The Return of Chewbacca

My God, the spoilers! by Sancho · 2003-04-26 05:15 · Score: 2, Insightful

WHY can't the editors realize that there are people who don't want these spoilers, even seemingly minor ones like this?
It's extremely inconsiderate. Presumably they don't want people to stop reading their site, right?

Re:My God, the spoilers! by inertia187 · 2003-04-26 05:25 · Score: 4, Insightful

Spoiler from what? The preview? You're were going to find out sooner or later before the movie.

A spoiler would be something like, oh say, that Chewbacca is bald in this episode or that he's gay or something. That would be a spoiler...not that there's anything wrong with that.

If you want a spoiler, how's this - I hear Darth Vader won't be in this episode. How's that for spoiler?

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Re:My God, the spoilers! by Sancho · 2003-04-26 05:31 · Score: 2, Insightful

There are lots of people intentionally avoiding all information about Star Wars. It's not particularly hard to do for movie trailers and television spots, especially if you don't see that many movies to begin with. The first movie that will have the trailer is always highly publicized and you can avoid it fairly easily. After that, you've had warning and can avoid future trailers. For TV, it's a matter of turning it off while the commercial is on. But when you aren't expecting it and slashdot posts a spoiler as a headline (again), then it's kind of hard to avoid it.
Sure, it's a relatively minor thing, but the editors have taken a lot of flak over the past year or so over posting spoilers in headlines. You'd think they'd learn, especially with something as big as this that a lot of people are intentionally avoiding.
Re:My God, the spoilers! by letxa2000 · 2003-04-26 06:55 · Score: 5, Insightful

It's the characters that made the first Star Wars movies a hit. The characters in general and, specifically, Harrison Ford. If you take out Harrison Ford from the original movies you get, in all honesty, a pretty dull 6 hours of movies. Try to imagine it--he's really the only one with any charisma or humor whatsoever.
What's been lacking in Episode I and II isn't so much a really cool plot--the plots of the other 3 weren't that impressive, they were just fun to watch due to how the characters played it out. What's been lacking in the first two Episodes is someone(s) who is/are truly humorous and/or charismatic.
Re:My God, the spoilers! by dvdeug · 2003-04-26 08:05 · Score: 4, Insightful

given that Chewey is one of the most beloved characters in all of Star Wars, I really think this would have gone over better as a surprise.

What are the odds that it would have been a surprise by the time that Star Wars came out?
Re:My God, the spoilers! by Anonymous Coward · 2003-04-26 14:30 · Score: 1, Insightful

You are 100% correct. Episode's I and II have been painful to watch in parts. The actor's have been like robots, it's really hard to like them. But the banter between Han Solo and Princess Leia was great in the original!

The only time you laugh in Episodes I and II is because of how poor some parts of it are. What the hell was with C3PO saying "Oh what a Drag" when he was being dragged along the ground, what a pathetic attempt at humour!

And what the HELL was with the love thing in EPII? I mean, sure if it had to be there, fine. But they could've made it believable. There was NO chemistry there whatsoever, and some of the lines uttered by Anikin made me cringe they were so corny and lame. Compare that to Han Solo and Princess Leia... I _wanted_ them to get together, they had chemistry, it didn't make me cringe (quite the opposite, I _enjoyed_ watching it).

Lucas must be on some drugs if he thinks these movies he's cranking out are any good.

I bet the movie still lacks a two major characters by Anonymous Coward · 2003-04-26 05:18 · Score: 0, Insightful

(from http://maddox.xmission.com/)

Transition and Cohesion.

Just like episodes 1 and 2, 3 is going to suck ass. Only now, we will get to see even more of the characters we grew to love get crappified by Lucas' new "vision."

Who cares? by Paladeen · 2003-04-26 05:19 · Score: 5, Insightful

At this point I am so disillusioned with the new Star Wars films that I couldn't care less who'll feature in Episode III.

The last two films have been unspeakably bad and I'm extremely skeptical that the next will be any better.

I can understand... by craenor · 2003-04-26 05:20 · Score: 4, Insightful

People not wanting plot details, but in light of the fact that this has become a "news item" ... and not just on /. either ... do you people whining about the spoiler really think you can get all the way to the movie without finding this out?

I mean, hello...welcome to the world of computers, posters and trailers...

Shameless Hucksterism by blair1q · 2003-04-26 05:24 · Score: 4, Insightful

They needed to "tie the series together?"

They've got Obi-Wan, Anakin, and eventually Leia and Luke to tie the series together.

