Slashdot Mirror


Game Originality: Any Left?

Kamalot writes "In a world where 85% of games are solved with a gun, where are the original and innovative ideas? Adrenaline Vault has a telling editorial about the state of creativity in the game industry, the constant re-hashing of sequels, and a look into the future when technical achievements are no longer the driving force. What happens when every game follows a tried and true formula? Where do the new ideas go if we can't have games like Viewtiful Joe, Shenmue, and Jet Grind Radio? Did innovative, rather than mainstream, games send the Dreamcast to an early grave rather than the PS2's more bland, yet conforming, lineup of titles?"

20 of 778 comments (clear)

  1. Re:I blame the bloodthirsty media by Jerf · · Score: 4, Funny

    Good grief, I never thought I'd see someone work the poor quality of video games into The Conspiracy.

    Is there anything that isn't the direct result of whoever it is with the 260 IQ (because it would take nothing less to run The Conspiracy) running The Conspiracy?

    No, wait, this post must be part of The Conspiracy, too, trying to throw you off the track! Keep digging and you'll find the truth! (Or is this a double-cross attempt by The Conspiracy? All I can tell you is no matter what you decide, The Conspiracy will render your body down for the oil it contains as soon as it gets around to you.)

  2. yeah, right by maxpublic · · Score: 3, Funny

    Some games that did rather well despite the lack of violence:

    - Thief and Thief 2
    - The Longest Journey
    - Syberia
    - Myst
    - just about any Sim game

    While 85% of the games out there might feature violence, I sincerely doubt that 85% of the *purchases* are of violence-oriented games.

    Of course, if you're a college kid whose life revolves around Counterstrike and who uses terms like 'd00d!' then your perception of the matter is probably seriously warped by your personal experience.

    Max

    --
    My god carries a hammer. Your god died nailed to a tree. Any questions?
  3. Not Just In Gaming... by isa-kuruption · · Score: 5, Funny
    Look at Hollywood... there is a lack of originality there too. Look at the movies coming (or have already have) out this summer:
    • Matrix 2
    • X-Men 2
    • Hulk (comic book)?
    • Freddy vs Jason (god!)
    • Dumb and Dumberer
    • Rugrats Go Wild (tv cartoon)
    • Charlie's Angels (sequel to a movie after a tv show... as if that wasn't enough)
    • Bad Boys 2
    • Tomb Raider 2
    • Legally Blond 2
    • Jeeps Creepers 2
    • Spy Kids 3-D (aka Spy Kids 2)
    • Terminator 3
    Note: These are just the hideously obvious ones
    OMG IT'S THE SUMMER OF THE SEQUELS.... RUN... RUN FAR, FAR AWAY... SAVE YOURSELVES!!!
    1. Re:Not Just In Gaming... by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 5, Funny
      You forgot 2 Fast 2 Furious.

      An entire movie about people who make their cars faster through blacklight technology, strategic decal placement, random kanji, and oversized spoilers. I heard they even tried to give it a plot.

      "We need this job done, and there's only one man who can do it."
      "Uhh...the guy who just sank $40k into his Hyundai Accent?"
      "Precisely."

      --

      Obliteracy: Words with explosions

    2. Re:Not Just In Gaming... by _newwave_ · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's original name was "Faster and Furiouser"

  4. Re:Vote this down, stupid karma whore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Are you telling the stupid karma whores to vote this down?

  5. Re:It's even worse than they say.... by Theaetetus · · Score: 4, Funny
    The good thing about Atari in the day was one of the basic requirements: A new game had to look like nothing else that had come before it.

    Yeah! I loved that! Like that battletank game with 99 games built into it... There was:

    1. 2 tanks
    2. 2 tanks with walls
    3. 2 tanks with bunkers
    4. 2 tanks with walls and bunkers
    5. 2 tanks with bouncing bullets
    6. 2 tanks with walls and bouncing bullets
    7. 2 tanks with bunkers and bouncing bullets
    etc.

