground) with a criminally loud droning of bass and torpedo-drums! Who gave a shit for those eardrums anyway?

    The Gathering '91 was: a week of hard techno and AC/DC, depraved of sleep, eating pizza and drinking coke, dropping caffeine-pills, the frequent lynching of unlucky bastards who accidently tripped on the power-cables and unplugged 50+ boxen, trying for hours to fix a mess of assembler-code only to end up with a psychedelic raster-line, admiring those hardcore Oslo-geeks in leather-jackets only to get punched in the face upon code-inquiring; Ah! Those were the days!

    CS-fluffy wannabe-geeks can kiss my shiny pale ass!

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