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Wireless Wine Monitoring

Wynken de Word writes "An article in Canada's Globe and Mail says 'vineyard owner Don King is coaxing 30,000 plants to grow grapes of exactly the right colour, size and sweetness to produce great ice wine and other fine vintages...with the help of judicious watering, a knowledge of the age-old art of viniculture -- and electronic sensing devices linked together in a wireless network.' Using an Intel-based TinyOS and TinyDB, multiple sensing devices monitor grape micro climates and help determine irrigation and frost patterns."

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  1. oh YES!! by purduephotog · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As an avid wine consumer (not the french word;P) you can have no idea how happy this makes me. My cellar is currently stocked with ~130 bottles, mostly from SE Australia (Cabs) and quite a few from upstate NY where I live. Managing the microclimate to produce consistent wines is far more important than trying to hit a home run. I shy away from buying multiple cases of wine until I sample several different bottles of the same year, just on the chance that I got lucky.

    Now if I only owned a larger back yard.....

  2. Don't know by Cackmobile · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This starts wine down the mass production route where they all taste the same. The grape variety is what gives wine is distinctiveness. If you had a whole vienyard the same you couldn't have nice blends. What about for sweet wines where they have the fungus growing, botrytus (i think thats how its spelt), they would go all wrong.

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    1. Re:Don't know by HowlinMad · · Score: 5, Interesting

      While I understand your concern, I do not think this will be such a problem. There are plenty of other factors, such as soil composition (nutrients et al.), pollution, and even the amount of sunshine it gets. There may be more, or less sunny days. I think this will help in getting more quality grapes out of a crop than it will for making a grape that tastes exactly the same year to year.

      Of course, I just might be full of it.

    2. Re:Don't know by squaretorus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      INSIGHTFUL!!!!!

      The biggest driver of mass produced wine is exactly the opposite of whats happening here. Grow bad / inconsistent grapes due to bad watering / pruning and you get unreliable wine.

      What happens to unreliable wine? It gets blended with all the other unreliable wine from the region and sold as 'Californian Red' or 'Chilean Merlot'.

      This is aiming to produce a saleable quantity of consistently good wine - not mass production. This is ambitious wine making - in that he aims to produce GOOD wine - not just wine.

      I assume you dont drink a lot of the stuff!

    3. Re:Don't know by The+Fun+Guy · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, this day is a lot closer than you might think. Do a Google on "wine reverse osmosis", and you'll see what I mean. Reverese osmosis allows the vintner to selectively remove water and sugar so as to adjust the brix, acidity, and concentration of volatiles, tannins, etc. Nobody produces crappy years anymore, because even good vintages are run through a reverse osmosis machine to make them better and more consistent... more "mass produced". Every year is a good year, although some are still outstanding.

      The grape varieties are being modified with modern agronomic breeding tools, including genetic modifications, to make them better able to produce decent juice from poorer soils/sites. As with beer, the yeast strains used in wine making are being controlled with sophisticated molecular biology tools to get the mixes of micromolar end products of fermentation that make for an interesting wine. Precision agriculture has been used in high-value crops like wine grapes for many years, it's just that now it's starting to be wirelessly networked and automated.

      Only small-volume boutique wines are made by Francois/Guisseppe relying solely on the wisdom his father handed down to him from his father before him.

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    4. Re:Don't know by zakath · · Score: 4, Informative

      This 'all tastes the same' has already been identified as a problem by many wine purists. The Bordeaux flavour paradigm being copied by everyone from Oz to Chile to the US and on and on has brought on a homogenous affect to wine making. Not to mention the 'Parker effect' whereby taster/critic Robert Parker scores a wine well by his (impressive) palate and the wine immediately goes through the roof in terms of price. This has made wine makers all over the world scurrying to produce wines they hope will appeal to his taste thus enabling them to command great prices. Wine is already being mass produced everywhere - its not the quantity of grape that is so much the problem you appear to be referring to but the wine maker and the flavour he's targetting that are more of a problem for those who crave variety and maybe mor of the 'way things used to be'.

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  3. Don King.. by Blaster+Jaack · · Score: 5, Funny

    owner Don King is coaxing 30,000 plants to grow grapes of exactly the right colour, size and sweetness

    because of legal issues they had to replace the word boxers with plants

  4. Wireless wine by oniony · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I can't say I've ever known a wine with wires.

    Seriously though, as more product based (manufacturing and farming) companies turn to wireless technology the potential for disaster grows. Someone spoofing these plants' state could seriously write-off the crop. I'm counting the days until I see the first wireless industrial sabotage.

