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Dancing Barefoot

Christopher Holland writes "If you've followed the recent phenomenon of blogging at all, you've probably run across the weblog (online journal) of Wil Wheaton at wilwheaton.net. Wheaton, best known to film fans as Wesley 'The Boy' Crusher from Star Trek: The Next Generation, has reinvented his public persona from oft-derided teen idol to a kind of affable head-geek. From his web site, the thirty-something actor and writer dispatches frequent updates about his working and personal life, his memories and thoughts on the Trek experience, and the technology that fascinates him and his geek brethren." Christopher reviews below Dancing Barefoot, the smaller of Wheaton's new books (the other will be out soon). Dancing Barefoot author Wil Wheaton pages 107 publisher Monolith Press rating 7 reviewer Christopher Holland ISBN 0974116009 summary Wil Wheaton holds forth on being a geek with a blog.

After nearly two years of blogging, Wheaton compiled and edited an autobiography from his blog entitled Just a Geek, to be released in June 2003. Several of the stories which didn't fit into Geek have been collected in a smaller companion volume, Dancing Barefoot, which is now available from Wheaton's publishing company, Monolith Press (www.monolithpress.com). The legions of Trek fans who have rediscovered Wheaton as a guy much like themselves, as well as those weblog readers who enjoy Wil's humor but don't know the difference between trilithium and tribbles, will find Barefoot irresistable. Those with only a casual interest in Wheaton but familiar with Trek will find the book's showpiece, The Saga of Spongebob Vegas Pants, well worth reading. Wheaton's conversational, intimate writing style may even convince them to read the rest of the book. Cartoon illustrations provided by Ben A. Claassen III are an excellent complement to the casual essays.

Barefoot begins with four short pieces, essentially vignettes of days (or even moments) in the author's life. These range from the amusing (ruminations on teenaged lust and paths untaken) to the melancholy (Houses in Motion, a paean to Wheaton's deceased great aunt), and one needn't be told that they were culled from journal entries, because they very much read that way. The best is Houses -- although it sometimes ranges into maudlin territory, it is also the most courageous writing in the book. Wheaton's generation has been raised on a diet of pop culture and cynicism, and it's invigorating -- if somewhat startling -- to see someone of that generation openly expressing such feelings of devotion and despair.

The man who spent his formative years aboard the starship Enterprise departs from the short form for the final and most engrossing portion of the book, the aforementioned Spongebob Vegas Pants. It's the chronicle of a Star Trek convention held in Las Vegas, during which Wheaton tolerates the alternatingly ugly and kindly faces of fandom, but eventually rediscovers his enthusiasm for the Trek universe. Those who have attended such conventions will immediately recognize the fan archetypes, while those who have never been to such an event may decide that they never, ever want to. Fortunately, the story is less about the horrors of being a convention guest and more about the resolution of Wheaton's conflicted personal feelings about having been a part of the Trek phenomenon -- including his unpleasant run-ins with the original captain of the Enterprise, referred to repeatedly as William F---ing Shatner.

Certain sections of Dancing Barefoot could have used another turn under an editor's pen. Sponge Bob Vegas Pants, in particular, has a few passages that don't serve the story much, but as with the deleted scenes on a special edition DVD, some readers will be grateful for the extra material, regardless of how it affects the overall pace. Frequent atticisms will sustain the rest of the book's audience through the book's slower passages, though, and the author's humility is an effective antidote for the feeling that one might be about to read the memoirs of yet another self-indulgent celebrity blowhard -- which Mr. Wheaton certainly is not.

Given that the engaging Dancing Barefoot comprises the material that didn't make it into Just A Geek, it feels much like an appetizer to the larger work. Let's hope the main course is as tasty.

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  1. No need for a clever nickname... by los+furtive · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...just a clever book title.

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  2. Boy Crusher? by athakur999 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Wheaton, best known to film fans as Wesley The Boy Crusher

    I admit I didn't see all the episodes, but I don't remember seeing one where Wesley went around crushing boys.
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    1. Re:Boy Crusher? by Mononoke · · Score: 4, Funny
      Wheaton, best known to film fans as Wesley The Boy Crusher
      Actually, he's probably best known to film fans as Gordie Lachance, from Stand By Me.

