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Slashback: Hatred, Glass, Identification

Slashback brings you another source for the Unix Haters' Handbook, along with more news on the Caldera v. IBM lawsuit and other updates on topics from XPde to creating a stained-glass computer. Read on below for the details.

Why Yes, you can sell the Free books. ProteusQ writes "Project Gutenberg has released a 'Best Of' CD, April 2003 Edition. The CD compilation is copyrighted and licensed under a Creative Commons license that allows unlimited non-commercial duplication and distribution. You can even sell it, provided that you share 20% of the gross profits with Project Gutenberg. It contains almost 500 books, and the 'Best Of' project itself based on the Open Source model. All of the work was performed by volunteers (mostly by me, in this case), with the goal of building a volunteer base to create about three editions per year."

Welcome to the American legal system, mind your footing. An anonymous reader submits: "In an e-mail discussion that took place 24 and 25 April, SCO-Caldera Senior Vice President Chris Sontag told MozillaQuest Magazine that there is SCO-owned code in Red Hat and SuSE Linux distributions. He also told MozillaQuest Magazine that the tainted code is not in the Linux kernel that Linus [Torvalds] and others have helped develop. We're talking about what's on the periphery of the Linux kernel."

On this topic, Random BedHead Ed writes "IBM has released its denial of SCO Group's charges that it borrowed proprietary UNIX code in its development of the GNU/Linux system. Story at News.com.com.com.etc. The battle continues.

Also, check out PCLinuxOnline.com for a good summary of the events thus far. They also have a Boycott SCO page if you're interested."

The height of practicality. Jerami Campbell writes "I just saw your article in Slashdot 'Building a stained glass computer case?' I have made several stained glass computer cases, I thought you might be interested in checking them out. You can see all of my cases at lucentrigs.com. I will have a new one finished in a couple of days. It is black glass with a red lava lamp mounted in the front."

Gun buffs have well-adjusted sights. In regards to the MP3-player-in-a-rifle-magazine posted the other day, Mat S. writes "I would be reaaaaally surprised if this fit a standard AK-47, as it is an SVD (Russian infantry rifle, as opposed to the AK, which is in fact a carbine, although called an assault rifle) mag. It accommodates much more powerful ammo, and the cartridges are about 50% longer than the AK's. Thank you for your attention. I still WANT this player. Might be a bit on the heavy side, though. this case is stamped steel, about 3 mm thick :)"

Fair and balanced, naturally. An anonymous reader writes "For those of you who were unable to obtain the Microsoft propaganda about Unix, it's up at MIT."

Note for the humorless: the UHH is not "Microsoft propaganda."

The best Congress money can buy. If you thought Hilary Rosen writing Iraq's copyright law was an isolated incident, don't worry, she's not alone. theodp writes "The RIAA paid $18,000 for the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee to travel to Taiwan and Thailand to make it clear to government officials that the pressure to enforce U.S. laws against pirating of music and movies 'is a unified message coming from all levels of the U.S. government.' Watchdog groups say the trip may have violated House ethics rules, and one is calling for a House Ethics Committee investigation. Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., said he could have used committee funds to pay for the trip but, 'I thought I would save the taxpayers some money on this.'"

Thanks a bundle.

A considerate way to fool your friends and family. We've mentioned the blink-twice Trompe L'Oeil Windows-looking desktop XPde a few times before; now xexen writes "On April 26th 2003, I received an email. The XPde Team released XPde 0.3.5, a major upgrade to the XPde desktop environment and window manager. Check out the announcement, view the screenshots, or read the detailed ChangeLog."

Build up your frequent flyer miles. A few weeks ago we mentioned that the proceedings of the most recent linux.conf.au (a Linux gathering Down Under) were available as an ISO; hemos, who was on hand at the conference, passes on word that the CDs have been sent out, and points to some more info on the next LCA.

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  1. MP3 Rifles? by Santos+L.+Halper · · Score: 5, Funny

    All my rifles play ogg.

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  2. Re:Yes by SuperCal · · Score: 5, Funny

    Fair and balanced.... like Fox News?

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  3. they have a CD? by SHEENmaster · · Score: 4, Funny

    So I didn't have to "wget -r" their entire FTP server from the local college's multiple T3 lines? Sorry guys.

    (Just a joke, no need for you to do the same to my server.)

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  4. lava lamps by shird · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As cool as it might look, I cant imagine having a lava lamp on the front of your case is too practical - those things get verrry hot. If your anything like me, youd prefer to have it as bare bones as possible, concentrating more on temperature, in order to get the fan speeds down ( = less noise).

