Posted by
ryuzaki0
on from the ip-address-in-every-pot dept.
miladus writes "According to a story at Zdnet,
Asian countries are running out of IP addresses. China, for example,
was assigned 22 million IP addresses (for a population of 1.3 billion)
under IPv4. The US owns 70 percent of current IP addresses. Perhaps IPv6 will solve the problem."
How is the current allocation not fair? The Internet was developed in the US, why shouldn't they allocate to themselves however many they feel they need?
Oh wait this is/., the US is always wrong...I forgot.
Running out of addresses. Right!!!!
by
doorman
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There have been stories about how some part or the entire Internet is running out of IP address space since at least 1993. And using China as an example is silly. Most if not all the country is behind a huge "firewall" capable of running NAT services. They could run V6 internally, gateway it, and we would never know the difference.
Once again ZD reports a nothing issue as news.
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The problem is the US government
by
alen
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They run their internal networks on public IP's and waste a lot of them since they aren't in use. If Uncle Sam switched to NAT for internal networks then a lot of these problems would go away.
Yeah, those dudes with the rickshaws could use GPS/Internet/Bluetooth to locate their next customer.
Or maybe the government could implant RFID into each citizen with an IP address.
-- The illiteracy rate of Asian Americans is 5.3 times that of cacuasians.
33% of Asian Americans students in public high schools drop out or do not graduate on time.
24% of Asian Americans over age 25 do not have a high school degree.
46% of Asian American households do not have anyone over age 14 who can speak English well.
From http://www.cacf.org/mythsfacts/
If they can't even manage to learn to read or speak well in America, how the hell can you claim they need IP addresses. If we did give it to them, they'd probably use it to cheat on multiplayer games, or sell Americans broken computer hardware.
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Re:"Perhaps" IPV6 will solve the problem?
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plague3106
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This works out to approximately 665,570,793,348,866,943,898,599 IP addresses per square meter of the surface of the planet Earth.
I live in the 3rd dimension, and have 2 families living directly below me. Also keep in mind that the population of humans is growing pretty fast...so it may be possible to run out of IPv6 addresses too. How soon, who knows...but saying that it won't happen is like saying no one will ever need more then 640k of memory..
Re:whats the ratio?
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jhunsake
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I think it still doesn't matter. We invented the shit, and we'll do what we want to with it.
Re:whats the ratio?
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FallLine
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Canadians and Scotts want their phone back.
The French want back their Nazis....oh wait a minute...
Re:"Perhaps" IPV6 will solve the problem?
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Daetrin
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No, you sound like the ignorant idiot. If the problems we were going to run into were easily foreseable, no one would ever be foolish enough to say "640k is enough for anyone" or "we'll never need IP addresses larger than 128 bits."
The most obvious possibility for running out of IPV6 addreses as has already been mentioned is the development of nanobots. Those could start eating into the number of available addresses pretty seriously.
A lot of your fellow posters seem to be under the misaprehension that we only need to consider earth. I'd really like to think that we'll make it off this planet someday. If we do, we might evntually end up colonizing billions of planets, and have who knows how many various devices scattered about in the space betweem planets. (Pleanty of room there for a _lot_ of nanobots)
And as someone else also mentioned, mismanagement can also "lose" a large number of addresses, although that probably wouldn't be any larger than a factor of 10 or so at most.
1000 years from now the Slashdot of the times could be posting a story that Galaxy 169 is running out of IPV6 addresses because Galaxy 1 was allocated 50% of all the possible addreses.
THINK before you post... THINK before you post... Keep repeating that yourself... IDIOT!
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Re:I'm experiancing this first hand in Tokyo..
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CokeBear
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Hey LGM! Whazzup? Haven't heard from you in a while! What are you doing in Tokyo?
Slashdot Mirror
Thats ok b/c they probably CONTROL about half of the servers in america anyhow.
I couldn't fail to disagree with you any less.
How is the current allocation not fair? The Internet was developed in the US, why shouldn't they allocate to themselves however many they feel they need?
/., the US is always wrong...I forgot.
Oh wait this is
There have been stories about how some part or the entire Internet is running out of IP address space since at least 1993. And using China as an example is silly. Most if not all the country is behind a huge "firewall" capable of running NAT services. They could run V6 internally, gateway it, and we would never know the difference.
Once again ZD reports a nothing issue as news.
-G "We love to buy books, because we are buying the belief we have time to read them" - Warren Zevon
They run their internal networks on public IP's and waste a lot of them since they aren't in use. If Uncle Sam switched to NAT for internal networks then a lot of these problems would go away.
2) Actually allocate the addresses in a way that has some semblance of fairness to it.
3) Profit...
Yeah, those dudes with the rickshaws could use GPS/Internet/Bluetooth to locate their next customer.
Or maybe the government could implant RFID into each citizen with an IP address.
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The illiteracy rate of Asian Americans is 5.3 times that of cacuasians.
33% of Asian Americans students in public high schools drop out or do not graduate on time.
24% of Asian Americans over age 25 do not have a high school degree.
46% of Asian American households do not have anyone over age 14 who can speak English well.
From http://www.cacf.org/mythsfacts/
If they can't even manage to learn to read or speak well in America, how the hell can you claim they need IP addresses. If we did give it to them, they'd probably use it to cheat on multiplayer games, or sell Americans broken computer hardware.
I've had enough abrasive sigs. Kittens are cute and fuzzy.
This works out to approximately 665,570,793,348,866,943,898,599 IP addresses per square meter of the surface of the planet Earth.
I live in the 3rd dimension, and have 2 families living directly below me. Also keep in mind that the population of humans is growing pretty fast...so it may be possible to run out of IPv6 addresses too. How soon, who knows...but saying that it won't happen is like saying no one will ever need more then 640k of memory..
Please explain to me how assigning ROUTEABLE addresses to people inside your private network is going to work?
If there's a 1.2.3.4 in the real world, and you give Joe Shmoe on your private network 1.2.3.4, the router's gotta pick one or the other, bub.
How this got modded up to 4 is beyond me. It's obvious the poster has ZERO understanding of IP routing...
Please help metamoderate.
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I think it still doesn't matter. We invented the shit, and we'll do what we want to with it.
The most obvious possibility for running out of IPV6 addreses as has already been mentioned is the development of nanobots. Those could start eating into the number of available addresses pretty seriously.
A lot of your fellow posters seem to be under the misaprehension that we only need to consider earth. I'd really like to think that we'll make it off this planet someday. If we do, we might evntually end up colonizing billions of planets, and have who knows how many various devices scattered about in the space betweem planets. (Pleanty of room there for a _lot_ of nanobots)
And as someone else also mentioned, mismanagement can also "lose" a large number of addresses, although that probably wouldn't be any larger than a factor of 10 or so at most.
1000 years from now the Slashdot of the times could be posting a story that Galaxy 169 is running out of IPV6 addresses because Galaxy 1 was allocated 50% of all the possible addreses.
THINK before you post... THINK before you post... Keep repeating that yourself... IDIOT!
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Hey LGM!
Whazzup? Haven't heard from you in a while!
What are you doing in Tokyo?
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