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Mars Express launch today

mikerich writes "The European Space Agency and the Russian Space Agency will launch the Mars Express spaceprobe today using a Soyuz-Fregat out of Baikonur cosmodrome in Kazakhstan. Launch is scheduled for 17.45 UT (18.45 BST), so far all preparations have gone smoothly and the forecast is excellent. The launch will be streamed over the Web by ESA. Mars Express consists of two components, a large Martian orbiter which will be searching for sub-surface water and studying the Martian atmosphere. Its seven science packages have been built by teams from Europe, Russia, the United States, Japan, and China. Amongst the science packages is a radar for studying geological structures. Mars Express will map most of the planet in high-resolution colour stereoscopic 3D and perform a high-resolution mineralogical survey of the planet. Mars Express is also carrying the tiny Beagle 2 lander designed by a team led by Professor Colin Pillinger of the Open University. Beagle 2 is Britain's first planetary space probe and designed specifically to look for life using the most advanced techniques currently available. For those in the UK, the story of Beagle 2 is being told on BBC 2 on Monday 2nd June at 23:20." Dan B. writes "The BBC is running an article on the European 'Mars Express', Europe's first interplanetary rocket. This is the first of three probes heading to the Red Planet this Summer, as it nears it's closest point from the Earth in thousands of years."

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  1. Mars... by SpanishInquisition · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's so 1976...

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    1. Re:Mars... by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 3, Funny

      no, no

      it's at 17:45

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  2. Beagle, ESA and .uk by meringuoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wish the Beagle 2 in particular the very best of luck. Britain has never really pulled its weight in ESA, leaving France, Germany and Italy to pay for most things; a successful Mars lander bearing the Union flag could well change all that. Mars Express as a whole was done on a small budget, and Beagle was hacked together from the money that could be found down the back of the national sofa; if they succeed, imagine what could be achieved with some _real_ money...

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    1. Re:Beagle, ESA and .uk by Jez · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Colin Pillinger was one of the originators of the "faster, cheaper, better" way of developing space probes. He had to be, because there's just no way that ESA could follow the NASA model of ever bigger, more expensive projects. I worked in his lab, back when Beagle2 and Cassini were just starting to be talked about. 2003 seemed so far off. It's amazing that it's actually here, and built, and ready to go.

    2. Re:Beagle, ESA and .uk by aallan · · Score: 4, Interesting

      A frugal scientist with twice as much funding may not be any more productive than a frugal scientist with his current budget.

      Being a frugal British scientist working on a a tight budget I can tell you that while this may be true in some cases, just taking the stress of being so close to the wire away could mean that some people can get more science done. Heck I just blew the last three weeks writing grant proposals, very little science (or anything else, including sleep) got done during that time. For this I got a PhD?

      Al.
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    3. Re:Beagle, ESA and .uk by corleth · · Score: 2, Interesting
      As someone based in the UK but having worked in the US from time to time, I have to say that my US colleagues, at least in planetary science, spend more time writing research proposals than we do. Their proposals are simply much longer and more in-depth than UK ones; more akin to EC Framework projects. That being said, their proposals more likely to get funded, and funded well.

      Agreed about the tight budget thing though. It would be nice, just for once, to have a budget that allowed me to just buy, for example, extra memory for my computer as and when I needed it.

    4. Re:Beagle, ESA and .uk by j-b0y · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Actually, they're aimed at being much cheaper, Rosetta, Mars Express and Venus Express use/will use the same platform and control system, Rosetta and Mars Express share the same Flight Control Team and support staff.

      This may not sound like a big deal, but it can really cut down on the cost

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    5. Re:Beagle, ESA and .uk by meringuoid · · Score: 3, Informative
      Wonder if NASA ever heard of "economies of scale".

      Actually, yes, they did. The basic Mariner design was modified and reused for many of NASA's planetary missions; ESA's reuse of the Express design for Mars and Venus is certainly nothing new.