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    1. Re:lava lamps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
      That is an excellent idea, and I have taken the liberty of patenting it.

      Sincerely,
      Jeff Bezos
      CEO, Amazon.com

    2. Re:lava lamps by ePhil_One · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Maybe you could use the lava lamp to cool your P4.

      Actually, I think you have this backwards. Use the P4 to heat the lamp, and just use a nice cool LED or other cool light tech (I think flourecent would give bad EMF karma). Its the heat/cooling cycle that generates the groovy rising falling globules. Is the temperature stable enough? Whats the temperature range the rise/fall process is stable over. Just what is that goo made off?

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    3. Re:lava lamps by Ulalume · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The way I designed the case the lava lamp has two fans mounted above it, venting hot air out. and once it is heated to the "flowing" temp. I can turn off two of the lights and it flows without generating any heat to the case. Nothing actually touches the glass the lava is in. it is completely surrounded by air. so their isn't much for the heat to transfer too, and air flow is excelent.

    4. Re:lava lamps by billtom · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Huh? This guy is building *stained glass* computer cases and you're pointing out that he's not being very practical by including a lava lamp?

  5. Re:Yes by The+Bungi · · Score: 4, Funny

    Didja mean Faux News? =)

  6. um by GigsVT · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "The RIAA paid $18,000 for the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee to travel to Taiwan and Thailand

    Why is this buried in a Slashback? Come on! This is huge news.

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    1. Re:um by philovivero · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yeah, this is huge news. A U.S. congressman spent $18,000 to go to Taiwan and Thailand? I know for a fact that at the most expensive hotels and with the most expensive food, you can only spend about $8,000 on a trip to those countries. So the other $10,000 went to prostitutes, drugs, and... what? Into his pocket?

    2. Re:um by maxume · · Score: 2, Insightful

      perhaps his staff?

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    3. Re:um by Otter · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Why is this buried in a Slashback? Come on! This is huge news.

      No it's not. "Fact-finding"junkets like this are perfectly routine. You may find that reassuring or you may find it cause for even more concern. (In any case, the story of a British MP taking hundreds of thousands of pounds from an Iraqi intelligence agency has gone almost unnoticed in the US.)

      Meanwhile, I had a story rejected today that seems like it would be of interest: Boycott Hollywood had their domain revoked after legal threats from the William Morris Agency. They posted contact information for anti-war celebrities and their agents, incurring the wrath of a powerful firm.

      Keep that in mind the next time you hear Susan Sarandon and Martin Sheen whining about being silenced.

    4. Re:um by abe+ferlman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's not huge news because the junket was paid for - It's huge news because Sensenbrenner, the Chairman of the *House Judiciary Committee*, was actually *criticized* for it - and Rupert Murdoch's news empire took notice. It even ran on the front page of foxnews.com for a while.

      Unfortunately, THAT is not at all routine, and should be front page news here.

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    5. Re:um by Geekboy(Wizard) · · Score: 5, Funny

      Already mentioned the prostitutes.

    6. Re:um by u38cg · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I think the reason the story about George Galloway has gone unnoticed is that no-one believes a word of it.

      The story, for those that missed it, is that Galloway was a big anti-war, anti-sanctions guy. He went out to Iraq several times and appeared more than once in public cosily chatting to Saddam-may-he-rest-in-peace. Then, last week, the Daily Telegraph (very right-wing, whereas George Galloway is kinda not), produced documents apparently showing Galloway had taken piles of money for it.

      It's interesting to note that on four consecutive days, the same reporter had four different scoops in two different papers, all down to miraculously unburnt secret documents. Private Eye this week has a fairly withering commentary on the whole thing.

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    7. Re:um by Noel · · Score: 2, Funny

      George Bush is attacking Iraq to gain control of oil.

      Sorry. Spelling mistake, I think. Should be:

      George Bush is attacking Iraq to gain control of all.

  7. Just in case MIT gets slashdotted... by baximus · · Score: 3, Informative

    PlanetMirror has the UHH here.

    Enjoy (yeah, second time i've posted this - the last time got deleted - thanks guys)

    1. Re:Just in case MIT gets slashdotted... by Doom+Ihl'+Varia · · Score: 5, Funny

      MIT? Get Slashdotted? Pardon me while I die of laughter.
      These guys have more bandwith than Jesus. Of course Jesus never owned a computer but if he did you could betcha he would have some pretty heavy fiber.

