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Slashback: GSM, Buffy, Wobble

Slashback tonight brings you updates on the future of Iraq's cellular infrastructure, the real reason Buffy is departing, Intuit and Macrovision, and more. Read on below for the details.

Macrovision, everyone's favorite killjoy. byteCoder writes "Apparently Macrovision marketing is trying to put a good spin on Intuit's plan to eliminate the use of Macrovision's DRM software for pre-paid copies of TurboTax (as discussed last week here). This reminds me of the classic Monty Python line: "I'm not dead yet!""

That's got to be some spin -- An anonymous reader points to Eric Hellweg's Tech Investor on CNN, which suggests that the backlash which triggered Intuit's copy-protection reversal may have cost the company $100 million.

Can I use my Go Phone there? An anonymous reader writes ""In a follow-up to the Slashdot article 'CDMA vs GSM in Post-war Iraq,' The Reg has a story about how MCI has won the contract to rebuild the mobile phone system with GSM. This is a good thing for the people of Iraq that GSM is being used, GSM is the world standard and several U.S. companies (AT&T for one) are switching to GSM."

Adding Money to Insult. Neophytus writes "Remember the 'Star Wars Kid' that waxy.org found a couple of weeks ago? Well after over a million downloads the guy has been found. His name is Ghyslain, a 15-year-old tenth grader living in Quebec. Jish contacted him and got a brief, but interesting, interview."

No unlimited copy privileges in jail. the-dude-man writes "As reported here A 19-year-old pleaded guilty to costing DirectTV for leaking information about the secrets of DirectTV's most advanced anti-piracy technology to hacker websites. As part of the plea deal, Serebryany admitted to copying and distributing 800 megabytes of scanned documents from DirecTV, costing the company $68,000 in investigatory costs. Both sides stipulated to sentencing factors that carry six months to a year in prison under federal guidelines -- assuming no prior convictions. The sentencing court can depart from the guidelines only if the judge finds that the proposed sentence doesn't adequately reflect the facts of the case. According to court records affidavit, Serebryany's adventures began when he found himself with access to some of DirecTV's most coveted technological secrets while working for his uncle at a document imaging company at the office of a Los Angeles law firm, Jones, Day, Reavis and Pogue. The firm was representing the satellite TV company in a lawsuit against NDS, the makers of the smart cards DirecTV uses to control access to its signal."

For every 11 discontented customers, there's one of these happy oddballs! RedWingsSuck writes "A few weeks ago, I asked /. users what they thought about the wobble my 12" Power Book has developed. Last week Apple Care told me that I could send my laptop off for repairs. I decided to drive to the local Apple Store, about 15 minutes away, and drop it off. They had my laptop for less than 3 days. When I went in to pick it up, they told me that it was sent in and the BC (bottom cover) was repaired. It doesn't wobble anymore, so I am happy. I was really surprised with how fast it was fixed. I didn't mean to sound like I regretted my AiBook purchase in the last post, and now I even happier."

Relax, it's a television show. HardcoreGamer writes "Buffy creator Joss Whedon responds to questions from New York Times readers on Buffy the Vampire Slayer as it comes to the end of its 7 season run. He also discusses the now-canceled Firefly and concludes with one of the key reasons why the show is ending: 'I'm simply too tired.'"

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  1. I'm sure the fact by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That Sarah Michelle Gellar wants out, that the ratings are declining, and that no one wants Dawn the Vampire Slayer all contributed to Buffy leaving the air, too.

    1. Re:I'm sure the fact by ShaiHulud-23 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I actually came up with two lame puns for this and couldn't decide which one to use, so here's both.

      Dawn the Vampire Slayer... So each week we just watch a sunrise? Boring.

      Dawn the Vampire Slayer... So *that's* what the blue liquid was in Blade.

    2. Re:I'm sure the fact by Chasing+Amy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      As for the ratings, I have to say that I'm in the happy minority who *LOVED* Season 6. I think it was great for Joss and co. to put Buffy through that very dark and disillusioning period that many early twentysomethings fall into for a while after school is over and real life sets in. I think so many long-time fans were just too dedicated to the more lighthearted highschoolish years to really approve of the direction of Season 6, so the show's ratings dipped too far for comfort.

      However, Season 6 contains some of the best writing and dialogue, and while not everyone likes the plot arcs used (too dark for so many tastes) they actually touched on some really interesting stuff that's true to life. You could really see Joss and Marti's early-20's angst just pouring onto the screen, darker and more disturbing than *Buffy* had been before. The lighthearted edge that fans loved through the highschool and early college show really *couldn't* be there as much when Buffy herself was to disillusioned and depressed. The writing and dialogue was as good as ever, but with the harder edge and lack of as much softening lighthearted stuff too many longtime fans were put off.

      But think of all the great things that happened in Season 6. The finale episodes, with the death of Tara and Willow's evilification, were some of the most riveting of the series--even if Tara's death *was* hard for a lot of fans, particularly in the lesbian community. The musical episode, obviously, stands on its own and is so highly acclaimed by critics and most fans that it's high on the list of Best Episodes Ever. Even if the Doublemeat Palace episode was mindnumbing on many levels, it accurately captured the awful experience of being an underling at the menial jobs so many people work. Buffy and Spike had one of the most intense and incredible love scenes in the whole series, and we got to watch their relationship decline into the degradation that really does happen in abusive or unhealthy relationships. There was so much great stuff there--great, but often too dark for most *Buffy* fans.

      As for "Dawn the Vampire Slayer"--God, I was so hoping that the big "show you the world" speech Buffy gave Dawn at the end of Season 6's finale would turn into more screentime with the maturing Dawn, but it really didn't go very far. The Potentials ended up with the instruction that Dawn was seemingly going to get, based on Buffy's remarks at the end of the past season. Mmmm, little Dawnie really butters my toast! Hey, Michelle Trachtenberg *does* turn 18 and legal this year. ;-) Yummy. I was tempted to go to BuffyAuction.com and bid on the outfit she wore when she was seducing that jock in Season 7, but that would just be too creepy--plus my girlfriend wouldn't quite fit into it anyway. :-o

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      Chasing Amy
      (We all chase Amy...)
      "The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws"-Tacitus
    3. Re:I'm sure the fact by cquark · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't think that season 6 was much darker than its predecessors, though it did hurt that they tried to carry off the humor element of the season with the season antagonist, the Trio, who could have worked well as a monster of the week but who were grating rather than amusing when their antics were repeated week after week.