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  3. If anything goes wrong... by jabbadabbadoo · · Score: 4, Funny
    ...just call SOS Beagles

    Let's hope the ESA engineers haven't been barkin' up the wrong tree.

  4. The search by Timesprout · · Score: 5, Funny

    Beagle 2 is Britain's first planetary space probe and designed specifically to look for life using the most advanced techniques currently available.

    In the best British tradition the probe will lay out a tea set and some cucumber sandwiches to attract alien lifeforms.

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    1. Re:The search by AndrewHowe · · Score: 5, Funny

      Let's hope the aliens are not cucumber-like.

    2. Re:The search by mark2003 · · Score: 3, Funny

      In the best British tradition the probe will lay out a tea set and some cucumber sandwiches to attract alien lifeforms.

      Actually in the best British tradition, the probe will be wearing an England/Millwall/Arsenal shirt, will be p*ssed out of it's mind and will start broadcasting threatening messages to any lifeform it detects for "looking at it funny".

      We are not going to Mars just to find life but to kick the living daylights out of it...

    3. Re:The search by mark2003 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Would be more appropriate for it to be chanting either:

      Come and have a go if you think you're hard enough, or

      Engerlund, engerlund...

    4. Re:The search by sane? · · Score: 2, Funny
      Well...
      1. The colour test pattern of the Beagle 2 has been created by the artist Damien Hurst.
      2. Damien was one member of the joke band 'Fat Les', famous for their song 'Vindaloo'
      3. Said song was famous for doing very well on the terraces at a previous excusion of the England football team into foreign parts.
      So, not too far off the mark.

      Now all we need is a Mars excusion robot shaped like a ball, with appropriately shaped black solar cells positioned over its surface and, BINGO! - Mars football...

    5. Re:The search by Epsillon · · Score: 3, Funny

      In the best British tradition the probe will lay out a tea set and some cucumber sandwiches to attract alien lifeforms.

      No, with the thin Martian atmosphere the water would boil at too low a temperature, so you can't make a decent cup of tea on Mars. Frightfully important to make a good first impression on the blighters, so we sent it up with some of our real ale instead. Wouldn't want them to get ticked off for sending awful tasting stuff - like your beer - wot! :o)

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  5. We are getting so much closer now... by WwWonka · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...to hearing Tom Brokaw proudly state that "Nasa has just sent a probe to Uranus!"

  6. watch the launch, live by dj_paulgibbs · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not sure if this is a good idea in regards to future slashdotting, but there is going to be a webcam showing the proceedings.

    1. Re:watch the launch, live by dj_paulgibbs · · Score: 2, Funny

      bugger. Mod me down :(

  7. Obligatory Futurama joke by Mika_Lindman · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...to hearing Tom Brokaw proudly state that "Nasa has just sent a probe to Uranus!"

    Prior to this, the name Uranus will be changed to Urectum.

  8. Damn it.... by botzi · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was going to watch the launching from the ESA site....
    Now with the link to the streaming page published on /. I may simply forgot about it:-/

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  9. But is the Beagle Horny? by krystal_blade · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is the first of three probes heading to the Red Planet this Summer, as it nears it's closest point from the Earth in thousands of years

    People of Earth, hear us. We, the people of mars, grow tired of your repetetive probings!

    You must cease and desist with this probing, especially with one named after a dog. (We've watched what your dogs do on your planet, and have no wish to undergo the same "leg" treatment.)

    And you must stop this photography of our martian mounds. This blatant harrassment will only lead to a hostile relationship between us.

    Perhaps with some beating, and bondage thrown in...

    krystal_blade... No martians were harmed during the posting of this comment....