      He's best known to Star Trek film fans as 'Wesley, the boy on the cutting room floor.'

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    2. Re:Boy Crusher? by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 2, Funny

      Its probably some fanfic episode. I hear they tend to lean that way from time to time.

    3. Re:Boy Crusher? by CleverNickName · · Score: 5, Funny
      I admit I didn't see all the episodes, but I don't remember seeing one where Wesley went around crushing boys.

      You don't recall the show where Wesley sat in 10 forward, crouched in the corner behind a plant, and said,

      "Oh look at the little Klingon kid! Oh, Alexander . . . I have something for you . . .I'M CRUSHING YOUR HEAD!"

      Crush. Crush.

      "Hahahaha! How do you like it now, flathead?!"

      "Ohh . . .here comes Picard. I bet it will be hard for you to give me a speech about truth and duty when . . . I CRUSH YOUR HEAD!"

      Crush.

      Crush.


      I think they show it on Trek Uncut from time to time.
  3. Trek, Blogging and Envy by Scot+Seese · · Score: 4, Funny

    Quite the number of trolls out today. Considering that Wil has enjoyed a somewhat unique experience in one of the most loved TV franchises in the modern era you think people would be more inclined to post thoughtful replies.

    Then again, I suspect the trolls are simply driven by a wracking, crushing feeling of sexual inadequacy.

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    1. Re:Trek, Blogging and Envy by joshsisk · · Score: 3, Informative

      Wil is definitely a geek. He learned HTML & PHP so he could create his web site himself, and has written at least one magazine article about Linux.

  4. Loved it - what else can I say. by RavenDarkholme · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was lucky enough to get a sneak peek at Dancing Barefoot as well. If you've read Wheaton's blog at all, you may be familiar with his funny, often self-deprecating, and above all, honest writing style. Sometimes, his blog entries are brief one-liners, but other times, they are quite courageous and emotional stories that really draw you in.

    Even if you don't want to be drawn in.

    Of course, I wasn't all that drawn in, you know, 'cause I'm a bad ass.

    No, really.

    And I didn't get choked up at ALL reading any of it, especially the one about his Aunt Val's house.

    I did NOT.

    Shut up.

    Where was I? Oh yeah. Dancing Barefoot takes some stories that were previously on the blog, and adds to them, finishes them -- puts some more polish on the edges, and presents something that is incredibly human, touching, and even grand.

    This book is worth reading just for the Saga of Spongebob VegasPants alone. Even if you're a long-time blog reader, I can almost guarantee there is some stuff you haven't seen yet.

  5. alt.wesley.crusher.die.die.die.die.die.die.die by EnderWiggnz · · Score: 3, Funny

    yeh, he's been a huge presence in usenet for some time now....

    maybe, we could get don lapre to write a book, too.

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  6. Pro-Wrestling? by Otis2222222 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Actually, this was a reference to his former pro-wrestling career, where his title was "Wesley, The Boy Crusher". It's a period that Wil would rather soon forget about, thank you very much.

  7. Thoughtful writing by Metropolitan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm glad to see some of Wil's writing make it into print after having read his blog for so long. His style online, while not always what one would consider highly-polished (an asset, actually) is very heart-felt and honest.

    Nice to see someone who had an early acting career not show up as one of those 'and they found him in his car, stoned out of his mind, with 17 sheep and a bottle of vodka' sorts of stories. Wil seems to be a decent guy, and I hope he succeeds enough with his writing to make that his profession, if he chooses.

    Cheers, Uncle Wil.

    1. Re:Thoughtful writing by warpSpeed · · Score: 3, Funny
      Nice to see someone who had an early acting career not show up as one of those 'and they found him in his car, stoned out of his mind, with 17 sheep and a bottle of vodka' sorts of stories.

      Whoa, is that Dana Plato in the back seat?!?!...