      Continuity with prior seasons was abandoned, both in terms of character and in setting. The most egregrious example was magic becoming addictive. Wouldn't Tara or Giles have ever mentioned that magic is the equivalent of crack to Willow, especially since there are "dealers" and magic crack houses? The magic addiction arc is especially frustrating as it not only hijacked the promising power corrupts arc for Willow, but it was completely useless as part of the dark Willow arc since it was Tara's death, not magic crack, that made Willow the nemesis in the final episodes.

      The writing has many other flaws such as Buffy coming to an epiphany every week about her depression then ignoring it the following week and Spike going to get his chip out (which not only the dialog implies but the actor was told was to happen) but ends up with a soul. Let's take a quick look at the dialog. Some of the worst dialog ever on the show again comes from the addiction arc, especially in the final episodes when Willow's saying things like "I'm so juiced," and at the very end, Xander saving the world with his yellow crayon speech was just embarrassing.

      There were many ideas with great potential in season six like the dark Willow arc we almost saw, but the execution was so poor that it's almost impossible to enjoy them. It's not the issues they brought up, such as depression, bad boyfriends, or even addiction that were the problem, but how they handled them compared to earlier seasons.

      Look at how they handled the deaths of Joyce or Miss Calendar compared to Tara. Both of the prior deaths carried so much more meaning and emotion for the characters. The ending also lacks originality. We just saw Willow go off for revenge after Tara was hurt at the end of last season, and we saw Giles do the same when Miss Calendar died before that. The "dead lesbian/evil lesbian (saved by the good man)" ending has been done dozens of time in other books and movies, with Alyson Hannigan not only playing that ending in Buffy that year, but she also played that in the movie Rip It Off just before that. And of course, Willow has to destroy the world; we're not quite sure how that comes out of her character, but Buffy villains do that so she has to do that too. Why couldn't they have done something remotely original?

  2. Slain by Scoria · · Score: 5, Funny

    'I'm simply too tired.'

    Yes, seasons six and seven are certainly evidence that somebody was "asleep at the wheel." In fact, they were quite reminiscient of an enormous vehicular accident...

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  3. the real reason Buffy is departing..... by PS-SCUD · · Score: 5, Funny

    She wants to devote full time to being a pr0n star? *looks hopefull*

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    1. Re:the real reason Buffy is departing..... by dghcasp · · Score: 4, Funny
      Buffy the Vampire Layer?

      It's not like it'd be so far off where the show is now...

      Buffy: I'm going out to hunt vampires. I need a big stake.

      Dawn: Don't let Spike rape you again!

      Willow: Oh, and while you're gone, I'm going to have a lesbian tryst!

      Faith: Ever notice how slaying makes you hungry and horny?

      Anya: Everyone's having sex but me! I need to get laid!

      Wait a minute... Did I just think that, or did I post it to slashdot? D'oh!

  4. Dawn the Vampire Slayer by Scoria · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dawn the Vampire Slayer

    Witness vampires and miscellaneous other creatures of the night defeated as Dawn petulantly screams. For instance: "Get out, get out, get out!"

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    1. Re:Dawn the Vampire Slayer by outsider007 · · Score: 2, Funny

      even worse with the hellmouth being closed, imagine the big bad they would come up with for season 8.
      the war on drugs?
      global warming?
      the sad thing is that I'd still be watching.

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  5. Firefly by Ignorant+Aardvark · · Score: 4, Informative

    Perhaps Buffy was getting tired, but Firefly was just starting to shine! I hope Joss Whedon doesn't mean that he was tired in general, just tired in regards to BTVS. I'm still hopeful that Firefly will make a comeback someday. In any event, two of its actors have played villains on Joss Whedon's other shows, Angel and BTVS. I thought that was nice of him, helping the actors of his cancelled show by giving them parts on his still-running shows.

    1. Re:Firefly by satanami69 · · Score: 3, Informative

      "two of its actors have played villains on Joss Whedon's other shows"

      I also saw that Gina Torress, from Firefly, was in the Matrix Reloaded. It creeped me out because she's in every one of my favorite shows that gets canceled. I felt a bad vibe about the Matrix, but was delighted to see her.

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    2. Re:Firefly by Ignorant+Aardvark · · Score: 2, Funny

      And Morena Baccharin is sexy in that exotic Asian kind of way. Maybe that, or it's because she played a whore. Mmmmm ... Morena ...

      And yeah, Gina Torres is the sexy woman who played Jasime, the Devourer (a decidedly un-nasty, disgusting freak of a beast in Angel).

      Let's not forget Jewel Staite ... her character Kaylee was sexy in that innocent, home-girl kind of way, though it was revealed in one of the episodes how she got her position as mechanic wasn't exactly innocent! (Screwing the previous mechanic). That one was a real shocker. Man, I loved that show.

      Ohh yeah, and there's Summer Glau, sexy in that psycho-freak kinda way. Especially the girl-in-the-box part, where she's naked ... yeah that's really cool.

      And I'm not homosexual, but if I were, I would definitely be all over that Nathan Fillion! Mmmmm! (That one was for the girls)

  6. Father O'day -- Give us a break by Squidgee · · Score: 5, Funny
    Since this article contains an Apple refrence (Which, btw, I've had good luck with Apple's repair services, even though my iBook had to go out of the country), inevitably we'll have to see the Father O'day troll. So, in order to route this, and give the mods the power to mod down based upon "redundant" (Muhahaha), here we go:

    I'm gay. Blah blah blah.
    --Some Priest

    Good for you!
    --Mister Apple-Impersonator.

    And there ya have it! Go back under the bridge trolls.

  7. This should silence Iraqi reconstruction critics by George+Walker+Bush · · Score: 4, Funny

    Guess what -- our beloved USA-homegrown CDMA didn't win out in Iraq after all. So you all can take your allegations of US self-bias and shove it.

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  8. The real reason they quit by Qinopio · · Score: 5, Funny

    They tried to use illusions on Trogdor, but he burninated [spoilers] them all!

    ANDREW: Illusions? Against a burninator? (chuckles)

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  9. GSM is NOT the future... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...so why is it such a great thing that MCI is building it in Iraq?

    Eventually all carriers will have to move from whatever they're using to either WCDMA or cdma2000. The transition to WCDMA is not simple, and there are doubts that WCDMA will deliver on its promised performance. On the other hand, cdma2000 is much simpler to adopt, and has been proven to work (in Korea, for example.)

    GSM is dead. R.I.P.

