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Nebula Award Winners, Hugo Nominees Announced

CBNobi writes "The 2002 Nebula Award winners have been announced this weekend. The winner for best novel was American Gods by Neil Gaiman (reviewed here at Slashdot), and the winner for best script was LotR:The Fellowship of the Ring. The nominees for the 2003 Hugo Awards have also been announced; Episodes of Enterprise, Firefly, and Buffy are all nominated for best short form dramatic presentation, and LotR and Spirited Away are among the nominees for best long form presentation."

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  1. Hugo 2003 - Short Form Dramatic by ZPO · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hmmm,

    Firefly - Cancelled (and it was just getting fun)

    Enterprise - Might be cancelled soon

    Buffy - Wrapping up the series? (don't watch it, but recall the wife mentioning it.)

    Should it be seen as a sign of the times that the nominees are all either going or gone? Makes you wonder about the intelligence of the masses. Oh wait, we already know about the intelligence of the masses.

  2. The problem with network TV shows. by MtViewGuy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unfortunately, it also says way too much about how short-sighted TV executives are nowadays.

    TV executives frequently do not like hour-long dramas due to the high cost of production per hour; they still (unfortunately for us TV viewers :( ) like reality shows because reality shows have relatively low cost of production per hour. Even with its exotic locales, the best-known reality show (Survivor) is still a bargain compared to shows like the now-cancelled Firefly, the soon-to-end Buffy: The Vampire Slayer, and the potentially-cancelled Enterprise.

    The days of a network letting a show find its audience are long over. You'll never see anything like how NBC allowed Hill Street Blues to eventually become a big hit again.

  3. Re:I'm glad Ian McLeod didn't read anything by Colm+Buckley · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That's an amusing troll; it's a little too reactionary to be convincing, however.

    For what it's worth, China Miéville, who was nominated, is considerably further to the "left" than Ian McLeod; in fact Mr Miéville has stood for Parliament on behalf of a political party you would no doubt dub "sophomoric Marxist".

    Not everyone subscribes to the last-man-standing-wins model of American capitalism.

  4. Re:Newflash by andy666 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    no it's really just the opposite. people treat "art" as this holy thing that isn't supposed to be something enjoyable.

  5. Re:I'm glad Ian McLeod didn't read anything by j-b0y · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ian McLeod is Scottish, for a start. I know it seems like a subtle difference, but at least try and get it right.

    Ian Mcleod is a socialist and has written some pretty intersting stuff about how the future might work if you do not accept the inevitability of near-future societies that are nation-state economies driven by Capitalism. He nails the US, because of its arch-Capitalist nature, and ironically tags the UN as behoven to the US.

    I guess he got pretty fed up with seeing the future solely portrayed as a Captialist utopia, something which he disagrees with. It's nothing personal, just another point of view.

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  6. Re:Newflash by Michael+Dorfman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    OK, maybe it's me, but I didn't find "American Gods" particularly enjoyable. In fact, I found it to be pretty lame. If that was the best Science Fiction novel of the year, I guess I have a better understanding of why I tend not to read much SF.

  7. Re:Newflash by bsartist · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think it was actually a fairly slow year for SF. Kim Stanley Robinson's "The Years of Rice and Salt" got good reviews, but for me it dragged - I couldn't even finish it. Maybe I'll try again. David Brin's "Kiln People" was better, but it wasn't his best.

    To be honest, I think it's been a slow decade for SF. Many of the Great Ones of the genre - from Asimov to Zelazny - are gone, and the younger generation seems to still be searching for its voice.

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  8. Long form presentation by bsartist · · Score: 3, Funny

    At 3+ hours, The Fellowship of the Ring gives new meaning to the term "long form presentation." ;-)

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  9. Re:I'm glad Ian McLeod didn't read anything by bsartist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm glad to see the Nebula voters have voted for right-thinking, American-proud authors like Gaimain

    LOL! Neil Gaiman is British.

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  10. Re:Newflash by RickHunter · · Score: 3, Interesting

    And IMHO, its found it in Wil McCarthy. If you haven't read The Collapsium, do so now. Reasonably hard science fiction by someone who can actually write? Sign me up!

    Seriously, there's a lot of good new science fiction and space opera authors popping up recently. Some good fantasy authors too. Most are still finding their way and struggling to stand out amidst the tide of mindless Tolkien clones and talentless hacks, but they are there. And then there's older space opera/sci-fi authors, like Bujold, that're still doing good work. I think the '90s was the slow decade, and what we're seeing now is a resurgance.