    2. Re:Just in case MIT gets slashdotted... by alouts · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Well, I'm not sure how much bandwidth they have, but as an aside, I do remember they have an insane amount of IP space.

      In fact when I was there in the early 90's, the student paper kept making jokes about how even the lightsockets in the hallways had their own IP addresses. the entire 18.x.x.x space is (or at least *was* at the time) MIT, giving them over 16 million IP addresses to assign to students.

  8. Microsoft propaganda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    Note for the humorless: the UHH is not "Microsoft propaganda."

    I note that since the original story was posted, a disclaimer has been put up at the site (no doubt in response to the humorless):

    Due to being announced on Slashdot.org, the book has gotten a lot of fresh attention. I've added this page so that those downloading the book can be aware of some history before starting their read.

    • This book is ten years old . I started work on it in 1992 (maybe even 1991) while I was a professor at Stanford. My co-editors took over after I started work at Microsoft. (So no, it's not a Microsoft conspiracy.) A lot has happened in the intervening decade.
    • This book's target audience was people who themselves have noticed certain weaknesses in Unix at that time and could relate to our stories. Our goal was humor. Many readers have told us we succeeded in this. Even Eric Raymond liked it (his name is in the acknowledgements).
    • The book is not meant to be balanced, it is a screed, pure and simple. Is it over the top? Yes.
    • We wrote the contract with our publisher to have the copyright revert to us once the book went out of print. So yes, we have the right to publish it online. Feel free to mirror it where ever you want, print it out, and bind it.
    • Do I have any regrets? Yes, that the funniest item in the book probably isn't anything we wrote, but is Dennis Ritchie's anti-forword. (We had asked Dennis to write a forword, thinking that since he was doing Plan 9 at that time, it would give him an opportunity to talk about how he had moved on from Unix and fixed its flaws in his next OS. (We were young and had a lot chutzpah then.) He read the Preface, and then sent back his essay. We thought it was great and tremendously funny, so we added it in (with permission). To this day, I don't know if he expected us to publish it.)
    • If you enjoyed reading this book and felt it was worth the price of a least a movie and popcorn, send a $10 check to your favorite charity.
    1. Re:Microsoft propaganda by Zeinfeld · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Do I have any regrets? Yes, that the funniest item in the book probably isn't anything we wrote, but is Dennis Ritchie's anti-forword. (We had asked Dennis to write a forword, thinking that since he was doing Plan 9 at that time, it would give him an opportunity to talk about how he had moved on from Unix and fixed its flaws in his next OS.

      Well first off, Plan 9 did not attempt to address a single one of the problems identified in the haters handbook. So it should not be a surprise that Ritchie did not read the book as a fix it

      One of the curious things about the UNIx crowd is that they are the only people who had that degree of success that when asked what they would have done different seem to always answer 'nothing'. Ask Tim or me or any of the Web crowd what we did wrong and you get a laundry list, like top of mine is that we did not put a lightweight compressed encoding into the default libraries from the start. That would have saved a mass of bandwidth and speeded up dialup links two to threefold.

      Second, I think Dennis tried to give the MIT guys the exact opposite of the answer they wanted because he knew that it would be funnier than the other content.

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    2. Re:Microsoft propaganda by jeremyp · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Since the first article (well both of them) I have had a chance to download and read the book. I was expecting to be outraged at the authors' lack of knowledge about my favourite operating system but in fact found myself squirming with embarrassment because many of their criticisms seemed to be perfectly valid.

      The lack of a proper undelete support and/or versioning, the utter abortion that is/was ufs and its derivatives, the total lack of consistency in commands and their switches, the other abortion that was NFS, the lack of type information for files, the case sensitive file names (actually they didn't mention that one), the other other abortion that was the mail subsystem, the stoneage development environment.

      The thing is, in the mid 80s to early 90s when the book was written, I had the opportunity to work on a variety of commercial operating systems and - except in the area of security - they all seemed just as bad or worse.

      One particular example that brings tears to my eyes was the OS called MCP that came with Unisys A-series hardware (a stack based machine for which Algol was effectively its assembler language in the same way as C is PDP 11 assembler). The file system didn't corrupt files but there was no undelete facility and if you didn't defrag the disks every other day, the machine ground to a halt because it wasn't clever enough to split files across multiple blocks of free space. If you did defrag the disk the machine ground to a halt because defrag was taking all the IO bandwidth. Its idea of crash diagnostics was also to dump core but it did it to the line printer (in a readable format) not the file system.

