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Jonathan Ive Named Designer of the Year

no_demons writes "Jonathan Ive, the man behind the iMac and the iPod, has won the first Designer of the Year award from the Design Museum in London. The Independent has the scoop, and BBC2 has the documentary on Wednesday, June 11th."

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  1. Good for him!! by bgog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now we just need this guy to design a universal remote control since most designs suck!

  2. Not yet by corebreech · · Score: 5, Funny

    Almost any room you put a new Mac in is going to look ugly by comparison.

    I want to see the iRoom. With an iDesk, an iLamp, and an iSeat.

    Them maybe we talk about awards and such.

    1. Re:Not yet by berniecase · · Score: 5, Funny
      God, that's the truth. I've got this ugly desk with my cinema display, and the desk just looks like crap compared to everything else. See for yourself:

      Any way you slice it, the compuer always looks better than the desk. I'm trying to find a decent glass desk to compliment the computer, but then I'll need to see about getting rid of the crappy carpet in here.
    2. Re:Not yet by cioxx · · Score: 5, Funny

      Go into nearest IKEA (Office section) and look for the Glass surface desk. It's not available in the web catalogue and I saw one as recently as last month.

      These things really emphasize the mental asylum enveloped in minimalism if you work hard enough on arranging the shit around and stealthing the cables and such out of the view.

      Wood desks are so last century. The rule of thumb is: the computer environment should be at least 1/4th of the price of the hardware that sits on top and beneath it.

  3. Only this year? by OmniVector · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think it goes without saying that this guy has changed the way a lot of people look at computers today.
    They aren't just mindless machines that perform a task, thanks to him and apple they are elegant pieces of art and form met with function.

    I mean come on, take a look at the iPod for example. It uses a radial menu -- the most efficient menu design, combined with the scroll wheel and a large LCD. It's completely intuitive, and so simple to use that it justifies the extra $100 compared with other mp3 players of it's class.

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    1. Re:Only this year? by berniecase · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Simple test - give an iPod to someone who's never used it before. In about a minute, they'll have figured out the menu system. Seriously, there is something to be said for making a device without a million buttons nobody knows the function for!

  4. Re:Innovative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
    Even if that word [innovative] has lost most of it's meaning with the use of it by a certain Northwest company.

    Yeah, Alaska Airlines has totally lost its edge.

  5. AUGH! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Too many fuckin links, you fuckin tools! I'm looking at the story going, "shit, what the fuck do I click?" I try one. Shit! It's the goddamn iMac site. I KNOW what an iMac looks like, you morons, I'm from EARTH. So I try another one. Augh! Fuckin "Design Museum" site! Bitches! Screw this!

    This reminds me of 19-fuckin-93, when hyperlinks were this new and kewl thing. D00D! I can make words to things! So whenever I type "iMac" I should make it link to the iMac site! KEWL! I AM MAD SKILLZ WEBMASTAR!

    You guys suck. Oh, you guys suck.

  6. congrats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Congratulations to Mr. Ive.

    I'm glad there are still companies that care about DESIGN and the feel of something in your hand.

    I was thinking of this today when I saw the ugly new Canon G5, an otherwise great camera that looks like a shrunken down 1970's rangefinder, complete with gratutious and useless chrome trim.

    The best designs are MINIMAL. The best designs have no more buttons than necessary, that have a screen just large enough, that focus on small details and never add elements unless they are absolutely necessary. If they are held in the hand, they should be smooth and inviting and free of buttons to accidentally press, and not sharp or cold, which may look beautiful, but subconciously you want to avoid touching it.

    Although Apple doesn't get 100% right all the time (the best designs are also EGOLESS as well as minimal, and do not draw attention to themselves) they are trying hard where most manufacturers are content to use ugly swooping plastic or cold sharp metal.

    1. Re:congrats by SmittyTheBold · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, I know what you mean.

      I used images.google to find a picture of this "cannon g5" and boy, you weren't kidding! That's the least-camera-like thing I've ever seen!

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  7. Nobody told me. by Ignominious+Poltroon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nobody told me this design award was up for grabs. If they had, I would have sent in photos of my cool case mod, which is entirely made of potato chips and twine. That would have easily clinched it.

  8. Apple doesn't understand their own designs... by wadetemp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The radial menu of the iPod is really efficient, but evidentally Apple doesn't know/care. The latest revision of the iPod does away with the buttons laid out around the edge of the wheel, replacing them with 4 similarly-labeled buttons above the wheel. (And they're "touch" buttons, rather than mechanical ones, allowing for easier accidental pushing than the mechanical ones, besides the fact they no longer guard the touch wheel... all in all, meaning you had better have the thing locked when it's in your pocket.)

    It seems like they're willing to throw away good design to get upgrades.

  9. Rigged Votes by maggard · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The other side of the story is that a number of Mac sites have been publicizing the online vote side of this and exhorting the faithful to cast a ballot. While I'm personally a fan of Mr. Ives work the whole tactic of stuffing the ballot box just annoys me.

    Of course this is all just as bad is the newspapers, TV stations, and websites who run these sort of garbage polls and tout them as having any sort of validity. In reality they're just calculated come-on's for for the website being used and anyone with half a clue knows to discount this sort of trivially rigged "slacktivism". Nonetheless I keep getting emails asking me to vote in blahblahblah.com's poll to show my support for #cause.

    My advice is not to play sucker for these folks & their fake poles, when you come across them ask the sponsors exactly how valid they consider their results to be. Then ask if this is really the "news" they pretend or are they just being slimers, do they feel this discredits their entire operation?

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    1. Re:Rigged Votes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      The winner was chosen by four jurors "and the public", so it's not as if the potentially rigged polls had the final say.

