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Opportunistic Encryption of IP traffic: FreeS/WAN 2.0

Russ Nelson writes "Since 1996, John Gilmore has dreamed of an Internet where all traffic between cooperating sites is encrypted. He has supported the FreeS/WAN project which uses IPSEC to encrypt IP traffic on an opportunistic encrypting basis. The team has released Linux FreeS/WAN 2.00, their first release optimized for Opportunistic Encryption (OE). After installation, ZERO host configuration is required for OE! A Linux box running 2.00 will encrypt all IP packets to other OE capable boxes whenever possible, provided you publish a key and IPsec gateway information in DNS." Nice.

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  1. Weakest link by gsliepen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A chain is as strong as its weakest link.
    This applies to cryptography as well.
    In the Oppertunistic Encryption scenario, DNS is probably the weakest link. Spoof KEY records and you can launch a man-in-the-middle attack.

    1. Re:Weakest link by Great_Jehovah · · Score: 5, Insightful

      True. But no one is claiming that OE is something you should depend on. It's main purpose is to make the job of snoops with no resources a lot harder.

      The real weakness in this scheme is that very few admins will go to the trouble of registering keys with DNS due to laziness or lack of perceived value.

    2. Re:Weakest link by Klaruz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Very few ISPs even let a user control their dns. So it's useless to 90%+ of the broadband users out there.

      Note: I haven't read the article yet, but I'm pretty sure they're talking about reverse dns. I don't see any other way to do it off the top of my head.

    3. Re:Weakest link by Klaruz · · Score: 4, Informative
      Determine the best form of opportunism your system can support.

      * For full opportunism, you'll need a static IP and and either control over your reverse DNS or an ISP that can add the required TXT + KEY Records for you.
      * If you have a dynamic IP, and/or write access to forward DNS only, you can do initiate-only opportunism
      * To protect traffic bound for real IPs behind your gateway, use this form of full opportunism.


      So you'd only be able to use initiate-only opportunism. Oh well, still sucks.

    4. Re:Weakest link by gadwale · · Score: 5, Insightful


      What you have pointed out is true. However, it does not sound like OE is ever meant to protect against main in the middle attacks. By its very definition, it simply encrypts traffic whenever possible. This has two good outcomes:

      1. More encrypted traffic in general, so when you begin encrypting your traffic it does not look suspicious to anybody who is monitoring traffic

      2. Opportunistic sniffers will not be able to read the stream of data since it is automatically encrypted without your having to configure anything

      OE is not a replacement for a VPN, nor is it meant to ensure the identity of the parties involved. If you really wanted to be sure, you would find some other medium to exchange keys initially or ensure that keys you received are signed by a CA or another verifying authority. That way, even if a third party does intercept your data, the data cannot be decrypted without the corresponding private key since you are using the authentic public key and not a spoof.

      Of course, the CA or signing third party may be compromised. In that case, there are only two solutions:
      1. Use telepathic brainwaves
      2. Use carrier pigeons, because nobody will be expecting them

      Adi Gadwale.

    5. Re:Weakest link by velkro · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yes, DNS is currently the weakest link.

      DNSSec will fix most of this, however that requires all of the TLD and gTLD's support it. Currently, only .nl will sign records all the way to the root zone. We need more TLD/gTLD buy-in for DNSSec to become commonplace.

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    6. Re:Weakest link by gadwale · · Score: 2, Funny

      D U H!

      Now they will be expecting carrier pigeons!

      Adi Gadwale.

    7. Re:Weakest link by kousik · · Score: 3, Informative
      > In the Oppertunistic Encryption scenario, DNS is probably the weakest link.

      Yes. I wrote the same functionality for my employer. There are several ways to safeguard you.

      The biggest problem is not the key distribution, but if you are using pre-shared keys, then by spoofing DNS and redirecting the IKE messages to an evil host, a dictionary attack on your pre-shared keys may be launched. See a detailed analysis on the attack, and it is feasible when you can redirect traffic (IKE exchange messages) towards you by poisoning the DNS.

      If you are using RSA-SIG or RSA-ENCR, ask for certificate, and validate that their ID, their corresponding certificate field, and your idea of their ID match. That'll eliminate almost all the attacks.

      Not all. Just poisoning the DNS reply one can DoS you, he may not have any way to establish IKE with you, and get your sensitive traffic sent to him.

      Best is to have an ACL, which will authenticate phase 1 SA only if the peer's certificate contains some specific values in their CN/DN and other relevant fields.

