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Nintendo Bundles GBA Adaptor With Gamecube

Thanks to a multitude of sites for pointing to a new Nintendo press release announcing they're bundling the Gameboy Player with the Nintendo Gamecube system, starting June 23rd. The Gamecube will keep its US price of $149 for this added-value deal. For those unsure about what the Gameboy Player is, the press release explains it's "..a platform less than an inch thick, which acts as a base for the Nintendo GameCube. By simply inserting Game Boy cartridges [GB/GBC/GBA] into a slot in the Game Boy Player, consumers can use their Nintendo GameCube controller to direct action on the TV screen."

48 comments

  1. Hmm... by Lazyhound · · Score: 4, Funny

    How long before someone finds a way to use them as cheap ROM dumpers?

  2. Which GB? by Isbiten · · Score: 1

    Gameboy SP? or Gameboy Advance?

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    1. Re:Which GB? by PyroMosh · · Score: 3, Informative

      The Gameboy Advance and the Gameboy Advance SP are the same platform. Just a diffrent form factor. They both play exactly the same games.

    2. Re:Which GB? by prockcore · · Score: 4, Informative

      Neither.

      It's the GB Player. It's a little device that plugs into the bottom of the gamecube.

      There's picture and an article here:
      http://www.gamespy.com/hardware/march03/gbp layer/

      It lets you play gameboy games on the gamecube, with a gamecube controller.

    3. Re:Which GB? by GoRK · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually, to be very technical they are just a tiny tiny bit different. They are different enough that a cart can detect which model gameboy it's in by code (and it's not just some sort of query that returns "gameboy sp" - afaik, that sort of direct determination is not possible) -- some homebrew code is using the detection to slightly alter a game's color pallette to account for differences between the way colors look onscreen between the GBA and the GBA SP.. But other than that, there's no difference between the units and all code is 100% compatible.

      The introduction of the GBA SP undoubtadely left Nintendo with an overrun of original GBA product either pre-assembly or pre-shipment. Although I havent seen a site posting the innards of a Gameboy Player unit for the GameCube, I would bet that it contains a repurposed GBA motherboard.

      ~GoRK

    4. Re:Which GB? by PyroMosh · · Score: 1

      I didn't say they were identical. I said they were the same platform. As for the GBA player using GBA components, I doubt it, as I remember reading somewhere that Nintendo is still MANUFACTURING new GBAs. Some people (myself included) prefer the old style to the new one. And I'm sure parrents who are buying them for their kids appreciate the lower price tag on the older ones.

    5. Re:Which GB? by mcgroarty · · Score: 1
      A +5 not even for reading the article -- but merely for being bothered to look at the picture.

      This has got to be one for the records. :-)

    6. Re:Which GB? by Masami+Eiri · · Score: 1
      The game boy player has been out in Japan since before the SP.

      Of course, that still probably is the bulk of the innards.

  3. Makes up for the lack of PAL s-video... by Kris_J · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Finally something to make up for the fact that Nintendo screwed over Australia for the sake of Europe. RGB might be popular there, but equipment in Oz tends to go for S-Video first. Finding out that the PAL GC has no S-video stopped me from buying one. Since I'm a huge fan of the GBA, bundling the adapter will probably change my mind.

    That is of course if Australia ever sees the bundle.

    1. Re:Makes up for the lack of PAL s-video... by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      " Finding out that the PAL GC has no S-video stopped me from buying one."

      I hope I'm never that elite.

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  4. Interesting by Dreetje · · Score: 1

    This certainly sparked my interest. With such an adapter I could play the games I bought for the GBA. Not only that, but for people with a flash card they can play their own made games on it too.
    Most likely you can also use a GB-bridge to also play all your old games from the original gameboy on tv, that would be nifty.

    Oh and of course, I could also play the great games from the Cube.

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  5. This is good news by nicky_d · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One great aspect of this is it will allow big-screen, front-room access to wonderful games like Advance Wars and its imminent sequel - games which have far more depth than the majority of PS2/GC/Xbox titles, but don't stand a chance of being released on any of the 'proper' consoles because they're 2D, "old school", blah blah blah. Hell, until its big brother shows up, Mario Kart Advance is flat-out the best 'fun' racer you can play on the current platforms. Yeah, that's like having a SNES in your front room (no bad thing), but a great game is a great game, just like a poor one is a poor one, regardless of poly count and shaders. Truth be told, this will probably lead to my GBA games taking up far more screen time than their GC shelfmates. Bonus.

