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New G3-Based Platform Runs Mac OS X

Worried writes "Pegasos is a new platform based on G3/G4 CPUs and it runs MorphOS and various Linux distros so far. This very interesting review of the platform over at OSNews points out that Darwin can play a significant role attracting new buyers. Another --possibly significant-- point in the article is that Pegasos can run Mac OS X via the Mac-On-Linux runtime kit. This is the *first* non-Mac platform that can run OSX without even the need for an Apple BIOS!"

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  1. Non-Apple BIOS by extrarice · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but since the second-rev G3 machines (blue and white towers), hasn't the Apple BIOS been unnecessary? Or am I confusing the Software-ROM (that the New World mac architecture introduced, ROM-in-RAM) with something else?

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    1. Re:Non-Apple BIOS by JayPee · · Score: 5, Informative

      If I remember correctly, there's still a small ROM that handles boot information, etc. Most of the higher toolbox functions are now held in RAM.

      Here's the technote about it;
      http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn/tn116 7.htm l

  2. Yeah you can run it but.... by BWJones · · Score: 5, Informative

    From the article: On this G3 600 Mhz, it would take 1-2 seconds for a MacOSX button to respond after pressing it.

    I don't know about anyone else, but I use my Macs to get work done, not to be waiting 1-2 seconds for clicks to respond. Therefore, I think I will keep using boxes made by Apple.

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    1. Re:Yeah you can run it but.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Then you'd absolutely hate this set up http://www.maconlinux.com/sshots/pic10.jpg where Linux is running Mac running Virtual PC running Windows running DOS.

      Personally, I don't understand why they leave it at DOS. DOS can run a C64 emulator which emulates the Vic20 which emulates CP/M (I've done it). Considering the speed of CP/M systems back in 1980, this setup should yield at least twice the performance of those old 1MHz clunkers.

  3. Just what I need! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Man, I have been waiting for this! A computer that will run MacOS X and Linux slower than the slowest Apple Macintosh. Now where is my wallet?!?!?

  4. This is the sickest Hack ever! by ehudokai · · Score: 5, Interesting

    fp!

    Why would you want to run Mac OS X under MOL?

    It completely defeats the purpose of MOL... and Mac OS X. MOL is designed to allow you to access your mac os x programs when running linux on a dual boot mac, but as far as I know you loose most of the flashy speed that you would get from a standard OS X install.

    I say just run linux and be happy.

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  5. The first...? by ikewillis · · Score: 5, Informative
    Let's not forget that MacOS X can also be run on an AmigaOne through Mac-on-Linux.

    From the Mac-on-Linux FAQ:

    Q: Does MOL run on the AmigaOne hardware (or in general, on non-Apple hardware)?
    A: It does. MOL runs on any PowerPC hardware (except 601-based systems). However, the EULA of MacOS prohibits its usage on non-Apple hardware (it is of course perfectly legal to use MOL to boot a second Linux thoiugh).
  6. Re:at some point... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As long as this falls into the "interesting hack" category, Apple won't care.

    However, if someone tries to market these things as "Mac clones", they can expect a lawsuit pretty quickly. Apple's EULA restricts OS X to their own hardware, and vendors can not legally preinstall an OS without a written contract.

    But, in all likelyhood, this is just Amiga Ressurection Vaporware Project #312, so who cares.

  7. Apple Schmapple by Seehund · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why does Slashdot insist on posting anything "PPC" under the Apple category?

    One of the interesting points with the Pegasos is that it's a PPC based consumer-oriented (as in non-workstation/server á la IBM) system that's NOT from Apple, it comes on a nice micro-ATX mobo, and it comes with a rather new non-Apple OS! The POP concept has come to fruition, and hopefully the Teron PX (a.k.a. "AmigaOne XE" when marketed to AmigaOS users) will also do well.

    That running Mac-On-Linux on Linux on a PPC system let's you run MacOS isn't all that sensational IMO...

    People might be interested in hearing a new Pegasos system has been announced for this autumn(?), which won't be hampered by the currently buggy Articia S northbridge. This will have a Marvell Discovery II northbridge (366(?) MHz DDR, gigabit ethernet...).

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  8. Re:The problem with Pegasos by bracher · · Score: 5, Informative

    funny, but not entirely accurate. not that one can be completely accurate when discussing mythological creatures, but......

    a pegasus is simply a winged horse. a _unicorn_ has a horn.

  9. Re:The problem with Pegasos by Jace+of+Fuse! · · Score: 5, Funny

    a pegasus is simply a winged horse. a _unicorn_ has a horn.

    Yes, but a Pegacorn is your top of the line, fully equipped mythical steed.

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  10. Breach of OS X EULA... by The+Placid+Casual · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The licence agreement on OS X precludes it being used on anything other than Apple licenced/made hardware.

    I would think that the manufacturers will be in the clear as they don't supply or load OS X on the system, but the actual owner of the installed copy OS X is in breach of the EULA...

    Can't see Apple identifying infringments, and tracking them all down though!

    (At least I hope they don't... they should be busy building the 970 Powermacs...)

  11. Re:at some point... by ichimunki · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This, of course, assumes that EULAs are valid contracts. Many of us would say they are not.

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