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Anti-Spam Software for Mom?

daemondev asks: "As a software engineer and FreeBSD user, I've had no problem setting up and using the early anti-spam solutions like Spam-Assassin, TMDA and PopFile. I'm reasonably happy with where I am today, but it certainly could still be better! On the other hand, these solutions are not at all appropriate for my mom, who now has a huge spam problem (she really doesn't need all of that Viagra). I'm looking for something that works "out of the box" and doesn't require a lot of in depth knowledge about email and text filters, and which ideally doesn't need to be updated and replaced continuously. She uses Outlook 2000 on Windows ME. Has anyone found a good package that they would trust to stop spam but that's easy enough for their mom to use?"

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  1. Do it yourself by Zach+Garner · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you are running that FreeBSD system as a server, you could run a fetchmail to get her mail off of her ISP's server, filter it, and let her then retrieve the filtered mail from your server. That may or may not be a lot of work, depending on your setup.

    1. Re:Do it yourself by trentfoley · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My parents had to change isp and email addresses due to a move. This pissed off my Dad. Well, I decided to help. I've got dsl with a static ip, so, I bought them a domain ($9 at godaddy), created an mx record at zoneedit (free), and configured my mail server to accept their domain.

      My parents don't even know that I'm using spamassassin et al on my mail server. Also, they never have to worry about changing email addresses again, assuming the .com tld stays in business.

      After about a year of running this, both my Mom and Dad have commented that they never get spam anymore. They hear from their friends and coworkers that the spam problem is getting worse every day. My Dad thought they were full of shit, until he was visiting and I showed him all of the spam that had been filtered from his account. Now, my Dad gets to brag about his "genious" son who can stop spam! I told him that I could also tie my shoes and spell "lose", but he wasn't impressed.

      The downside is that whenever there is any kind of error from outlook express, I get a call, especially from Mom. "My email is not working. When will you have it fixed? And, whatever is wrong, it is also keeping me from seeing the internet" Its all my fault. But, Mom's getting pretty good at cycling the power on their dsl bridge and nat router. That usually fixes it all just fine.

  2. CloudMark's SpamNet by LaRIC · · Score: 5, Informative

    Cloudmakr produces SpamNet. It works great for me. I get between 300-400 spam per day and it removes about 95% of those. you can find the product on http://www.cloudmark.com/products/spamnet/

    1. Re:CloudMark's SpamNet by icemax · · Score: 4, Interesting

      One little problem, CloudMark SpamNet has alienated the entire community it is based on. For 11 months, it was touted as totaly free community-based spam detection (using p2p bayesian filtering AFAIK), while the end-users beta-tested it. Now, as they reached their 1.0 release, a decision was made to charge $3.99/month for the "service" (which the community created by classifying mail as spam w/ their client). Read more on it here

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    2. Re:CloudMark's SpamNet by FrenZon · · Score: 4, Informative

      There is spamassassin for outlook, available here

      Personally, I'm using a combination of SpamBayes and the aforementioned cloudmark, although once my 30 free days runs out, I'll just be using spambayes, which seems much more accurate.

    3. Re:CloudMark's SpamNet by MarkGriz · · Score: 3, Funny

      Frankly, if they didn't see that coming, they were asleep at the wheel. Sure it's free while it's in beta. Hell, even Microsoft gives away free beta software.

      Did they really think CloudMark was going to continue to offer the service for free? You can't pay your bandwidth bills with spam (unless you are a spammer). Hey, perhaps they should offer a free, advertisement-supported spam filtering service :-)

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  3. Spam Inspector by Komarosu · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://www.giantcompany.com/ ...i use it at home, intergrates nice with Outlook 2000 and nice and easy to use (click "Is Spam" and "Isn't Spam") but it filters a good 90% of my spam without intervention. Its had only 2 miss fires but a quick click on "Isnt Spam" and its all fixed.

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  4. Here's one by Frequanaut · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Mozilla mail client (thunderbird).

    After training it for about a week, I don't think I've had one false positive, and *very* few missed.

    Plus the added benefit of it being less of a security risk for her as well.

  5. Re:Wish I knew... by cymen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I upgraded to the Bayesian version of SpamAssassin as part of my regular maintenance. I didn't train it at all. It works great. If false positives are such a problem why not lower the bar on what gets into your inbox? I just save all my spam to a Spam folder and check it every once in a while (using IMAP). This works great for me and I can catch the occasional false positive. I've had maybe one or two in the last year and neither of them was particularly important emails. They were short notes that got flagged.

    This in combination with the Mozilla mail client's Bayesian filter, which is easy to train, works wonderful. It would be cool to have Mozilla's Bayesian filter share its input with SpamAssassin.