  8. So what's new/unique about this book? by GuyMannDude · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What a content-free review. We're told time and time again that we will find this book facinating but never how this book provides something that books written by other Trek actors or other genXers doesn't. Are we supposed to find this 'better' than other books because of Wil's supposedly candor in his writing style? It's not clear to me.

    It sounds like this book is only directed towards Wheaton fans. This review doesn't suggest that this book will view already familiar subject matter from a fresh perspective. Maybe it does. Hell, I certainly don't know. But this review is terrible. The review also states that the book is comprised of four vingettes. Well, are these things actually related? Or is it just a collection of stuff? Again, the review doesn't say.

    Seriously, my time is pretty valuable. I only read stuff that I think will provide me with something fresh and new. This review does not tell me whether this book does such a thing.

    GMD

    1. Re:So what's new/unique about this book? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      Seriously, my time is pretty valuable.

      ...he says without a hint of irony, while posting on Slashdot about how valuable his time is...

  9. That's on PSG's Wave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    That's on PSG's *Wave*, "Dancing Barefoot" is. The original tune was featured prominantly in a 1997 episode of Millennium. And covered a few times be lesser artists (U2, Beverly Sister, Kiss).

    1. Re:That's on PSG's Wave by los+furtive · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm not sure what PSG stands for, but wasn't Dancing Barefoot originaly a Patti Smith song?

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  10. Re:Positive? by RavenDarkholme · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I want to know more about its general feel! I want to know more about what I might not like! I want to know more than "There are parts that need to be polished, but ignore my last sentance"!

    The general feel is kind of like the author is a friend or a family member writing you a letter about stuff. Like the review says, "Hey, dude, you gotta check this out" kind of thing. It just sort of makes you feel like you know the guy, even though of course you don't. Like you might have hung out together in high school, then lost touch.

    What might you not like? Well, you might not like that kind of friendliness. The stories are emotional in many ways. Depending on your point of view, you might see them as overly sentimental or even maudlin. I didn't, but I know a few cynical folks to whom any indication of emotion is automatically sneered at. It's not a technical book. It's more of a glimpse into one person's life. If you don't care for personal glimpses, you might not like it.

    Dunno. I've watched some episodes of Star Trek, and even enjoyed them, but I had no idea who Wil Wheaton was until I once read his Slashdot interview. I just enjoy his writing, and this book contains some of the best.

    What else would you want to know?

    The illustrations are cool too.

    Heheh.

  11. Re:A geek? He should be claiming instead... by Mononoke · · Score: 4, Informative
    "I'm not a geek, but I play one on tv."
    He's running Mandrake on an iBook. Isn't that geek enough for you?

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  12. Re:Shut up Wesley!! by RatBastard · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I am a sad sad man.

    No, not really. You are someone who has manged to seperate Wil Wheaton, the actor and human being, from Wesley Crusher, the scourge of mankind, and Satan's sex slave.

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  13. What a comeback by t1nman33 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm surprised that Wil hasn't been on "Where Are They Now?" on VH1. It's absolutely amazing how hardcore-trekkers reviled him in yesteryear, and everybody else essentially ignored him. And here he is, a Slashdot regular. You gotta take your hat off to the guy...not everybody gets a second chance.

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    1. Re:What a comeback by EyesWideOpen · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm surprised that Wil hasn't been on "Where Are They Now?" on VH1.

      He may as well have been. He was on a similar show on ABC, "Our Favorite Stars, Then and Now," recently (May 8 I believe). He mentions it in his May 8 entry on his site.

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  14. Wil's on fark too by British · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I never thought many moons ago I would see someone on TV, and then talk to him many years later on this Internet thing.

    I discussed how much I hated some horror movie where his family was getting infected(I can't access IMDB right now). He replied on fark a few posts later how much he hated it as well.

    I felt like I upped my geek status at that point.

    1. Re:Wil's on fark too by guacamolefoo · · Score: 4, Funny

      I never thought many moons ago I would see someone on TV, and then talk to him many years later on this Internet thing.
      .....
      I felt like I upped my geek status at that point.