      -K-

  2. Someones not going to like this by glesga_kiss · · Score: 5, Insightful
    If this becomes popular, I can see the intelligence agencies having a fit. They might lose one of their best information feeds; the internet.

    If this sort of technology were to be rolled into the main distributions as well as Microsoft/Apple packages, the internet would then have a decent level of privacy.

  3. Wireless applications? by i.r.id10t · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was wondering... would this have application for wireless, either between a workgroup bridge (like the Ciso one) or a single pci/pcmcia card and an AP or mesh of APs? Seems like it could be better than WEP, especially if it was just as easy to implement on a small scale non-DNS based solution (hosts file, ssid, hard coded ip range, etc.)

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    1. Re:Wireless applications? by kmcmartin · · Score: 5, Informative

      This is a very useful application of IPsec. The wavesec project is an example of using IPsec to secure the link between a client and the wireless access point.

      This was in-practice last year at OLS where the FreeS/WAN folks set up a wavesec encrypted link, while the folks that were not using wavesec had their traffic snooped and displayed on a monitor.

      The problem with using IPsec as a replacement for WEP, however, is that IPsec is higher up on the OSI layer diagram, so more information is left unencrypted than when using WEP (yes, I'm aware that WEP is weak and in this case, won't make a difference, I'm just illustrating a point.)

    2. Re:Wireless applications? by velkro · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Yup, it was demo'd last year at OLS, and it should be at OLS 2003 as well. (It was my laptop running driftnet showing all the wide open traffic at OLS 2002 - I plan to do the same again this year)


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      ken@freeswan.ca

  4. Pretty cool idea by VCAGuy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think this idea of a "meta-SSL" is a really good one--not only can we encrypt the data stream, but also the headers. Of course, we'd still need to deal with session keys and the problem of "known response" attacks, but assuming we can fix that, this looks really promising.

    (And of course, it would be best if we could implment this on the hardware of the routers themselves, rather than rely on the OS...*cough* M$ *cough*).

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  5. not really by SHEENmaster · · Score: 2, Insightful

    this uses public-key encryption, which may be an "easy" algorithm but is certainly not secure because given enough clock cycles, the public key can be used to derive the private key. I suspect the NSA has enough computing power to start packet sniffing a particular target within hours if not minutes of this going up.

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    1. Re:not really by glesga_kiss · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I suspect the NSA has enough computing power to start packet sniffing a particular target within hours if not minutes of this going up.

      Exactly. They can still target someone who deserves it. However, they can't scan most e-mails, like they are right now.

    2. Re:not really by arvindn · · Score: 4, Informative
      this uses public-key encryption, which may be an "easy" algorithm but is certainly not secure because given enough clock cycles, the public key can be used to derive the private key.

      Aaargh! Please go read up some crypto. There's no sense in anything you said. You are essentially saying that all crypto is pointless.

      First, public-key encryption is not an "easy algorithm" in any sense. It is much more computationally expensive than symmetric key encryption. Second, adding just a few bits of key size doubles the computational complexity of brute force key search (for public key encryption; for symmetric encryption, adding just a single bit of key length doubles the complexity.) Currently, we are just able to crack 512 bit keys, but most public key encryption today uses 1024 bit keys, so the time taken to bruteforce it would be of the order of countless bajillions of years. The only widely used encryption algo that the NSA can crack is 56bit DES, and it has already been phased out. Third, all real-world crypto needs to use a mixture of public and symmetric key encryption. The former because it is the only one that allows authentication, and the latter because it is much faster.

      I hope that cleared some things up.

  6. This will never work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Windows 2000 allows one to request IPsec security on all network traffic. All you have to do is flip a switch. I tried this when Windows2k first came out - theoretically, my machine would send a packet to your machine requesting an IPsec connection, your machine responds (either with a "what are you talking about" or "sure, let's do IPsec!") and the connection either gets secured, or dropped back to normal communications. Within a month, I got approximatly 20 calls including three notices from my ISP (UUNET) that I was engaging hacking activity! It's great that some companies actually monitor their network, check their sniffers, and pay people to review the logs, but they should know what an IPsec packet looks like, or at least understand which ports it attempts to authorize over! There was even one company who it ended up being discovered was hacking me!

    Anyway, this will never work - there's too many clueless administrators out there who will think it's just someone attacking their core routers or overloading their DNS server, or something else equally inane, and they won't bother to check what the port really is.

    1. Re:This will never work by velkro · · Score: 2, Informative

      OE uses standard DNS requests before attempting to negotiate IPSec tunnels.

      It does a TXT & KEY records, which are perfectly normal and RFC compliant DNS queries. If nothing is found, no IKE negotiation is attempted.