    (I know what you mean, though) ;)

    -T

  6. Re:It's even worse than they say.... by no+reason+to+be+here · · Score: 2, Funny

    The good thing about Atari in the day was one of the basic requirements: A new game had to look like nothing else that had come before it.

    Yeah, just like Ms. Pac-Man...
    uh, nevermind.

  7. Re:I want a "MacGyver" game by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 5, Funny

    It will have to go down one of two paths, neither of which will sell:

    1) The materials and resulting bomb are completely unbelivable to anyone with a 5th grade education and people won't play it because it's 'too fake'.

    2) The materials and resulting bomb are completely realistic and the game developers will be arrested as terrorists under the Patriot Act and probably be executed.

    Come to think of it, I might buy a copy of option #2...

    --
    A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing -- Emo Phillips
  8. Re:Stop Complaining by rwiedower · · Score: 2, Funny

    Mallrats isn't a "teen sex comedy". In order to be a teen sex comedy it would've had to include a sexier star than Jason Lee and a sexier voice than Joey Lauren Adams. And, it couldn't have garnered an "R" rating. Teen sex comedies live in PG-13 land.

  9. Re:The Best Example... by secolactico · · Score: 2, Funny

    What about N.U.D.E@ for XBox?

    That has got to be the most misleading link I've ever followed.

    Shame on me for clicking it even tho *I knew* it was not what I expected to be.

    Great, gotta open a new window to get a quick skin fix.

    --
    No sig
  10. Re:If only a few people like your game... by Fweeky · · Score: 3, Funny
    I'm sure there are people out there who are clearly smart enough to be able to combine A Good Time (TM) with Something New (TM) that Everyone Can Enjoy (SM).
    Like, say:
    • S.T.A.L.K.E.R. -- an FPS based around some odd Russian sci-fi around Chernobyl. Not only does it look like a cracking good FPS, but it has an original idea behind it that shapes the entire game!

      Well, er, we hope. We'll let you know when it's released.
    • Republic -- set in a fictitious eastern Europe country, where you have to build up a political movement and eventually overthrow/take over the government. A political game, no less.
    • Splinter Cell -- a game where you're supposed to avoid hurting people! Owes a lot to Thief, though.
    • Duke Nukem Forever -- a game where patience is more important than an itchy trigger finger.
  11. Re:Honestly.. by Jack+Comics · · Score: 2, Funny

    While men age 17-24 may not be interested in Barbie: Dress House II, I'm quite sure most would be interested in Britney Spears: Undress House II. That would be a game that didn't involve any violence, unless of course Justin Timberlake makes his way into the game as Britney's peeping-tom stalker or something.

    --
    "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." - Oscar Wilde
  12. Re:I want a "MacGyver" game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Yeah, you shouldnt solve problems with guns. Thats so american.

    You should solve them with homemade bombs, like the fine and upstanding Palistinians.

  13. Install something for fun by axxackall · · Score: 4, Funny
    In my whole life the most interesting and even intriguing adventure was to install Linux From Scratch: you never know what's broken next and what is the fix for it, you learn a lot, you ask people online for advise and thus socialize with them.

    I know, for video-game funs it sounds weird, but old guys who played adventure games on old TTY mainframe terminals will understand what I mean.

    --

    Less is more !
  14. Re:If only a few people like your game... by RealityMogul · · Score: 3, Funny

    So what about [can't remeber the title]? It's built on Halflife, but it puts a team leader in a coordinating, top down view, ordering the rest around. The teammates then run around in the 3d view, building bases, defenses and moving into position (as directed by the teamleader) to mow down the opposition. Think a cross between an rts and a fps, but with more tactics involved.

    Microsoft Headquarters?

  15. I learned from King of the Hill... by CausticPuppy · · Score: 2, Funny

    That reminds me, Dale Gribble once said it's possible to build a bomb using nothing but a roll of toilet paper and a stick of dynamite.

