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GNOME 2.3 Snapshot, KDE 3.1.2 Released

BSD Forums writes "The GNOME Development Series Snapshot 2.3.1 "Daddy Walrus", is now available. FreeBSD's Joe Marcus Clarke has ported this release (2.3) on FreeBSD and is looking for your testing help. Also, the KDE Project announced the immediate availability of KDE 3.1.2, a maintenance release for the third generation of this UNIX desktop."

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  1. I had no idea.... by frodo+from+middle+ea · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was reading all tha anti-radhat commotions regarding KDE and frankly I never understood what the fuss was all about.
    But now that i switched to gentoo (this is not ment to be gentoo praise), i finally realise how much can i customise KDE.
    But then again i am not sure if RH crippled KDE enough to be non-customisable.
    ROCK on KDE.

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    for the last time people, I am "frodo from middle eaRTH", not "middle eaST".
    1. Re:I had no idea.... by Kesha · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yeah, I was not sure either. I've been a RedHat user almost from the start (RH 4.2, 5.0, 5.1, 5.2, 6.0, 6.1, 6.2, 7.1, 7.2, 7.3). I hand built KDE-3.1 on RedHat 7.3 from CVS, and was happy with it.

      A while ago I upgraded to RH9, nearly tore my hair out after seeing what they did to KDE, and promptly switched to SuSE 8.2 professional (plus got a cool T-shirt from SuSE).

      I have long ago decided that if the stories are true I would let my wallet speak for me, and I believe RedHat 7.3 was the last RedHat I will ever have paid for. I am a SuSE user from now on. I wish RedHat better luck with GNOME, but I have made my choice, and it is KDE. Honestly, I wish RedHat would not support KDE at all instead of making changes to it that will never be accepted back into the KDE source tree, it's just a waste of effort that could be better spent on GNOME.

      Paul.

    2. Re:I had no idea.... by Ed+Avis · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I am currently a Mandrake user, but next time I upgrade I will probably go to Red Hat. They seem to be the only distribution making a serious effort to integrate the software they provide, rather than just pulling a bunch of packages off the net and installing them in /usr/. I don't care about ideological purity of 'the KDE environment' or 'the GNOME environment'. What matters is having all the applications work consistently together, and if Red Hat is prepared to kill a few sacred cows to do it, good luck to them.

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      -- Ed Avis ed@membled.com
  2. Re:Desktop war in news? by Figster · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Speaking of Gnome or KDE, I'm currently evaluating Linux on the desktop for the company that I work at and would definitly be interested in people's comments or any resources that would help me make a determination of which desktop to implement. There seems to be a lot of "noise" when it comes to choosing between these two desktops and not a whole bunch of useful information. Any takers? :)

  3. My one KDE feature request by Zapman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And it might already be there. Please let me know.

    I want ARBITRARY keyboard shortcuts. I want to be able to write a shell script (or any executable), and have it execute when I hit (ctrl)-(alt)-w (My keystroke to bring up a vertically maximized terminal window).

    I was quite scared with gnome 2.x when they seemed to take this feature away, but I found out how to do it eventually (gconf-editor under the metacity stuff).

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    Zapman
  4. KDE obnoxious bug still in 3.1.2 by mfago · · Score: 3, Interesting

    UI wars aside, KDE 3.1.2 still has an obnoxious bug. Please vote and/or comment at the given link.

    KDE is IMHO awesome, but its habit of automatically switching focus to error dialogs on another desktop is driving me insane. Especially since, statistics aside, the switcheroo invaribly happens when I'm writing a Slashdot post, and in my furor hit "enter" just as a warning dialog comes up.

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    Just another 2 minutes that I should have been writing my thesis.

  5. Lindows? by emo+boy · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Anyone? Is there a Click' N Run in the house?

  6. Gnome 3 by DeadBugs · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I am glad to see Gnome has not bowed to market pressure and released the latest version as Gnome 3.

    Unlike Mandrake 9 and MSN 8. None of which had version 1.0, 2.0, 3.0 etc. They just upped the numbers to match their competitor. (RedHat 9, AOL 8).

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    http://www.kubuntu.org/
  7. Re:Woohoo! More Format Wars! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
    Agreed!

    We need one standard OS, one browser, one office suite, one directory service, one ISP, one network protocal, etc.

    Before you know it you have a monopoly that looks awefully alot like a company in the pacific northwest.

    Standards cause problems like what I mentioned above. Its good to have choice to encourage innovation.

    What you like one gas company with one only standard automaker? I think not.

  8. Re:Desktop war in news? by einhverfr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Here are the basic considerations:

    1: You should install both if at all possible. There is a large and growing level of interop between the two libraries, and some of the GNOME applications are extremely advanced and powerful (Gnumeric, Evolution, etc.) Also KDE has many applications, so you may want to use them. And if you have both installed, you can use KDE apps on GNOME and vice versa.

    2: As for which one to use, I think you should evaluate both. Gnome 2.x and Kde3.1.x are both very mature and useable desktops.

    Here is what I would do. I would take 10 employees that seem of typical skill, set up GNOME and KDE on systems, and ask them to evaluate their uses.

    One think I will say as a network admin, though is that once the LDAP backend is completed for GCONF, that will be very helpful for network support. Of course until it exists, treat it as vaporware, and judge based upon the current capabilities, not the promised future.

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    LedgerSMB: Open source Accounting/ERP
  9. Re:why gnome/kde by Simon+Lyngshede · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ah yes, a wonderful window manager. Stil has a few bug and the development seems to have stop. Once you get use to EvilWM you hardly ever uses the mouse, just like it should be.

    Personally I never liked the desktop environments. Gnome and KDE are big and slow, at least on my old laptop. They also use a lot of screen space on eye candy. However most people will never feel at home in WMs like EvilWM or RatPoisen. They where never meant to be the thing that would attract the avarage computer user. Would your mom use KDE or EvilWM ? Let us remember next time some moron suggest making a standard interface for Linux (*nix) that most of us love it because we can choose the environment that aid us best in our work.

    KDE and Gnome are great because they make it easier for me to move my users from Windows to Linux, which is easier to administrate. And I win again :-)

  10. Redhat vs Mandrake by zank · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have used Redhat 9 and Mandrake 9.1 and for a KDE user Mandrake is better in every way. The theme is easy to change and KDE just feels snappier compared to the one in Redhat. Plus Redhat decided to hide the "show desktop" icon in the panel, one of the most useful features.