    As for TV, give up on the American networks already. They haven't produced anything worthwhile since Next Generation and Babylon-5, and they're not going to anytime soon. Not while they treat the viewer as an inconvenient obstacle between them and their money and use legislation instead of innovation to protect their revenue. Turn to Japan for your sci-fi TV fix, and watch shows like Crest of the Stars (and Banner of the Stars, and the other soon-to-follow sequel series), Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Gundam, Macross, and the new Ghost in the Shell TV series.

    (Anime sci-fi shows named off the top of my head. There's a couple dozen other great ones you can find if you look.)

  11. Charles Stross by smugfunt · · Score: 3, Informative
    Nominations for the Best Novelette Category
    (377 people submitted nominations for 149 novelettes)

    "Halo" by Charles Stross (Asimov's 6/02)


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  12. Re:Vote for firefly! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Nebula Awards are selected by the writers themselves.

    The Hugo Awards are awarded by members of that year's World Science Fiction Convention, which this year is Torcon 3 in Toronto.

    If you just want to vote without attending the convention, you can buy a supporting membership. It's rather pricey ($40 US), but you get some other perqs. The attending membership is $185 US.

    I went to the Chicago Worldcon a few years back. It was a blast! Expensive, but fun.

  13. Farscape and Others Forgotten by derrickh · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Enterprise gets 2 nominations and Whedon gets 3?
    How about dumping the Trek spinoffs and put a couple of episodes of Farscape in. I'll put 'Prayer' up agaist 'Night in SickBay' any day of the week. And 'Carbon Creek' pales up against 'Kansas'.

    Also, this shows you how important mindshare is. By many peoples account, Firefly was a show with potential, but it wasn't really good yet. But Whedon's name on it made people believe that it has to be great and deserves an award.

    Solaris was easily the most 'sci-fi' movie of the year but Spiderman gets a nod instead?

    D

    1. Re:Farscape and Others Forgotten by Khomar · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually, Firefly was already quite good in its first season. The acting and writing was very good, and the crew really had excellent chemistry. It is true that the show did not really have a strong plot (it was just starting to get into the main story), but the characters were already well defined and joy to watch. There was a good amount of mystery that definitely added to the enjoyment. Unfortunately, we will never get to see where they were going.

      I have over the years watched less and less television due to the poor quality of the nearly every show until Firefly came along. I did not watch it because of Whedon. I had very little experience with any of his shows, and being somewhat anit-vampires, his name was actually more of a detriment in my mind (misguided or not). I watched the show because I was hoping to find a good sci-fi show that I could really get into, and I did. In my mind, the quality of the show had little to do with names but rather the care put into the dialog, the attention to detail (no sound in space), and the incredible acting and chemistry (especially for a first season). Its really too bad that Firefly is gone for good.

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  14. I feel really old :-( by esconsult1 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I grew up reading Niven, Blish, Asimov, Silverberg Vance and others. Its kinda hard for me to start reading some of the new masters, not because I wouldn't like them, but maybe because I'm too lazy to explore new books (yeah, I know that's bad).

    But my dilemma is this, I've read all Sci-Fi/Fantasy from Asimov, Niven, Vance, but have not yet finished all the works of the old masters.

    Can any younger (or at least more flexible) Slashdot reader suggest a few authors that they've read and liked? I don't want to get into serials right now, perhaps something that is sort of standalone would be better as an introduction to a new author, I think.

    1. Re:I feel really old :-( by Scarblac · · Score: 4, Informative

      To my amazement, no-one has mentioned Vernor Vinge yet. His last two novels, _A Fire Upon The Deep_ and _A Deepness In The Sky_ are absolutely superb. They both won both Hugo and Nebula, iirc.

      Another author I like is Greg Egan. Try _Diaspora_ and/or _Permutation City_. His ideas are way out there, but always very interesting.

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  15. hugo nomination by kissmachine · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ha! hey there -- so my husband and pals read slashdot regularly and one of his buddies messaged me in SILC to tell me about this post. all you people who hasn't read SF since the old greats should read my book (it's a finalist for best related book). it's called better to have loved: the life of judith merril. she was my grandmother, known as the little mother of science fiction. more info

  16. FYI: SF's Trade Paper by Embedded+Geek · · Score: 4, Informative
    To follow the Nebula race or pretty much anything about the SF or Fantasy trade, you just can't beat LocusMag, the online version of Locus. Some reviews (the print version is known for the most exhaustive reviews of SF - anything printed anywhere gets at least a mention), but the big emphasis is on fandom, awards (not just the Hugos & Nebulas), opening and closing of new markets, and ongoing trends (check out this piece on how SARS, war, and economic changes are turning our world into one that SF readers will find familiar).

    It also has a disturbingly complete necrology of recently deceased members of the SF community. It seems like every other headline is "So & so dies," but that's to be expected with all the graying pulp era artists, writers, and fans.

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