They're throwing in Chewie because:

a) Lucas ran out of ideas a long damn time ago.
b) Characters from the original trilogy sell better than characters from this one.
c) Hey. Don't complain. Could have been Ewoks...

Total of people in the Star Wars Universe: 26 by Gary+Yogurt · 2003-04-26 05:27 · Score: 5, Insightful

How does everyone keep running into eachother? This galaxy of Lucas' is pretty tiny. Is Wedge going to run around in Episode III and introduce himself to everyone?

Re:Total of people in the Star Wars Universe: 26 by Anonymous Coward · 2003-04-26 06:41 · Score: 1, Insightful

Bullshit philosophical implications of a movie! Wow! Anyway, after reading it, it stinks of a bad interpretation of Nietzsche. In fact, if you replace Nietzsche's ideal of the ubermensch with "control of the universe" you've got it exactly. And to be honest, do you really have "free will?" The concept of free will is absurd in itself. It's self-contradictory (not EVERYONE can have free will, the wills of others impede our own wishes) and really hard to peg down.

Re:In other news by bahamat · 2003-04-26 05:33 · Score: 4, Insightful

You're not very smart if you think that you wouldn't see chewbacca in the tv spots 6 months before the movie's release.

Here's another spoiler for you, Anakin will become Darth Vader and use a red light saber.

Sorry to spoil the movie for you though.

Folks please by Kelz · 2003-04-26 05:38 · Score: 5, Insightful

If you didn't like the movies don't take this post as an invitation for you to bash it. It seems like every time someone mentions some key word like "star wars" in a NEWS article, the same old damn topics always come up. I myself hated Jar Jar, but overall 1 and 2 were good movies! Lucas's "vision" was to create a precurser to the original star wars series, and he performed the task well imho. Lets keep the talk to Wookies and not weather the movie was good.

This is not a troll, as trolls are green.

Re:Folks please by glwtta · 2003-04-26 06:16 · Score: 3, Insightful

but overall 1 and 2 were good movies!
Dude, have you ever actually seen a good movie? What, exactly, was good about them? The overall story arc, in the broadest of senses, was quite cool (and oddly topical), but for the rest? The laughable plots, the acting worthy of a highschool senior play, the absolute worst dialog to be featured in a mainstream movie for quite some time, special effects that would have been embarassing five years ago, the music, while certainly not bad, was just the same tired old thing that we've come to expect from this type of movie, no sign of originality whatsoever. Oh, I suppose there is really nothing to be said against the camerawork and the editing - bang up job there.
It's all well and good, as you mentioned, that many individual characters and situations went against our individual good taste, that certainly doesn't make the movies themselves bad. The overall poor quality of the movies is what made them bad, and that is something that personal preference doesn't play into. No my friend, those were most certainly NOT good movies, by any strech of imagination.

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Re:Folks please by L0rdJagged · 2003-04-26 06:51 · Score: 2, Insightful

Yeah, the 'romance' scenes between Anakin and Amidala were so cringingly bad. Romping in a field of flowers, the scene in front of the fireplace...some forbidden romance. Ugh, wish that whole bit had just been left out...
Re:Folks please by oconnorcjo · 2003-04-26 07:29 · Score: 4, Insightful

I myself hated Jar Jar, but overall 1 and 2 were good movies! Lucas's "vision" was to create a precurser to the original star wars series, and he performed the task well imho.

Actually I thought the movies were far from good.

Major flaws in movie 1:

1. Anakans script was DESIGNED for somebody who was at least a teenager. No seven year old has the hots for a girl in the way Ani talked or had the time to build so much hardware or race in as many races as the movie claimed. If Ani was too old to start the training it means that Jedi's were taking babies from mothers breasts (and makes Luke's start seem rediculous).

2. Kill the whole mediaclorite(?)/Virgin Mary mess.

3. What is comedy relief doing in a serious space drama? Jar-jar should have been killed from the final cut.

While movie 1 actually had a pretty good script (that was butchered in execution), movie 2 was just a bad script. There were far better stories that could have been told that would have enriched the Star Wars Universe, but instead, we get a cop story with a twist of romance. Despite the weak plot of movie 2, it was executed much better. It is a shame that the "new Anikan" was not in the first movie.

What made the first three movies (IV-VI) so wonderfull was that they had good stories that were executed well. Very impressive to do three times in row. In the first three, Lucas was the writer but let Irvin Kershner direct V and Richard Marquand direct VI. I get the impression that Lucas is a better writer than a director/producer. Or maybe his overwhelming control over the final product puts him in a position where no-one can criticize/"provide perspective" to his creative vision anymore. Whatever the reason, the first three films are classics while the stuff made recently is just summer action flicks that would have been forgotten by most if it was not for the name brand (Star Wars) attached to it.