      Then there was VMS. I remember it being a total pig (but then I was used to Unix - it was probably unfamiliarity). One of the really annoying things was that when you changed something it kept the all the old versions lying around. Eventually, after a heavy debugging session the disk was full.

      There were problems with every operating system I ever used which made Unix nice to come back to. It was probably the simplicity of the beast that appealed to me - we examined it in our operating systems course at University and it was easily the most agricultural architecture we looked at (apart from CP/M). I would definitely not have considered it for large scale commercial apps back then. But it was adequate for most small scale things where most other OSs could suck really badly in some areas.

      I definitely recommend anybody who is considering developing and distributing apps on any OS to read this book. If you insist on using cryptic error messages, impose stupid restrictions or illogical behaviour, fail to document properly etc etc this is what people will be saying about you.

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  9. Affirmative action for a right by Ozan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't exactly know what the u.s. equivalent is, but in Germany there is something called negative Feststellungsklage which means that Suse could apply for a court order declaring that SCOs claims are false and prohibits them to repeat their allegations.

    If SCO seeks to achieve a precedent by sueing Suse this might be the appropriate backfire.

    Just a thought.

    1. Re:Affirmative action for a right by Cyberdyne · · Score: 4, Informative
      I don't exactly know what the u.s. equivalent is, but in Germany there is something called negative Feststellungsklage which means that Suse could apply for a court order declaring that SCOs claims are false and prohibits them to repeat their allegations. If SCO seeks to achieve a precedent by sueing Suse this might be the appropriate backfire.

      There's a similar mechanism in the US (nothing to do with "affirmative action", at least in the US sense): you can petition the court for a "Declaratory Judgement". Effectively, winning such a judgement in your favor would mean SCO had already lost the first court case - they'd have to start off by appealing an existing ruling in your favor, instead of starting a new case against you. Definition here.

  10. Another mirror for everyone by mrt300 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I grabbed the UHH from the MIT guy and threw it on a Purdue server. Download away.

    http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~anthontj/random/ugh.pdf

  11. Saved all but one of four tax payers... by yeoua · · Score: 4, Funny

    So which of the 4 poor saps sued by the RIAA (and then settled) paid for the congressman's trip?

  12. The XPde FAQ thought about everything... by MoThugz · · Score: 3, Funny

    including this personal favourite of mine:

    I'm a avid reader of Slashdot, I'm a Linux guru, I'm a BOFH, I'm a geek, Why the hell would I want this f#@#ng software?

    Sorry, but I think this is not the project for you. (well, at least geeks like any kind of tech, so if you want to look at the source code.. ;-)

    1. Re:The XPde FAQ thought about everything... by BigBlockMopar · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'm a avid reader of Slashdot, I'm a Linux guru, I'm a BOFH, I'm a geek, Why the hell would I want this f#@#ng software?

      Heh... Yeah, I liked that, too.

      Actually, I think XPde goes a long way toward getting Linux ready for mass adoption on the desktops of the corporate world.

      Microsoft has spent millions of dollars on focus groups to have ordinary Joes and Janes sit down and play with Windows, telling them what's good and bad, from a user's perspective.

      The open source desktop metaphors don't have that resource - but Windows XP - ugly and inefficient as it may be to most Slashdot readers - does represent a lot of UI design experience.

      XPde goes the right way to adopting and trying to learn from the expertise of Microsoft and Apple.

      Having a Linux distro ship KDE with fluorescent pink menus and background wallpaper that looks like it was designed by a 14-year-old Run Lola Run fan from East Berlin does very little to encourage IT buyers that they can take the risk and leave Microsoft's comfortable if expensive and unreliable embrace.

      XPde also works to try to migrate casual users who don't have very specific or great requirements. There's one in every office: the 66-year-old executive to whom Outlook *is* e-mail, and who gets confused when you present another program with exactly the same features and operations but different icons. Just as there's no way to explain to this user that the Send button still sends e-mail and have him confidently understand it, there's also no reason for that person to run Windows with its vulnerabilities to mailbox Klez and Nimbda attacks.

      I can think of a few desktops which I'm going to migrate from XP to XPde.

      And I won't tell them they're running Linux until they've been using it for a couple of weeks.

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  13. Boycott SCO? by Omega+Hacker · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wow, that'll affect all of SCO's 3 customers...?