    1. Re:GSM is NOT the future... by Zebbers · · Score: 3, Insightful

      yea, sure. gsm is dead. yup. go build your own wcdma or cdma2000 network. go ahead. gsm is the standard, like it or not. there will be little consumer pressure for cmda as opposed to gsm. everyone wants gsm because its been the standard in europe/world and will now be the standard in the us as well.

      being technically superior does not automagically grant you standard status. christ, by youre logic one should never deploy anything because there is always something almost ready thats almost better.

    2. Re:GSM is NOT the future... by turbod · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Read some radio manuals, and get back to us.

      Just because GSM is mandated to exist in most parts of the world does not mean it is either superior or will be in existance forever (or maybe it can if you want 2.5G forever).

      All future 3g standards are based on CDMA (UTMS,WCDMA, CDMA2K, etc.), if not direct decendents. Qualcomm owns most if not all patents on those technologies. Not only that, but a terrain as sparse as Iraq, should not use GSM, but CDMA.

      I live in the countryside of North Carolina, and I can tell you all about the GSM vs. CDMA arguments in living color. GSM blows in large geographical expanses with sparse populations. The companies don't want to provide the coverage that GSM requires (GSM requires dense repeater coverage), while CDMA requires many fewer towers for the same area. GSM isn't even an option, and those fancy AT&T phones are only worth their solder and discrete components to any outside-of-the-city dweller. Sprint PCS phones however, have full net capabilities, text paging, and digital clarity in the middle of nowhere.

      Now, MCI can backdate Iraq and put them on GSM if they want, but the truth of the matter is, the Iraqi people are getting ripped off. MCI is simply going to dump their GSM equipment they wanted to sell in the US market, on the Iraqis who currently have no choice. But its not the best network for Iraq. In fact, it sucks. It sucks so bad, I guarantee the venture will be basic failure except in the largest of cities in Iraq with the most income and highest population densities. The rest of Iraq will be left phoneless.

      TurboD

    3. Re:GSM is NOT the future... by shaggie · · Score: 2, Insightful

      GSM is far from dead. Maybe in the US, its dead, but then in most parts of the world its quite alive.

      Its all a matter of numbers. Asia and Europe have a much higher subscriber based and churn rate for cell phones than the US. Some numbers as of 2002.
      GSM subscribers in China: 160 million accounts
      CDMA subscribers in China: 500,000 accounts
      GSM subscribers in Indonesia: 9 million accounts
      CDMA subscribers in Indonesia: 50,000 accounts

      Given that with the exception of Japan and Korea the other countries in Asia are all using GSM, I really highly doubt GSM is gonna bite the dust. Pretty sure the user ratios situation is similar in Europe

      BTW the rate at which people buy new cell phones in Asia is quite close to Moore's Law. Most white-collared types in Asia get a new phone every 6-8 months.

      When i lived in NYC and Boston, I never saw the kind of cell phone churn rates nor ever saw evidence that cell phone usage is as pervalent as in Europe or Asia. Highly doubt any country comes close to China's 160 million GSM subscriber accounts.

      Far as I understand UTMS is a descendant or an evolution of GSM. When it comes to business, it all comes down to numbers, not which technology is better, how many units you can sell. Windows, VHS are just 2 examples of sub-par tech winning over due to sheer volume of sales alone.

      Pretty sure the US will be dominated by CDMA as for the rest of the world I'm hedging my bets on UTMS

  10. GSM/GPRS by yet+another+coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How much sooner than the United States will Iraq get a GSM/GPRS network? AT&T, T-Mobile and Cingular are taking their time. Maybe the Iraqi people will get affordable data plans, too.

  11. The sad thing about the geek kid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Is that so many other geeks find him pitiful. If his self-esteem wasn't low already...

    1. Re:The sad thing about the geek kid by cjackson0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I consider myself somewhat an average geek and don't find him pitiful. Who hasn't grabbed a stick and pretended they were Darth Maul or any other Jedi badass? I laugh when I saw this because I was laughing at myself. I could have done the exact same thing and looked just as stupid. If it weren't for some kid at school who found the tape and posted it online this would be just another idiotic teenage fantasy that we've all lived in some form or another. I think the kid should be proud that he is now world renown and maybe gave a little chuckle to a bunch of nerds JUST LIKE HIM.

    2. Re:The sad thing about the geek kid by fsmunoz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Not only that, the kid that stole the video is the one to pity; being a snitch and abusing the confidence of friends just to gain a few laughs and popularity is one of the worst personality traits one can have.

    3. Re:The sad thing about the geek kid by Steve+Christ · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Of course you were King Cool from the day you were born and never ever sang into a hairbrush or deodorant can, played a tennis racket or baseball bat or practised dance steps alone - no doubt looking fooolish in all three cases.

      You're either self-delucsional or a liar. Either way round you've no cred with me.

      And you've not got the balls to post under your real name.

      S.

    4. Re:The sad thing about the geek kid by EmagGeek · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If it's such an undesireable trait, then why do we keep electing them to office?

  12. A good thing for GSM? by z4ce · · Score: 4, Interesting

    No,
    It's not a good thing for Iraq for GSM to be implemented. GSM is really aging. The only way to get even moderately high-speeds is using the piggy-back GPRS. Reconstructing GSM to be 3G is very difficult transition path. If it weren't for Quallcom's patents on CDMA, nobody would be using GSM which is based on TDMA.

    I really like some of the stuff GSM has done with respect to the phones themselves, such as the use SIMM card for storing the phones information. But CDMA is by far the technically superior solution, however patent incumbered. Building an infrastructure from the ground up on TDMA technology is just brain-dead politics.

    1. Re:A good thing for GSM? by GlassHeart · · Score: 4, Insightful
      If it weren't for Quallcom's patents on CDMA, nobody would be using GSM which is based on TDMA.

      This is not wholly accurate. TDMA is old, obvious, and proven technology, requiring nothing more complicated than a uniform source of timing, and is possibly less demanding on the handset hardware than CDMA. Telecommunications carriers tend to be conservative, because the upfront investments are astronomical.

      Secondly, according to Qualcomm's own information, CDMA by 1995 offered only 10x improvement (over analog cellular) of the bandwidth utilization. By contrast, TDMA offers somewhere from 3x to 8x, so the case for ripping out all your expensive network hardware is not as compelling back then.

      Today in Iraq, starting from scratch, the equation is obviously different. When GSM's time comes, however, it should be remembered as a reliable workhorse, not something that was always inferior to CDMA except for patents. GSM was the first mobile phone system that offered global roaming, a feature taken for granted today, but causing so many problems back then that several horribly expensive satellite based solutions were built.