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Re:Folks please by shadowbearer · 2003-04-26 07:35 · Score: 2, Insightful

and the beach overlook scene

"sand is coarse....blah blah blah but you're smooth blah blah "

For Bog's sake, Lucas, farm the poetic romance out to someone else.

Face it, you simply can't write scripts as well as other people.

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Re:Folks please by Anonymous Coward · 2003-04-26 07:42 · Score: 1, Insightful

The whole point is not to make an Oscar-winning film, but to pull the viewer into that other world.
thats the problem you see. In the original three the horrible acting and bad scripting could be excused because of the epic feel of the movie especially as it unfolded with each movie as time progressed. Everything got better and had a more galactic feel to it (more being relative or course) as the movies flew by.
Then we have the simplistic and childish prequels. Instead of explaining things they just gloss over the reasons for certain elements' existence and fill in the rest with insulting and stupid coincidence. Lucas clearly should have written some movies set in a completely different Universe but chose instead to burn down the existing story and backdrop. Many of the novels out there did a fine job of explaining or alluding to the causes of the political strife, the publics rejection of the Jedi and so forth. Lucas either cannot think in such complex terms or is spending too much time dumbing down the plot for kids. If you want to make a kids movie, then make a kids movie. I personally think that the Arthurian legends are great for all ages but you will notice that the complex interaction of events, people and places are not simple by any means. Instead of dumbing down, why not simply give the viewers something to look up to. Later, after the movie is over they can begin to ask themselves those serious questions of government, liberty, freedom and war.
Re:Folks please by SpryGuy · 2003-04-26 18:36 · Score: 3, Insightful

You need to finish fixing Episode II: remove that ludicrous "video game" sequence on Genosis with the droid factory. Ugh. And the Arena scene? Stolen directly from Gladiator, with one of the monsters being a complete rip off of a StarCraft Hydrolisk. Double ugh. And the whole "who ordered the clone army, and why is no one really questioning the jedi's just coming in and taking it over and using it to fight the Count..." is way too murky and unclear.

You can keep the underwater scene in Ep I if you make just one tiny change: right before Qui Gon says "There's always a bigger fish" when the big monster saves them by eating the smaller monster... have him close his eyes and reach out with the force to attract the bigger fish to their rescue. Suddenly that scene would work a lot better. Ditto for the very end... explain why there's only one federation ship more clearly, and then when the little rug-rat blows the thing up, make him more obviously use the force. The book made it much more clear about what happend, but in the movie it looked like it was nothing more than an 'accident'. Oh, and for Ep I you need to recast the kid... he was horrible.

More character development for Darth Maul is necessary as well. The only way we know he's evil is that we are told he is, and because he looks so evil. It would have been so much better to have him look more normal, but having him be SHOWN being evil.

Back to Episode II: show Aniken killing the sand people. They really wimped out on that. And you can't get rid of *all* his whining; you have to show that Luke inherits it :-)

And in both movies: get rid of the stereotypical ethnic accents and features. The best thing about the original movies were that the aliens were *alien*, and when they spoke, they spoke *alien* tongues (which were eather subtitled, or not, and we just had to infer their meanings). Ep I and II are filled with the worst characatures and stereotypes of middle-eastern/jews, rastafarians, and jackie-chan b-movie cliches imaginable. Totally distracting. And get rid of the references to our culture, like the 'doo-doo' references, and the stupid fake-looking two-headed pod-race announcer that you half-expected to say "SUNDAY! SUNDAY! SUNDAY!" Ugh.

I agree with all you say, I just don't think you went far enoug :-)

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how stupid by ceswiedler · 2003-04-26 05:39 · Score: 4, Insightful

OK, we have a galaxy (far far away) with at least a few thousand planets. Each planet would presumably have on the order of 1-10 billion inhabitants. So what are the chances that:

1. a "remote" planet called Tatooine continually becomes vitally important to the fate of the galaxy, time and time again?

2. The same five to ten characters coincidentally reappear, time and time again? C-3PO was actually made by Anakin and just happened to be on the ship that was attacked near Tatooine and end up on Luke's farm? Now Chewbacca is going to show up, as a "coincidence?"