      I have a saved email from Richard Stallman. The topic it was on is irrelevant to me now, but the fact that I corresponded with an uber geek and got a response other than the typical restraining order I usually receive is something that I wanted to record for posterity, so I have saved the email. Ah, the power of celebrity.

      Accordingly, please mod this, and all my future posts, "-1 -- Fucking Loser."

    2. Re:Wil's on fark too by ShaiHulud-23 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Several years back I sent a short message to Terry Pratchett after finding his email address on alt.fan.pratchett, to which he is a regular poster. I didn't have much to say except to thank him for writing such great stories and I was sure he was so deluged with pointless fan-email that I would never get any acknowledgment from him. I was stunned to receieve a reply within 24 hours, to which I replied in kind, and 24 hours later got a reply to my reply to his reply. I could have tried to keep the correspondance going, but decided to stop pestering him at that point.

      Eight years, two computers and four email addresses later, I still have copies of those four messages saved on a floppy somewhere. That level of personal contact is much cooler than any autograph.

    3. Re:Wil's on fark too by EyesWideOpen · · Score: 2, Informative

      I discussed how much I hated some horror movie where his family was getting infected(I can't access IMDB right now).

      If you can access it, you can also see his filmography here.

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    4. Re:Wil's on fark too by dodobh · · Score: 2, Interesting

      /me looks at framed cheque for USD 2.56, signed by Donald E. Knuth.
      And the email responses to the correction I sent him :).

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    5. Re:Wil's on fark too by bourne · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I have a saved email from Richard Stallman. The topic it was on is irrelevant to me now, but the fact that I corresponded with an uber geek and got a response other than the typical restraining order I usually receive is something that I wanted to record for posterity,...

      I remember the first time I met Stallman, too. While a restraining order might have been appropriate, I wouldn't be the one needing to be restrained.

      I spent a few minutes before his talk wondering why Harvard let random homeless people walk around their lecture halls pretending they had a gun in their pocket and leering at people. Then he went up to the podium and started talking. Then he went insane when I threw out a hypothetical and included the phrase "god forbid", at which point he expounded loudly on his views that there is no god.

      I now have a theory that most people who worship the man haven't met him.

  15. Remember, Bill Shatner and Lorne Green, ... by burgburgburg · · Score: 4, Funny
    two of Canada's finest Shakespearean actors.

    Stop laughing.

    1. Re:Remember, Bill Shatner and Lorne Green, ... by identity0 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, remember that one scene in MacBeth...

      "KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!"

      Wonderful acting, that.

  16. Best Wil Wheaton Interview by sssmashy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Check out Wil's interview with The Onion AV Club. Lots of good insights on the absurdity of child stardom, and the bizarre love/hate relationship with Star Trek fans.

    I think Wil's done a great job moving away from his strange past... hopefully he will soon find a strong movie role that suits his unique personality.

  17. Can anyone really take this review seriously? by Farley+Mullet · · Score: 3, Funny
    . . .those weblog readers who enjoy Wil's humor but don't know the difference between trilithium and tribbles, will find Barefoot irresistable.

    Yeah, both of them.

  18. Why hasn't he posted yet? by jeblucas · · Score: 3, Funny
    The guy posts all over slashdot--how can he leave this alone? I expect to see a reply to parent from CleverNickName stating unequivocally:

    OMFG DANSIG BARFUT IS TEH FUTAR!!11

    With a link to Amazon.

    ...or at least his site, or someplace to buy it.

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    1. Re:Why hasn't he posted yet? by CleverNickName · · Score: 5, Informative
      The guy posts [slashdot.org] all [slashdot.org] over [slashdot.org] slashdot [slashdot.org]--how can he leave this alone?

      Well, I didn't have anything to add to the conversation . . . but since you asked, I'll see if I can put something worthwhile in here.

      I read at 5, so forgive me if I don't bite on a particular troll.

      Someone asked if this is a "fresh perspective" on anything.