      SIMM card

      Only one "M". It stands for "Subscriber Identity Module".

    2. Re:A good thing for GSM? by Cato · · Score: 2, Insightful

      EDGE isn't CDMA based, it's still TDMA but with better radio technology allowing more capacity in existing GSM/GPRS cells, and higher speeds.

      W-CDMA is the 'true 3G' step after GPRS/EDGE, which is CDMA based.

  13. GSM vs CDMA by jbf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yes, GSM is more widely supported than CDMA, but note that the GSM folks are having a heck of a time providing 3G support, whereas the two big CDMA providers in the states (Verizon and Sprint) have both rolled out huge 3G networks. The reason for this is that 1xRTT is a better standard for data. By contrast, DoCoMo is losing money hand over fist deploying WCDMA.

    GSM is everywhere largely because of European licensing agencies requiring GSM, and those same restrictions are built into the licenses for 3G spectrum (with UMTS). NOT because GSM is a better technology. CDMA gets better efficiency (more users per channel per cell) than GSM, especially in lightly loaded areas.

    I don't see why GSM-everywhere is so desirable. The conveinences everyone claims that GSM has (eg SIM cards) are already being standardized in cdma2000, and will be here soon. GSM is a beast from the past, pushed only by government regulations. For those who say AT&T's switch shows that GSM is the future, remember that AT&T is switching from a TDMA network that's technologically equivalent to GSM (and hence inferior to CDMA), and that AT&T is having all sorts of network problems as a result, since they have to hard-block their frequencies, effectively creating a huge fragmentation problem.

    1. Re:GSM vs CDMA by rasteri · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You're forgetting one thing (and it's possibly the most important)... implementing CDMA in Iraq would effectively kill roaming between it and nearby countries. I think that's a significant enough reason to warrant a GSM mobile network. Besides, the so called "advantages" of CDMA are useless to Iraqis (High data rates? Most people in Iraq don't even have a computer, let alone a portable one). GSM offers some unique features (such as SIM cards) which almost certainly would be useful. Just because a technology is technically better in the US doesn't neccesarily mean it's well suited for a completely different country.

    2. Re:GSM vs CDMA by Inoshiro · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "The conveinences everyone claims that GSM has (eg SIM cards) are already being standardized in cdma2000, and will be here soon. "

      Yea, because consumers have always waited for the perfect technology, rather than adopting a marginally worse technology that exists today.

      Oh, wait, VHS was before Betamax and was worse. Oh, wait, the PC was before the Macintosh and had less usability. Oh, wait ..

      I can go on and on. If CDMA was truly better enough today, it would've been standardized in every aspect like GSM, and we wouldn't even know about GSM because of it.

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    3. Re:GSM vs CDMA by Oscar_Wilde · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'll try to keep this brief.

      Even if CDMA is technically a better system its still not the one in use by the majority of the worlds population.

      And while you might get better data rates using CDMA but GSM users still get all the cool phones to make use of it. Well ok, not all of the cool phones are GSM but if you've even been to Japan, Europe, Australia, etc you'd have to have seen the equipment everyone was using.

      My family in the US think its odd that everyone in my family here (in Oz) has a mobile phone.

    4. Re:GSM vs CDMA by Cato · · Score: 2, Insightful

      GSM has something like 80% market share world-wide, and is heavily used in the Middle East as well as Africa, Europe, Asia and has some market share in North and South America. So the real reason it's desirable is that it's the standard, just like VHS, not that it has the best possible technology. CDMA2000 should be compared with W-CDMA, where it looks like the former is much more mature and currently deployable.

  14. Where can I get one? by Tyrdium · · Score: 2, Funny

    I didn't mean to sound like I regretted my AiBook purchase in the last post, and now I even happier Sweet! Can't wait to get my hands on one... Wonder how much they are...

  15. I think I'll release... by MoThugz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    a video of myself doing some Neo-esque bullet-dodging kunf-fu moves... maybe I'll get an iPod too.

    All joking aside, from the interview, Ghyslain (the starwars kid) acted quite mature for someone his age... aware that his not-meant-for-public-viewing is now world famous he chose not to be bitter or overly proud of this. He seems to just let it pass as a page in his life story.

    Anyway, he did make me laugh, and what a way to start what is anticipated to be a loooong busy day.

    Thanks Ghyslain!

    1. Re:I think I'll release... by tbmaddux · · Score: 5, Interesting
      He seems to just let it pass as a page in his life story.
      Exactly. He's got much more embarassing/humiliating things to go through when he gets shoved into a cubicle. For now, his reaction was much the same as Ellen Feiss: "Oh, whatever, I think it's kind of funny. These people don't have lives..." They're kids. The fact that they get this flash-in-the-pan fame says more about us than them.
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    2. Re:I think I'll release... by DocDendrite · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What amazes me is how much commentary this video contains about adolescent life.

      The remixed version is hilarious (as pointed out ad naseum) but take a look at the unedited cut. The last few frames are from the next event recorded on the tape - the school basketball game. Those players completely dwarf the Star Wars Kid.

      Juxtaposed with this geeky boy pretending to be a fearsome martial arts master says a lot about what life is like in highschool. If you're not the fastest, strongest, most athletic than what could you have to offer the community? The basketball game was carefully recorded - it's supposed to be seen again. With that to compete with how can anyone be surprised at this boy's fantasy? It's just a reminder of what a strange set of priorities society emphasizes to it's youth.

      Now this is quite an extrapolation on my part but I think a just one - and all this was serendipitously caught on tape! I, for one, am glad the Star Wars Kid will be walking away from the experience with more than a little coin for his anguish.

      -DD

  16. Star Wars Kid by R33MSpec · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Come on guys, pitch in and buy this kid an iPod and other stuff for his efforts! What a star!

    1. Re:Star Wars Kid by agrippa_cash · · Score: 2, Funny

      I really think thats what he was angling for. Either that or a whole mac system. Not that I can blame him. If I had to be embarrassed like that I'd try to cash in too. Maybe a Fox reality special= Ghyslain: CONFIDENTIAL!

  17. Completely detached.... by tcc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Am I the only one who was completely detached of that last buffy episode? well actually from the last 2 seasons? She could have died and I don't think it would have cared less... I was almost worried that she would die and Faith replace her for another stagnating 5 seasons....

    I'm sure I am not the only one who was continuing to watch it because he "invested time into watching the 5 previous seasons that were really cool and I need to know how it will all end"... the ending of season 5 when she closes the portal by jumping into it was like...at least 10x better than yesterday's serie ending.... Its a good thing that this show finally ends eventho I was a big fan the 5 first seasons. When I see shows like family guy, B5 crusade and firefly being cancelled and see crap like this season's of buffy still on, it makes me wonder.