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    1. Re:But is the Beagle Horny? by Becquerel · · Score: 2, Informative
      especially with one named after a dog

      FYI the Beagle2 probe is named after the HMS Beagle that carried Darwin on his world travels, whence he galvanised his ideas on the origin of species

      The HMS Beagle though, was named after a dog

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  10. Re:Two space probes enter a bar... by Timesprout · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You seem to overlook the fact that a lot of very intelligent people who are well capable of learning from their own and the mistakes of others work on these projects. Its think it is far too cynical to assume there will be blunders just because there was a previous mixup. the ESA has a long history of successful collaboration on projects so why should this one be any different. I certainly hope this mission is successful and we get more useful data on Mars

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  11. Most intense period of planetary exploration ever by corleth · · Score: 5, Informative
    Not only are Mars Express and Beagle 2 going to be joined by two NASA landers, but also the Japanese orbiter, Nozomi. These five missions will complement NASA's Mars Global Surveyor, launched in 1997, and Mars Odyssey, launched in 2001, which are still returning excellent data of the surface of Mars from orbit. This marks not only the beginning of the most intensive period of study of Mars in the history of space exploration, but also the start of a planetary science renaissance.

    In addition to these missions, also keep an eye on the NASA/ESA Cassini-Huygens mission to Saturn and Titan, arriving later this year, as well as ESA's SMART-1 mission to the moon to be launched soon. Future plans include NASA's Mercury Messenger, and ESA's Venus Express and Bepi-Columbo.

  12. Alternative to web broadcast by corleth · · Score: 5, Informative
    If you have access to Astra 2C satellite reception equipment, I suggest that you link directly in to the ESA television broadcast. The quality should be better and it might help relieve the slashdot effect. The details are as follows:

    • Satellite:
    • Astra 2C at 19 degrees East
      Reception frequency: 10832 MHz
      Polarisation: Horizontal
      Symbol rate: 22 Msymb/s
      FEC: 5/6
      Service ID: 61950
      Service name: ESA
      TXT: none
      Start of launch transmission: 19:15 CEST (17:15 GMT/UT)
  13. In 2003, War was beginning... by krystal_blade · · Score: 2, Funny

    Martian Overlord: What happen?
    Engineering Drone: Somebody set up us three probes.
    Signals Drone: We get signal.
    Martian Overlord: What!
    Signals Drone: Main screen turn on.
    Martian Overlord: It's You !!
    Beagle: How are you gentlemen !!
    Beagle: All your base are belong to us probes.
    Beagle: You are on the way to destruction.
    Martian Overlord: What you say !!
    Beagle: You have no chance to survive make your time.
    Beagle: HA HA HA HA .... Bzzzt Chirp!
    Martian Overlord: Take off every 'zig'!!
    Martian Overlord: You know what you doing.
    Martian Overlord: Move 'zig'.
    Martian Overlord: For great justice.

    krystal_blade

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    1. Re:In 2003, War was beginning... by Tackhead · · Score: 2, Funny
      > Beagle: All your base are belong to us probes.
      > Beagle: You are on the way to destruction.

      As opposed to:

      Generic NASA Mars Lander: We are on the way to destruction.

  14. Good luck Europe! by BTWR · · Score: 2

    I'm serious here.

    I know many of you hate us, and have even wished us ill-will recently, but rest assured, I don't hate you, and I wish you the best of luck in this endeavor.

    New York, out...

    1. Re:Good luck Europe! by johannesg · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Many of us _hate_ you? Whatever gave you that idea?

      It is certainly true many Europeans are not major fans of your current leadership, but frankly most of us hope you will eventually regain your senses and vote someone more sensible into the white house.

      I'm disturbed that you felt you needed to post this. I didn't realize American perception of Europe can be so wrong. What do you think of when someone mentions Europe?

    2. Re:Good luck Europe! by johannesg · · Score: 2
      Sorry, but criticism does not equal hatred. I offer criticism, but not hatred. For that matter, so did the French government when it rejected the war in Iraq: no hatred, just criticism.

