Re:ATI Radeon 9000 Pro
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Angry+White+Guy
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· Score: 2, Interesting
That sounds like ATI's Problem.
Open up the drivers!
-- You think that I'm crazy, you should see this guy!
NVidia and SAMBA
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BrynM
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· Score: 4, Interesting
From the article:
I opted for the RPM because nVidia warns of dire consequences with SaX2 configuration otherwise.
Oddly enough, I did just the opposite by using SuSE's "update" feature and it worked flawlessly (even for my TNT2 M64 which is notorious for problems). This is a huge improvement from 7.x, under which I could never get an NVidia card to work right.
SuSE (and other distros) sadly lack an easy way to share a directory under SAMBA. There are a few utilities to browse windows shares and mount them, but nothing to create a share with a GUI. I can't believe I've been mucking around with samba.conf since 5.X! Having it built into Konqueror would be great, but I dream. Has anyone found GUI tools for SAMBA that work well?
By the way, SuSE can't use the SMB Python library, so the killer SAMBA Python GUI isn't possible under SuSE. Such a bummer, because there already is a great tool written under Python. I don't remember the name off the top of my head though.
-- US Democracy:The best person for the job (among These pre-selected choices...)
More reviews
by
gmuslera
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· Score: 5, Interesting
In OSNews there is also a good review of SuSE 8.2 for a desktop user, comparing it with Redhat 9.
In the other hand, in Linux and Main they have a mostly negative review.
But, at least for me, it installed without problems in the systems I tried, and it looks more mature than 8.1, is not just a package versions upgrade.
Re:More reviews
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 1, Interesting
For those zealots with the memory span of a goldfish:
In the orgy of promotion (the register thinks anything with KDE is marvellous, as does slashdot)... let's not forget the fact that SuSE is closely associated with UnitedLinux and SCO... as indeed is TrollTech.
SuSE 8.2 freezes
by
oever
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· Score: 3, Interesting
SuSE is losing more and more credit with me. I bought the SuSE 8.2 Professional upgrade and installed it on a Compaq Presario 1714EA. Result: the machine freezes after about 5 minutes of use! There a few boot options one can try in such a case, e.g. acpi=off. But none of these work.
Right now I'm communicating with the helpdesk and this is no big pleasure either. After my initial mail, I received the advice to reinstall the system with the safe settings (a boot menu option). I had already done this, since the normal settings wouldn't boot.
After saying that I'd already installed with safe settings, I was told that reinstalling really would help. So I did this and it (of course) didn't help.
The next idea the helpdesk had was to ask me to give them a list of the hardware in my computer (this list is also sent to SuSE when doing a support query, but apparently, they lost it). I provided the list and the next day I got an email asking me to check the computers memory and use a special boot option. The memory's ok and the boot option didn't work, so I'm now waiting for their next question.
However, when SuSE is installed, it runs quite well. But many applications are missing and a lot of hardware is not recognized, e.g. my pcmcia network card.
The new update checker is convenient but very buggy! It crashes a lot and after updating, the checker's icon still signals you to update.
So, in conclusion, I can say that I'll continue using SuSE (on the machine on which it does not freeze), at least until the end of the support period.
If you think SuSE is a nice distro for newbies: forget it. It takes ages until you've got it running smoothly. Once it works, it works, but it's not much different from any other disto. The install's horrible.
-- DNA is the ultimate spaghetti code.
Cheaper on linux-screws - not eval
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rumpledstiltskin
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· Score: 2, Interesting
sorry for the shameless plug. Linux Screws is about to launch. SuSE 8.2 will be available there for 9.95 plus shipping. this will be the full version, not the live eval, because with all of the distributions they provide, the customer will actually only be paying for a computer screw. The linux distribution would be provided free of charge.