    Now I just hope the Angel show doesn't go the same way.

    One show that I really enjoyed this year was John Doe, is there a second season of this? this is probably one of the good findings this year, new actors good story, just enough "fiction" to keep it "real", I like the balance and the general concept.

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    1. Re:Completely detached.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh christ you can't be serious. John Doe??! That is the most god-awful bastardization of a science fiction show ever conceived by the likes of man. I'd rather watch CleoPatra 2525 with thumbscrews attached to my genetalia tightened every time a bare midriff is shown. John Doe. Even the thought of it makes me want to retch. I don't know where to start: bad acting, ridiculous plots, laughable science, dues ex machina, I could go on. I was absolutely astounded when FireFly got cancelled and the absolute mind-raping garbage that is John Doe stayed on the air.

    2. Re:Completely detached.... by cvas · · Score: 2, Informative

      Then I guess you'll be happy to know that John Doe was not picked up for a second season.

    3. Re: Completely detached.... by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2, Insightful


      > I was absolutely astounded when FireFly got cancelled and the absolute mind-raping garbage that is John Doe stayed on the air.

      But at least it gives you some insight into why the RIAA is publishing what it does these days.

      For some, Sturgeon's Law isn't an observation, it's a marketing plan. Crap draws bigger audiences than stuff that challenges people.

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      Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
  18. DirecTV security through obscurity? by Samir+Gupta · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If their encryption algorithm is really so secure and uncompromisable as they claim, they should have no qualms about letting the details out in public (where they could be presumably subject to peer review), just as is standard practice with other crypto algorithms and the crypto community.

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    1. Re:DirecTV security through obscurity? by shird · · Score: 4, Informative

      In theory. However, similar to DVDs, the decoder needs to be able to decode the signal. This means there must be a 'key' (be it an RSA key, secret algorithm, or whatever) in the device somewhere. Basically they are trying to achieve client-side security, which is just a myth. The only way to partially achieve this is to hide the key in silicon and hope the attackers don't find it, and when/if they do, change it. So as far as security is concerned, DirecTV is relying on secrecy - which is the only security possible in their situation. So it is fair enough they wouldnt want the details out in public.

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  19. Relevency of Buffy by SamMichaels · · Score: 3, Funny

    Since the last posting about Buffy, I've had to look no further than my own computer area to figure out how it's relevent to Slashdot.

    Doesn't every nerd have a huge poster of Sarah Michelle Gellar next to their Matrix poster? :)

    1. Re:Relevency of Buffy by ncc74656 · · Score: 2, Funny
      Doesn't every nerd have a huge poster of Sarah Michelle Gellar next to their Matrix poster? :)

      I don't think so...

      I bet you're still living in your parents' cellar
      Downloading pictures of Sarah Michelle Gellar
      Posting "me too" like some brain-dead AOLer
      I should do the world a favor and cap you like Old Yeller
      You're about as useless as JPEGs to Helen Keller

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  20. Will Joss Slay Again? by fm6 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I'm forced to agree. Except that Whedon's basic problem isn't fatigue -- that's just a symptom. It's that he keeps overreaching himself.

    Consider the "First Evil" arc. They started that one over four years ago!!! Yeah, I know we you like the way he plants clues and goes for a slow buildup. So do I. But that buildup looks like the workers were drunk and AWOL half the time!

    The whole series is full of stuff like that. My favorite villain in all of genre fiction is Glorificus, The Fashion Queen from Another Dimension. But I was only able to enjoy her arc by nodding at the plot inconsistencies you could drive a truck through. A willing fan can do that for a while (hence Star Trek), but Buffy fans have less patience.

    I think if Joss Whedon is going to remain a major player (and I do hope he manages to revive Firefly) he's gonna have to rethink his working style. TV and movies are collaborative media, yet he insists that all the big insights be his and his alone. That prevents people from hijacking his vehicles (as happened with the Buffy movie) but also prevents people from telling him when his clothes are no invisible, but missing. No wonder Buffy got so far off track.

    1. Re:Will Joss Slay Again? by jeffasselin · · Score: 2, Insightful
      he's gonna have to rethink his working style. TV and movies are collaborative media, yet he insists that all the big insights be his and his alone.

      I disagree. The best TV series ever (Babylon 5) was mostly a gigantic effort from one man: JMS. He had collaborators, just like Joss has, but the bulk of the work was his, and it showed. I say power to Joss all the way.

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    2. Re:Will Joss Slay Again? by spoco2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      yet he insists that all the big insights be his and his alone

      Yet in the Article, he states:

      "It would have been impossible for me to predict where Buffy's character would go by the end of the series because the character is informed by so many things. You have to find out what people respond to, you have to find out what works on the show, what aspects make sense, what your meaning is. "

      So, that would seem to suggest that there's a fairly substantial feedback loop going on there between himself, the viewers and others...

      I don't think he goes it entirely alone... And for the most part the real issues with the last couple of seasons have been with the actual dialogue or more specfic things with episodes, which come about from the actual writer of the script, and Joss doesn't seem to have written many of the later episodes at all.

      Having said that the final season (I don't know what episode you're up to in the states, but we're only part way through in Aus) has been by and large painful to watch... It's really being that bad. I've been watching the last season of Angel, as I had stopped watching that, and I'm finding it FAR more enjoyable than the current Buffy.

    3. Re:Will Joss Slay Again? by I+Want+GNU! · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, so who would he listen to? Firefly was on Fox so perhaps he'd listen to those network execs? The ones who cancelled Futurama, Family Guy, Firefly, and every other great show that started with an F? No, you see, his efforts are great because they are his. Neal Stephenson works like that too. You didn't see Shakespeare or Van Gogh making their art in ways that marketers wanted to.

      Didn't you learn anything from Dilbert? The lesson is that marketing departments suck.

    4. Re:Will Joss Slay Again? by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, the B5 effort was hijacked by all sorts of external effects- unpredictable actor availability (3 main characters left unexpectedly) and an uncertain number of seasons.

      Yes, Straczynski planned for 5 seasons originally- but towards the end of season 4, it really looked like #5 wouldn't get made (the current network was dropping it, and no one was found to take it up until the last minute)

      So, he squeezed many of the concluding events into the 4th season, in case it turned out to be the final one. That's why the main villians were all vanquished in the 4th season, and the 5th opened up with discovery of new (servitor) monsters that had been hidden under rocks up till then.