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  14. from the FAQ of XPde by vivek7006 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Can this project be sued by Microsoft?

    We don't know, we are not lawyers. But in any case, we are ready for that. We don't use any of Microsoft's registered trademarks, graphics, logos, or anything. This means someone could create a complete theme that mimics the Windows XP environment - where the dialogs are the same, the controls are positioned in the same places and with the same text.

    Maybe that would be illegal, but *we* don't include *copyrighted* material. In the case Microsoft have ownership over (for example) a-dialog-that-shows-running-processes (i.e. TaskManager) and our dialog has the controls in the same positions as the Windows one, we are right now creating the translation system. This translation system will also allow "anyone" to position the controls of any dialog in any place. We can create a version with completely different dialogs (the same controls in different places) and *someone* could create a theme which modifies these controls to the Windows XP places.

    But this is not our problem. Could Microsoft have copyrighted an environment like the taskbar concept? Could Microsoft have copyrighted the start menu concept? Could Microsoft have copyrighted the tray icon concept? Could Microsoft have copyrighted the desktop concept? In that case every desktop has a problem ;-)

    The solution here is that we are not going to ship a complete Windows XP interface clone out-of-the-box, but it will be so easy to configure that *someone* could make it look *exactly* like the Windows XP interface. We won't provide this configuration.

  15. oh by labratuk · · Score: 3, Funny
    At first I read that line

    ...RIAA paid $18,000 for the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee to travel to Taiwan and Thailand...

    as

    ...RIAA paid $18,000 for the chairman of the House Ludicracy Committee to travel to Taiwan and Thailand...

    Telling thing is, it made perfect sense to me the first time I scanned it.

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  16. $18000 eh ? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The RIAA paid $18,000 for the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee to travel to Taiwan and Thailand

    Now you know what they needed those students' money for.

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  17. BitTorrent of the Gutenberg CD? by Phantasmo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I know that ibiblio exists to serve up stuff like this, but is there someone out there with a compressed copy of April's CD that could post a .torrent?
    Slashdotters have been good lately about using BitTorrent to shoulder some of the bandwidth load (for example, when the Matrix Reloaded trailer was released.)

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  18. Unix Lover... by philovivero · · Score: 5, Funny

    I know Unix like I know the back of my hand. I love Unix like I love the palm of my hand.

  19. Re:carbine? assault rifle? by bobbozzo · · Score: 5, Informative

    A carbine is a short rifle (barrel length under 20").

    "assault rifle" is a general term some anti-gun activists and politicians and media have created.
    In the People's Republic of California, it is (defined by law as) a semiautomatic centerfire rifle with any of the following characterics:
    a pistol grip
    a flash suppressor
    magazines holding more than 10 rounds
    folding or collapsible butt stock ...
    See here or here for more exact PRC legal info.

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  20. XPDE by zzxc · · Score: 2, Informative

    I noticed that the XPDE screenshots use mozilla/netscape with the classic skin. There is an Internet Explorer skin at mozdev.org they could be using. (if they want to copy windows explorer, this would be a must)

  21. PG favourite book by r00zky · · Score: 5, Funny

    Best PG book ever:
    Square Root of 4 To A Million Places, The
    A must read...

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  22. Re:carbine? assault rifle? by Zirnike · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just to be clear, until about 1990 or so, any dictionary and encyclopedia (as people have been missing the obvious lately, I feel the need to say 'that I was able to get my hands on to look at') defined assault rifle with the additional charactaristic 'Must be capable of burst fire and fully automatic fire'.

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  23. Re:carbine? assault rifle? by JimmytheGeek · · Score: 5, Informative

    the term was in use circa WWII to denote automatic weapons firing cartridges more powerful than pistol ammunition (used in submachine guns), but less powerful than a typical rifle bullet. The rationale is that most infantry combat took place at shorter range than what made a regular rifle necessary, and it's difficult to fire an automatic rifle using the more powerful cartridges.

    Germany had a couple in WWII, the Russians had one too, I think. The U.S. went with the M14 (looks a lot like the M1, but has a detachable magazine and automatic fire) for a while, which was an automatic rifle by this definition. Then the M16.

  24. Interesting thing about the Unix haters people by hayden · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The book was published before Windows NT was released. They then went quiet after Windows NT was released.

    Given a choice between Unix and Windows ...