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  7. Possibly not for everyone? by eddy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Problem is, the requirements include:

    "* either control over your reverse DNS (for full opportunism) or the ability to write to some forward domain (for initiator-only)
    * (for full opportunism) a static IP"

    Don't know about the US, but over here >90% of all cable/DSL is on dhcp and I'm fairly sure you don't control your reverse-DNS.

    I'm not sure of the role the static IP plays in this, but it would be nice if it could be hacked around so that dhcp-assigned IPs could be used too (scripting updates to DNS on change of IP is easy). Maybe put them (a range of IPs instead of one) in a lower security class if need be.

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  8. A good first step. by Meat+Blaster · · Score: 3, Funny
    FreeS/WAN is definitely on the cutting edge of things, and anything they can do to reduce the complexity of cryptography makes it more likely that a larger audience can realize the benefits of encryption. I applaud this for security reasons, because the less information floating around out the more secure we all are.

    However, this is not yet a complete solution for the average user. For one thing, it's Linux only, which puts it out of reach of the majority. Secondly, and this I absolutely cannot believe, they've killed off Trinity in their Matrix sequel. But most importantly, you've got to have access to DNS to make it properly work!? Why can't a new ICMP handshake be used to exchange keys between a new connection (and queue them) so that this doesn't have to rely on a third-party?

    So, while this is a good first step, I think there are greater things that will yet be accomplished.

  9. This is news? by CoolVibe · · Score: 3, Interesting
    This has been in the works (and working) for quite a while. I saw a presentation by Hugh Daniels in "De Waag" in Amsterdam a couple of years back about FreeS/WAN and opportunistic IPSEC, and he gave a working presentation with live hosts on the net that were using it back then. (Hi Hugh, I was the guy that asked all the good questions, remember me? :)

    But of course it's nice to see this getting more exposure. The problem with IPSEC has always been the hassle of setting it up. Having encryption kick in "automagically", is a good thing to have.

  10. KEY record debate... by pabl0 · · Score: 5, Informative
    One potential problem with this is that KEY records were originally intended for DNSsec usage and some controversy has arisen with regard to using KEY records for other purposes, such as OE. This pretty much sums it up, however, and it seems as though they've gone on using KEY for this purpose.

    (I realize the articles listed are 8-9 months old, but clearly the issue is still relevant.)

    I'm unfortunately not running OE, as my DNS provider (UltraDNS) did not provide the capability to add KEY records to a zone at the time I went through the installation process. Not sure if they do so now; perhaps time to check! I'd be interested in discovering which DNS providers do or do not provide the ability to insert KEY records into zones.

  11. SpamStop by Bruha · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Wonder if I could just tell my email server to only accept encrypted connections from trusted sources to stop spam. This would definately work for seperate corporate mailservers that need to connect to eachother across the internet eliminating the need to maintain them on a private network.

    1. Re:SpamStop by gadwale · · Score: 2, Interesting


      This may not stop spam, but could make email a much safer medium. Most people have no idea how insecure plaintext email is. Having encryption transparent from the user would be a significant step in the right direction. From the OE docs:


      "Only one current product we know of implements a form of opportunistic encryption. Secure sendmail will automatically encrypt server-to-server mail transfers whenever possible."


      Unfortunately the linked paper is from 1999 and there does not seem to be any updated information.

      Adi Gadwale.

    2. Re:SpamStop by ptbarnett · · Score: 2, Interesting
      you can use your MTAs TLS functionality to do the same and TLS is supported by MTAs on many operating systems and MTAs

      I have TLS enabled on my MTA (sendmail) and observe the occasional connection that uses it (aside from my own). But, I didn't know how to require encrypted connections. I poked around a bit on the 'Net and found this:

      http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4823

      It appears that you can use the access map to require encypted connections. Of course, the same map could be used to restrict unencrypted connections to certain servers, as well.

  12. I don't know if this is really a good idea. by autopr0n · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I mean, you install this thing, and you'll have some random connections be encrypted. But it would still be foolish to 'trust' any regular internet connections. This type of technology might give people a false sense of security.

    I realize the point is just to get more encrypted data out on the net, but this just seems pointless to me.

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    1. Re:I don't know if this is really a good idea. by Kaenneth · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Pointless for the individual, but great for the masses.

    2. Re:I don't know if this is really a good idea. by rusty0101 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I understand that you send all your paper mail through the post office as post cards. Right?

      Same idea.