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  5. other-kind-of-wine dept.?? by Lu+Xun · · Score: 4, Funny

    And here I thought it was something to keep those pesky Windows APIs from getting all uppity.

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  6. Probably redundant by Cackmobile · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I forgot to mention that this would eliminate yearly changes. Every year would be the same. you wouldn't get the great vintages. Also how would you know that you have the best vintage possible if its always the same.

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    1. Re:Probably redundant by RealErmine · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Every year would be the same. you wouldn't get the great vintages. Also how would you know that you have the best vintage possible if its always the same.

      Couldn't a vineyard owner set up microclimate zones within his crops to produce a wide range of specific flavored grapes? Then it would only be a matter of picking specific flavors from the crop either for a homogenous wine made of grapes from a single zone, or a blended wine which incorporates the flavor of multiple Flavor Zones(TM). The experimentation could lead to a better wine for each vintage instead of a semi-random distribution of great vintages.

      I can also see how this would allow smaller vineyard owners the opportunity to produce more than one or two types of wine since the management of microclimates would ensure better crop yields in smaller areas.

      It's up to the vineyard owner how (s)he wants to experiment with the microclimates in order to produce grapes/wine. The imaginitive ones will probably make good use of the technology to make excellent wines of all types.

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  7. Ice wine art ? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 3, Interesting

    produce great ice wine and other fine vintages...with the help of judicious watering, a knowledge of the age-old art of viniculture

    We in France never mix great, fine wintage and age-old art with ice wine and watering in our phrases.
    (Then again, since all our phrases are in french, I suppose it explains ...)

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    1. Re:Ice wine art ? by lovebyte · · Score: 4, Informative

      In fact it is illegal for many regions of France to water vineyards.

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  8. Frost Patterns Thwarted By AMD by Root+Down · · Score: 4, Funny

    Using an Intel-based TinyOS and TinyDB, multiple sensing devices monitor grape micro climates and help determine irrigation and frost patterns.

    Now, if they had only used AMD chips, the increased heat alone would have obviated the need to check for frost patterns!

  9. And once you've got the wine by AndroidCat · · Score: 3, Funny

    Start up your Computer controlled barbecue slow cooker and have a party! Yeeha!

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  10. Re:Price vs Quality by schlach · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is hilarious. A first for Slashdot: the high-brow flame war.

    Let those suits tell us we're a bunch of unsophisticated cretins now. =p

  11. Use your power for Good, not Evil by HalfFlat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The chief advantage of this sort of thing, as far as I can tell (IANAWM), is that it allows the wine maker to practice their craft with more consistent and better quality raw materials.

    Like all good tools, it's how it is used that counts. Certainly it could allow greater homogenisation. On the other hand, it can allow the wine maker to create better and more interesting wines, when they do not have to cater to the vagaries of the environment to such a degree. If anything, I think such technology will have more of a positive effect than a negative, because the "consistently good but not great, dull but predictable and affordable" market seems to be sewn up already by the large wine manufacturers.

  12. Coaxing by kingswell · · Score: 3, Funny

    When I first skimmed the blurb I seriously thought "Well if he's coaxing the vines that's not very wireless, is it" and had odd thoughts of RG-6 throughout a vineyard. Glad to hear he's not co-ax-ing.

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  13. No viniculture... viticulture by crgrace · · Score: 3, Informative

    age-old art of viniculture

    That's viticulture...

  14. too many growers already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The biggest problem that wine has these days is that everyone and their brother has suddenly bought land and started growing grapes. So, the price of wine quality grapes has completely dropped through the floor.

    In turn, now there is glut of good wine on the market, and people are hard pressed (sorry for the pun) to make any profit when there are so many other wineries out there with the same products.

    In the past, there were only relative few number of producers so the price would remain high enough to keep them going.

    If you drive around the coast in California between LA and San Francisco, nearly every available hillside has been cut back and planted with thousands of grape vines. You can't go a few hundred yards in some places without crossing a vinyard.

    In a few years, I think many of these will be left to go fallow because there's just no money in undercutting the market in the long term.

  15. Yes. by John+Penix · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'd like to share a revelation that I've had, during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species I realized that you're not actually plants. Every plant on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment, but you grapes do not. You move to an area, and you multiply, and multiply, until every fencepost is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another fence. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. A virus. Grapes are a disease, a cancer of this planet, you are a plague, and the French are the cure.

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