      I don't know. It's my perspective on several things:
      • accepting the loss of somone who is very dear to me
      • enjoying the things in my life that come with being a husband and stepfather
      • recalling some of the joyous days when I was a teenager, and the world was so simple (a fact to which I was oblivious)
      • accepting my place in the Star Trek world, and putting to bed some 17th level daemons (all with 4d12+5 Whips of Self Doubt)


      Should you buy it? I don't know. Only you can make that choice.

      Who is the anticipated audience? Well, people who read my weblog (about 500,000 a month, as of last week) will certainly enjoy it, because all the stories I pulled from the blog are ones that have been very popular with readers. Star Trek fans will probably enjoy the Saga of Spongebob Vegas Pants -- I can say this with certainty, because I've read it at conventions, and the crowd always loves it.

      Is this just a cut-n-paste from my site? A "dead tree" version of WWdN?

      No.

      I took the stories from the weblog, and I rewrote them. I think I've matured as a writer since they were first written, and I've rebuilt them. I had the technology to make them faster, better, stronger.

      They are also illustrated by my pal Ben, who is an OUTSTANDING artist. The illustrations really lend an extra dimension to the reading experience.

      If you're one of those people who has some sort of primal need to hate me, and everything I ever do, (please note: Wil != Wesley Crusher) I doubt anything in this book is going to change your mind about anything. (As a matter of fact, I doubt that anything I do at all will change your mind. That's why I read at +5.)

      But if you are curious, you can always take a look at my website, and read some of the stuff there. If you like what you see, there's a good chance you'll like this book.

      Of course, here is the ObBuy link, and, uh, I guess I'm supposed to scream "OMFG DANSIG BARFUT IS TEH FUTAR!!11" for some reason that currently eludes me.

      . . . but back in my day, we would have said "0/\/\fG! |>@/\/c!nG b@r3f00+ !5 +3h /~0Xx0rX, d00d!!!11"
    2. Re:Why hasn't he posted yet? by Om242 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Honestly, Wil...

      The only thing the Geeks want you to write about is your makeout session with Ashley Judd in the episode titled "The Game".

      That, my friend, was when your stardom peaked. :)

      ++Om

  19. Hmm. by Firehawke · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've never had the particular honor to have been able to speak with him in person or on an online forum, but I've read over some of his comments and blog posts in the past. This book sounds like one I need to add to my list in the near future!

    Mr. Wheaton has always come across to me as being an honest, true techie with a Clue. The fact that he speaks his mind without hesitation only makes me respect him that much more; a guy could easily dig himself into quite a hole with as many ears listening as he has.

    I wonder, though, if this is the beginning of a new wave of publications-- dead-tree compilations of blogs? I'm not sure what I feel about that. For every good blog, there're a few hundred that are a total waste of electrons.

  20. Some of the scripts Wil has done have been bad by StandardCell · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wil's a great actor. I remember him from way back when in Stand By Me, and even from The Last Starfighter. But the worst piece of writing I've seen in nearly any program was a TNG line where he meets Riker in the hallways of the Enterprise-D and says:

    "Can I walk with you?"

    Gahhh, I still think about it and it makes me cringe...but some folks could mistake the bad writing for bad acting. His revival is much welcomed for me, and that book will probably be an interesting read.

  21. A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius by stanwirth · · Score: 4, Interesting

    From the review of Dancing Barefoot:

    The best is Houses -- although it sometimes ranges into maudlin territory, it is also the most courageous writing in the book. Wheaton's generation has been raised on a diet of pop culture and cynicism, and it's invigorating -- if somewhat startling -- to see someone of that generation openly expressing such feelings of devotion and despair.

    Startling, but not unique in this generation. David Eggers' memoir A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius: Based on a True Story specialises in this style of self-revealing, self-referential, reflective, intelligent, witty prose. One can't help but notice the similarities in the relationship between Eggers and his brother Toph, and the relationship Wheaton has with his stepson. While reveling in the part of himself that will always be a boy brought out by the younger (the child is father of the man, and all that) he also can reflect on the call to greater responsibility required by the relationship, accepted somewhat reluctantly.

