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Phoenix Unveils Anti-Theft BIOS

linuxwrangler writes "According to articles at PC World, c|net, Internet Week and elsewhere, Phoenix Technology is introducing a new BIOS-based anti-theft system. Every time a TheftGuard equipped machine connects to the internet it pings a server at Phoenix which can instruct the machine to wipe its hard drive, report its location or disable itself. Given that most people don't want to have their every movement tracked and don't want someone else to have the power to wipe their drives, Phoenix figures that corporate clients are the prime customer. I just wonder who is liable when a company sells a surplus laptop on eBay but gets their inventory control screwed up and reports it as stolen..."

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  1. Shortly after the BIOS was unveiled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It was stolen. Police are investigating.

    1. Re:Shortly after the BIOS was unveiled by wo1verin3 · · Score: 4, Funny

      or disgruntled employee.

    2. Re:Shortly after the BIOS was unveiled by sheriff_p · · Score: 4, Funny

      I can't wait for the next round of people who stop trying to be cool by using the word 'virii' where 'viruses' is correct.

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    3. Re:Shortly after the BIOS was unveiled by Tony-A · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, the plural of virus is Microsoft.

  2. I'm confused... by Patik · · Score: 5, Funny
    Is this Phoenix the web browser, or Phoenix the BIOS?

    Damn Mozilla!

    1. Re:I'm confused... by Ignominious+Poltroon · · Score: 2, Funny

      And they're going to rename it Trans Am next month.

  3. Great.. by flatface · · Score: 4, Funny
    A stolen notebook can be a real threat to a business's security ...

    Aww! How do we expect to get an "early release" of Doom 4 now?

  4. Re:Murphy's Law by Soko · · Score: 4, Funny

    Remember, Murphy was an optimist.

    I'll wait for the first virus that activates this feature while spoofing the HW address.

    "Help, Phoenix, I've been STOLEN!!! Nevermind that guy I've got in chains and a gag, BLOW THIS PLACE UP!! NOW!!!"

    *BLAM*.

    One less Windows XP install in the world. Then again, this might be very useful as a LART...

    "What was you machine's name again? *Clickety-click*

    Soko

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  5. I am a user of this new technology.. by ewhenn · · Score: 4, Funny

    I would like to report that as a beta tester this new bios has served me flawlessly. I have 100 percent faith that I will never suffer any loss of data on its behalf. For all you skeptics out there I can guarantee....

    <CARRIER DISCONNECTED>

    1. Re:I am a user of this new technology.. by alexburke · · Score: 5, Funny

      <CARRIER DISCONNECTED>

      Dude, if you're gonna act all I-was-hip-way-back-in-the-BBS-days, at least get it righ&' 8Ré
      NO CARRIER

  6. Re:Replaceable Bios by GGardner · · Score: 5, Funny
    even if you remove the hard drive, we can still track or disable the machine, or wipe the drive,

    Wiping the drive after it is removed from the machine is a pretty neat trick.

  7. Company needs better PR guy. by Ignominious+Poltroon · · Score: 3, Funny
    "Over the last ten years laptops are starting to look the same," said Phoenix spokesperson David Tractenberg. "Something like TheftGuard can help to differentiate one product from another."

    Something like TheftGuard? It's like saying "TheftGuard is OK. But check out things that are like it, and you'll really be impressed."

  8. Re:Location? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    IP address?

    Quick -- where's 106.223.16.98 right now.

  9. only computers? by ozric99 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does this just stop people stealing computers, or will it stop them stealing product names also? ;)

    (ducks for cover)

  10. whaaaaa by lingqi · · Score: 5, Funny
    How bad will it suck when it happens to the CEO's assistant's laptop and she comes storming into your pitiful excuse for a NOC right before you were supposed to go on lunch?

    From my experience, CEOs usually have very very fine assistants.

    Hey, maybe she is actually very technically capable, and consciously activated the erase-all-data feature just so have an excuse to talk to you, give you a chance to ask for her extension etc. =)

    Aww shutup and let me daydream.

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  11. What stops someone from swaping out the bios chip by djupedal · · Score: 4, Funny

    A 500V shock direct to the testicles?

  12. ouch by x757x · · Score: 4, Funny

    now that would be THE anti-theft feature. who would screw with that? /me wonders....

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    1. Re:ouch by shepd · · Score: 4, Funny

      >who would screw with that?

      Women?

      Nahhh....

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    2. Re:ouch by Pall+Agamemnides · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Ohhh! My ovaries!"

  13. Re:Problems With This Idea by rat7307 · · Score: 4, Funny

    We've traced the computer back to an IP address of 127.0.0.1, some ISP called 'localhost'... Look, I can ping it from here!!!! Nuke it now!!! ..... DOH!