      -Rusty

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    3. Re:I don't know if this is really a good idea. by spinkham · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The perfect is the enemy of the good.
      This is MUCH better then what we have now, and if you need stronger security, you can use something else instead of/also.
      It is foolish to completely trust any internet connections. It is foolish to completely trust anything. There may be a video camera watching your typing and screen, a keyboard logger or rootkit installed on your computer, etc.
      Limited security and authentication is so far better then none at all, and you can still do more authentication manually if you want.
      The perfect is the enemy of the good.

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  13. Dumb ISPs by Gothmolly · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Tell those ISPs to go fsck themselves.

    IPSec traffic OFTEN looks like "hack" attacks - weird, short packets, protocol 50 and (sometimes 51), streams of UDP 500, etc. Because it's all binary, its more likely to trigger the "shellcode" sort of alerts. An IDS will see the binary stream "F00F" in your payloads and assume you're doing a DoS attack or something. Trust me, I know - I helped build the first version of Guardent'sIDS solution.

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  14. OE cannot be used by the majority... by sweet+'n+sour · · Score: 4, Informative
    Unless you've got a class C or larger ip block to yourself, you probably won't be able to use OE. Dynamic ip addressers need not apply either.

    If you've got a static ip block that is smaller than 255 addresses, most ISPs will only let you assign names/keys/other to your ip addresses through classless reverse delegation (RFC 2317 http://www.ietf.cnri.reston.va.us/rfc/rfc2317.txt) .

    The problem I ran into was that KEY requests never reached my servers (CNAME, TXT, others worked fine). This made it impossible for other OE enabled systems to communicate with me since my box seemed to be configured to talk OE, yet they could never get my key to begin negotiation.

    Another terrible side effect from this was that any OE server I DID try to communicate with would KEEP TRYING to negotiate with me forever until I could get them to shutdown their OE...

    1. Re:OE cannot be used by the majority... by velkro · · Score: 2, Informative

      You can use dynamic IP's for Initiator-Only OE, where you can initiate new OE connections to OE Enabled servers. While others can't start a new connection to you (so running a server on your dynamic IP would be a problem) you can surf OE enabled sites fine.

      Re: KEEP TRYING to negotiate with me forever - this was true in the OE defaults for 1.97 - 1.99. The old default was to rekey forever. In 2.00, rekey is set to "no", so you don't rekey once the SA has expired.

  15. Virus heaven by pseudorandom · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Has anybody thought about the fact that this removes the option of network level filtering? Think about the scenario in which a virus is created that spreads quickly via web servers (e.g. IIS). Currently, it is possible to filter out viral traffic because the routers can inspect the messages. This prevents the spread of the virus even though the hosts/severs remain vulnerable.

    Once all traffic is encrypted using OE, the routers/firewalls cannot recognise the type of traffic anymore, and virii will be able to spread to all vulnerable hosts.

    1. Re:Virus heaven by Yostage · · Score: 2, Informative

      One solution to this is that you distribute the firewall work and place a firewall on each host. Then the end host will have decrypted the traffic and can analyze the packets in cleartext.

      There's plenty of current research in this subject, look at Bellovin's paper on Distributed Firewalls as a starting point.

  16. Opportunistic encryption for email? by astrashe · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I really love the idea of opportunistic encryption, and I used to think that I'd like to see it added to email. Once people have exhcnaged mail with each other, all further traffic would be encrypted. This could be done in the clients, and wouldn't require any changes to the email infrastructure at all.

    I know that there are lots of problems with it, mostly related to key management. It wouldn't be perfect security, it might not even be good security. But it's a lot better than plaintext.

    What you'd want would be a way to take control of the keys when you thought it was necessary, an opportunistic system that would get the best key that it could find, but which would allow you to override whatever the opportunistic system would do on its own.

    The problem I have with this now is that I'm not sure I oppose government surveillance any more. It's a horrible thing to say for someone who spent the early nineties lurking on cypherpunks. I think that they've been able to clamp down on terrorism pretty effectively, and I don't see much evidence that the power has been misused.

    I'm getting old, and turning into one of those people I had contempt for -- a guy who is willing to trade freedom for security, and who deserves neither.

    But I do think that from a technlogical standpoint, opportunistic encryption is the way to go. It's a great, clean, simple idea.

    The most successful use of crypto for the general public is SSL on the web. It works because it's transparent, no one has to think about it. That's why opportunistic encryption rocks.

    Perhaps -- and this is a real stretch -- what we really want is a whole new email system, one that's designed to be robust in the face of things like spam, and that includes things like encryption, etc. Dual protocol clients could "opportunistically" move communications from the old system to the new one totally transparently. After a few years, we could all turn off the old email protocol.