    Eggers started a whole (and very good) imprimatur with a group of authors and artists who also transcend the pop culture they were raised on. Good Stuff and worth reading!

  22. Re:This book is irrelevant, it will be assimilated by Mononoke · · Score: 2, Informative
    If anyone can find a dead-tree merchant who's taking pre-orders for (or acknowledges the existence of) books by Wil Wheaton, post it here? Please?
    There's a link in the review, but just to make it easier for you, here's the monolithpress order page

    There ya go.

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  23. Re:Who is he? by EyesWideOpen · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://www.imdb.com/Name?Wheaton,+Wil
    http://www.wilwheaton.net
    http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wil_Wheaton
    http://slashdot.org/~CleverNickName/journal


    That should get you going. ;-)

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  24. One of the reasons I think people hated Wesley: by Maul · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is just a thought, but I think that some of the younger Star Trek: TNG viewers might have even been JEALOUS of Wesley Crusher.

    He is smart for his age (as many teenage Star Trek watchers were, or at least tink they were), and I think it might be easy for some younger viewers who were around Wesley's age at the time to relate to him.

    However, the kids watching the show lived in the world of Junior High and High School, possible where they were made fun of for being nerds, trekkies, etc... whereas Wesley lived on the Enterprise and got to have at least a few cool adventures.

    So I think it was easy for a young Trek fan to wonder why they couldn't be in a "cool" situation like Wesley was. So they were jealous of him.
    Some people might have also been jealous of a Wil Wheaton for being able to play Wesley on Star Trek and be on the Enterprise set rather than in school.

    Personally, I'm jealous of Reginald Barclay. Yet another crazy, incompetent mental case with a better job than I have.

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  25. Re:Who is he? by cgenman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wesley Crusher was the boy on Star Trek, the son of Doctor Beverly crusher (the younger doctor from the 3rd season on), whose father was killed by a painful choice Picard made to save more lives. Wesley Crusher was a 16 year old character written by a 60 year old man to resemble how 10 year old boys looked at the world in the 50's. Ironically, Wil Wheaton played, in Stand By Me, a 10 year old character in the 50's written by a 60 year old man to resemble how a 16 year old boy looks at the world in the 80's.

    Wesley Crusher had a few flirting romantic spats with girls, was nearly executed for walking on the grass, helmed the starship through far to many dangerous encounters, and was eventually canned due to near universal revilement of his character. Quite frankly, Wesley Crusher was insulting to the teenage audience of the show, as he was written with all of the deep understanding of the turmoils of youth shown in "The Family Circus". If it were set in modern times, the writers would have given Wesley Yu-Gi-oh cards.

    His character walked off with the traveler after 4 seasons, never to be seen from again (until Nemesis, which I haven't yet seen). The void left by that departure was shortly thereafter filled by Lt. Barkley, another character whose sole purpose was to have blundering errors of judgement.

    Wil Wheaton, on the other hand, is a very personable guy. He's honest and open, and his acting in Stand by Me and Toy Soldiers reflects this. He's also a nice guy in person, as friends working at A Wrinkle in Time have said. He's done his penance, and deserves to be taken as a serious actor outside of the Trek universe.

  26. Head-geek? by dougmc · · Score: 3, Interesting
    a kind of affable head-geek.
    I've seen the term `head geek' before -- it referred to the leader or alpha geek. I'm not sure how I'd apply it to Mr Wheaton, though.

    It's neat that Wil has `geek' tendancies, and it's not often that celebrities have blogs (but becoming more common), but he has much to learn before we can dub him `head-geek'.

    Unless he's locked in a closet with my grandma and a tricorder, of course :)

  27. I'll admit it... by sirgoran · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I thought he was good in Stand By Me. But the thing that bugged me about Wesley, was they made him into such a whiney, little snot on ST:TNG. I was also bothered by the fact that this "Advanced" and "Modern" version of Trek still treated him as a "dumb kid." Despite calling him a "boy genius" in the opening teasers prior to the shows launch.