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  25. Re:carbine? assault rifle? by Otter · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Basically, the guns that have been singled out for special restrictions have been:
    • "Saturday Night Specials" (cheap handguns)
    • "Military-style handguns" (expensive handguns)
    • "Assault rifles" (cheap rifles)
    And then last summer, they started in on "sniper rifles", or expensive rifles. If I didn't know better, I'd think they were trying to eliminate guns entirely!
  26. Re:Yes by SN74S181 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Maybe he meant Forged News.

  27. Re:Hey, the story doesn't say that by Random+BedHead+Ed · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You're right. But the problem with using the term Linux for the OS is, for me, not related to a movement, and nothing against Linus, and not because I am a zealot. It's for clarity. SCO has said that none of the "tainted" code is in the kernel itself. So the legal battle between IBM and SCO promises to be very confusing when both sides argue about code in "Linux" and each side is speaking about a different thing.

  28. More clarification by FFtrDale · · Score: 2, Informative
    A carbine is called that because carbines were originally used by cavalry, and they had a D-ring or snap-link (just like a mountain climber's carabiner) for attaching it to the saddle by means of a lanyard. If dropped while a trooper was on horseback, the rifle could be retrieved rather than being lost entirely. It was short so it wasn't too awkward to fire while mounted, and so it would fit in a scabbard attached to the saddle. Before long, many armies found that short, handy rifles were useful for many kinds of troops (artillery and mortar crews, tank crews, infantry officers who wanted more than just a pistol), and the historical term "carbine" remained after the lanyard ring was gone.

    As has been said, the original (and for me, the "true") definition of an assault rifle is that it can fire like a machine gun, and is typically smaller than a "main battle rifle" like the M1 of World War II. Legislators in the U.S. have used the term for semiautomatic (= "self-loading") rifles; these fire 1 shot each time you pull the trigger. Legislators in various places use the term for any "scary-looking" rifle, especially those with a pistol grip, a flash hider, a metal lug for attaching a bayonet, a removeable magazine that holds a lot of cartridges, & on, & on...

    Imagine that you're a WWII German soldier assaulting a position outside Stalingrad. You're a lot happier when you get issued something that fires like a machine gun. Also, its cartridges are less powerful than standard rifle cartridges of the era, and that makes these weapons more controllable in fully-automatic fire than if they'd used the usual rifle ammunition. The ammunition is lighter, as well, so you can carry more ammunition than before with an equivalent amount of fatigue. The Allies had enough M1s, Enfields, Mosin-Nagants, guys, tanks, ships, aircraft, etc., etc., etc., that a nifty infantry weapon wasn't enough to help the Wehrmacht much. Still, the concept has been adopted all over the world. The AK-47 and M16 (especially in its current M4 (yes - carbine!) variant) both act like assault rifles, though I think the US military calls the M16 a main battle rifle. Maybe somewhat redundant, but HTH.

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  29. Re:Case not hot enough? by Ulalume · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm actually overclocking a 1.2ghz t-bird to 1.4 in it right now. The lava has no effect on the computer once it gets up two speed. The two 40-watt bulbs are only used to heat it in a hurry. otherwise it take several hours to heat it up. It's been running for a week solid now and I havn't had any stability issues. I am changing the system in it back to the xp 2200+ for a LAN party later this month. I'm playing with it now to get a feel for how things will work with it. cooling isn't a problem though.

  30. Re:carbine? assault rifle? by EugeneK · · Score: 2

    Yeah, I meant the first (bullets per minute).
    Given what you said, maybe the best definition of an assault rifle is :

    a rifle intended to kill large numbers of people efficiently (as opposed to animals).

  31. Re:carbine? assault rifle? by jmorris42 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Damn! This must be prime time in France or something. But I'll school ya.

    Of course there are WMDs in Iraq! Our leaders wouldn't lie. We have to put our unwavering blind faith in our Great Leader. You wouldn't want people to think you are one of those candy assed Saddam loving liberals, now would you? And remember, only by becoming a Police State can we defend the liberties that America stands for. Back in the good old days we could all sit around and shoot the bull about policy, but in these more serious post 9/11 times dissent only helps the terrorists. You wouldn't want to help the terrorists, right?

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  32. At last, an easy boycott by ader · · Score: 2, Funny


    Boycotting Amazon or music companies is hard work and a great personal loss, but boycotting SCO? Sure, can do!! Done it my whole life and honestly, it hasn't degraded my quality of living at all!

    ...Uh wait, I use Red Hat though. Darn.


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    Big Bubbles (no troubles) - what sucks, who sucks and you suck