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Are Standards Groups Stifling Innovation?

cpfeifer writes "Jim Waldo expresses a a controversial viewpoint in his blog: "Common wisdom, especially in distributed computing, says that the right approach to all problems is to use a standard. This common wisdom has no basis in fact or history, and is curtailing innovation and rewarding bad behavior in our industry. " He also goes on to clarify his position and explain his reasoning."

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  1. But the great thing about standards... by Albanach · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...is having so many to choose from.

    1. Re:But the great thing about standards... by deanj · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ah...the famous quote from Andy Tannenbaum's Networking book.

    2. Re:But the great thing about standards... by l33t+j03 · · Score: 1, Funny
      You really should rethink your position. Load up gortbusters.org. I did, and it changed my global outlook enormously.

      The site has everything you would expect from a site named gortbusters. An alien headed mascot on top of earthy colors with a sun-like deal that I saw one of tatted on the back of a pseudo hippie girl once, surrounded by grassy borders and even grassier text. Very gorty. Or anti-gorty I suppose.

      It addition to the wonderment of its graphical bliss the site has several content based features that set it apart from the countless billions of other gort focused sites. In one article the author lays bare the bias of the mass media outlets, a fresh new topic that has long deserved a hard look. The evilness if President Bush is dealt with with the same level headed unerring logic as capitalism in general. It has less traffic than Geekizoid you say? So what! If he keeps posting the same unverified shit you can get on any other college boy weblog, as if it were gospel, he is bound to get some traffic flowing. It is only a matter of time. Reserve your low UID now so you can sell it on Ebay later.

      Maybe you could rework the source of Bone-O-Rama to help me FP his site.

  2. 2 Standards by cordsie · · Score: 5, Funny

    I only know of two standards that have ever been of lasting use to me:
    0
    and
    1
    Everything else is probably just hype.

    1. Re:2 Standards by nmaeone · · Score: 2, Funny

      Although, you wouldn't be human if you didn't:

      0
      and
      'Maybe'
      and
      1

      You know, that fuzzy logic can be a bitch sometimes.

    2. Re:2 Standards by Casca · · Score: 1, Funny

      Good point, the problem is that there are 10 types of people out there, those that understand binary and those that don't.

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      Casca
  3. Re:Ahem ... by TopShelf · · Score: 3, Funny

    looks like you need some tussin for that cough, and be sure to check out the standardized labelling on the bottle while you're at it. Can you imagine if each pharmaceutical company had their own means of presenting information as well?

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    Stop by my site where I write about ERP systems & more
  4. Common widom... by pubjames · · Score: 5, Funny

    Common wisdom [..] says that the right approach to all problems is to use a standard. This common wisdom has no basis in fact or history, and is curtailing innovation and rewarding bad behavior in our industry.

    So true. The world would be a much better place without standards...

    Man: Hello shopkeeper, I'd like to buy some cheese please.

    Shopkeeper: Fine sir. How much do you want?

    Man: 500 grams.

    Shopkeeper: Sorry sir. We don't use grams here. We use flogborts.

    Man: What's a flogbort?

    Shopkeeper: It's our own system. Much better than grams. I'll explain..

    Man: Don't bother. How many grams to a flogbort?

    Shopkeeper: A6NG8

    Man: What?

    Shopkeeper: Sorry sir, we don't use decimal either. We have our own system. I have a diagram somewhere...

    Man: Listen, just give me one dollars worth.

    Shopkeeper: A dollars worth? I'm afraid we don't accept dollars...

    etc. etc.

    1. Re:Common widom... by HeX86 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Man: Give me this much (picks up cheese).

      Shopkeeper: horb de senob gobey dooben. (translation: sorry, we don't speak english either)

  5. Z Electric Company by emo+boy · · Score: 1, Funny

    Everyone knows Z Electric is the best company to go with. I mean you get $100 off your bill every month if subscribe to MSN Internet for the beginner's 10 Year Plan. (Sort of like the whole Best Buy deal you can get) Oh and Microsoft swears it's the best internet you can get next to 1st Generation Text-Based Prodigy.

  6. Re:Hrmm by actor_au · · Score: 4, Funny

    Would you like to buy a cd only to find out that it will only work on X cdplayer? or a device that's only able to run if you're with Z electricity company?

    According to the RIAA and MPAA: Yes.

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    Read Errant Story.
  7. Re:Q: What would we be without standards? by nmaeone · · Score: 2, Funny

    Seriously, if you're trying to innovate, just go out and do it. Nobody's stopping you.

    [Look around] Yo.. You.. You're with th.. tha.. that DMCA prosecution crew, aren't you? I don't know nothin! Nothin' I tell ya! I haven't innovated crap! [Slam Door]

  8. continued... by pubjames · · Score: 3, Funny


    Shopkeeper: A dollars worth? I'm afraid we don't accept dollars...

    Man [Angry]: Dammit! Just give me 4N flogborts of cheese then!

    Shopkeeper: Ah. We'll have to order it if you want that much Sir. We could have it for you by Four Uppity One on Snorbsday. Is that ok?

    Man slams door leaving cheese shop

    Shopkeeper [calling after him]: Whippitydee to you Sir! [Under his breath] Snobblefocker.

  9. uh oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    hmm...looks like he shoulda hosted these articles on BitTorrent

  10. You're soft by roystgnr · · Score: 3, Funny

    In my day, we didn't have "1", but we got by with 0 factorial just fine!

  11. Re:(speaking of "standards" ) Re:Ahem ... by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 2, Funny

    No, it stands for Object Management Group (the people who came up with CORBA).

    I read recently that there is a prion disease where you suffer months of insomnia before dying a slow, agonizing death from neural degeneration. So make sure you bookmark that link. If you ever get that disease, you'll want to print out some OMG standards documents and force yourself to read them. It could save your life someday.