      As for France and Austria, they were extremely foolish (in the case of France) and irresponsible (in the case of Austria) to elect Le Pen (almost) and Haider. And that too is criticism, rather than hatred.

    3. Re:Good luck Europe! by golgotha007 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If I were to move, I'd live in one of the former Russian colonies (Czech Republic would be nice), where they haven't been free long enough to become arrogant, and where American pop culture hasn't penetrated very far.

      well i can tell you that you're not going to find what you're looking for. i moved to Saint Petersburg, Russia 3 months ago (born and raised in Calfornia). when i'm in a busy public place, i don't dare utter a single english word in fear that i will be jumped immediately.

      hell, even the MacDonalds down the street was broken into and vandalized in protest against the Americans...

      George W was here 2 days ago. they limited where he could go outside because of fear of sniper fire...

  15. Re:Most intense period of planetary exploration ev by Eloquence · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually, Cassini will enter Saturn's orbit on July 1, 2004.

  16. Re:Where's Ariane? by corleth · · Score: 3, Informative

    Cost. The budget was extremely tight and Russia launch cheaper than ESA, even for ESA-run missions. It's a pretty strange state of affairs.

  17. Re:Two space probes enter a bar... by j-b0y · · Score: 2, Informative
    I don't think you've got good reasons at all. Yes, ESA is an international organisation, but it isn't the barrel o' pork that NASA is, and it is by comparison, reasonably stream-lined organisation. Maybe not as efficient as a private company, but since there is no data on the efficiency of private compnaies organising a space program, we may never know.

    The use of the U.K. Blue Streak launcher by the European Launcher Development Organisation (ELDO) was probably a mistake, but as the basis for developing launcher tech it wasn't a bad start; remember Europe didn't have the experience the US had through the Gemini program and effectively was starting from scratch, since the native expertise was whisked off to the US after WWII to work of the US space program.

    I think you'll find that Ariane 4 was actually one of the most successful launchers around.

    Had the Cluster project not chosen take to get a free ride on an unqualified launcher, no one would have given a rat's ass about Ariane 501. Unfortunately Arianespace started to believe their own PR...

    ESA have always had a small fraction of the budget available to NASA; on that basis they've rather well really.

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  18. Time in the US by Seekerofknowledge · · Score: 2, Informative

    I didn't know this at first, so I thought it might help. The launch time is 12:15 pm in EST. Very soon now.

  19. Re:Isn't it sad... by Vollernurd · · Score: 2, Funny

    Maybe, until they want independence. We'll end up levying taxes against them, they'll not like it, and before you know it "The Redccoats are coming!" :)

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  20. I think there's something wrong with Mr. Poslow by DrMorpheus · · Score: 2, Funny
    but watch out for vacuum leeks
    I didn't know leeks could grow in a vacuum. Well those damn, clever Welsh!
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  21. In other words by 2names · · Score: 3, Funny
    so far all preparations have gone smoothly and the forecast is excellent.

    Translation: "Our Secret Soviet Weather control machine is working perfectly. Now, where are Moose and Squirrel?"

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  22. Success! by corleth · · Score: 2, Informative

    The launch went fine. MEx is in Earth orbit. The first major maneuver will be at 20:15 GMT/UT.

  23. Re:Most intense period of planetary exploration ev by Ella+the+Cat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Drivel. Why is natural good? Disease is natural, old age is natural, dinosaur killing asteroids are natural, eating your offspring is natural. Any intelligent spacefaring species worth its salt would consider primitive spaceprobes cute and worthy of a pat on the head. As for the "scientists should think" remark, tell me I had a sense of humour failure and you're trolling, because the alternative doesn't bear thinking about.

  24. User manual... by ctid · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I hope there are still some people reading, but not enough to slashdot this site. I was mooching around the Beagle 2 mission site and found a link to Starsem, the Russian company that provided the launcher. They have the user manual for the Soyuz-Fregat launcher online!! How cool is that? Caution, it's an 8MB download.

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