    Opportunism is a great way to look at upgrading protocols.

  17. Not really. by wirelessbuzzers · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If this becomes popular, I can see the intelligence agencies having a fit.

    Probably.

    They might lose one of their best information feeds; the internet.

    Maybe. The thing is that the intelligence agencies are plagued by too much data, and sniffing the internet doesn't help much. Maybe Carnivore is useful, but I think they probably are having trouble looking through all that.

    f this sort of technology were to be rolled into the main distributions as well as Microsoft/Apple packages, the internet would then have a decent level of privacy.

    Maybe. There's SSL for most sites where you would really care though. And traffic analysis would still be possible unless they encrypt the IP headers (ie, go to IPSec). And a lot of the privacy loss is when the database of Merchant X gets hacked / sold out to spammers, and all the encryption in the world will do very little against that. No, I take it back, anonymous digital cash and IPSec should do something.

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  18. DNS vs IKE key exchange by maynard · · Score: 3, Informative

    I fiddled with both FreeSWAN and the OpenBSD implementation of IPSEC. Trying to get them to interoperate was a total nightmare, primarily because of the differing key exchange protocols. At the time I wanted to use OpenBSD server side because it supported hardware crypto cards while Linux didn't, which is now a non-issue with current Linux kernels.

    I still think that straight IKE (Internet Key Exchange) is a better method of handling key exchange than DNS - it just seems like we're adding too many unrelated record types to DNS, which is leaving us with a mess of clients/servers that can and cannot understand certain records. The AFS folks have done the same thing, yet I don't see AFS records in DNS maps all over the place. One point I'll make about this, we used to have hesiod records in our DNS maps which we had to rip out when we last upgraded BIND because it didn't understand the record type and would puke and die on startup. DNSSEC only makes the problem worse - unless everyone agrees to support the new record types and upgrades.

    OTOH: automagically performing a key exchange and then setting up a transport mode point to point IPSEC exchange is a very cool thing! Most people think IPSEC is about tunneling whole IP networks within the IPSEC protocol, but ubiquitous transport mode is really the holy grail of IPSEC. Basically it allows one to encrypt any TCP/UDP stream without regard to the underlying port side protocol - thus making ssh, httpssl, ftpssl, etc redundant. Telnet, ftp. http, etc suddenly becomes secure by default without the user having to do or know a damn thing! This is a far more elegant general purpose solution than the variety of encryption schemes we use today, each with their own idiosyncrasies, potential security holes, and command line switches.

    Go FreeSWAN team!

    --Maynard

  19. Re: not sure you oppose govt. surveillance?? by astrashe · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I understand your points, and I really felt the same way before 9/11. And it's a hard thing to talk about, because the government seems to keep a lot of information from us.

    But I wonder: why don't we see more terrorism here than we do? Why do other countries, who are far less involved in the rest of the world, see so much more? It's especially puzzling when you think about how open our society is -- it's easy to move around, to do whatever it is that you want to do.

    Part of it, I think, is that people know that we will respond with overwhelming force. That's what happened to Afghanistan.

    But part of it, I think, is the surveillance. I think it's a big part of it.

    On the flip side, I don't see much of that information, the stuff they get by doing surveillance, showing up in everyday life. I know people who use drugs, who do unusual things sexually, who send emails back and forth criticizing the government and the president, etc. And nothing bad ever happens to them. Whoever is listening, if anyone is listening, isn't acting on that sort of stuff.

    It seems to me that we have, as a practical matter, the freedom to do just about whatever we want. I say this because I know people who do all sorts of stuff, things that society disapproves of, even things that are illegal. And the system, such as it is, tolerates this.

    The fear of surveillance is that it will produce a police state. I just don't see that we're living in a police state. I went to berlin and a couple of eastern bloc countries before the iron curtain came down, and this isn't like that. You can do what you want here.

    On a practical level, I don't think there's any question that what we're giving up is more than paid for by what we get by the surveillance. The problems that I see with it are either (a) philosophical, or (b) fears about what might happen in the future, when the people running the system will probably be less scrupulous than they are now. The last thing, in particular, is a real problem for me.

    It is really extraordinary, though, that the US can be as hated around the world as it is, that we can be as open as we are, even going so far as to have lots of the people who hate us living here, and that things are nonetheless quite safe.

    My feeling is that we have to acknowledge that, on a certain level, before we start agitating. I'm not suggesting that things couldn't be better than they are -- just that before we talk about changing things, it makes sense to acknowledge the good things in the status quo, so as to make sure we don't inadvertently toss that stuff out when we make changes.