    Had they written a better part for him, and treated him like an equal, I'm sure that fans would have liked him more.

    But with that aside, I have to give credit to him for being able to take the good with the bad in stride. He's still able to look back on Trek and Smile, and still able to smile when fans face him and say "I really hated Wesley."

    How many of the rest of us would be able to do the same without giving folks a big "F*** You?"

    I for one can say, while not a "fan" of Wesley, I can give kudos to Mr. Weaton for hanging in there with a bit of class.

    -Goran

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  28. Re:Who is he? by lhbtubajon · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not exactly.

    1) Wil quit the show, he wasn't canned.

    2) His character was seen after season four. He came back for an excellent season seven episode.

    However, good insightful comments about the writing of his characters. I never quite looked at the inverse relationship of his characters in Star Trek and Stand By Me. Roddenberry really didn't have anything to say with the Wesley character. He seemed to just want him around to be some kind of superior innocence.

    I wonder how Gene reacted to the public irritation with his characterization of Mr. Crusher.

    Anyone know? CleverNickName?

  29. JUST a Geek? Try Ubergeek. by interociter · · Score: 5, Insightful
    At this point, Mr. Wheaton has become THE Geek. He has some of the strongest geek credentials in the subculture. Let's do the list:
    • Crewmember on the USS Enterprise
    • Codes and maintains his own website
    • Uses Linux instead of Windows on his home machines
    • Worked on the Video Toaster
    • Obsessive blogger
    • Posts on Slashdot
    • Free Speech activist
    • Frequent (but not frequent enough) guest and sometimes guest host of The Screen Savers
    • Host of Arena on G4
    • Gamer, both video and role-playing
    What more can you ask for? Seems to me that Wil Wheaton has become the shining star of Geek Culture, the Ubergeek. He's both articulate and telegenic, and has a deep understanding of technology's role in society. Should Wil Wheaton decide to run for office, I'd vote for him in a minute.
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    1. Re:JUST a Geek? Try Ubergeek. by interociter · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Being a TV actor has nothing to do with being a geek (except maybe negatively).
      No, but being directly involved with the production of Star Trek adds geek points.

      Coding and maintaining a website does not provide any geek status anymore.
      Actually, it does. Sure, anyone with the desire can create a website, but writing the code yourself using php instead of Front Page puts you far ahead of 90% of the personal sites on the web. Keep in mind that 90% of humanity still see computers as scary boxes, and writing any sort of code as advanced wizardry.

      being a blogger of any sort is a count against geekness
      Again, no. Sure, anyone who wants to can do a blog, but it's the wanting to that adds a few points. See above.

      Free speech is good, but unrelated to geekness.
      Agree, Free Speech is not limited to geeks, but it has always been a major facet of geek culture.

      Again, being on TV doesn't related to geekness
      Agree in general, but guesting on and guest-hosting "The Screen Savers" implies a level of technological sophistication. Being on TSS and ST:TNG aren't like being on "Charles In Charge".

      Let's try another comparison: Wheaton vs Shatner.

      Both were on Star Trek. To avoid 30 responses about the relative importance of the actors to the Trek universe, let's just say both were on the show and call it even.

      Both have websites and blogs. Wheaton codes his from scratch using php, does all the design and content himself, and plays a certain role in the daily maintainance of the server itself. Shatner pays someone. Geekvantage: Wheaton.

      I'd assume that Shatner has a PC. I have no idea what it runs, but I'd guess Windows. Wheaton proudly runs Linux. Geekvantage: Wheaton.

      Wheaton worked on the Video Toaster. Shatner worked on TJ Hooker. Maybe Wil didn't lead a Dev team, but Shatner's never done anything more technological than shout "Phasers on stun!" Geekvantage: Wheaton.

      Wheaton posts on Slashdot. Unless Shatner lurks, I seriously doubt he's reading this. Geekvantage: Wheaton.

      Wheaton hosted Arena and guest-hosted The Screen Savers. Shatner hosted Iron Chef. Geekvantage: Wheaton.