    1. Re:This is good news by leifm · · Score: 1

      I wonder if you will be able to play Mario Cart Advance 2-4 player on the Gamecube. If so I will definately be buying one of these things for my 'cube

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    2. Re:This is good news by nicky_d · · Score: 1

      Well, the cartridge doesn't allow for split-screen games, but I guess someone could write software to create four separate GBA sessions on a single GC and orchestrate a multiplayer split-screen game of the adapter cartridge that way, but I'd be very surprised if Nintendo did this. Then again, they do push the system link capabilities of the GBA, so it's something they might look at for the adapter.
      A lot of titles offer multiplayer games with only one cartridge, which would help. Some require multiple carts for extra features, but I guess a lot of that is to do with bandwidth between GBAs - something that needn't be an issue if all sessions are running on the GC.

    3. Re:This is good news by dimator · · Score: 1

      I'm a huge fan of 2D games too, but I've never owned a GB because of the tiny screen. Sorry, I can't handle 2 inch screens.

      But even more exciting than the gameboy player is the Hori Digital Controller. This is what will make the GB player a must have, at least for me.

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  6. I don't understand the Gamecube/Gameboy Link by utawoutau · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Nintendo keeps talking about their grand Gamecube/Gameboy intergration plans, but honestly the whole thing is really just too gimmicky for me. Most of the uses that Nintendo has come up for this have seemed really forced - added to the game just to use the connection - rather than well thought out or beneficial to gameplay in any way.

    In the new Zelda game, for example, you could use the Gameboy Advance connection to summon up a little flying dude that would drop bombs to uncover secret treasures. But you don't need to do it, and it adds nothing to the game experience.

    1. Re:I don't understand the Gamecube/Gameboy Link by neostorm · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree with you on some accounts. I've played most of the GBA/GC linkable games, and unfortunately a lot of them are unncessary gimmicks. However there are several that are an absolute blast, namely the Zelda Wind Waker additions. You can essentially play with 2 people, but even if you don't the game is completely different if you play through it with the GBA attached. Much fun.

      I'm glad that you don't *have* to use the GBA though. You kind of mention that in a negative aspect at the end of your paragraph, but if you think about it, it would be absolutely rediculous for Nintendo to sell a GC game that was only half-playable in it's sole state. There are a couple planned (or already released) at the moment, but I probably will never pick them up because I would feel like I was paying for an unfinished or partial product.

      Luckily the majority of the GBA/GC experiences more or less add up to being cool bonuses if you're someone who just happens to own both systems. Makes you wonder what route Sony is going to take with their new PS2-linkable handheld...

    2. Re:I don't understand the Gamecube/Gameboy Link by Dreetje · · Score: 1

      To my understanding and experience with the linking of the GBA and the GC it does add to some games.
      I myself don't own a GC (yet) but my smaller brothers do, and they really liked the way they could swap pokemon with several games. They were actually playing games to gain pokemon so they could use them on the GB. I know this example is from the Nintendo64, but I can imagine this should work the same for the GC.

      All extras are cool anyway. It just adds to the fact you can use your entertainment machines together to get even more!

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    3. Re:I don't understand the Gamecube/Gameboy Link by NanoGator · · Score: 2

      "In the new Zelda game, for example, you could use the Gameboy Advance connection to summon up a little flying dude that would drop bombs to uncover secret treasures. But you don't need to do it, and it adds nothing to the game experience. "

      Actually, if you have a friend watching over your shoulder, (or an obnoxious sibling) it gives them something they can do. You don't just look for stuff with him, he can fight enemies as well. You can drop bombs on enemies for 10 rupees. There are other spells as well, I haven't had time to mess with them yet. It's a co-operative addition.
      You don't need it to beat the game, but it's more than just 'nothing'. Don't be so cynical about it.

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  7. Gah! by Daetrin · · Score: 1, Insightful
    When are they going to learn? IANA Marketing Executive, but last i heard the GameCube did pretty badly over christmas because they didn't match the XBox's special offer, and are now only begining to catch up again thanks to Zelda. Now they are yet again deciding not to follow step with the other consoles, and thinking it will somehow turn out alright. Yeah, Sony is doing the broadband adapter bundle, but they're _also_ lowering the price on PS2s without the bundle! And Microsoft got the clue and dropped their prices acordingly.

    I still think Nintendo has the coolest system out there and has lots of potential, but someone in the upper echelons of management needs to pull their head out of their ass!

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    1. Re:Gah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The gameboy adapter will retail for about 40 USD when it comes out as a standalone unit. IMHO, they are packaging more value in with the GCN without changing the price on the unit.

    2. Re:Gah! by Daetrin · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and the PS2 broadband adapter probably retails for about as much too. However that doesn't change the fact that the basic unbundled PS2 droped $20, while the basic unbundled GCN hasn't budged.

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    3. Re:Gah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gamecube is already the cheapest system.

  8. The Game Boy Player already supports old games by Xenex · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Game Boy Player is the piece of hardware that is going to be bundled with GameCubes, and it supports Game Boy Advance, Game Boy Color, and original Game Boy software.