  20. waiting for free windows client by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So, other than windows 2000's native IPsec support, is there another (legally) free-as-in-beer IPsec client for commercial windows users?

    The only one I've seen was the one that came from PGPnet or Desktop or something - and it was only free for non-commercial users.

    I know some commercial vendors' vpn clients do support standard IPsec connections (Nortel, Cisco, etc), but AFAIK it's not legal to use them if you haven't bought the company's products...

  21. FreeS/WAN IPSEC implementation... by GC · · Score: 2, Informative

    The FreeS/WAN IPSEC implementation is seperate from the implementation that will be included in the Linux 2.6 kernel.

    The big question is - Is it compatible? and will FreeS/WAN evolve to use the IPSEC implementation.

    I've used 1.9, and it worked fine for me, but I find the iproute2 and IPSEC implementation in the 2.5 development branch of the Linux kernel somewhat more interesting.

  22. Re: not sure you oppose govt. surveillance?? by glesga_kiss · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I understand your points, and I really felt the same way before 9/11.

    So, what exactly has changed? The US psyche has been changed because this is the first time there was a large number of innocents on your home soil. Previously, even during full-scale wars, the US mainland has been safe.

    However, the many parts of the world have had death on their doorsteps for years. Why change your views on privacy and civil liberties on one event? The "Everything changed" thing just isn't true.

    Why do other countries, who are far less involved in the rest of the world, see so much more?

    Most terrorism is related to territorial disputes, e.g Northern Ireland/IRA, Basque Region/ETA and Saudi Arabia/Al Qaeda. Many countries don't have terrorist attacks in them at all, so I wouldn't go so far as to say the US is more or less targeted than anywhere else that has a terrorist problem.

    Also, the US is no more "open" than most places in the free world, where a lot of the terrorism seems to be.

    It is really extraordinary, though, that the US can be as hated around the world as it is, that we can be as open as we are, even going so far as to have lots of the people who hate us living here, and that things are nonetheless quite safe.

    No one hates you. They hate some of the things your government has done. Only extremists see that as validation for killing civilians.

  23. Reverse DNS? by Mike+Hicks · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Unfortunately, full opportunism (both incoming and outgoing connections being encrypted) requires you to have a static IP and control over your reverse DNS entries. I will have that someday, but I can't really afford it yet. Also, I doubt many people will jump for that in the future, but I guess one never knows..

  24. One risk of encryption is government searches. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Some time ago a mailing list on a controversial subject was running on my home machine. One of the rules was that no criminal activity could be discussed or facilitated via postings to the list.

    As a matter of policy, while that list was running all traffic both on the list and to and from the machine was UNencrypted.

    The reasoning:

    - Someone unhappy with the subject matter of the list, with being kicked off it for misbehavior, or just mad at the list operators for unrelated reasons, might file a tip with a police agency claiming illegal activity.

    - Due to the list's subject matter, the tip might be considered credible.

    - If the traffic to the site was UNencrypted, they could obtain a wiretap warrant and examine it offsite (and would prefer to do it this way).

    - If any of the traffic to the site was encrypted, they would have to sieze and examine the machine to satisfy their investigation, causing considerable disruption. (And they might also take encrypted traffic as a confirmation of the tip.)

    The list administrator says it well: Leave it unencrypted and they get to bore themselves to tears.

    The list was retired (and a successor started at another site) before I needed to do encrypted traffic between home and work.

    That was quite some time back, and encrypted traffic was uncommon then except for security agencies, a very few businesses, a few experimenters, and a few crooks. At this point encryption is far more common - what with VPN, SSH, and IPSec. And with ready-for-primetime FreeSWAN it will become still more comomn.

    But the core of the original risk is still there: If you're using world-class encryption, and the government gets a bee in its bonnet about you doing something undesirable, they'll need to physically search your machine for evidence or keys, or plant an onsite bug such as a keyboard monitor, to find out what you're up to. (Or they'll find it less expensive to do it that way than try to crack your encryption from outside.)

    Fortunately, a sudden widespread deployment of encryption can get us "over the hump" - going past the point where it is rare enough that security agencies can target people who use it, to the point where wiretapping is pointless and searches on only suspicion-plus-encryption are too expensive.

    That would create an economic incentive to avoid fishing expeditions and mostly search only on credible evidence of wrongdoing (plus an occasional governmental rape of a political enemy or other terrorist action against an outgroup or annoyance-to-cops).