I suppose you could make arguments about the 'Force' making these coincidences happen. But you have to admit that's retro-explanations. Everything in Episodes 4-6 indicated that these characters were meeting for the first time, with no prior history. Now Lucas (and Star Wars fanboys) want to convince us that "no, really there's a whole previous story with these characters, which was never alluded to in the 'later' episodes."

It just goes to show what a crap storyteller Lucas is these days. How he got that way, I don't know. But Star Wars these days is about as well-written as the Daredevil movie.

Re:how stupid by ThogScully · 2003-04-26 06:24 · Score: 1, Insightful

1. There are many stories in the Star Wars universe. Read the books and you'll follow lots of stories unrelated to the characters you're familiar with. They'll pop up of course when they are big and political and famous, but you'll learn about all those other billions of people of which you speak.
2. The previous stories connecting characters was alluded to in the original trilogy, but never was told flat out. Now he's telling it. And because the prequels are a story of how those same 5 characters all came to be in the positions they were for Ep4, it only makes sense that the prequels concentrate on stories in the same locales.
3. Quit trolling your distaste in the movies. It's unfounded and offtopic.
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Re:how stupid by outsider007 · 2003-04-26 07:13 · Score: 2, Insightful

do you even understand the concept of a saga? heroes are larger than life and unlikely things happen. if you can't deal with that you can go watch something else

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Re:how stupid by thelexx · 2003-04-26 07:19 · Score: 2, Insightful

1. The books are not what most people would consider any sort of canon to be drawn from for future movies. Boils down to: % of people who've seen the prior movies (huge) vs. % of people who would have read some random SW 'universe' book (tiny).

2. "The previous stories connecting characters was alluded to in the original trilogy" -- Please be specific.

3. Offtopic perhaps, though most of the criticism levelled at the last two movies has been far from unfounded. For me, the root of the matter lies in the fact that while the original movies appealed to me both as a child (SW came out when I was eight) and as an adult, the most recent ones lack the ability to appeal to me as an adult, even with a starting handicap of goodwill from the originals. And I really, really do not think it's just nostalgia that makes me like the originals as an adult and to be able to keep watching them once a year or so, as there are other shows and movies that I'm very nostalgic over yet almost cannot bear to watch at all now. Battlestar Galactica is the prime example. Or how about Knight Rider? Embarrassingly, I do remember actually liking that show when I was a kid. Now it actually induces pain and blackouts! ;) Rant over, just been carrying these thoughts for a while.

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Re:how stupid by Nikkos · 2003-04-26 08:31 · Score: 2, Insightful

"So what are the chances that:

1. a "remote" planet called Tatooine continually becomes vitally important to the fate of the galaxy, time and time again?"

The idea is that most rebellions and/or anarchists groups are found in remote parts of a country or city (militants in Montana, criminals in seedy warehouse-district bars)

Look at tatooine - it's not a tourist destination, it's a backwater shithole where people depend on collecting morning dew for water, and have barely enough technology to survive. They use pack-animals for cryin out loud.

"2. The same five to ten characters coincidentally reappear, time and time again? C-3PO was actually made by Anakin and just happened to be on the ship that was attacked near Tatooine and end up on Luke's farm? Now Chewbacca is going to show up, as a "coincidence?""

Yep, C-3PO was made by Anakin - most fans knew that by reading the books long before the new series came out.

As for the droids - they just "happened" to be on a _rebel_ ship heading to tattooine looking for old friend and ally Obi-Wan-Kenobi. Didn't you ever wonder why R2 seemed to know where he was going/what he was doing?

Regarding Chewy, in the books it mentions that wookies live a long time (hundreds of years I believe) Chewy is a smuggler, remember from the first movie that he and Han had a history on Tattoine. Or, it could be something else.

Ya also gotta remember that while there are billions of beings, probably only a small percentage have the money/means to travel. (Anakin never would have gotten off the planet without help) that would increase the odds those people meeting eachother.

I believe the Antilles name was dropped somewhere in the first two prequels, so Wedge doesn't have to introduce himself.

It doesn't seem to be much of a suprise that the prequel to a movie about Luke, his mentor Obi-Wan, his pair of droids (who are longtime friends), his grotesquely evil father Darth Vader, and a hot princess who's his sister, would be a story about his parents, where the droids came from/how they met, how obi-wan was trained, and how Darth Vader came to be.

"Everything in Episodes 4-6 indicated that these characters were meeting for the first time, with no prior history"

Yes and No. I'm sure Chewy and Han didn't know Luke. Though greater (lesser?) fanboys could speculate on and on about Chewy keeping quiet/the force or what not. As for the Droids, they seems familier with eachother right off (to me anyway)

As for the first two prequels, I agree that they were not as good as hoped. I'm just arguing that the "plausability" (disregarding spaceships, aliens, etc) hasn't been stretched that far.

