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Gentoo Offers PPC LiveCDs
drunkentiger writes "Ripped right off their homepage: In a recent Slashdot article, someone asked if it were possible to create a fully-featured bootable Linux LiveCD for the Macintosh.
We thought this was a great idea. So today, we are releasing two full-featured LiveCDs for the PowerPC: one with KDE 3, and another with GNOME 2. Take a look at the KDE LiveCD running MacOS X in a window via Mac on Linux. LiveCDs can be downloaded here or from these mirrors."
I'm assuming I can boot this on my older PCI Mac (PowerWave 604/120, old mac clone). Does anyone know differently?
I have heard the Apple vs PC discussion a lot; however, recently a *nix friend of mine was asking me if the apple or PC hardware was better for a new *nix installation.
I don't know... so now I ask you...
Which hardware would you rather buy for a new home linux system?
Thanks in advance...
Davak
sure would make me happy.
SuSE had a decent PPC distribution too. This seems like such a no-brainer... probably the only way you could expect widespread adoption from the Mac crowd.
Is this truly the only Earth I can live on?
LiveCDs are cool. I'm use Knoppix all the time (Linux bliss in the computer lab, finally).
But what is the logic behind using a source-based distribution for a LiveCD?
I don't have anything against Gentoo, but fail to see *why* Gentoo...
Is PPC support better with Gentoo? Or are the Gentoo guys just the first ones to do this for PPCs?
- Ost
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I'm a documentation editor for Gentoo, and I know first-hand that many, if not all, of the developers scour the Web (well, their favorite sites, like Slashdot, anyhow) and report back any news about Gentoo in the press. They gladly take the bad news with the good--using the bad, as in this case (the former lack of a PPC LiveCD) to retool things, add new features, and generally make people happier.
A lot of people scoff at the Gentoo fanatacism--including the developers--but at least, in this case, I think a lot of that is warranted. Perhaps not all of it, mind you, but definitely a lot. I think we're a good bunch of guys and gals.
When are we gonna see a Gentoo icon for Slashdot, like the other Linux distros have?
This is a great idea. I was thinking of porting knoppix to the ppc for some time while my life dispatched the regular inerrupt requestors... and in the meantime somebody delivered pretty much exactly what I wanted. =)
those mirrors are getting slaughtered... would somebody (gentoo? gatech?) put up a bittorrent tracker for those iso's?
I tried playing around with yellow dog, but sometimes it would mess with my boot sequence, and I couldnt boot into OSX native mode.
This would be great, you dont have to touch the mac's boot sectors.
into trying Linux, of course! She uses a blue/white Mac G3 400 with 256 megs of RAM and OS X 10.1. Doing anything on that computer feels incredibly slow, even after switching to the peppy (Mozilla based) Camino browser.
Has anyone tried this Gentoo liveCD on a similar Mac yet?
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Is it possible to store a live CD (Knoppix/Gnoppix/Gentoo) on a CD-RW instead of a CD-R, and modify the distribution so that the CD-RW is mounted in R/W mode, allowing you to have some files that are persistent between sessions?
Uhh... you mean besides these? Currently getting 0.5M/sec using the 3.1a client
Jerm
Oh, you're not a real doctor, are you?
I have been using gentoo 1.4rcX on my iBook for nearly a year now as well. It has been far and away my best experience in using Linux on the desktop, and I am slowly but surely turning into one of those freaky Gentoo zealots... Every machine that I run linux on (at home or work) are *slowly* getting Gentoo installed on them, but distcc is helping... ;)
Really, I think that's true for most people on Slashdot in general. I myself always WANTED a 'cleaner' source-based distro without the hangups of Debian, and Gentoo provides it. It's very possible to achieve a stable and fast system with Gentoo, you just have to be moderate with your make.conf settings.
I think the BEST thing about gentoo is the installation process. I finally learned how daemons get started, how to set up networking and NFS. All these things were either hidden from me behind GUI utilities or prevented from working properly by services that I didn't know about on more 'turnkey' distros.
Mandrake is cool because a newbie can get it to work. Gentoo is cool because a newbie can become a knowledgeable user after a few installs.
Thanks to Gentoo I finally understand HOW all this *NIX stuff works under the hood and I am MUCH more competent on any *NIX box. I no longer cower in fear of the bash prompt, instead I command my boxen like a pro.
Also, I never liked the 'full-featured' desktops for linux that ship with RedHat or Mandrake. GNOME and KDE always felt slow and unfocused to me. With Gentoo it was amazingly simple to build a system with WindowMaker and the apps I needed without having the overhead of KDE/GNOME running behind it. When I boot up gentoo my RAM usage is 14MB, my 'barebones' mandrake box uses 72MB to get to "login:"
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I'm amazed that Gentoo Games was not mentioned they released Wolfenstien and have a bittorent to download it!
Basically your someone who actually wants to learn everything about how your particular distro works. This isn't applying to more and more linux users and certainly doesn't apply to the vast majority of Windows users.
Distros like Gentoo are a throwback and really are more useful as learning tools as opposed to useful OS's for normal people.
I of course have nothing against something like Gentoo let alone Slackware or Debian, but truthfully their way of doing things isn't the future of modern computing.
The future of computing is thankfully not having to worry about compiling kernels and screwing with drivers. The future is a OS that ANYONE can sit down at and be productive right away. Maybe tweakers will find that boring, but after security ease of use will continue to be the most important aspect to any OS.
Knowing how to build an engine and car from raw materials is a nice novelty for engineers, actually hoping in and driving it without having to have a PHD is the important part.
Like I said I have nothing against Gentoo, but spending all your time learning how an OS works is a fairly useless endevor for anyone but admins. Sure you need to know some things, but not to the extent which Gentoo requires. When OS's are mature enough enough to be secure by default, moron proof, and also efficient by default, there simply won't be any need for something like Gentoo.
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Anyone remember LinuxPPC Live?
;-> ) created a version of LinuxPPC Release 4 that would boot live from the CD. We gave away a few thousand at Macworld Expo, possibly a few at the first or second ALS. I don't remember if it made Slashdot, but we had enough stuff that did. Like the security contest Microsoft was putting on. At which we beat them.
In 1998, our esteemed kernel hacker jcarr (
(Our old Pmac 9500 stayed up despite intensive attacks, and finally fell to one clever person who exploited a vulnerability in the version of proftpd running on the box. Which became his.)
Bravo to Gentoo, but let us not forget, someone's done it before.
-- haaz.