Linux Newbie
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Infernon
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· Score: 5, Interesting
I'm a linux newbie. I've been using Windows for years. That being said... I went out and picked up SuSE 8.2 last week and installed it under VMWare and I love it (despite the fact that I can't get VMWare tools to install!). I think that KDE 3.1 kicks the living snot out of Windows, period. I would even propose that my mother could use it without a problem. As the article said, the installation was flawless and it picked up the virtual NIC automatically. I didn't encounter one problem (except as noted above) and I found that I started running the VM fullscreen despite the low resolution because I just enjoyed working with it. I'm not ready to get involved on a command-line level as of yet and probably won't until I finish my MCSE (please don't flame me!), but it's definitely a tight package compared to other Linux installs that I've played with before. Sadly, Linux doesn't seem to have much support for games and it's really the only reason that I haven't dumped Windows from my main machine and taken the plunge. I know that everyone talks a good deal about WINE, but I've heard that there are problems with it. Oh well, just my two cents...
OK, so maybe I'll give this "Linux" thing a try
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larsoncc
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· Score: 3, Interesting
Well, while I was in my hippie college days (4 years ago?), I actually tried Linux (SuSE, actually). I thought it was kind of cool, but somewhat difficult to set up. It didn't support anything.
Now, I know this post might be a Karma burn, but what the hell. I don't post too much on Slashdot anyway. I just thought I'd ask for some opinions here.
I am a Windows developer in a Windows world. for the most part, I've really liked it (see, told you it was a Karma burn). I haven't found much that I hate about Windows at all. And I'm not the type of guy to invent reasons to hate an operating system (come on guys, life is too short for that!). I don't think I could ever use the term "M$" without slapping myself silly.
I've used other OSes, but I've never switched. Just hasn't been practical.
My income is currently tied to Windows. While somewhat "plain", I have enjoyed the Windows interface.
So, I guess the question here is... Is it time to try Linux again? What's different now? Slashdot seems to trumpet the arrival of even the most minor Linux upgrade.... Is this different?
Can I install Linux and be productive in less than 5 hours? Can I insert a CD and have the install routine work? Are there any games yet?
Here's a newbie (and odd!) question for you: Can I develop Windows applications from within Linux now? Or at least run VS or VS.NET?
Just wondering. Hope it wasn't too terrible a sin to post this...
Re:OK, so maybe I'll give this "Linux" thing a try
by
ElGuapoGolf
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· Score: 4, Interesting
Well, the install takes about a half hour. Maybe more, maybe less, depends on your hardware. This will install the OS, OpenOffice.org's office suite, multimedia stuff, etc. If you want a DVD player, thanks to our friend the DMCA, you'll have to go grab some rpm's and install them, about 5 minutes of your time.
Installing a copy of Tribes 2 or UT2003 will take a few minutes. There are other games. Does that answer the gaming question?
Of course, you'll want to install other stuff, and whatnot. Roughly setting up, timewise, is going to be a little less than setting up with windows.//Rant Now, as a developer, who's done both Win and *nix development, you couldn't really find any way to put a nice spin on Windows development. And, by development, I'm not talking about writing some cute little VB database front ends.
I'm talking about writing backend stuff. Data handling stuff. Servers. Things where windows just doesn't do well. Need to share objects? COM? Who came up with that horrible idea. regsvr32? WTF is up with that?//End Rant
Re:No ISOs, no testing, no install.
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madcow_ucsb
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· Score: 2, Interesting
ISO's are a stupid waste of bandwidth. FTP installs are far more elegant.
Not for those of us with only one computer. FTP is fine if you have another machine to mirror the tree to, but otherwise your only machine is tied up for god knows how long in an installer. Hmm maybe one of the distros should put in a web browser like you get in a Solaris install...then at least you can stay entertained.
The benefit to ISOs for people like me (living off a laptop at the moment) is that you just need to download one file and then it's on a CD and you can just keep it around. No hassle.
Besides, show me an ftp install that lets you use download accelerator (or prozilla or whatever). Without that I usually get around 100k/sec on my cable. Use it and I max it out at 400.
Re:Don't forget apt!
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Makarakalax
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· Score: 3, Interesting
I use APT with SuSE and have found it to be excellent (although I can't compare it with other rpm distros that have apt-repositories).
I haven't used YaST to update since I installed APT4RPM, I get newer versions of important packages like Mozilla and KDE, I can update via a cron job and I dist-upgraded from 8.0 to 8.1 solely with APT, I also plan to upgrade from 8.1 to 8.2 this weekend or the next.