      I imagine that "the public's" votes could have been over-ruled by the four person jury, which was composed of accomplished designers in their own right.

  10. The "Dyson" computer by donnz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I went to a talk given by British invetor James Dyson (check out their Home Page) a few weeks back. He invented the "bagless vacuum cleaner" and one of his engineers' "inovations" was to have a clear case round the rubbish it sucked up. They thought it was cool. One of the most interested people in the design was Steve Jobs...The rest is history.

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  11. Re:PDA by KludgeGrrl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well isn't Apply trying to make the iPod into a watered down PDA, with its "More ways to have fun."

    According to Apple: "The iPod now lets you do a whole lot more in addition to maintaining your contacts, calendar and to-do lists. iPod now includes Solitaire, Brick and Parachute... iPod also includes a notes reader that lets you download text-based information and read it on the screen... The iPod features a sleep timer, so you can fall asleep to your music."

    And we all know that the iPod cn act as a portable hard drive, right?

  12. iPod meets car door by malia8888 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Jonathan Ive should get special kudos for designing the iPod in a way that can take abuse. It is not only good-looking but it can take a good hit.

    I slipped my iPod in my cargo pants "leg" pocket one day as I was getting out of the car. I had totally forgotten that it was there. The car door was partly shut and locked; so, I have it a good body slam with my thigh. My iPod took it head on and it was not broken, not dented, not nuttin.

    Buying quality never paid off so well. A cheap mp3 box from Radio Snack would have been flat as a pancake.

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  13. Uhg... by Cyno01 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Remeber folks, this is the man who is responsible for the aisles and aisles of "blueberry" and "lime" and other fruit colored office suplies in the past few years.

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    1. Re:Uhg... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Remeber folks, this is the man who is responsible for the aisles and aisles of "blueberry" and "lime" and other fruit colored office suplies in the past few years."

      Uh, no. That would be the copycats. The mongolian hordes of uninnovative, noncreative garbage who make products for the unimaginative idiot masses.

  14. Gotta say it by Faust7 · · Score: 4, Funny

    The "Dyson" computer

    Skynet? :)

  15. Apple does understand, so they revise. by zerocircle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm still saving up for an iPod, but I've been reading up, asking around, and visiting my local Apple Store.

    The radial menu of the iPod is really efficient, but evidentally Apple doesn't know/care. The latest revision of the iPod does away with the buttons laid out around the edge of the wheel, replacing them with 4 similarly-labeled buttons above the wheel.

    The original, circular arrangement of the iPod buttons makes for one of the most gorgeous, pure-Ive creations ever, but the outermost circle of buttons (top: menu; left: skip back; right: skip forward; bottom: play/pause) are just that, the outermost, which makes them inefficient for one-handed operation -- say, in your jacket pocket. You've got to slide your thumb (or other finger, if you like RSI) all the way across the middle of the circle to reach the other side, which (1) is too much of a stretch and (2) risks messing with the scroll wheel.

    The linear arrangement of those four buttons on the new-design iPod, while not nearly as visually elegant, makes for a much more ergonomic interface. The wheel-touchpad and its center button get their own dedicated space, and the transport controls get theirs. As a user of several past Sony VCRs, I can tell you that having your transport controls separate is far more sensible than having them visually melded with, and thus placed too damned close to, a rotary control.

    And they're "touch" buttons, rather than mechanical ones, allowing for easier accidental pushing than the mechanical ones, besides the fact they no longer guard the touch wheel... all in all, meaning you had better have the thing locked when it's in your pocket.

    Actually, the "touch" buttons are harder to accidentally push than the mechanical ones. I've been told that you have to set the hold button on an original iPod just to put it in your pocket; otherwise, something gets pressed, or the scroll wheel (on the early, mechanical-wheel models) gets spun, none of which is good for uninterrupted listening. The new "touch" buttons don't trigger on contact with clothing or even an accidental brush with a finger. The touch wheel doesn't need to be guarded, and you don't have to lock it for your pocket.

    It seems like they're willing to throw away good design to get upgrades.

    The original design has a beautiful geometric simplicity, but don't mistake geometric simplicity for higher usability.

    Don't get me wrong: I love the look of the original iPod, and someday I'll pick up a dead one on eBay just to hold and ogle. The thick transparent faceplate, with its sharp edges, is too gorgeous for photographs to convey. But, as with the buttons, it's not a better design.

  16. Re:Why the Logitech Keyboard? by petsounds · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Its possibly one of the best keyboards I've ever used, including an old "clicky" IBM one I had in one of my old jobs.

    I'm incredibly surprised to hear comments like this. All of Apple's current keyboards are ergonomic hazards, unless you perhaps have really small hands or have replaced your hands with cybernetic limbs. There is no wrist support, the keys do not bounce back well, and the keys are too close together. In the case of their keyboards, Apple has chosen form over function.

    Only two Apple keyboards have ever been good enough for day-to-day usage. One was the Apple Extended Keyboard (the original, not the II), which had good tactile response, though its ergonomic features were slim-to-none. The other was the Apple Ergonomic Keyboard -- you know, the one they released in 1992 which could split into two sections and had a separate numpad. It was more ergonomic than anything MS puts out, its keys were reminescent of the early IBM clickity-clackity keyboards, and the keys had ample space between themselves. It's one of the best keyboards I've ever used, though it was a bit on the large side.

    Sadly, Apple stopped making ergonomic keyboards, even though it helped to popularize their usage with the mainstream. I guess Steve has a secretary to dictate all his typing; I'm not sure why else he would be so ambivalent about the risks of CTS (I got minor nerve damage from use of the Mac Plus keyboard while in college).