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  14. nice scenarios in comments so far by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Funny

    here's another:

    disgruntled fired admin, on his last day, instructs firewall servers to redirect pings to phoenixbios.net: boom! every computer in the company gets an empty harddrive ;-P

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    1. Re:nice scenarios in comments so far by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      C:\>tracert life.liberty.pursuit-of-happiness

      Reponse from ashcroft.doj.gov: Destination net unreachable

  15. Re:I shouldn't tell this secret, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    "It always amazes me when some student at my campus steals a lab computer and doesn't think that our DHCP server will let us know the next time it gets plugged back in to our network. Over half our stolen computers get recovered that way. Just last night, one was stolen (end of the academic year is always bad for theft) and the kid decides to plug it in in his room. He really should have waited 5 more days to use it and he would have graduated on time. Now he is facing expulsion. Idiots!"

    How about the student working on his thesis that decides it's a good idea to do a ISS scan on the college network...using the TRIAL version thus producing a nice popup on EVERY pc telling who scanned you and from what IP!!

  16. Re:Location? by The_dev0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's directly across the road from 106.223.16.96, stupid. Gee whiz, you'll never be a cop.

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  17. Wow, to be THAT hacker by sterno · · Score: 3, Funny

    Somebody hacks into the company and flips the kill switch on all the bios's. Thousdands of laptops, most of them not backed up routinely, are wiped. Ouchy.

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  18. Re:corporate clients by BillKaos · · Score: 2, Funny

    The MS IIS marketing team can help.

  19. Re:BIOS Hacking? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Are you suggesting that there is a criminal element at work on Kazaa? Because last time I checked it was just a music/file swapping network....

  20. Anti-Theft BIOS? by The+Original+Yama · · Score: 4, Funny

    Every time I open a system case, I feel like stealing the BIOS. Screw the CPU(s), memory, video card(s) and hard drive(s), just gimme that BIOS chip!

    1. Re:Anti-Theft BIOS? by cscx · · Score: 2, Funny

      Kind of like breaking into a pimped-out ride and stealing the fuzzy dice hanging from the mirror.

  21. Re:actually you are both right, but... by eeyoredragon · · Score: 5, Funny

    you forgot the suggested:
    2 viruses = virii
    3 viruses = viriii
    and so on. now doesn't that make one feel educated? ;) i honestly wonder how some people get their degrees.

    i guess an unknown quantity of viruses would be vir(i*)... as in, "well, there are many vir(i*) that could be the end of humanity." *shakes head in wonderment*

  22. Re:Replaceable Bios by twiztidlojik · · Score: 2, Funny

    Or one of those nifty thermite reactions-in-a-3.5"-drive-bay jobs.

    Now THAT's a cooked sausage!

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  23. Re:What stops someone from swaping out the bios ch by Technician · · Score: 2, Funny

    Time for tin foil underwear!

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  24. Screw the BIOS sell me the sticker! by gad_zuki! · · Score: 3, Funny

    Likewise, it doesn't take more than a little research to find someone who can make "Phoenix Theft-Guard Protected" stickers for your laptop for a few pennies a pop.

    Personally, I'd go with the "This Laptop is GPS enabled and filled with C4 explosives set to go off when reported stolen. Enjoy life with your three out of ten fingers."

    1. Re:Screw the BIOS sell me the sticker! by dmoen · · Score: 2, Funny
      Personally, I'd go with the "This Laptop is GPS enabled and filled with C4 explosives set to go off when reported stolen.


      Good luck getting your laptop past airport security and aboard an airplane.


      Oooooh nooooo! Not the anal probe!!!!

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  25. When in Rome.. by McNally · · Score: 5, Funny

    you forgot the suggested:
    2 viruses = virii
    3 viruses = viriii
    and so on...

    i guess an unknown quantity of viruses would be vir(i*)...


    No, no, no.. It's inelegant to extend a latin root by just adding extra "i"s.. To be true to the spirit of the language, surely it would be more appropriate to proceed thusly:

    4 viruses = viriv
    9 viruses = virix
    1001 viruses = virmi

    etc..
  26. Meanwhile, in the secret Cavern... by elpapacito · · Score: 3, Funny

    Some guy in the Phoenix marketing has a brilliant idea ! Let's "market" the bios so that every year the user is forced to buy a "security upgrade" and let's call it a "security feature". At worse we'll blame either pirates like some other big company does, or we'll blame hackers. I hear the master hacker is hiding in caves...

    It seems obvious to me they want to extract more money out of customers by crippling the bios rather then by really improving it.

  27. Re:No so outlandish by Alsee · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's never safe to bet against incompetence :D

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