Nikkos

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Re:how stupid by RyuuzakiTetsuya · 2003-04-26 14:22 · Score: 2, Insightful

Vader and Obiwan's duel distracts the Storm Troopers, allowing the heroes to escape the Death Star on the Falcon.

not only that, but vader most likely KNEW that if he were to strike Obi Wan down, he'd become part of the Force and become a bigger asset to Luke than a living Obi Wan could ever be.

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Hey, it could bode *well* for the movie... by Blondie-Wan · 2003-04-26 05:42 · Score: 4, Insightful

... after all, given Lucas's dialogue of late, the greater the percentage of characters in a prequel who don't speak English, the better... ;-)

In seriousness, though, I'm not wild about this; I love Chewie as much as anyone, but to tie him to the storyline at this early point and then just happen to have him intersect with it again in the classic trilogy just pushes coincidence too far, IMO. Characters like Obi-Wan, Anakin / Vader, Luke, Leia, Artoo and Threepio, Yoda, Owen, Beru, etc. who have some connection to the royal houses of Naboo and / or Alderaan and / or the Skywalker family legacy make sense for inclusion in the prequels, but for characters from other circles (Han, Chewie, Lando, Jabba, Boba, etc.) who weren't already established in the originals as being connected to them to suddenly turn out to have some prior connection after all shrinks the Star Wars universe a little too much, I think (but then, that's hardly the biggest problem with the prequels...).

*sigh* Oh, well. I'll still see it, I'm sure, and I hope it's better than the first two (hey, it's possible, right?), and I similarly hope Chewie's return / "debut" is either handled in a plausible way, or is simply good enough not to object to (or better yet, both). I guess we'll see...

Re:Hey, it could bode *well* for the movie... by rusty0101 · 2003-04-26 06:17 · Score: 2, Insightful

Just as a point of note, Jabba was in ep 1. Recall he was in control at the pod races.

Boba is the son of Jenga, who is the model for all the Storm Trooper clones.

In other words, the only members of the other circles who haven't been involved are Han and Chewie. Time to bring them in.

Recall from ep 4, and 6, Obi Wan took the son of Anakin to the one place he was sure that Anakin would never return to.

It would not surprise me if Chewie turns out to have been a slave to Jaba and Obi Wan, or even Anakin frees him. It would explain his antipathy towards the cuffs in ep 4.

-Rusty

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Re:Hey, it could bode *well* for the movie... by Blondie-Wan · 2003-04-26 06:47 · Score: 2, Insightful

Just as a point of note, Jabba was in ep 1. Recall he was in control at the pod races. Boba is the son of Jenga, who is the model for all the Storm Trooper clones.

I know; that's actually exactly the sort of thing I was talking about. For many years, before Episode I actually got made, one could naturally assume that Obi-Wan, Artoo, Threepio, Yoda, Anakin, Vader, Palpatine, Owen, Beru, (infant) Luke, (infant) Leia, Luke & Leia's mother (whom we now know as Amidala), and the then-unseen Bail Organa (Alderaanian viceroy and Leia's adoptive father; played in Attack of the Clones by Jimmy Smits) were all likely going to be in the prequels, but other characters (such as Han, Chewie, Lando, Jabba, Boba, etc.) were unlikely to be in them, since they had no apparent connection to the Skywalker family prior to Obi-Wan's hiring of Han and Chewie in the cantina. However, the prequels have now revealed prior connections between Chewie, Jabba, and Boba and the Skywalker lineage and its various friends, enemies, mentors, etc., making the encounter in the cantina a bizarre coincidence. That's not to say it couldn't happen, but it does stretch credibility a bit; however, if Episode III is done well enough, I won't mind.

Star Wars is as DEAD as Lucas's creativity by coltrane679 · 2003-04-26 06:10 · Score: 2, Insightful

Whatever favorable opinion you may have had of the original series, Lucas is completely creatively bankrupt now, not an unusual development for creative types. Does anyone on the planet think Francis Ford Coppela is still as creative as he was in the 70s (Godfather I & II, The Conversation, Apocalyse Now)? Why is it surprising that Lucas has suffered the same fate? Unfortunately, he has total control over SW and thus has dragged the franchise down with him. Too bad a Peter Jackson could not be entrusted with such a project, but, as his right, Lucas is intent on taking his baby to the grave with him.

