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ESR Recasts Jargon File in Own Image

don.g writes "As reported by NTK, ESR appears to have embarked apon the process of recasting the Jargon File in his own image, adding terms like "Aunt Tillie" and "GhandiCon" that he dreamt up and seemingly no-one else uses, and various terms from (of all places) the warblogging community, where he is active. He's also updated the "Hacker Politics" page to be more closely aligned with his own views."

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  1. And this is a surprise.. why? by sudog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The guy's an egomaniac, both online and off; if he's the maintainer of a project, he's god of the project. Whoever handed that one off to him is to blame, not ESR himself, because it's not like he's gone through some horrible, recent metamorphosis. :)

    1. Re:And this is a surprise.. why? by SN74S181 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, if something stinks like shit you don't have to shit your own mound beside it before you're allowed to say that it stinks like shit.

  2. Re:If anyone deserves some slack in this regard... by nomadic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does anyone else find it thoughtless and ungrateful to criticize one of the communities greatest single person assets because the tremendous efforts he puts forth FOR FREE are colored by his personal experiences?

    No. I'm sick of people insisting that someone wasn't paid for their time then somehow they should be immune from criticism from whatever they do with that time. It's idiotic.

    He has decided to appoint himself voice of the hacker movement. When he starts trying to distort the truth to feed his own ego and his simple-minded politics, then why the hell shouldn't he be criticized?

  3. I have one word for you: by mcc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Fork.

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    Like any public domain or copyleft project, it doesn't really matter what kind of job the maintainer does with the Jargon File, since alternate versions may be created effortlessly. ESR should be free to do whatever he likes with the thing, even if it's a bit silly. And since ESR isn't bothering anymore to host the definitive version himself, and hasn't for like a year or something, and 90% of the jargon file mirrors found on google are old versions anyway, it isn't like a forking would even be noticed.

    I read the article after writing this comment and noticed NTK kind of makes this point themselves, but I think it's worth reiterating. Esp. since no one reads the article around here.

  4. Ok, ideas for an alternative? by kien · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I see much wailing and gnashing of teeth against ESR because it is perceived that:

    • He is changing the jargon file

    • and
    • He is skewing it to match his own beliefs/interets.


    You can keep the personal attacks...I don't buy them because they seem to spring from either long-held grudges or unsubstantiated claims against Eric's character.

    What bothers me is the apparent willingness of this community to attack a person that has done a lot to bring us all here in the first place. If you don't like ESR's version of the jargon file, feel free to fork your own, or email ESR with your specific complaints and work it out.

    I'm not disappointed that Taco posted this story because it's not a bad idea to question those we consider leaders in this loose society that is the FOSS community...but I'm surprised and a bit disappointed at how quickly we turn into a bunch of sharks willing to devour each other. The tinfoil-hat-wearing conspiracy theory part of my brain thinks that any proprietary-software-funded trolls have certainly earned their money in this thread.

    --K.
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    Sig: Bad people happen. Try to avoid being one of them.
  5. Who's seen the "Anti-Idiotarian Manifesto"? by sharv · · Score: 5, Insightful
    If you're interesting in seeing a bizarre rant by any measure, check out ESR's Anti-Idiotarian Manifesto. There's enough pretentious pseudo-intellectual terminology to make Noam Chomsky jealous: "reflexive anti-Americanism", "Islamo-fascist", "...be vigilant against the expedient lie", etc.

    What's an Idiotarian? To my way of interpreting this writing, it's basically anyone ESR or his adherents disgrees with. At first, an idiotarian is anyone who supports terrorists and tyrants, a/k/a the American Left. However, the screed goes on to assail the American Right, who are most often in support of eliminating terrorists and tyrants. So, yeah, anyone who doesn't subscribe to ESR's version of militant libertarianism is an idiotarian.

    A lot of people here were really beating up on ESR; I decided to my own checking and decided that the guy is veering dangerously close to Unabomber material. Guns, anarchy, manifestos against both political sides, whatever. Time to get a cabin in the woods and issue forth open-source decrees. Just don't wrap 'em around pipe bombs and everything will be okay.