I've experienced very few problems using APT, although I imagine Debian's packaging works better with APT since.debs are packaged with APT in mind and SuSE doesn't officially support APT.
The documentation for SuSE APT4RPM is outstanding and thorough and the mailing-lists are helpful and informative.
If you use SuSE you should really be using APT as well.
I'm not on the project or anything, just a satisfied user!
Re:Don't Bother
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Dunkirk
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· Score: 3, Interesting
I also believe you are giving up your rights by using Microsoft products. Their EULA are becoming draconian; at some poing, you will have no rights at all.
Have you read Red Hat's service agreements for the new "Enterprise" line? It'll shock you. They're not much different any more. We just printed ours out yesterday to read the fine print.
Don't believe me? How about, by agreeing, you give Red Hat the right to walk into your building at take stock of all your software. How's that for "Microsoft-like?"
We're going to be cancelling our contract. Which, by the way, you MUST do in writing, 60 days before the end, or you WILL be held accountable for another year's worth of your agreement. How's that for "IBM-like?"
The lines are getting fuzzier these days, fellow geeks. Please vote with your dollars. I'm not against Linux companies making money, but when a company changes your terms IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TERM, then there needs to be some karmic retribution.
-- Acts 17:28, "For in Him we live, and move, and have our being."
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A bit OT here, but I have no idea how you pronounce SuSE. Is it like Sussie or like Sousa (without the a)?
Just curious. Maybe this is a lInix/lEEnix thing.
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That sounds like ATI's Problem.
Open up the drivers!
You think that I'm crazy, you should see this guy!
SuSE (and other distros) sadly lack an easy way to share a directory under SAMBA. There are a few utilities to browse windows shares and mount them, but nothing to create a share with a GUI. I can't believe I've been mucking around with samba.conf since 5.X! Having it built into Konqueror would be great, but I dream. Has anyone found GUI tools for SAMBA that work well?
By the way, SuSE can't use the SMB Python library, so the killer SAMBA Python GUI isn't possible under SuSE. Such a bummer, because there already is a great tool written under Python. I don't remember the name off the top of my head though.
US Democracy:The best person for the job (among These pre-selected choices...)
In the other hand, in Linux and Main they have a mostly negative review.
But, at least for me, it installed without problems in the systems I tried, and it looks more mature than 8.1, is not just a package versions upgrade.
SuSE is losing more and more credit with me. I bought the SuSE 8.2 Professional upgrade and installed it on a Compaq Presario 1714EA. Result: the machine freezes after about 5 minutes of use! There a few boot options one can try in such a case, e.g. acpi=off. But none of these work.
Right now I'm communicating with the helpdesk and this is no big pleasure either. After my initial mail, I received the advice to reinstall the system with the safe settings (a boot menu option). I had already done this, since the normal settings wouldn't boot.
After saying that I'd already installed with safe settings, I was told that reinstalling really would help. So I did this and it (of course) didn't help.
The next idea the helpdesk had was to ask me to give them a list of the hardware in my computer (this list is also sent to SuSE when doing a support query, but apparently, they lost it). I provided the list and the next day I got an email asking me to check the computers memory and use a special boot option. The memory's ok and the boot option didn't work, so I'm now waiting for their next question.
However, when SuSE is installed, it runs quite well. But many applications are missing and a lot of hardware is not recognized, e.g. my pcmcia network card.
The new update checker is convenient but very buggy! It crashes a lot and after updating, the checker's icon still signals you to update.
So, in conclusion, I can say that I'll continue using SuSE (on the machine on which it does not freeze), at least until the end of the support period.
If you think SuSE is a nice distro for newbies: forget it. It takes ages until you've got it running smoothly. Once it works, it works, but it's not much different from any other disto. The install's horrible.
DNA is the ultimate spaghetti code.
sorry for the shameless plug. Linux Screws is about to launch. SuSE 8.2 will be available there for 9.95 plus shipping. this will be the full version, not the live eval, because with all of the distributions they provide, the customer will actually only be paying for a computer screw. The linux distribution would be provided free of charge.
I'm a linux newbie. I've been using Windows for years. That being said...
