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Blue-Laser DVD Formats Wars

killmore notes a story running on ZDNet talking about incompatible blue laser formats of Blue-Laser DVDs which can store 36GB of data. The new format is from Toshiba & NEC and boasts backwards compatibility with the current standards for DVDs.

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  1. Great by jandrese · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just what the DVD medium needs, more freaking standards. Heck, last time I went into my local WorstBuy to pick up a pack of DVD-RW media (only wanted a couple) all they had was rows and rows of DVW+R discs and tons of empty shelf space for the DVD-R stuff. Does this mean we're going to have to start choosing between multiple Blue standards as well? Is anybody else tired of having multiple (completely identical feature wise) discs to choose from? Is this not lunacy?

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    1. Re:Great by Jason1729 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Is anybody else tired of having multiple (completely identical feature wise) discs to choose from? Is this not lunacy?

      I'm still waiting for there to one standard for DVD?R before I buy. It sounds like by the time there is a single standard for the 4.7G discs, it will be a moot point anyway because I'll just switch to waiting for a 36G standard.

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  2. I remeber the first format wars by gpinzone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Toshiba wanted dual layer and Sony (I think) wanted to standardize on flippers. Thank goodness they comprimized and kept both.

  3. There are standards? by Jasin+Natael · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > backwards compatibility with the current standards for DVDs.

    What standards? I've been waiting and waiting for the "current standards" to shake out, and they still haven't. Maybe I'll be able to get a DVD burner in another 2-3 years, when they finally do have a standard!

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  4. Re:backward compatibility by gpinzone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because if you don't, people won't buy your hardware. IBM vs. Apple, Clones vs. IBM PS/2, PlayStation 2 vs. Dreamcast, US Robotics vs. Hayes, SVHS vs. 8mm, etc.

  5. Oh dear, another format war. by mblase · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Two imcompatible formats promising the same thing. Whatever will we do? Will one be more successful than the other? Will one drive the other to extinction? Do you think that the winner will be the most technologically sophisticated, or the cheapest and most widely-licensed?

    Interesting news, but nothing I'm going to worry about. We've all weathered incompatible formats before. If you want to know which one will win, just wait a year after drives for both formats go on sale and check your Best Buy flier for the cheapest price.

  6. HD-DVD consigning itself to a niche market? by bnavarro · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There is an interesting commentary on this over at the Digital Bits. It looks like some companies don't want backwards compatibilty with today's DVD, and they want to lock down the market and prevent cheap Chinese players from entering the HD-DVD arena.

    If they do that, I think that you will see HD-DVD relegated to a LaserDisc sized niche market. Only true videophiles will spend hundereds of dollars to upgrade hardware, and hundreds more to replace their DVD collection with HD discs. The rest of the population will be perfectly happy with Anamorphic Widescreen DVD on a HD set.

  7. Re:backward compatibility by RatBastard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'll assume you're asking an honest question (here? at slashdot? HAHAHAHA!) and give you an honest answer.

    Backwards compatibility is implemented in order to not destroy the installed base of products. What good is a new DVD player that can't play existing DVDs? How many people are going to buy ANOTHER DVD player just to leave the old one in place because the new one won't play the 400 movies they already have? People already grous about having to keep a DVD player and a VCR!

    As for file formats, who cares if no one else is going to use your files? If you ever want to share them with someone else then you will need to either support an existing format or distribute the needed code to use your files with them.

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  8. Re:As wavelenth shortens, scratch-resistance dies. by peculiarmethod · · Score: 4, Insightful

    seems to have died out? have you considered how many cds would need to be replaced vs. not replaced in a situation where they were all protected vs. not? It's economics.. they changed their product into something you'll replace several times over if you're an average joe. They DID initially promote CDs as indestructable. *AHEM* we all know that is very very much bs.

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  9. Re:Article Text by DavidLeblond · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I love it how the media automatically assumes DVD stands for Digital Video Disc.

  10. but at what speed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    all this high capacity crap is all fun and good but in the fast pace world that i live in (audio and video) i need to make backups quick, and if i have to wait 4 to 6 hours to burn 36GB then this will not help me

  11. Not necessarily...increase error checking by siskbc · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I already have problems with my 2-year-old son scratching my CD collection. DVDs are even MORE sensitive to scratching. As the wavelength shortens and density increases, it seems reasonable to expect the thing to be a lot more sensitive to scratching. If the format stores a disc in a cartridge, then this is not a problem. However, cartridges seem to have died out years ago.

    That's probably true assuming the same format. But if they wanted, it would be smart to take advantage of that huge capacity by increasing the error-checking redundancy. That way you could take a belt sander to the damned thing and still maybe read it. Well, maybe not quite...but you get the idea.

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  12. Blue Laser halted by the Suits by malia8888 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    "The appetite for new investments in new production lines is small right now," said Wolfgang Schlichting, research director of removable storage at research firm IDC.

    IMHO this reads: " We are too poor right now to do much else than sell what we have and try not to go bankrupt. "

    It is sad that possibly some great ideas in IT are escaping. It is difficult to be innovative when a great mind is in fear of being dismissed, downsized, and laid off due to our current economy.

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  13. Re:Is it just me or... by takotech · · Score: 2, Insightful

    MD was more in competition w/ DCC that DAT. You can't blame Sony for trying. Although, being geek, I do agreee that it's lame. I think the IBM quote on Open Source sums it up best: agree on standards, compete on implemenation.

    Given the fact the the Apple SuperDrive uses DVD-R, I think you are safe. At least I hope so since I have a SuperDrive in my TiBook.

  14. Too fast for end-user demand? by ic3p1ck · · Score: 4, Insightful
    On the other hand, "the technology may be running too fast for end-user demand," he said. "For many, DVD is good enough."
    DVD good enough? I don't think so. Removable and backup media have been lagging far behind the increases in hard drive capacities for years now.

    We needed this technology yesterday!

  15. Re:Article Text by Guppy06 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, it would be "versatile" if the DVD Consortium would let you actually do something with the damned things.

  16. Check out.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Visit blu-ray.com and read more about those 25/50gb recordable discs supported by Sony, Hitachi, JVC, Panasonic, Philips, Pionner, Samsung, Sharp and TDK.