  6. Use an ISP that has server-side spam detection by timur · · Score: 2, Informative

    I recommend Dreamhost. They use Razor, and you can have detected spam automatically deleted if you use IMAP. If you want POP3, then you'll need to create one filter on her email client, but that's something that you can do once and then forget about.

  7. Anti-Spam Software for Mom? by rocket+rancher · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have my mom using McAfee's Spamkiller. (www.mcafee.com) The learning curve isn't too steep (Mom got the hang of it almost immediately) and it is remarkably effective. The first time she launched it, the default filters correctly identified 36 out of 42 messages as spam. She occasionally asks me for help with particularly pernicious spammers, and I use those opportunities to educate her on creating more effective filters. Last time I checked, Spamkiller was knocking down 98% of her spam.

  8. Spambayes by ggeens · · Score: 2, Informative

    Spambayes was mentioned a few months ago in .

    It supports Windows, and has a plugin for Outlook. Besides the plugin, there is a web interface that is accessible from any browser.

    Setting it up seems a bit difficult, but after that it should be mom-friendly.

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  9. Popfile by spu · · Score: 4, Informative

    I use Popfile It's a Bayesean filter that is configured with an HTML interface. Very easy to use, and fairly accurate.

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    1. Re:Popfile by mrpull · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I've been using Outclass for a couple weeks and I'm pretty pleased. Outclass is a GPL'ed Outlook plugin that sits atop Popfile and eliminates the need to use the web interface to train the filters.

      It's not "mom-easy" to set up, but once it's up and going, she'll have no problem.

      mr.

  10. Spammunition. by Greyjack · · Score: 2, Informative

    Spammunition. It's free.

  11. Act as a mail relay for your Mom by Isao · · Score: 3, Insightful
    This might work for you. Since you're fighting spam for yourself, create a mailbox for your Mom on your smtp server, and configure her client to go to you for POP or IMAP mail.

    That way you simply administer anti-spam tools for her and yourself in a single step.

    This may have the added bonus of a common family domain, and of course it extends to siblings, etc.

    Before you do it, be sure you want to take on the responsibility of mail system management for your family. Frankly, since it's your mail too, it's likely less work than remotely administering several installations of client-side anti-spam tools.

  12. Prevention is the best cure by Bishop923 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Your best bet is to ditch the old email address and get a new one, then teach her the fundamental tenets of spam avoidance...

    1) NEVER give out your email address to someone you don't know. (This includes posting on forums and sites that "require" you to register with a valid email address.)

    2) Even if you think you are giving your address to a trusted source, read that Privacy Policy. Look for something like: "we do not share user data with our associates". If the policy is hard to find or isn't there, don't trust them.

    3) NEVER click the unsubscribe link at the bottom of the email.

    4) For those cases where you need to sign up with a non-trusted source to get information, setup an account purely for retrieving passwords and registration confirmation.

    Ignorance, as is the case with pretty much everything, is the biggest problem that is easy to solve. Don't think just because she's "Mom" she can't learn these tips. My parents and grandparents both had a really bad spam problem, and by just showing them how to avoid getting spam in the first place goes far in reducing the over-all problem. (Especially when you can get them to spread the word to their friends and co-workers.)

    1. Re:Prevention is the best cure by Electrum · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > 3) NEVER click the unsubscribe link at the bottom of the email.

      If you don't unsubscribe, you can't complain when you get mailed. Any legitimate companies that do mailings will never mail you after you unsubscribe. Companies don't want to mail people that don't want to be mailed and will complain. They want to mail people that will buy their products.

    2. Re:Prevention is the best cure by JBv · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Spammers are the scum of the net.

      If you ever give them the notion that you read their junk-mail, they will laugh at your naiveness and bloat you mail box with junk.

      I *never* click anywhere in a message, I don't even allow html mail to get images (ads) from the net.

      All sites that ask to register a password via mail end up in an overbloated yahoo account that I use just for that pourpose. Why would anyone ask for my mail if not to junk it?

      After 5.5 years, my mail account still gets about 1 spam on a bad day.

    3. Re:Prevention is the best cure by jzellis · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In addition to the aforementioned sensible ideas: if you really want to punish the evil bastards and you own your own domain, the guy who runs my ISP taught me a great trick:

      Whenever you need to sign up for something that requires actual interactivity (i.e. reading the e-mail they send you and doing something with it), simply use the name of that site as the username on the e-mail account.

      For example: I own zenarchery.com. If I signed up for a Yahoo! account, I would give them the address yahoo@zenarchery.com. Or friendster@zenarchery.com, slashdot@zenarchery.com, whatever.

      When you start getting spam in complete violation of their privacy policy, you know whodunit -- and you can start hitting them with the usual cease-or-I'll-totally-0wnz0r-you routine.