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  25. That's Deliberate FUD, Troll ! by billstewart · · Score: 2
    The whole point of mathematical cryptography is understanding the work level required to crack it so you can decide whether an algorithm is good enough for what you need. One of the nice things about public-key crypto is that you can make the key longer at roughly N**2 cost, which increases the cracking effort by roughly 2**(N/logN) *, so if you are willing to quadruple your computation time, you increase the cracking effort by a factor of ~2**100, pushing it out of the range of things that can be cracked with current technology during the lifetime of the known universe. The longest RSA keys that have been cracked are on the order of 600 bits. There's some evidence that if anyone built Shamir's TWIRL hardware, for a cost of ~$50m, it might be possible to crack 1024-bit keys in under a year, so you might want to use 2048-bit RSA for anything the government might be interested in this decade, depending on what you believe about Moore's Law's longevity. But basically, it's easier and cheaper for them to sneak in and put a bug in your keyboard than to crack your keys mathematically.

    The author's posting sounds like those people who troll about "NSA put a backdoor in PGP" and rot like that. Some of them are motivated by the fun of trolling, while some sound like they're spook sympathizers deliberately trying to undermine the public's use of crypto.

    In sheenmaster@frob.us 's case, he's got a product on his website about his product FlameCrypt, which given his Slashdot posting I wouldn't touch with a 10-foot pole even if it did have documentation and the algorithms posted where you can get at it without registering on his site and/or downloading the program. Crypto people are concerned about privacy and about good documentation.... What I could find about it on Google\(tm was a reference to earlier versions that let you put in your own algorithms and "an algorithm generator program to automatically create new algorithms." Pure snake oil, which is consistent with his flame. Too bad - his web site had an entertaining counterflame about all the spelingg missteaks being intenshunnul.

    *Minor exception - Elliptic Curve is 2**N, so it can get away with shorter keys than RSA or Diffie Hellman, but it's a newer theory and not everybody's convinced that a theoretical crack won't show up. It tends to have annoying patents on some of the versions as well, but it's convenient to be able to use 165-bit keys instead of 1024- or 2048-bit keys when you're trying to save space in packets or autogenerate the keys from passphrases. Also, the work factor I gave for RSA cracking is very approximate, and depends on what the best factoring algorithms are this year. But the basic principle has been constant for a long time, which is that a small linear or quadratic increase in encryption workload causes a basically exponential increase in cracker workload, and we've been on the pro-privacy side of that curve since before PGP first came out. Moore's law has meant that since PGP was good enough to use 512-bit keys on an 8086 in 1991, and 1024-bit keys on a state-of-the-art 386, back then, 2048-bit keys have been usable since about 1994 on a Walmart-quality PC, and your cellphone could have been running 1024 bit keys by about 1997 if the NSA and their equivalent thugs in Europe weren't pretending that they were forcing cellphone companies to use crippled crypto to keep the Commies from using it.

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  26. They've disliked it for years. by billstewart · · Score: 2, Insightful
    John Gilmore and his friends, including the EFF, Cypherpunks, and academic crypto community, have been annoyances to the NSA and their ilk for years. He's done things to them like winning lawsuits in Federal court to get fundamental books on crypto declassified (after doing the search to find one public library that had copies of them), funding the EFF DES cracker machine design to drive the nail into the "56-bit DES is good enough for you" rulemakers (after the "40-bit RC4 is good enough for you" had been cracked by various grad students and implemented on T-Shirts) (And by the way, the NSA never returned the T-shirts that Raph Levien submitted for munitions-export approval...). The more important work was probably the social organization that helped make people aware that this is a civil liberties issue as well as a geek-technology thing.

    A lot of credit also has to go to Netscape, who put encryption technology on everybody's desktop by including it in their browsers, which of course forced Microsoft to include it in IE as well. It's a different technical approach to attaching the crypto to the network, but you can use web browsers to downloaded encrypted files, read your webmail, etc., which is a large part of the problem space. Some of the core Netscape crypto developers were three brothers who also hung around Cypherpunks... The fact than a one-line ascii patch could "fix" the 40-bit crypto in Netscape and make it 128-bit was only partly technical convenience. And the "Develop and ship the code so people can use it" approach to protecting civil liberties is a lot more direct than ask-permission-first lawsuits, though some people went to extreme risk trying to keep their asses out of jail after doing so, like Phil Zimmermann. The FreeS/WAN people have also been taking this approach for a long time - it's developed entirely outside the US to avoid being subject to US crypto export requirements (John's a funder, and a user, not a developer for this stuff.)