Totally inconsistent. by jcsehak · 2003-04-26 06:13 · Score: 3, Insightful

I'd rather see chewbacca appear in a romantic comedy with sandra bullock

Well, at least there'd be more chemistry than in Episode II.

I agree. It was contrived enough that he had Anakin make 3PO, and it just HAPPENED that Boba Fett, the most popular bounty hunter, was chosen to be a model for the clones. Is he even capable of creating new characters? Oh yeah, Darth Maul. He was cool. Except Lucas fleshed out his character like Kate Moss trapped in a 1-dimensional universe.

And you know, if he wants to maintain some consistency with the first two, he wouldn't use an actor at all for Chewbacca, just some fidgety CGI model.

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Re:Totally inconsistent. by Carnivorous+Carrot · 2003-04-26 07:18 · Score: 2, Insightful

> > It was contrived enough that he had Anakin make 3PO

I agree, but it seemed obvious that he didn't make him so much as repair him from a bunch of parts of other protocol droids. That, as a child, he "invented" the standard Goldenrod(TM) brand of protocol droid seen all over the place 60 years in the future is ludicrous.

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Uh... no. by mark-t · 2003-04-26 07:00 · Score: 2, Insightful

I happen to like what I've seen of Lucas's new SW trilogy from what I've seen so far (I know that puts me in a minority in this company, but I'm okay with that, we are each entitled to our own opinions).

However, I think that the movies of the post original star-wars era that are most liable to still have people talking about them in 20 years time are the LOTR movies by Peter Jackson.

But I draw the line at Star Trek vs. Middle Earth debates ("Hah! Gandalf's an Istari! He took down a Balrog, he could take down a Borg Cube if he wanted to!") No.... I really don't wanna go there.

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No, Anakin has to kill Jar-Jar by roystgnr · 2003-04-26 07:35 · Score: 2, Insightful

Remember, Lucas is trying to show the conversion of a very promising young Jedi Knight into the right hand man for the forces of evil. What could be the triggering factor that would make a character such as Anakin no longer value sentient life? If taking revenge for his mother's death wasn't enough to push him over the edge for good, what will be?

It can only be Jar-Jar. That's the death that would really make the audience think. "Wait, is killing Jar-Jar really evil? Perhaps the dark side of the force is more seductive than we imagined!" "Sure, Anakin/Vader is now going to cause the loss of billions of innocent lives and help his vicious master oppress the galaxy for decades... but isn't that a price I would have been just as willing to pay to see Jar-Jar strangled with his own tongue?"

Oh yeah? by Peterus7 · 2003-04-26 08:12 · Score: 3, Insightful

I really wish Lucas would give people what they want...

Jar Jar's head. On a silver platter. With Ewok sauce on the side.

No, really, I think George Lucas really needs to learn that he's been getting a pretty bad rap for Episode 1 and Episode 2. His storytelling skills have rusted, and he needs to realize that the magic is gone.

It was fresh when it came out, but now we're used to big aliens, flashy special effects, and bad acting. He needs to provide the people with something that actually lives to the level of innovating the originals had, instead of being all high and mighty and telling us it's an epic.

The thing is people know an epic when they see one. You don't need to tell them that it's an epic, because then there's a chance you could get screwed. Instead, imoho, he should revamp his methods, find what works/what the people want, and do it.

Another sad thing that I think the new ones have really lost was the feeling of the originals. The originals felt like they were made on a small budget and stuff, and the new ones just try to impress you with graphics and Jar Jar.

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The only reason I'm looking forward to ep III by imadork · 2003-04-26 08:33 · Score: 2, Insightful

is that we'll get another great soundtrack from John Williams. I can ignore the dialogue and still enjoy the movie, and I'll probably get just as much of the "plot", too!

Re:Please by RevAaron · 2003-04-26 08:36 · Score: 3, Insightful

I doubt you are the only one. I can't say I liked Jar-Jar all around, but I'm not ashamed to laugh when something he did was funny. I mean, christ, it sure if fun to jump on the "Jar-Jar suxxxxx" bandwagon, but that is a helluva lot more lame than Jar-Jar himself.

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One good thing. by Doctor+Funk · 2003-04-26 12:02 · Score: 2, Insightful

In A new Hope, Obi-Wan sets up the Han meeting through Chewbacca. Their having a previous relationship lends merit to that little detail. And, slightly off-topic, but if Lucas keeps bringing back characters, why can't we see the Millenium Falcon in its heyday!? The Falcon is the coolest character in all the movies.

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