      This has so far prevented me from getting ANY spam, and taken a few years off the life of several unscrupulous sysadmins.

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    4. Re:Prevention is the best cure by phr2 · · Score: 2, Informative

      No one with any sense buys a remove list. No one wants to mail a remove list. That's just idiotic. Are you dreaming? Remove lists are precisely what spammers want to mail to, since it means the spam is reaching a real person. Why do you think spammers work so hard to bypass spam filters?

  13. Use sneakemail by Stalemate · · Score: 2, Informative

    Sneakemail and teach her to never give out her real email address to anyone. Just set up a new sneakemail address for whoever needs her address and give them that one. I have been using this for about 6 months since I got a new email address, and I still get no spam at all.

    The thing that really makes it cool for me is every email you get is forwarded to your real address through sneakemail, but sneakemail puts a label on it that you enter for each address you create. So, if you start getting spam from a certain address, just got to sneakemail and delete it.

    Heck, my mom doesn't even know my real address anymore.

  14. Yahoo! Mail by PoiBoy · · Score: 2, Interesting
    No, seriously. Does she have a Yahoo email address, or is she willing to get a new email address from Yahoo?

    They have a spam filtering algorithm, and it does work rather effectively. I'm not sure what they charger per month, but they do offer POP service; using Outlook won't be a problem.

    I use their domain hosting service, and I very rarely get spam mail. At least 99% of it is quarantined in a folder that I might check once a month or just allow to get purged automatically.

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  15. Whitelist using Outlook 'rules' by Krelnik · · Score: 3, Informative
    I had to do this for my mom, and I just used a very simple whitelist technique. It works well for her because there is only a fixed subset of people that she corresponds with (the family) and they are all in her address book.

    Both Outlook Express and the full Outlook have a "Rules" system that let you automatically move emails around based on various criteria.

    Simply set her up some rules that match on the various types of email she wants to get. In my mom's case we have a family mailing list, which I set a rule to match the subject line for. She also gets automated emails from a cooking site, and from her ISP, so I set up rules for that.

    The key is each rule should simply match a type of mail she wants to keep, and have the "Stop processing rules" option checked. As soon as one of the criteria is matched, the rules stop and the mail stays in her inbox. The rule need not have any actual "action" on it, its purpose is to match and stop.

    The last two rules are critical. The next to last rule should be a "Match on FROM address", and you should select EVERYONE in her address book. (And of course, set the "stop processing more rules" bit). You may have to update this rule as she adds to her address book.

    The very last rule is the key. This one is only going to be processed if NONE of the others match. You simply have this rule match everything, and dump everything into a folder named "Junk Mail".

    That's it. No extra software required. When I go visit her, she usually has a ton of stuff in Junk Mail, just give it a quick look to make sure there is nothing your rules are missing, and dump it for her.

    P.S. If that's not geeky enough for you, I also recommend Cloudmark.

  16. Re:Common Sense v1.0 by jezor · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is not particularly helpful, unless she happens to sign up for an ISP no one has ever heard of. Most major spammers use alphabet attacks to send to every possible combo of letters and numbers @ [name your popular ISP], so even brand new addresses at AOL will get spam in no time. The online form entries are, I'd suspect, only a very small part of the problem.

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  17. Mailwasher by stuckatwork · · Score: 2, Informative

    I use Mailwasher There is both a free version and a $29.95 pro version.

    Not quite an outlook integrated product, but the learning curve is easy.

    One of the nice features is that the mail is checked while still on the server, so the traffic is reduced a bit.

    It's got a few nice features. The latest incarnation of the freeware version is limited to one account,and does not include Hotmail access, but older versions did not have these limitations.

  18. Outclass and Popfile by rheimbuch · · Score: 2, Informative

    Outclass is a free Outlook plugin for Popfile. It has a nice easy interface that exposes most of the functionality of popfile. Outclass directly integrates with Popfile, instead of using it as a proxy, allowing Outclass to filter any email account that Outlook supports. That includes IMAP and Exchange accounts.

    IMHO, it's a definiate must-have if you use outlook.

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  19. Two free suggestions one commercial by balamw · · Score: 2, Informative
    I find that spamassassin's approach works really well and run it at home on Win32 following the instructions here.

    If she's using POP3 to download her mail I can heartily recommend SAProxy which encapsulates Spamassassin as a POP3 proxy with a nice Windows installer & configuration screens.

    I have not used this one but have heard great things about it: spambayes, a Python based Bayeian classifier with nice plugin for Outlook 2000/XP.

    Last but not least, since Mcaffee bought Deersoft you can expect that their next version of SpamKiller should be at least as good as Spamassassin Pro was.

    Balam