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FTC Moves up "Do Not Call" List Registration

tbase writes "AdAge.com has an article about the new FTC "Do-Not-Call" List which will be opening for registrations earlier than previously announced. The FTC Press Release says online registration will be available "on or around July 1." and that "Companies will face an $11,000 fine for each telemarketing call that violates the FTC's new consumer-protection provisions.""

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  1. 11,000 dollar fine? by huckda · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Would be nice if it went directly to the individual(s) they phoned instead of into some politician's pocket.

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    1. Re:11,000 dollar fine? by gwernol · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Would be nice if it went directly to the individual(s) they phoned instead of into some politician's pocket.

      But that would, sadly, create an enormous incentive for people to make false and misleading accusations against telemarketers in order to get the fine money - which is a significant amount. The last thing you want the legal system doing is encouraging illegal activity...

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  2. My Problem with This by moehoward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Telemarketers do not follow current law. Very rarely do I get them to tell me their name or company name, let alone a manager name or address. 80% of them hang up when I ask to be placed on their DNC list.

    If they don't follow the law now, why will they follow it in the future.

    And in terms of the phone companies, they see the law and fines as just another expense in a risk/reward scenario. Slamming has been illegal for many year, but they still do it because the fines do not match the profit they get from it.

    This sounds like a great opportunity, but put me down as a skeptic. If the courts don't swat it down, then it will be simply ignored. The governments (local/state/federal) won't/can't enforce existing law.

    I get up to 10 calls a day. I'm sick of it. My phone and my e-mail has been confiscated by marketers of crap that less then .05% of the population wants or needs.

    Also, beware of the following: After this law takes effect, people will be out to get you to put your phone number on all sorts of things (product registration, checks, etc.) because the fine print will say that by giving your phone number, you waive your DNC status with them and their partners. Guard your phone number and e-mail address like you (should) guard your SSN.

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  3. Re:Why $11,000? by cmburns69 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In business and politics, money talks. When you fine a corporation, you have to get them to notice. If the fine were small, the law would be ignored.

    I believe a large part of this money is supposed to go back into keeping the DNC database running.

    And yes, I work for a business in the industry (well, teleresearch, but still annoying)

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  4. Maybe not... by PseudoThink · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think they'd be opening a nasty can of worms if the general public had a financial motive to get telemarketers to call them. Scenario: you and a friend get jobs as telemarketers, then purposely call each others houses 50 times a day just to rack up profits from the fines.

    Considering we want this system to actually work (creates potential for a similar anti-spam system in the future), it's probably best to keep the system well-designed.

  5. It's better that is goes to the government. by MongooseCN · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That way the government is more likely to enforce the law. If it was up to an individual to enforce it, they would have to spend most of the 11,000$ as attorny fees bringing the telemarketer to court. Not to mention the waste of time and effort. The government on the other hand will go in an all out frenzy after these people, especially after Bush's tax cut, and the government has a lot more power behind it than the average Joe.

  6. Re:Nice! by nherc · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Well, this is a sort of caller ID that spits the telemarketers a canned message if there number is on the phone companies list.

    I wouldn't feel safe not answering all of the "Out of Area" and "Unknown" calls... who knows maybe it's your wife from a pay phone after her car broke down. Shaite happens.

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  7. Re:Nice! by feldsteins · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The main problem with caller ID is that it often works like this:

    1. Phone company charges you for a great new service allowing you to see who's calling, thus eliminating the need to speak with telemarketers.

    2. Phone company charges telemarketers for the ability to mask their number from the caller ID units.

    3. Phone company charges you for a new ANTI-anti-missle....

    and so on.

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  8. Re:Do-Not-Mail by maxpublic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Except that:

    - it's my phone and I'm paying for the service. With that in mind it's perfectly reasonable to assume that I get to decide who gets to call. If I tell someone to fuck off, then they better damn well fuck off.

    - it's my email and my internet access. I get to decide to can send me mail using the services *I* pay for. In a capitalist society this is a perfectly reasonable expectation. Only a communist motherfucker would insist that I give everyone equal time on *my* dime.

    - it's my mailbox and it's my postal service. The postal service does not belong to spammers, nor do I have any recognizable alternative to said post office. One would think, given no alternatives other than the government agency that I supposedly control as a citizen of the United States, I could dictate an end to spam. Funny, I can't.
    And, by the way, you are *required* to have a receptacle on your property for mail delivery. This is a *law*. Funny thing, that.

    - most of all, it's *my* time. Neither you nor anyone else has any business wasting it unless you're willing to pay whatever fee I set. This too is good capitalism; in fact, excellent capitalism.

    Unfortunately for all of us, capitalism has very little to do with 21st century America. It had little to do with America prior to the 21st century, but even less so now. If we lived in a truly capitalist society I'd actually have the rights I listed above, as a logical extension of the free market. If anything, I'd have even more rights, provided by the tooth-and-nail competition of competing services all tripping over themselves to steal away customers, with the elimination of harrassment by low-life scumbags as a selling point for those services.

    Max

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