      So, it's really understandable that the 5th season seemed lacking- it's best parts were squeezed into earlier episodes.

  21. time travel? divination? by Transient0 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Slashback tonight brings you updates on the future

    That's a pretty good trick... care to tell me how you do it?

    1. Re:time travel? divination? by mgblst · · Score: 2, Funny

      Simple, when they dupe one of these items, they will simply clame that the first was merely an edition from the future. Quite clever really. Whoever did this has real management potential!

  22. Star Wars kid... by MoronGames · · Score: 2

    It's amazing how much transfer that stupid video has used up. I wonder what being slashdotted will do to it... I can't believe there's been $3,519 in donations to buy that kid stuff! Amazing! I'm gonna go do something stupid and film it so people will buy me stuff! For the record, I'd like a shiny new power mac with dual processors and one of those huge screens.

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  23. Interview by The+Bungi · · Score: 3, Funny

    Perhaps Slashdot should do an interview with the Star Wars kid. To further the emotional scarring =)

  24. Cowboyneal? by moosesocks · · Score: 3, Funny

    Bah. We all know that Lucas is going to surprise us in the next SW film with a 15-minute lightsaber sequence featuring Cowboyneal.

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  25. So long, Buffster. Thanks for all the writing. by Sans_A_Cause · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It was pretty clear, even during the last episode in, admittedly, one of the weaker story arcs why this show has such a devoted following: the writing is incredible. Thanks to Joss and everybody involved for creating characters, plots, and dialog that were immensely entertaining (the D&D scene alone had me laughing hysterically). I'm going to miss this show and these characters. Why can't shows with potential like, say, Enterprise figure out the tricks Buffy managed to pull year after year? Note to Paramount: maybe you have to start caring about the writing again to bring a borefest like Trek back to life. Notice that no one on Buffy wore catsuits.

  26. Don't forget to donate his iPod by rekrutacja · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Here is an exact link: http://www.jish.nu/2003_05_01_archive.php#20028747 3 I would really love, if we will manage to buy him not only iPod, but also a Mac he desire.

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  27. CDMA sucks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Crappy codec that sounds no where near as good as EFR on GSM. Crappy phones with short battery life. Wot ? No bluetooth ? Most have no infrared even.

    These phones are lightyears behind GSM phones.

    Also, saying that the US is "CDMA territory" is simply wrong. Cingular, AT&T and T-Mobile (VoiceStream) are 3 of the top providers in the US, Sprint and Verizon being the other two.

    Hate to break it to the CDMA biggots here, but there are more GSM subscribers in the US than CDMA.

    I've used both over many years, and gravitate back to GSM for better sound, SMS that works and yup, the all important international roaming.

    CDMA is technically better, especially in remote areas, but GSM is the way to go.

    CDMA is simply a bad case of NIH.

  28. Re:"Self-Bias" is appropriate in this case. by Soulfarmer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Your choice for subject to that reply is also appropriate. Who went in and started that war in the first place? Of course you need to take full advantage of being in there, no question about it.

    BUT, what if Saddam just would have stepped down, and let the so called democracy pour in, would US companies still have first say about re-building the country? Is that bias based solely on war-efforts? In this case, war efforts seem to make US tech bit more better by effect than european.

    And the moneywise situation? US is not going to benefit hugely from Iraqi oil when it is effectively controlling the whole place, whose money is that?

    Bit off the topic, but nice to change opinions about it anyhow.

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  29. Re:"Self-Bias" is appropriate in this case. by JWW · · Score: 2, Funny

    Like maybe to France's Alcatel?

    I sure hope none of the money goes to Alcatel! Not because they're a French company, but because their stuff is crap.

  30. Best Willow quip of the night by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Willow:

    "...I could lose control. And I don't mean like 'my girl-friend's got a tongue-ring losing control'"

    Dawn, a few minutes later:

    "OH! Tongue-ring..."

    :-) Why couldn't Xander's dream have included the tongue-ring, Kennedy, Willow, AND Dawn?! Now THAT would have been a series climax!

  31. Anyone notice reference to Trogdor in Buffy? by Rheingold · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Did anyone notice the reference to Trogdor the Burninator in Buffy? It was rad!

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  32. Re:A Bad ending to a bad show, however... by fluxrad · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Look at Andrew talking about Faith attacking the Vulcanologist, or Buffy's funny bad joke about Caleb splitting. It's all still there.


    Yes, and the show gets -10 points for reusing an old Running Man one-liner. But don't worry, I'll get a -1 for talking smack about Buffy on /.

    The problem with the show as a "drama" is that it completely loses credibility with the amount of trite humor written in to each script. Drama, without a doubt, needs humor. A perfect example is the doorman in MacBeth, or Dogbury in Much Ado About Nothing. If you want to watch absolute mastery of this in modern times, look no further than Aaron Sorkin (West Wing) or most of the writing on Star Trek: TNG which, incedentally, is why that was considered the last great Star Trek series. But this show had too much of it. If it was a drama, then it had too much comedy for the actual dramatic aspects of the script to effectively come through. If it was a comedy, then it had too much drama to be substantially funy enough to make the grade.

    I see three things that prevent Buffy from being anything more than another shite WB/UPN series, First and foremost is the acting. As much as I try to look past the teenage angst-ridden script, all I see is B-grade actors who are most likely never going to make it to an actual network TV show (not WB or UPN). Granted, much of the dialogue prohibits full realization of their acting skills, but you can't blame everything on the script. The fact of the matter is that I can't relate to anyone on the show.

    Secondly, the show is convoluted. The movie, AFAIC, was a piece of art. It poked fun at the trashy valley-girl stigma attached to so-cal in the early 90's while at the same time bringing a fresh horror-spoof to the whole thing. I just wish I could have been in the pitch room for that one. The problem is that doesn't translate well to TV. The concept was obviously meant for the big screen as, once the vampires are removed from Sunnydale, the gimmick is over. The writers of the show, in order to keep people from fleeing like they were at a Great White concert, had to come up with some new and more enveloping angle with each passing season, which created a two-fold problem. 1 - everyone has to watch at least five or six episodes in a row before they "get" the plot (at least, this is what I have been told repeatedly). And 2 - it gets trite. Once the novelty of vampires wears off, you have to switch to witches, demons, godesses, and everything else your mother warned you about. That, my friend, is the mark of a show that didn't have a decent premise to begin with.