    --
    -CausticPuppy "Of all the people I know, you're certainly one of them." -Somebody I don't know
  16. Pushing boundaries / Original Film ( Maybe OT ) by A55M0NKEY · · Score: 3, Funny
    This is an idea for a short film/movie I want to see, not a game:

    You know how in a rpg battle ( I am thinking Final Fantasy X here where you have the guys waiting to get thier turn to fight just kinda waddling/dancing from side to side looking kinda stupid ) well wouldn't it be kewl if the whole party came to real life! They could talk to some gang bangers, opening thier mouths silently while a floating blue 'window' with some text appeared, the bewildered crack dealers would say something about how they were going to bust a cap in their arses and then out of nowhere the battle theme music would start playing 'dunt dun dun dunna na dunna na dunna..' and the characters would all start dancing from side to side. The bewildered gang-bangers would be like 'what the f*ck?' and start shooting. The bullets would bounce off someone's armor and maybe hit the little ORCO looking dude in the shoulder the white digits '399' to come up. Then maybe one of the girl chars would magic some green sparkles to give Orco back 567 life ( green digits ) Then the fighters - the main char,
    and that armored up guy would take out six or seven of those bad guys each on their turns and then Orco could summin Ifirt to crispy fry the rest.

    Soon all this ruckus would get the cops attention and another battle would ensue. The chick would summon a 'shield' spell and the moogle would send a pack of hundreds of chocobos to peck the heads of the cops trying to shoot the dancing characters. The main character would use 'mug' to dispatch the police chief ( a boss ) and get the gun mana to add to his sword. Now each slice hit also shoots a bullet!

    As the characters continued to search for the way home, breaking into random people's houses to steal anything in a foot-locker, vase, bookshelf or cabinet they would eventually draw the Army's ire who would position themselves blocking a bridge that would of course be the only way to get across the calm and easily swimmable stream. The intrepid characters needing to get home through the interdimensional portal hidden in a ps2 which was on the other side of the bridge would challenge the host of 'ArmyGuys' and 'MechaTanks' and 'FighterJets' ahead.

    The battle music would begin and they would switch the moogle for the Ninja guy, then a bullet would bounce off the main character's 'KevlarArmr' causing his limit to break. He - being the fastest aside from the ninja who has lost his turn by being switched in would go first and kill most of the weaker 'ArmyGuys' at once moving so fast that it looked like there were hundereds of him. The 'MechaTanks' would be mostlu uneffected. One of the 'MechaTanks' would shoot a shell blowing Orco's head clean off, but the chick would through some stuff out of a pillow on him and he would magically come back to life. Then the 'TroopCarriers' would do their 'more troops' move and replenish the entire supply of 'ArmyGuys' the Knight/Armor dude would step forward and hit a 'MechaTank' with all his might for a measily 1 damage. Then the Ninja, knowing the battle was shaping up to be fierce would eschew throwing the stars built for throwing that they picked up at the last town and start throwing obsolete weapons at
    military. A fire claw - for the cat dude that never gets played and has no experience goes flying and hits one of the 'TroopCarriers' setting it ablase.

    Hmm that fireclaw had magic in it thinks the party. The troop carrier was taken ou easily. So Orco summons Ramuh the lightning god to zap some of these machines. Bzzzzz every ArmyGuy and Major standing is wiped and three of the four MechaTanks are disabled. The ArmyGuys inside them pour out and run for their lives. But the last MechaTank does a 'radio for backup' and four TroopCarriers full of ArmyGuys come to replace the fallen.

    In the distance the roar of 'BomberJets' is heard and a floating digit clock showing 3 minutes starts ticking backwards. The FighterJets have now taken off and are circling back to fire missiles at the party but just in

    --

    Eat at Joe's.

  17. Re:The originality is in how... by ashitaka · · Score: 3, Funny

    The originality comes in your setting, your imagination and adding your own flavor ...

    Maybe Baz Luhrmann should be designing games?

    --
    If you don't want to repeat the past, stop living in it.
  18. The Dreamcast by 222 · · Score: 2, Funny

    died?
    mine is still very much alive and kicking....
    You just havent lived until you've played virtua tennis on hard, while drunk :)