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The Computational Requirements for the Matrix

goombah99 writes "Nick Bostrom discusses the computational requirements needed to simulate human existence. He offers a proof based on the anthropic principle, that you are almost certainly a computer simulation and not "real". The idea is that given that humans don't go extinct in geologically short time then eventually computer capability will allow complete simulation of the human cortex. Consequently, there must be far more simulations running in future millennia than seconds since you were born. Thus its astronomically more likely you are a simulation than real ... if humans don't go extinct shortly. Recalling the 13th floor, Robin Hanson discusses how one should try to live in a simulation. David Wolpert also weighs in on the physical limits of Turing machines for simulation of the universe. This also may explain why time travel seems impossible: we dont meet visitors from the future since only the present is being simulated."

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  1. and this my friends is why by cyrax777 · · Score: 5, Funny

    drugs are bad mmmmkay

  2. woooah by mjdth · · Score: 5, Funny

    this article is way too deep for 3 am. i'll just wait until /. accidently reposts it sometime later this week at a more reasonable hour.

    but either way, i wouldn't believe this because it would be too scary if it were true.

    1. Re:woooah by evilviper · · Score: 5, Funny

      The /. has you...

      Follow the white rabbit...

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    2. Re:woooah by MainframeKiller · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't see how it's truth would change anything (from your mind's perspective, at least), so I'm not sure why you would find it "too scary." Consciousness built on neurons made of atoms is no more real than consciousness built on simulationed neurons made of simulationed atoms. Consciousness is as consciousness does.

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  3. Looks like a TNT32 card and a 500mhz to me by CrazyJim0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Its not bullet time, so much as FPS lag.

  4. So that means... by BanSiesta · · Score: 5, Funny

    So I'm just a piece of code then? I bet I'm not even indented properly. Bastards!

    I hope I don't get optimized away...

  5. Where do I submit patches by Timesprout · · Score: 5, Funny

    Cos I have a few changes I would like to make to this simulation. Simple things like

    Person* Timesprout = GetPerson(xxxxx); Timesprout->physique = "Addonis";
    Timesprout->attraction_level = "irristible to supermodels and actresses;'
    Timesprout->wealth = BILL_GATES->wealth * 10;
    Timespout->abode[0] = "Island paradise surrounded by beautiful nubile girls";
    Timesprout->car[0] = "Ferrari spider";

    I'll see how these work out before commiting more.

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  6. life(); by aardwolf204 · · Score: 5, Funny


    So what your saying is that if life as we know it is a simulation then the meaning of life() is Return 0;

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  7. Re:Episode of Star Trek by Treskin · · Score: 5, Funny

    Taking bets on how many people actually say "Computer, end program" out loud while reading this post.

  8. Obligatory matrix bastardisation by comet_11 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Trinity: Morpheus, the post was modded down, I don't know how.

    Morpheus: I know, they used the overrated exploit. There's no time, you're going to have to get to another post.

    Trinity: Are there any trolls?

    Morpheus: Yes.

    Trinity: Goddammit.

    Morpheus: You have to focus, Trinity. There are mod points at Wells and Lake. You can make it.

    Trinity: All right.

    Morpheus: Go.

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