      Wheaton plays D&D, Illuminati, Grand Theft Auto, and collects vintage Atari 2600 games. Shatner did William Shatner's Splat Attack. Shatner's involvement in gaming consists of doing voices for Star Trek games and cashing the check. Check out his filmography and search for "VG". Geekvantage: Wheaton.

      Final Summation: Wheaton

      OK, I'll grant you that Wil's no Linus Torvalds, Richard Stallman, or Steve Wozniak, but he's no newbie either. I'd stack him up next to Neal Stevenson or Bruce Sterling on geek points. And if you wanted to put someone on Crossfire to represent geek culture as a whole, who better?

      Finally, here's Wil Wheaton's geek code, pulled off his web site. You be the judge.

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    2. Re:JUST a Geek? Try Ubergeek. by Anthony+Boyd · · Score: 2, Funny
      What more can you ask for? Seems to me that Wil Wheaton has become the shining star of Geek Culture, the Ubergeek. He's both articulate and telegenic, and has a deep understanding of technology's role in society. Should Wil Wheaton decide to run for office, I'd vote for him in a minute.

      I'd turn gay and marry him.

  30. People aren't very nice are they? by Daetrin · · Score: 3, Interesting
    *looks at the replies to this and other posts*

    Wow, people suck. I hope these are just a fringe element, and not a representative sample of the current slashdot population.

    So for a different perspective, i thought Wesley Crusher was an annoying git, even though i'm a bit jealous of the name recognition (better to rule in hell than serve in heaven or some such.) I know very little about you, but you seem like an okay guy based off the posts here. Cool! You've got a book out! Wish i could do that :) Hope it does well!

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  31. Gene's feelings on the haters. by CleverNickName · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I wonder how Gene reacted to the public irritation with his characterization of Mr. Crusher.

    It hurt him a great deal.

    Wesley was Gene's idealized self. Wesley was the kid that Gene couldn't be, and he hated it that the fans, who he loved, hated this character so much.

    I remember once, we were at the same convention, and there was a group of fans chanting someting like "kill wesley" or "wesley sucks" or something equally intelligent.

    Gene, who was about a thousand at the time, and not exactly spry, stormed up on the stage, grabbed the microphone, and said something along the lines of, "All you people just STFU! I make this show the way I want to! I don't make it for you, I make it for me, and if you don't like it, you can watch something else!"

    There was a stunned silence, and then applause from the few majority of people who didn't share the opinion of the haters.

    It was awesome.

    I know that Gene respected and appreciated the fans, just like all of us do . . . but there's only so much a guy can take, you know?

    Just read this thread at 1, and you'll get an inkling of about 1/10E6 of what I put up with for 15 years . . . and I was just an actor on the damn thing. I didn't even create it.

    I know now, as a writer, that criticism of writing stings much worse than criticism of acting. The writing is much more personal, you know?

    And thanks for setting the record straight on my history with TNG. :)

  32. Re:I wonder if the Sci Fi Channel... by gmhowell · · Score: 2, Informative

    SciFi is trying to get away from 'space vessel' shows. One of the reasons they dropped Farscape. The current management doesn't like space vessel shows. They prefer quality fare like 'Tremors: The Series'. And John Edwards.

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  33. EPCOT 1989 by CleverNickName · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I remember noticing this really goofy guy . . .

    Heh. Some things never change.

    You made a teenage geek very happy. Thank you.

    That's awesome. I always try to be not a dick when people ask me for autographs and stuff . . . but when I was a teenager . . . well, I didn't just look goofy. I *was* goofy: insecure, awkward, and anxious. I could have easily let my insecurities get the better of me, and acted like some of the AC's here. I'm glad I didn't.

    I was at Disneyworld then with my best friend Darin. It was for his 18th birthday. I was 16, and we thought we were SO COOL (nod to Teen Girl Squad) being all the way in Mysterious Florida . . . I have nothing but wonderful memories from that vacation (even though I lost my nerve and didn't kiss the cute girl while I was there.)

    It's awesome to me that you have a good memory, and I'm part of it. Thank you for sharing it. :)