    Lastly, the writing is just terrible. Everything the actors say seems to be geared toward impressing high-school students or allowing introverts to live vicariously through the show. As I said before, a perfect example is the "cookie dough" scene I sat impatiently through in the final episode. That had no place in a pre-armageddon spectacular complete with uber-demons and the death of cast regulars. I honestly don't think the writers of this show have ever given any thought to how real people would act in any of these situations. And I for one don't particularly care to watch drama that has no grounding in reality. It becomes corny and contrived which is, after all, what I feel this show was from the get go.

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  33. Puffy the Vampire Slayer by Erebus · · Score: 2, Funny

    That girl can stretch a t-shirt like nobody's bidness...

  34. Re:DirecTV's security blunder by E-Rock · · Score: 2, Interesting

    INAL, but I have been involved in court cases. You don't go out of your way to make life easy on the opposition. In fact you go out of your way (within legal limits) to make like difficult for them. Drowning your opponent in paper is the most fun response to a fishing, I mean discovery, request that there is. Often there will be damning information down in there, but they never bother to actually go thru it all to find it.

  35. BTVS Finale: Reader's Digest Version by dghcasp · · Score: 5, Funny
    Angel to Buffy: Here's a magic amulet. The writers didn't bother to come up with a backstory for it. And now that I've spoken, union rules say I have to be paid for the whole episode. (Angel Leaves.)

    Buffy to Spike: Here's a magic amulet. Let's shag.

    Buffy to Willow: I need a spell.
    Willow: I'm scared.
    Buffy: Don't worry. The writers didn't bother to look up the latin. All you have to do is sit and look constipated.
    Willow: I can do that; I had bran today!

    Wood to Faith: I'm better looking than you, skank.

    Andrew: I'm a geek. Wheeeee!

    (Inside the Hellmouth)

    Kennedy: Look at all the vampires.
    Buffy: Don't worry. Willow's spell made you all slayers.
    Kennedy: Why didn't we do this in episode 3 this season? Then we could have had time for some good episodes.
    Buffy: Shut up ho, and kill uber-vamps.

    Kennedy: Hey, how come one of these uber-vamps kicked Buffy's arse six ways to sunday for two episodes, yet now we're killing thousands of them.
    Faith. Shut up and kill uber-vamps.

    The First: Neener neener neener
    Buffy: Beat it, bitch.

    Spike: Woo hoo, me necklace is killing all the uber-vamps.
    Kennedy: Shame angel couldn't have brought it in episode 3, then we could have...
    Spike: stuff it, wanker.

    Anya: Hey, how come I have to be the only one to die?

    (Above ground)

    Dawn: Hey look, the whole town's gone, fallen into a pit.
    Cordelia: I always said Sunnydale was a pit.
    Xander: Beat it, slut, you're not in this show anymore.
    Cordelia: oops.

    Willow: So, what do we do now?
    Buffy: fuckifiknow.

    (Fade to black)

    1. Re:BTVS Finale: Reader's Digest Version by wayward_son · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You forgot a scene:

      Xander: Where's Anya?
      Andrew: She's dead.
      Xander: Oh, just wanted to know.

      Am I the only one bothered by the fact that no one, not even Xander seems to care that Anya's dead?

      He was a lot more upset about the death of Tara, Joyce, and even Jenny Calendar that he was about Anya. He barely showed any reaction to Anya's death.

  36. Re:"Self-Bias" is appropriate in this case. by catsidhe · · Score: 2, Insightful
    You are under the hugely erroneous opinion that the US will only rebuild what they destroyed. If so, there wouldn't be much money to spend.
    The US will rebuild what it needs to, and not one brick more. Even when it is building schools and hospitals, I think it is more because of the PR than because of any inherant philanthropic impulse. (How is Afghanistan doing these days?)

    You are also under the impression that we destroyed the entire country. Even pro Iraq sources don't/didn't even state that.
    The Ministry of Oil is intact. The Museum is not. Even where bombs were not dropped, there are consequences when you invade a country. These are well known. Looting and riots are high up the list. Was no planning done here? ...oh, hang on. Some planning was done, but it was only for 'worthy' targets. Like Oil. (When it comes to the looting of the Museum, which was witnessed by US soldiers who did nothing, the US command can claim only malice, apathy or incompetance.)

    The US intends to rebuild their entire country, even if that is defined only to the point of stability and good oil capacity, that is far beyond what Iraq had for decades.
    The US said the same about Afghanistan. I repeat: how are they doing these days? And for the record: Saudi Arabia is stable and has good oil output. If you think that is a good thing, try living under the Sauds. Stability and oil -- feh! What about hospitals? What about classrooms? What about restoring power and water supplies?
    And also for the record, Iraq has been a haven for education and civilisation for a thousand years. The Iraqi people are still, by-and-large, intelligent, educated, cultured and cosmopolitan. Where is maintaining that tradition in the list of what-must-be-done? Because without it you have just another fundamentalist theocracy. Without careful and thoughtful help right now that still could happen, as the mullahs and imams make their claims to the rights to secular power.

    Your sincerity in having an open mind, taking in multiple credible sources, and independent thinking is NOT reflected in your post. Do better next time. I'm not saying the US are angels, but you're anti-hype is approaching the absurd.
    He was making a reductio ad absurdum argument, by taking an argument and applying it with the same force but the opposite intent. This is a useful technique. It can be used to highlight all sorts of internalised bias. e.g., "The US was justified in invading Vietnam in order to protect it from itself" vs. "Vietnam would be justified in invading the US in order to protect it from itself". See how it works? Try it yourself on what comes out of Fox News sometime.

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  37. Firefly! Firefly! Firefly! by fm6 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    From what I've heard, Whedon is trying very, very hard to revive Firefly in some form. Most people in his position would have given up by now. I think this particular show is very important to him.

    Possibly he thinks he could have saved the series if he hadn't been so overcommitted (three active series, and development work on two more). Probably not true: I think a lot of Fox people either didn't understand Firefly or just didn't think such a high-budget series could be profitable. (Reality shows are so much cheaper to produce!) Still, it would have had a better chance if Whedon had been able to fight the network's creative meddling and idiotic scheduling.

    I once read an interview with him, where's he's standing on the bridge of Serenity (the set is a complete mockup of the ship) and proclaiming that he's in "Geek Heaven". Ever since Fox pulled the series, I've been watching the news for reports that the set has been broken up. Unless I missed that report, he's keeping that set around, which must be costing him a mint. If he gives up and gets rid of the set, then we'll know that Firefly is dead, no mouth-to-mouth, no resurrection spell!