I went out and picked up SuSE 8.2 last week and installed it under VMWare and I love it (despite the fact that I can't get VMWare tools to install!). I think that KDE 3.1 kicks the living snot out of Windows, period. I would even propose that my mother could use it without a problem.
As the article said, the installation was flawless and it picked up the virtual NIC automatically. I didn't encounter one problem (except as noted above) and I found that I started running the VM fullscreen despite the low resolution because I just enjoyed working with it.
I'm not ready to get involved on a command-line level as of yet and probably won't until I finish my MCSE (please don't flame me!), but it's definitely a tight package compared to other Linux installs that I've played with before.
Sadly, Linux doesn't seem to have much support for games and it's really the only reason that I haven't dumped Windows from my main machine and taken the plunge. I know that everyone talks a good deal about WINE, but I've heard that there are problems with it.
Oh well, just my two cents...
Well, while I was in my hippie college days (4 years ago?), I actually tried Linux (SuSE, actually). I thought it was kind of cool, but somewhat difficult to set up. It didn't support anything.
Now, I know this post might be a Karma burn, but what the hell. I don't post too much on Slashdot anyway. I just thought I'd ask for some opinions here.
I am a Windows developer in a Windows world. for the most part, I've really liked it (see, told you it was a Karma burn). I haven't found much that I hate about Windows at all. And I'm not the type of guy to invent reasons to hate an operating system (come on guys, life is too short for that!). I don't think I could ever use the term "M$" without slapping myself silly.
I've used other OSes, but I've never switched. Just hasn't been practical.
My income is currently tied to Windows. While somewhat "plain", I have enjoyed the Windows interface.
So, I guess the question here is... Is it time to try Linux again? What's different now? Slashdot seems to trumpet the arrival of even the most minor Linux upgrade.... Is this different?
Can I install Linux and be productive in less than 5 hours? Can I insert a CD and have the install routine work? Are there any games yet?
Here's a newbie (and odd!) question for you: Can I develop Windows applications from within Linux now? Or at least run VS or VS.NET?
Just wondering. Hope it wasn't too terrible a sin to post this...
Video Game News, FAQs, etc
Not for those of us with only one computer. FTP is fine if you have another machine to mirror the tree to, but otherwise your only machine is tied up for god knows how long in an installer. Hmm maybe one of the distros should put in a web browser like you get in a Solaris install...then at least you can stay entertained.
The benefit to ISOs for people like me (living off a laptop at the moment) is that you just need to download one file and then it's on a CD and you can just keep it around. No hassle.
Besides, show me an ftp install that lets you use download accelerator (or prozilla or whatever). Without that I usually get around 100k/sec on my cable. Use it and I max it out at 400.
I use APT with SuSE and have found it to be excellent (although I can't compare it with other rpm distros that have apt-repositories).
I haven't used YaST to update since I installed APT4RPM, I get newer versions of important packages like Mozilla and KDE, I can update via a cron job and I dist-upgraded from 8.0 to 8.1 solely with APT, I also plan to upgrade from 8.1 to 8.2 this weekend or the next.
I've experienced very few problems using APT, although I imagine Debian's packaging works better with APT since .debs are packaged with APT in mind and SuSE doesn't officially support APT.
The documentation for SuSE APT4RPM is outstanding and thorough and the mailing-lists are helpful and informative.
If you use SuSE you should really be using APT as well.
I'm not on the project or anything, just a satisfied user!
Have you read Red Hat's service agreements for the new "Enterprise" line? It'll shock you. They're not much different any more. We just printed ours out yesterday to read the fine print.
Don't believe me? How about, by agreeing, you give Red Hat the right to walk into your building at take stock of all your software. How's that for "Microsoft-like?"
We're going to be cancelling our contract. Which, by the way, you MUST do in writing, 60 days before the end, or you WILL be held accountable for another year's worth of your agreement. How's that for "IBM-like?"
The lines are getting fuzzier these days, fellow geeks. Please vote with your dollars. I'm not against Linux companies making money, but when a company changes your terms IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TERM, then there needs to be some karmic retribution.
Acts 17:28, "For in Him we live, and move, and have our being."