    No hacky GB-bridge type thing required.

  9. Will a free game still come with the $149 package? by veganjay · · Score: 1
    Any word on whether or not a free game still comes with the GameCube with this deal? Or will the Gameboy Player "replace" the free game in the deal?

    If you don't know what I'm talking about, several (all?) stores have been bundling a GameCube with a game for $149.

    For example:

    http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/ads/shops/createabundle /gc/default.asp

    The Gameboy player is definitely cool, but being I already have a GBA, I'd prefer the GameCube + Metroid Prime = $149.

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  10. Re:Will a free game still come with the $149 packa by Locky · · Score: 1

    Its up to you whether or not you would like the Player or a free game:
    http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/030515/tech_nintendo_1.htm l

  11. How about an SNES/NES/N64 Player by PaddyM · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Come on Nintendo. You know you could do it.

    1. Re:How about an SNES/NES/N64 Player by mcgroarty · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Come on Nintendo. You know you could do it

      Sure, but I don't think Nintendo is interested in driving the used/classic cartridge market. They'd rather up the interest in the GameBoy, as it's current product.

  12. What about Tilt games? by carou · · Score: 1

    For some GB games (e.g. Kirby's Tilt and Tumble) part of the control method is literally to move and tilt the controller - of course, for the GB this means you're tilting the entire unit and in fact there is a tilt sensor in the cartridge itself.

    How will this translate to the GameCube adapter? I wouldn't want to pick up, and tilt or shake anything that had an optical drive in it...

    1. Re:What about Tilt games? by RedCard · · Score: 1

      That's true, but that tilt and tumble motion sensor was only used in about two games.

      Second, I'd also point out that these games are incompatible with the new GBA SP, since the games load from the bottom (as opposed to the top) and therefore the directions are reversed when tilting the unit.

    2. Re:What about Tilt games? by Masami+Eiri · · Score: 1

      They've already stated that some games just won't work. Tilt-games, and games that rely on the IR sensor won't work.

  13. Game Boy Player separately? by MagicM · · Score: 1

    Does anyone know how much the Game Boy Player will cost when purchased separately? I like my Cube, but I'd prefer to not have to buy another one...

    1. Re:Game Boy Player separately? by DavidLeblond · · Score: 1

      $50 AFAIK

    2. Re:Game Boy Player separately? by zonker · · Score: 0

      what i'm really curious about, and i can't see any reason why it wouldn't work, is if i can get a gb player for my friend's broken cube. he was screwing around with it and now it gives out after a few minutes of use. as far as i can tell, the laser assembly is failing after a while. i'd like to just replace the assembly but i can't find any sites on the net that sell gcn parts (if anyone knows of any, lemme know). as the laser assembly is the most common part to fail, i don't really feel like taking my chances buying a broken cube on ebay for $50 only to discover it too has a dead laser. so hopefully there isn't anything else wrong with the gcn and the gb player will work for him...

  14. Game Boy Player costs $49.99 sold separately by veganjay · · Score: 1
    It will cost $49.99 sold separately:

    http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/categories/products/pro duct.asp?pf_id=233034

    This is the same price as new games. So, basically this is the same deal as the bundled game deal I mentioned in my previous post:

    http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/ads/shops/createabundle /gc/default.asp

    Somehow, I'm a little disappointed, as I thought they would drop the price a little more. Regardless, I may still pick one up.

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  15. Anybody remember the Super GameBoy? by Edmund · · Score: 1

    This sounds a bit like a Super GameBoy on steroids. However, I suppose that it would be a lot more practical nowadays with GBC and GBA games. Original GB games didn't look all that great on the big TV with the SGB even with the small visual facelift it offered. GBA games don't suffer from that.

  16. Not wanting to cut people out of the experience.. by Inoshiro · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They don't want to make games unplayable without the GBA linkup feature.

    However, especially in Animal Crossing, if you have the feature, you're in for even more wicked gameplay. A whole bunch of the connectivity they're showing (GBA as a controller, GBA 4 swords link to Cube, Crystal Chronicles, etc) looks like they thought about the games around the GBAs. Pokemon Collesium's probably going to really take advantage of it, not just as something that's cheaper and more reliable than ye olde N64 transfer pack, but as something that lets you monitor your Pokemon on screen without giving away details and strategies to other trainers.

    They're just starting to get into their connectivity stride, the same way MS is just getting into the online stride. Sony's frantically copying both companies (online bundle, camera USB device.. which is funny, since Monster Rancher 3 lets you use Picture Paradise on Sony USB cameras), and might start to lose momentum these next 6 months. We'll see how the summer and fall turn out.