  38. Can't agree by Dusabre · · Score: 4, Insightful

    GSM is cheap because its old. Cheap GSM stations and cheap GSM phones. I might be able to pay $1000 for a PDA CDMA phone but an Iraqi might only have $50 for his basic GSM (I'm sure he'd love to have the phone I threw away 4 years ago because it was getting tacky)

    GSM is implemented throughout the Middle East - allowing roaming and phone exports/transfers over the border.

    GSM is well known to technicians.

    GSM works well in environments like Iraq. You might live in some isolated part of the huge US of A where GSM sucks but Iraq is an urban and concentrated country. Most people live near the cities or the river valleys.

    GSM does not suck. It allows clear voice transmissions and gives an acceptable data transfer rate (not for internet browsing but for email okay).

    Iraq does not need an expensive data network with bells on it. It needs one that works. And GSM works excellently - as Europe can testify.

    GSM is not the future. But its the working present.

  39. Quit yer whinin' by EmagGeek · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ok, so MCI gets to build a GSM network in Iraq. Get over it - the reason that Sprint isn't doing it is because a) CDMA sucks monkey member and b) the US is more or less the only country on the planet that does NOT use GSM. It wouldn't make any sense to drop a CDMA network in Iraq when all of the surrounding countries use GSM. Also, there is already a lot of equipment for GSM in Iraq that can be reused (of course MCI will probably bill for new equipment even though they use the old stuff).

    The U.S. has a horrible track record of going with non-standards in order to try to lock out foreign competition - or at least make them build a different widget just to sell in the U.S.

    Here are some examples:

    U.S - TV uses NTSC, the rest of the world uses PAL, so TV and VCR makers have to make a completely different product to sell here.

    U.S. - HDTV over the air uses 8VSB (because of political lobbying), an inferior modulation method to COFDM, which the rest of the world uses because of its technical merit.

    U.S. - uses the English system of measure whereas the rest of the world uses the more intuitive metric system

    U.S. - drives on the wrong damn side of the road

    I'm sure there are hundreds, if not thousands of other examples..

    What I'd like to know is - how the *F* did the U.S. make such a logical and sound conclusion as to what network to use in Iraq?

  40. Oh BS MAN! by SerpentMage · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Do you actually read the news?

    The US taxpayer is not footing the bill!

    1) Iraq has a mountain of debt to pay because as a result of the end of the war everyone is coming in with their bills. INCLUDING the US.

    2) The money laid out now by the US is coming back from oil revenue.

    3) The GSM standard is not just a French standard, but a worldwide standard. CDMA could have been a worldwide standard, but Qualcomm has its head stuck up its butt.

    Do you want to know what the main concern now is? That Iraq will be crushed under their debt. They did some stats and found out that when Iraq is pumping oil at its peak, that will only account for 20 billion dollars. That is not even close to being enough money to pay back everybody. And the concern is that it could turn into a world war 1 fiasco.

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    1. Re:Oh BS MAN! by hymie3 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I wrote: Of the western countries (excluding the US),
      You wrote: Misleading nonsense. The major claimant is Kuwait, which

      The last time I checked, Suadia Arabia and Kuwait were not generally considered to be western countries.

      You again: If you calculate out the Kuwaiti and Saudi claims, the remaining debt becomes quite manageable.

      I agree. It *is* quite managable to a country with the resources of Iraq. Which is why I think that the US's push to cancel the 7 billion in debt Iraq it owes to Russia (and a similar figure to France) to be more of a slap against the interests who were against the US deposing Sadaam than it is of a financial boost to Iraq.

      Seven billion US dollars is nothing to the US, and not that big of a deal to France (less than one percent of their annual revenues), but to Russia, who only brings in $46billion a year, seven billion is a lot of money. Talk about the US twisting the knife.

  41. Re:"Self-Bias" is appropriate in this case. by SubtleNuance · · Score: 2, Informative

    The reconstruction, like most of the war, is being paid for primarily out of the pockets of the US taxpayers. That's mostly coming from US workers.
    You do know that the puppet-iraq gov is going to hand over untold numbers of oil contracts to american firms eh? this is the real prize here... how many years of pumping cash out of the desert is going to goto the US-Oil now that you've invaded and occupy Iraq?

    The present bickering about 'reconstruction contracts' is missing the really big show. Thats going to be many many many billions in oil plunder.

  42. 16 is legal!!!!! by screwthemoderators · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Goddamit 16 better stay the age of consent. After all, if the girl can drive a car... Also, who needs to re-live the realities of menial jobs and real life disillusionment? Its TV- Its suppose to be fantasy and escape- Morality and Social commentary should be given in small, digestible portions The last thing America needs is a show preaching self-righteously to the great unwashed masses. Give me clever, irreverent humor any day- after all, the show was born out of a simple joke- a horror movie genre with a 'slayer' named 'Buffy?' ;]

  43. Flamebait?! by uradu · · Score: 2, Informative

    Don't anyone get blinded by the facts now. After some quick googling, pages such as this will easily be found:

    http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/gulf.war/facts/gu lfwar

    Check at the bottom, under "The Cost". While Kuwait and Saudi Arabia paid the lion's share, I just listed France and Germany (plus Japan) because they're the ones being daemonized by the US, even though they contributed more financially to the first Gulf War than the US.

  44. Re:"Self-Bias" is appropriate in this case. by catsidhe · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The museum looting story seems to have been overblown. During much of the looting of the museum, US forces were under fire from inside the museum and could not have prevented the looting without damaging the museum itself.
    Oh, really? Try
    a news service which is not American. Because no-one could accuse USAtoday or the Wall Street Journal of being partisan.

    You think that kind of infrastructure just gets restored overnight? Shit, we had a squirrel zap one of our transformers yesterday. The circuit has 100 families on it. It took the local power company 6 hours to get our power turned back on. Multiply that by a whole country...
    That infrastructure would not have needed to be rebuilt overnight if it had not been targeted in the first place. (a war crime by international convention, by the way. Not that that has ever stopped the US army.) As things like water treatment plants and power stations were deliberately targeted, all civilian deaths as a result of their lack are the direct responsiblity of the army who destroyed them.

    ... And also for the record, much of Iraq's long tradition of "civilization" has consisted of conquering and looting its neighbors.
    Unlike the UK (Ireland, India, Australia, great chunks of Africa) or the USA? (Mexico, Nicaragua, Vietnam, Panama, Grenada, Hawaii, the Phillipines, just from the top of my head, and in no particular order). Pot: meet Kettle.

    Afghanistan is probably better off today than at any time since the start of the Soviet invasion.
    Oh, really ?

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