    Technology like this _has_ been rolled into popular software - the Internet stimulated awareness of the business need for crypto at around the same time that computers got fast enough to make it relatively practical. Virtual Private Networks are a different part of the IPSEC space than Opportunistic Encryption, since they're designed for letting approved people have a private conversation rather than letting just anybody access your machine, but they've been a standard business capability for a few years now - otherwise telecommuters would have to dial into dedicated modem pools, and if you remember running those, they were expensive and annoying to maintain. The IPSEC crew were an important part of the industry standards work, going to the various bake-offs to make sure things really interoperated, and having a free implementation that was vendor-neutral was a big help in getting everybody working together during the early still-flaky days. Middle-aged Microsoft operating systems had PPTP VPNs on them. They were terribly broken, and I think the WinXP stuff has real IPSEC built in, though that may only be XP Pro. And gradually there'll be better-working stuff there.

    There are a lot of packages using SSL and SSH to do crypto

    • SSH has pretty much replaced telnet as a way to administer machines remotely, except when you can use SSL-encrypted web forms.
    • Client-side SSL certificates haven't really taken off yet, but server-side certs are enough for most of the problem. I think some of the SSL-based clientless VPNs like Neoteris use Client-side.
    • The last several SMTP versions have supported SSL/TLS encryption, so you finally can send your email encrypted among systems that support it, with the servers supporting the encryption rather than having to encrypt every message.
    • Microsoft Outlook and Eudora and some other email packages support crypto as a standard feature, using S/MIME. They also support plug-ins, which means that PGP integrates into them pretty cleanly, so you can send encrypted email to people whose public keys you have, and in some cases can fetch the keys automatically from LDAP servers if your corporate email does that.
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  27. Routers, and IPSEC vs. SSL by billstewart · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Cisco routers have IPSEC capabilities, if you want to pay extra for the IOS versions that support it. Most Cisco routers have really wimpy CPUs, so if you're trying to handle any real volume, you'll want a crypto accelerator board also. Basically, you end up paying over $5000 for a router that would otherwise be under $2000 (or ~$500 on e-bay :-) (YMMV on Juniper or Lucent or Nortel or other router brands, but it tends to be true there too.) By contrast, a Pentium-200 can pretty much handle IPSEC for a 10mbps Ethernet load, and you might as well just build the crypto into your web server or mail server since you're more likely to use a 2GHz machine instead. If you want to build an appliance, those 206-MHz StrongArm boards are pretty popular.

    The debate about whether to do crypto at Layer 1, 2, 3, 4, or 7 has been going on for over a decade and a half. (Some people argue that crypto in the SSL/SSH sense is really layer 5 or 6, one of those OSI Session or Presentation Layer things that the TCP world doesn't worry too much about, but alternatively you can call it Layer 4 :-) Physical and Link-Layer crypto are fine for private networks - WEP is basically a Layer 2 crypto system which would be a good thing if it weren't badly thought out and badly implemented, and the NSA has been using Layer 2ish crypto on X.25 networks since the 80s, back when X.25 was the way you did international data networks. IPSEC has the advantage that it protects _all_ the communications between your machine and another machine, which can be really effective if that matches your communication patterns, and it means that the applications inside don't need to be modified to use crypto as long as they run over vanilla IP. Layer 4 cryptosystems like SSL and SSH are much more trouble - applications need to know about them, and they don't protect the machine against protocols that don't use them, but the operating system doesn't need to know, and intermediate routers and such don't need to know about it, so it can be more convenient to implement for applications that can use it. Layer 7 - things like PGP-or-S/MIME-encrypted email or encrypted file systems - is obviously much more customized, protects even fewer things, but sometimes it's the right way to go also.

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  28. Clueless anti-VPN Cable Modem ISPs by billstewart · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I'm really surprised to hear UUNET complaining about IPSEC. They shouldn't care.

    However, there are some cable modem companies that really object to anything VPN-like. It's nothing technical, just pure greed. They assume that if you're using IPSEC, it's a VPN for work, and they have a higher price for "business ISP service" than for "residential". There are even a few DSL companies this rude and clueless. Most Cable modem companies and some DSL companies also object to running anything server-like on their networks, because they're worried about overloading their asymmetrically small upstreams, and because they've got a leftover habit of paranoia about bad performance due to early equipment problems, all those PacBell "WebHog" TV commercials, worries about bad PR from neighborhood porn web servers hogging the cable, etc.

    While most cable modem companies are still desparately clue-deficient, they've at least mostly figured out that one reason people are buying broadband in the first place is to be able to work from home, and that means that customers _are_ going to use IPSEC and not just fetch HTTP and POP3, and now that telco DSL service is widespread, they're a little more responsive to competitive pressure.

    Some telco DSL providers are apparently clueless about this also, but relatively few.

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