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  17. Free Game by Snowspinner · · Score: 1

    I hope this doesn't replace the "free game" bundle. Between them, Nintendo has a really great bundle going. With this instead of the free game, though, I think it would be a step backward. =/

    1. Re:Free Game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  18. Re:Not wanting to cut people out of the experience by scot4875 · · Score: 1

    [PS2/Sony] might start to lose momentum these next 6 months. We'll see how the summer and fall turn out.

    Your optimism is encouraging, but my guess is this: despite having the oldest technology and fewest unique features, the PS2 will still be the most heavily advertised console. Consumers, being what they are, will still flock to the one with the most ad placements and bright, flashing lights.

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  19. something that's not completely clear by newsdee · · Score: 1

    Does the GB Player allow for GC/GB connectivity? For example, if I have Sonic Adventure 2 and Sonic Advance, can I transfer my Chao (tamagotchi raisable thingy) from a GB cartridge to the Gamecube game and vice-versa?

    I think you can't, since apparently you need to boot up the GB Player with a special disk, so you couldn't swap to a GC game for transfer.

    Can anybody who owns one of the Players confirm or reject this impression?

    1. Re:something that's not completely clear by yerricde · · Score: 1

      Does the GB Player allow for GC/GB connectivity? For example, if I have Sonic Adventure 2 and Sonic Advance, can I transfer my Chao (tamagotchi raisable thingy) from a GB cartridge to the Gamecube game and vice-versa?

      Future versions of these games will be able to access the Game Boy Player hardware, just as they accessed the Transfer Pak back on the N64. For now, you can link a GCN with a game to a GCN with a GB Player.

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    2. Re:something that's not completely clear by newsdee · · Score: 1

      Future versions of these games will be able to access the Game Boy Player hardware, just as they accessed the Transfer Pak back on the N64. For now, you can link a GCN with a game to a GCN with a GB Player.
      [if I had mod points, you'd have +1 informative from me :-( ]

      Given this fact, if there was a cheaper GB Player, I might consider it, but I prefer to use those $50 to partly finance a Gameboy Instead. I might not have fullscreen, but I can use the "double screen" feature from some games without worrying too much about money spent in batteries. :)

      [Note: I already have a GBA, but the screen is driving my nuts and I don't want to attempt the Afterburner mod].

  20. How to dump ROMs with an MBV2 cable by yerricde · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How long before someone finds a way to use them as cheap ROM dumpers?

    They already are. Just connect any GBA, GBA SP (with the light turned off; otherwise you get power issues), or GCN Game Boy Player to a PC with the MBV2 cable (which Nintendo still lets Lik Sang sell even after the lawsuit), and then exercise your Betamax fair use right with mb -1 file.gba -w 300. (Not available in Australia, whose copyright laws consider fair use a much narrower exception.)

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  21. Two GB games that this does not support by yerricde · · Score: 1

    The Game Boy Player, like any other GBA compatible hardware, does not support the original GB/GBC carts' analog sound connector. Thus Pocket Music for Game Boy Color won't run.

    The Game Boy Pocket, Game Boy Color, and GBA don't have the original (large) Game Link connector. The Workboy PDA conversion kit requires this connector.

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    1. Re:Two GB games that this does not support by Xenex · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If there's anyone out there that could find something that doesn't work with the Game Boy Player, it would have to be you, yerricde :)

      I'd feel pretty safe in saying that anyone with just standard, old, and boring official games that are simple cartridges that don't use any special features would work. Of course, fancy things like pinball games with vibrators, tilting games, cameras, printers, third-party keyboards, AM/FM tuners, mp3 players, and other "lesser known" hardware and games may have problems.

      The majority people wouldn't hit those problems, though. The people that do have fancy things would most likely have older Game Boy hardware around anyway, and could just use that.

      Or yes, they could hack something together to make it work! That's half the fun, afterall! ;)

  22. Have a LAN party by yerricde · · Score: 2, Informative

    but I guess someone could write software to create four separate GBA sessions on a single GC

    No. It's not emulated. There is only one piece of GBA hardware in the GB Player accessory.

    The proper way to run four-player Mario Kart Super Circuit on TVs is LAN-party style. Get four TVs, four GameCube systems and four GB Player accessories (or four GCN/GB Player bundles), four copies of the game (most games artificially limit what is available with one cartridge), and a 4-player link cable. Then connect the link cable to each GB Player, making sure the short plug is in the GB Player that starts the game.

    How do I know this? Anybody who reads Nintendo Power can be as knowledgeable about Nintendo's plans as alleged troll Dr. Samir Gupta claims to be.

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  23. Possibly... by yerricde · · Score: 1

    How will [GBC tilt games] translate to the GameCube adapter?

    Poorly.

    That is, unless Nintendo adds a function to the driver disc that emulates the tilt sensor's signals using the C stick.

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